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Title: Dick Cheney has put it on the table as bluntly and thuggishly as a mobster setting down a crowbar.
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URL Source: http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/12/ana05056.html
Published: Dec 21, 2005
Author: buzzflash
Post Date: 2005-12-21 22:02:24 by tom007
Keywords: thuggishly, crowbar., bluntly
Views: 200
Comments: 26
Dick Cheney has put it on the table as bluntly and thuggishly as a mobster setting down a crowbar. A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS It may be the Holiday Season, but for the United States of America we're back to Lexington and Concord. Dick Cheney has put it on the table as bluntly and thuggishly as a mobster setting down a crowbar. Cheney has said that he, Bush and Rumsfeld are out to seize as much power as they can in the name of a "robust" executive branch. It ain't no executive branch Cheney is after; it's a dictatorship. As we've said before, call it the Franco regime, the Stalin regime, the Pinochet Regime, the Brezhnev regime, the Bush regime -- they are all the same in terms of dictatorial powers that deny democracy. Is the American Constitution going to be put through the shredder until there is nothing left but strips of paper to throw out in the trash? Or are some patriotic heroes going to rescue America? Right now the "Centrist Democrats" are still sitting back acting as if there's no immediate crisis. Their consultants warn them not to appear too radical! As if the dismembering of democracy by Cheney and Bush is not radical! As if the brazen seizure of illegal dictatorial powers is not radical! As if the conduct of an unnecessary war costing thousands of lives, fomenting a new generation of terrorists, and bankrupting America is not radical! The Bush dictatorship -- and it has clearly and publicly crossed the threshold now -- is not going to tiptoe away. Dictatorships don't. They hang on until they are displaced from positions of power. If the Democrats don't start yelling fire soon, we'll just be left with the burning hulk of what once was a great democracy. We are on the verge of irreversibly becoming just another dictatorship "ism." The terrorists have an ally in Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. Cheney and Bush have accomplished what Osama never dreamed of achieving: bringing down the American democracy and replacing it with a dictatorship. And what's more the Busheviks are totally inept at making the right strategic moves in actually confronting the threat of terrorism. They are like all dictators, arrogant, elitist losers who seize permanent power because they could not hold onto it based on accomplishment -- because they only have a record of ruin to run on. Meanwhile the John Kerrys of the world act as if they have all the time in the world to "win the next election." As if there were a chance of a fair one in a de facto dictatorship. The satirist Jonathan Swift ("Gulliver's Travels") would tell us this. For the most part, we are left with a party composed of Democratic fools living in a political world of GOP knaves. God help us all!
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
Today's MSNBC poll: Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 26416 responses Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial. 88% No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors." 3% No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching. 8% I don't know. 1% Not a scientifically valid survey. Click to learn more.
WOW. No wonder he seems so FU recently.
Yes, I truly believe that he has PO'd both the MSM and Congress. He is beyond stupid. He's making more enemies than he realizes or than he can handle. Compare Nixon. Compare JFK.
Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 36691 responses Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial. 88% No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors." 3% No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching. 7% I don't know. 1%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors." 3% Ya think this poll was 'freeped' by FR? :P
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I think that George has "freeped" hisself!
How not to win friends and influence people? :P
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For all the idiots who voted Republican in the last 2 elections, Aren't you glad the Adults are in charge now??? When I think about the chronic failings of the Baby Boom generation, it makes me glad that eventually they'll all die off leaving the planet in capable hands of people who were forced to grow up a lot sooner, who had to be REALLY responsible, and who want to have an America that THEY can be proud of. Unfortunately the communist Baby Boomers who have hated this country since birth have gone out of their way to turn it into the Soviet Union. The answer to the problems of this country, is to exile every baby boomer to a remote island, and let Lord Of The Flies happen. You want positive change for America? Remove Baby Boomers from power.
#2. To: randge (#1)
#3. To: tom007 (#2)
#4. To: randge (#3)
#5. To: randge (#1)
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial. 88%
#6. To: Zipporah (#5)
#7. To: randge (#6)
I think that George has "freeped" hisself!
#8. To: tom007 (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#9. To: Zipporah (#7)
Actually, I think that cheney will resign for "health" reasons shortly. Especially if the investigation into the wiretaps starts to look bad for bush and company. That way bush can appoint a cronie to the VP...one that will pardon him and cheney if the shit hits the fan...and especially if the Ds take the house and the Senate...they will Have to have an un-impeachable VP. JMO, which is often worthless.
#10. To: tom007 (#0)
Buzzflash is a good site, but it tends to lean that the Dems should save us, when both parties are fully to blame. Mark
#11. To: tom007 (#0)
Yes, God help us all.
The Bush dictatorship -- and it has clearly and publicly crossed the threshold now -- is not going to tiptoe away. Dictatorships don't. They hang on until they are displaced from positions of power.
All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. ~George Orwell
#12. To: Soda Pop (#9)
That way bush can appoint a cronie to the VP...one that will pardon him and cheney if the shit hits the fan...and especially if the Ds take the house and the Senate...they will Have to have an un-impeachable VP. JMO, which is often worthless. aristeides pointed out something to note.. that the letter re the wire taps from Rockefeller was to Cheney.. if he would resign, I dont think Bush would have any problem appointing a cronie.. it's all he has done..
Especially if the investigation into the wiretaps starts to look bad for bush and company.
