Title: Israel Deliberately Targeting Children, Whole Families Too Many Dead Too Fast to Count Source:
Youtube URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlA8LpRhng Published:Jul 31, 2014 Author:Noor Harazeen Post Date:2014-07-31 22:02:03 by Lorie Meacham Keywords:None Views:863 Comments:56
By one account, "Wars are to be won, not lost." By another, "it [only] took two [nukes] to get them to surrender." Why is Gaza any different today?
Think about it for a minute. Do we really think the children of Dresden, Hamburg and Hiroshima were different from the Gazan kids? Were they less human? Was there no choice but to incinerate them?
Now think about why we were taught to hate the Germans and the Japanese so much that we had to start wars with them and occupy their lands. They're no different from the Palestinians here. Emulating Jehovah in the old testament, we slaughtered them just as the Israelis are doing here. After all, it was war, right?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Are you sure you're there's a seat for you in Valhalla?
I don't lose any sleep over that question, which is in the hands of fate.
Let me ask you this: do you think the Valkyries take warriors who massacre innocent children with firebombs and drones to Odin's hall to fight with him at Ragnarok? What good are they to him?
Danzig, which was the German objective under negotiation (and a corridor to it) was a piece of German territory before the end of WWI. It was primarily populated by German-speaking people. If the British didn't want war, they could have agreed to the reasonable demands of post-Versailles Germany.
As it stands, the British who had agreed to protect Poland, did not declare war on the Russians who invaded from the east. Evidently the British did not want war with the Soviets, but did with the Germans.
The British would never have made such a bargain if they couldn't count on the US to side with them, which secretly we did under unconstitutional Lend-Lease shipments at a time when our own military and economy was badly hurting.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Think about it for a minute. Do we really think the children of Dresden, Nanking, Hamburg the Philippines and Hiroshima the Bataan death marchers were different from the Gazan kids?
As if the Germans weren't also apt to commit acts of violence toward their opponents' territory that might have been shocking to the average American Christian? How again, was this our problem?
Back to your rewritten list:
First, Nanking wasn't our doing, so it isn't my country's responsibility. As an isolationist I have no compulsion to enforce one kind of morality on another two groups of people. That is their concern, not mine. My worry regarding Israel and Gaza is that we fund them to the tune of billions per year, so their treatment of another ethnic group is something for which my country shares the blame and gives me no advantages whatsoever. In fact, I find something analogous in the way Israel is treating the Palestinians to the way Jews treat Anglo-Saxons here in the United States: as lesser creatures to be manipulated and restricted so as to avoid their particular unruliness.
Second, the imperial Japanese attack on the Philippines, and the resulting Bataan death march were strategic initiatives directed against American colonial holdings after Americans had begun to do low-intensity, high-impact war with Japan already. If we hadn't interfered with Japan's petroleum and iron ore shipments, we wouldn't have been attacked. We know the attacks hadn't been any big surprise due to intelligence gathering and decoding of radio exchanges.
Finally, American leadership has typically used dangerous situations for its troops to arouse public sentiment in favor of wars. The situation at Bataan was hardly any different. We can readily blame FDR and his military advisers for leaving troops in the Pacific so poorly equipped. Remember, in September 1941 expert pilot Charles Lindbergh complained in a speech that Lend-Lease was depleting our own air strength. We were literally giving the Soviets and the British the weapons and materiel that our own troops could have used to protect themselves. They could have repulsed the Japs if they'd had the strength that had been redirected to the Soviet Union, alone.
FDR and his advisers against the recommendations of patriots like Lindbergh, literally hung the military in the Pacific out to dry, and conducted a strategy of depleting the Japanese of their most necessary items — siding with the mainland Chinese and Soviets against them.
There are always a lot of "sad" things going on in the world. It's not our Constitutional right to pour out our blood and treasure where this or that group develops a case of the bleeding hearts. The fact that we lost what was left of our national identity while fighting the two world wars proves this assertion to me.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Nanking, Unit 731, Bataan, the Philippines all cast the Japanese military as the barbarians they were. Their failure to surrender, unconditionally, directly let to their well earned deep frying. You can hate on one side of the equation from now until the cows come home, but that won't make your take on the sitch correct. Now, since you aren't here to make friends, at least try and make sense. Thank you and have a special day!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
The correct, politically and morally defensible position to take is that of non- interventionism.
