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Title: Israel Deliberately Targeting Children, Whole Families Too Many Dead Too Fast to Count
Source: Youtube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlA8LpRhng
Published: Jul 31, 2014
Author: Noor Harazeen
Post Date: 2014-07-31 22:02:03 by Lorie Meacham
Keywords: None
Views: 860
Comments: 56

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#1. To: Lorie Meacham (#0)

Lorie, if the world is outraged at what's happening in Gaza, why can't they stop it?

christine  posted on  2014-08-01   0:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By one account, "Wars are to be won, not lost." By another, "it [only] took two [nukes] to get them to surrender." Why is Gaza any different today?

Think about it for a minute. Do we really think the children of Dresden, Hamburg and Hiroshima were different from the Gazan kids? Were they less human? Was there no choice but to incinerate them?

Now think about why we were taught to hate the Germans and the Japanese so much that we had to start wars with them and occupy their lands. They're no different from the Palestinians here. Emulating Jehovah in the old testament, we slaughtered them just as the Israelis are doing here. After all, it was war, right?

Who taught us to be at "forever war?"

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-01   9:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Think about it for a minute. Do we really think the children of Dresden, Nanking, Hamburg the Philippines and Hiroshima the Bataan death marchers were different from the Gazan kids?

Fixed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-03   14:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As if the Germans weren't also apt to commit acts of violence toward their opponents' territory that might have been shocking to the average American Christian? How again, was this our problem?

Back to your rewritten list:

First, Nanking wasn't our doing, so it isn't my country's responsibility. As an isolationist I have no compulsion to enforce one kind of morality on another two groups of people. That is their concern, not mine. My worry regarding Israel and Gaza is that we fund them to the tune of billions per year, so their treatment of another ethnic group is something for which my country shares the blame and gives me no advantages whatsoever. In fact, I find something analogous in the way Israel is treating the Palestinians to the way Jews treat Anglo-Saxons here in the United States: as lesser creatures to be manipulated and restricted so as to avoid their particular unruliness.

Second, the imperial Japanese attack on the Philippines, and the resulting Bataan death march were strategic initiatives directed against American colonial holdings after Americans had begun to do low-intensity, high-impact war with Japan already. If we hadn't interfered with Japan's petroleum and iron ore shipments, we wouldn't have been attacked. We know the attacks hadn't been any big surprise due to intelligence gathering and decoding of radio exchanges.

Finally, American leadership has typically used dangerous situations for its troops to arouse public sentiment in favor of wars. The situation at Bataan was hardly any different. We can readily blame FDR and his military advisers for leaving troops in the Pacific so poorly equipped. Remember, in September 1941 expert pilot Charles Lindbergh complained in a speech that Lend-Lease was depleting our own air strength. We were literally giving the Soviets and the British the weapons and materiel that our own troops could have used to protect themselves. They could have repulsed the Japs if they'd had the strength that had been redirected to the Soviet Union, alone.

FDR and his advisers against the recommendations of patriots like Lindbergh, literally hung the military in the Pacific out to dry, and conducted a strategy of depleting the Japanese of their most necessary items — siding with the mainland Chinese and Soviets against them.

There are always a lot of "sad" things going on in the world. It's not our Constitutional right to pour out our blood and treasure where this or that group develops a case of the bleeding hearts. The fact that we lost what was left of our national identity while fighting the two world wars proves this assertion to me.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-03   15:02:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nanking, Unit 731, Bataan, the Philippines all cast the Japanese military as the barbarians they were. Their failure to surrender, unconditionally, directly let to their well earned deep frying. You can hate on one side of the equation from now until the cows come home, but that won't make your take on the sitch correct. Now, since you aren't here to make friends, at least try and make sense. Thank you and have a special day!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-03   15:16:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nanking, Unit 731, Bataan, the Philippines all cast the Japanese military as the barbarians they were.

At least 100 million (at least) have died in China under the communists. Do you really think they're better off since we intervened? You know the Germans and the Allies had biological warfare and chemical weapons development research, and nuclear research as well.

The Japs didn't start the war with us Americans, Other than the bloody results of a real "hot war" which we started with a low-level, high-intensity war, why was any of this our problem in the first place? You're advocating intervention, just like our intervention in Iraq or Afghanistan, or Vietnam or Korea.

Since when did the squabbles among non-American people matter to us? Why was it our duty to sort out their lives?

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-03   15:53:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Since when did the squabbles among non-American people matter to us? Why was it our duty to sort out their lives?

You cannot be that thick-headed, can you?

Wars are a racket to profit the zio-bankers and the MIC, period.

Read Smedley Butler and John Perkins to learn about the business of war, and it is a business. No one gives a crap about sorting anyone's lives out.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-03   16:05:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

JT does. I in particular only care about repairing the damage these wars have done to our national identity. For the rest of the world, this is well in the past. But it is remembered by people we aid Israel against.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-03   16:10:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

JT does. I in particular only care about repairing the damage these wars have done to our national identity.

What the fuck are you talking about and why the fuck don't you let ME put words in MY mouth? Do me a favor and save your indignation and anger for the roll call of daily insults that greet us each morning rather than spin your wheels over events that happened before we were born, and prior to the free flow of information that the 'net offers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-03   16:19:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You're the one who said they deserved to be deep fried. That implied a moral judgement. Deal with it. Or not.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-03   16:22:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That implied a moral judgement.

And your suggestion to allow WWII to continue on, with a potential of adding up to a million more military and civilian losses, carries no "implied moral judgement"?

Please....

Get a grip, move away from the dust bin of history, and crawl into the mess we face today.

Odin commands it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-03   16:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And your suggestion to allow WWII to continue on, with a potential of adding up to a million more military and civilian losses, carries no "implied moral judgement"?

It was the Allies who insisted on total surrender, with their Jewish advisers calling for the blood of the heathens. The Germans also tried to negotiate a peace settlement on the western front but also failed.

A war that the British and Americans started did not have to be "finished." Do you know that the Swiss have a standing order that the central government is incapable of surrendering? If the military or the civilian government broadcasts a message to lay down arms, it is stated in advance by long-standing and well-known policy that this order would be rogue and traitorous.

We've been through this before. Didn't you grow up in a nice, clean white neighborhood where all was safe and secure? Wasn't WWII a great, recent event that created harmony throughout the world in your young mind, and didn't it seem like every veteran was a hero?

Didn't you notice how quickly things went to hell? We were busy trying very hard not to be "barbaric." Come out of your youthful reveries and face the music: the wars were what destroyed the potential you believed we had as a child. That was the country that used to exist before the Federal Reserve, before the rise to empire. It was doomed by the Civil War, but the world wars put a nail in the coffin of our freedoms.

Try not to think of the wars as Americans fighting for liberty or revenge. We were fighting to prop up communism in Russia and China. Remember that the next time you start to complain that Obama is a Marxist.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-04   7:56:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

We've been through this before. Didn't you grow up in a nice, clean white neighborhood where all was safe and secure?

Yeah, Flatbush, Brooklyn in the late 50s early 60s was pure suburbia.

Look, you know nothing about me or my moral compass so don't pretend that you do. For you to set yourself up as the arbiter of morality is high comedy at best, a psychological break at worst.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-04   8:13:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Look, you know nothing about me or my moral compass so don't pretend that you do.

JT, I apologize for assuming something I didn't know and flipping it into the dialog where it didn't belong. In fact I owe apologies to all three of you. Please PM me if you want the specifics.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-05   16:25:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All is well Deasy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-07   12:48:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Something more from northwestern Europe: this song features pleasant blues with a solar theme.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-07 20:13:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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