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#13. To: Zipporah (#12)
Condi. She'd pardon them both, just as Ford did for Dickie. Then she'd have the power of the Presidency to aid her in '08. That's why I don't think you'll see the Ds remove bush from office. Just beat the livin' hell outta him and leave him wounded. And then in '08 when we have a Dem president we will all have someone new to hate and be pissed off at...Life seems to run in cycles, huh?
I dont think Bush would have any problem appointing a cronie.. it's all he has done..
#14. To: Soda Pop (#13)
She'd pardon them both, just as Ford did for Dickie. Then she'd have the power of the Presidency to aid her in '08. That's why I don't think you'll see the Ds remove bush from office. Just beat the livin' hell outta him and leave him wounded. And then in '08 when we have a Dem president we will all have someone new to hate and be pissed off at...Life seems to run in cycles, huh? Excellent point.. wouldnt surprise me in the least if Bush made her VP.. And the dems are better off if Bush stays in office.. the more ridiculous the Rs look the better.. and they cant get the votes anyway unless of course Bush does something that takes his numbers to the teens or single digits.
Condi.
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#15. To: Zipporah (#14)
remember, dickie was not impeached if congress impeaches george his successor cannot pardon him read article II
#16. To: randge (#15)
Section 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
read article II
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#17. To: randge (#15)
if congress impeaches george his successor cannot pardon him read article II True he resigned.
remember, dickie was not impeached
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#18. To: Zipporah (#17)
if congress impeaches george his successor cannot pardon him read article II True he resigned. I wonder what would happen if as they were voting for impeachment. If about 10 min before vote was final...the president resigned. Would he be able to be pardoned then?
remember, dickie was not impeached
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#19. To: Zipporah, Soda Pop, aristeides (#12)
As Vice-President, Cheney is President of the Senate which may explain why Senator Rockefeller sent his letter to Cheney.
aristeides pointed out something to note.. that the letter re the wire taps from Rockefeller was to Cheney..
#20. To: randge (#15)
I believe this is technically incorrect. Tricky Dick was impeached when the House voted articles of impeachment. Impeachment is being charged. He was not convicted by the Senate because he resigned when told he did not have enough support in the Senate to avoid conviction.
remember, dickie was not impeached
#21. To: Zipporah, Soda Pop (#14)
Excellent point.. wouldnt surprise me in the least if Bush made her VP.. Bush could not just make an automatic appointment. It must be confirmed by both houses of Congress. See Amendment 25, Section 2, "Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress." It is more likely that Congress would pick one of their own and let the president know that that is all he will be able to get through Congress. This is especially true if it appears that the new VP may soon replace the Prez, a la Gerry Ford.
Condi.
#22. To: nolu_chan (#21)
Uh, yeah. I know that. But once he makes an appointment, they (congress) have to present some sort of reason NOT to confirm said appointment. Same as with Nixon appointing Ford...lotsa folks, I for one, did not want an architect of the Warren Report in the VP slot, but he was confirmed. Congress CAN'T "pick one of their own"...the President makes the choice and all congress can do is vote yea or nay. So you kinda confuse me, but that ain't hard either. I was confused for 24 years in the army, and a long time after that. Hell I was even a FReeper once, and that is really confused. Now I don't remember what I was talking about. I am so confused.
Bush could not just make an automatic appointment. It must be confirmed by both houses of Congress.
#23. To: Soda Pop (#22)
The President only has the power to nominate, not to appoint. The nominee must obtain the consent of both houses of Congress or the nomination is dead. The Congress need not give any reason for withholding consent. Heck, Congress rarely ever gives the real reason they do anything. I wonder how they would express their real reason for funding the Bridge to Nowhere. IIRC, Gerry Ford was Speaker of the House when nominated for VP. Of course, the Congress cannot nominate anyone, but they can make it clear that they will only consent to a certain nominee. In a case where the VP and Prez are threatened with removal from office, the Prez has very little political capital. Generally, an impeachment will only happen when the opposing party controls the House. In the Senate, 41 senators can block just about anything. A weak or crippled president almost has to go along to get along. It sort of becomes a case where Congress can wag the dog. I was confused for 20 years in the Navy and was once a Freeper.
#24. To: nolu_chan (#23)
I was a confused "hooligan sailor" (Coasty) before I was a Soldier. And after I was a FReeper, I thought MOJO was OK for a while. Man is THAT confused or what?
I was confused for 20 years in the Navy and was once a Freeper.
#25. To: Kamala (#10)
I have no use for Buzzflash, who is just the World Net Daily of the communist left, but I would agree that BOTH parties are fully to blame. The left is screaming about impeaching Bush in the same manner that the right was screaming about impeaching Clinton. Remember how Clinton was going to ignore the 22nd, and run for office a THIRD time? How he was going to establish a 'dictatorship?' Never happened, and it isn't going to happen THIS time, either. I'm sure whoever wins the White House next time around will be the target of impeachment by the opposition party...bank on it. One thing I am sure about...this country is headed down the crapper...real fast.
Buzzflash is a good site, but it tends to lean that the Dems should save us, when both parties are fully to blame.
#26. To: nolu_chan (#20)
Technically, this is correct. Six of seventeen Republican members and rwenty one Democrats of the House Judiciary Committee voted on Articles of Impeachment. They were never put before the House. The House may well have impeached him in the event, but Nixon resigned before a bill of impeachment was laid before the entire House of Representatives.
remember, dickie was not impeached
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