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Title: US Building Case Tying Separatists to Plane Crash
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US ... 0_07192014&promo_code=hmlqzlid
Published: Jul 18, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-07-19 12:19:50 by BTP Holdings
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US Building Case Tying Separatists to Plane Crash Friday, 18 Jul 2014 09:17 PM The United States is building a case linking pro-Russian separatists to the shocking downing of a passenger jet in Ukraine. A somber President Barack Obama declared the deaths of those on board, including at least one American, an "outrage of unspeakable proportions." Obama said the U.S. believes the Malaysia Airlines plane was felled by a surface-to-air missile launched from an area near the Ukraine-Russia border that is controlled by Kremlin-backed separatists. Even as he cautioned that the exact circumstances were still being determined, the president turned his sights on Russia, saying the insurgents would not be capable of carrying out such an attack without Moscow's support. "We know that they are heavily armed and they are trained, and we know that that's not an accident," Obama said. "That is happening because of Russian support." The president spoke shortly after Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, outlined preliminary evidence against Russia and the separatists during an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council. Power said separatists were spotted Thursday with an SA-11 anti-aircraft missile at a location close to the site where the plane came down and that they had boasted on social media sites about shooting down a plane, then later deleted those posts. Power joined Obama in calling for an immediate international investigation, and she warned that the separatists and those supporting them would have "good reason to cover up evidence of their crime." The U.S. has called for evidence from the crash site to remain in Ukraine until investigators determine who is responsible. The American killed in the incident was identified as Quinn Lucas Schansman. Officials said they were still working to confirm whether any other U.S. citizens were on board the plane. For Obama, the downed plane adds new complexity to U.S. efforts to quell the months-long conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Increasingly stringent economic sanctions imposed by the U.S. and Europe, including a new round of penalties announced a day before the plane was shot down, have done little to change Russian President Vladimir Putin's approach. Obama warned Russia anew on Friday that the U.S. has the capacity to increase the economic pain, but he outlined no specific potential actions. He did say he saw no U.S. military role in the conflict that has stemmed in part from Russia's annexation of the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine. All 298 people aboard the Malaysian plane were killed in Thursday's incident. The victims included vacationers, students and a large contingent of scientists. The passengers came from a dozen countries, spreading the impact of the Ukraine crisis around the globe. "This certainly will be a wake-up call for Europe and the world that there are consequences to an escalating conflict in eastern Ukraine — that it is not going to be localized, it is not going to be contained," Obama said. The president has spoken with several world leaders since the crash, including Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. On Friday, he called British Prime Minister David Cameron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel to discuss possible responses to the crisis. He also spoke with Prime Minister Tony Abbott of Australia, whose country lost 27 citizens in the crash. Obama learned of the plane crash during a phone call Thursday with Putin. On Friday, the president stopped short of blaming Putin for the downing of the plane, but he said the Russian leader could bring the broader conflict to an end. "He has the most control over that situation, and so far at least he has not exercised it," the president said. A U.S. official said all available evidence, including satellite imagery, pointed to the plane being shot down with an SA-11 anti-aircraft missile fired by pro-Russian separatist forces. The official said the U.S. detected three separate events associated with the shootdown: the launching of the missile from the Ukraine side of the border, the missile's impact with the plane and the plane slamming into the ground. That official was not authorized to discuss U.S. intelligence matters publicly by name and commented only on condition of anonymity. Power, during her remarks at the United Nations, said Ukrainian forces as well as the separatists have SA-11 systems in their inventory. However, she said the U.S. was not aware of those systems being in the area of the shooting, and she noted that Ukrainian air defenses have not fired any missiles during the dispute with Russia. The State Department said the FBI and National Transportation Security Board were each sending at least one agent to Ukraine, and perhaps more later, to assist with the crash investigation. A command center has been set up at the State Department, where officials from agencies participating in the delegation gathered Friday morning for a briefing from the CIA on the political and military situation. Read Latest Breaking News from http://Newsmax.com www.newsmax.com/Newsfront...8/id/583646#ixzz37vpd8V3T Poster Comment: This story is just so much BS. ;)
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#1. To: BTP Holdings, cynicom (#0)
he's running interference on the board today for the ziokranians...an israeli protectorate. "He has the most control over that situation, and so far at least he has not exercised it," the president said. Just wow.
Buckwheat hasn't a clue...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
i think he does. he's a hired actor playing his role in this kabuki theatre.
I stopped right there. Is Obama going to deliver another one of his infamous "red lines!"??? not according to cyni
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#2. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Obama learned of the plane crash during a phone call Thursday with Putin. On Friday, the president stopped short of blaming Putin for the downing of the plane, but he said the Russian leader could bring the broader conflict to an end.
#3. To: Fred Mertz, 4 (#2)
#4. To: Lod (#3)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#5. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
The United States is building a case
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: Rotara (#4)
Absolutely. He's there to take the heat and that's it, and he's been well compensated to do so.
#7. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
And what about the hundreds of civilian deaths due to ethnic cleansing by the Kiev government, which your State Department placed into power, eh Obama? Do you shed tears for them as well? What about the Libyan civilians killed and/or displaced by your bombing to Kingdom Come of their country for no good reason? What about the Syrian civilians tortured, killed, raped, beheaded, etc., by your Al Qaeda pals? Do you feel for them as well? What about the Palestinian children recently massacred by your buddies the Israelis, eh? From the history of false flags perpetrated by the US over the decades, this smells more like a US action than anything else. "We know that they are heavily armed and they are trained, and we know that that's not an accident," Obama said. "That is happening because of Russian support."
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#8. To: FormerLurker, all (#7)
THIS !!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#9. To: Rotara, Cynicom, randge (#1)
Isn't that an oversimplification? he's running interference on the board today for the ziokranians...an israeli protectorate.
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
No fooling. You think maybe someone is not coming clean? ;) Just wow.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
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