Amen, and stop there.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The telling of our past will dictate our future. Since the end of WWII, that retelling has been a milestone around our necks. If we consider ourselves the remnant of liberty, we must retell our past as it was, not how we wish it were.
Nanking, Unit 731, Bataan, the Philippines all cast the Japanese military as the barbarians they were.
At least 100 million (at least) have died in China under the communists. Do you really think they're better off since we intervened? You know the Germans and the Allies had biological warfare and chemical weapons development research, and nuclear research as well.
The Japs didn't start the war with us Americans, Other than the bloody results of a real "hot war" which we started with a low-level, high-intensity war, why was any of this our problem in the first place? You're advocating intervention, just like our intervention in Iraq or Afghanistan, or Vietnam or Korea.
Since when did the squabbles among non-American people matter to us? Why was it our duty to sort out their lives?
Since when did the squabbles among non-American people matter to us? Why was it our duty to sort out their lives?
You cannot be that thick-headed, can you?
Wars are a racket to profit the zio-bankers and the MIC, period.
Read Smedley Butler and John Perkins to learn about the business of war, and it is a business. No one gives a crap about sorting anyone's lives out.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
JT does. I in particular only care about repairing the damage these wars have done to our national identity. For the rest of the world, this is well in the past. But it is remembered by people we aid Israel against.
JT does. I in particular only care about repairing the damage these wars have done to our national identity.
What the fuck are you talking about and why the fuck don't you let ME put words in MY mouth? Do me a favor and save your indignation and anger for the roll call of daily insults that greet us each morning rather than spin your wheels over events that happened before we were born, and prior to the free flow of information that the 'net offers.
And your suggestion to allow WWII to continue on, with a potential of adding up to a million more military and civilian losses, carries no "implied moral judgement"?
Please....
Get a grip, move away from the dust bin of history, and crawl into the mess we face today.
The Boomer post-war indoctrination to hate is strong in you. Suit yourself. But don't claim Odin is on your side of this debate. Odin commands you to wake up and smell the napalm. The government that would use it against "barbaric" Japs will use it against you too. Don't forget that you're a barbarian to most of the elites in this country.
At the top of each thread here, is an Ignore Thread button that Penguinite installed for us to use, as needed.
FYI
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Get a grip, move away from the dust bin of history, and crawl into the mess we face today.
All of our problems come back to WWI and WWII and how we tell the story to ourselves. All present-day interventions are justified in terms of the early wars in the 20th century. All racial and civil rights policies are justified the same way. Listen to the news of Ukraine and it's all about containing and refusing to appease Putin. Listen to the news about Israel, and it's all about their plight during the wars.
You saw what they did to Ron Paul after he questioned the need to enter WWII, whether Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack or not, and whether we should have supported the communists against the Germans? (And mainland China against Japan by extension.)
It's all about WWI and WWII. We have to find a way to accept that these wars were what destroyed us before we can rebuild.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Lorie, if the world is outraged at what's happening in Gaza, why can't they stop it?
The world is outraged when their computer goes down or internet service is down. They will stop the brutality when all of the Palestinians are dead. What's happening in Gaza is genocide in plain sight and without much concern.
"This place called earth is hell (though it could be heaven).” Those that haven't noticed are without a soul to be redeemed.
And your suggestion to allow WWII to continue on, with a potential of adding up to a million more military and civilian losses, carries no "implied moral judgement"?
It was the Allies who insisted on total surrender, with their Jewish advisers calling for the blood of the heathens. The Germans also tried to negotiate a peace settlement on the western front but also failed.
A war that the British and Americans started did not have to be "finished." Do you know that the Swiss have a standing order that the central government is incapable of surrendering? If the military or the civilian government broadcasts a message to lay down arms, it is stated in advance by long-standing and well-known policy that this order would be rogue and traitorous.
We've been through this before. Didn't you grow up in a nice, clean white neighborhood where all was safe and secure? Wasn't WWII a great, recent event that created harmony throughout the world in your young mind, and didn't it seem like every veteran was a hero?
Didn't you notice how quickly things went to hell? We were busy trying very hard not to be "barbaric." Come out of your youthful reveries and face the music: the wars were what destroyed the potential you believed we had as a child. That was the country that used to exist before the Federal Reserve, before the rise to empire. It was doomed by the Civil War, but the world wars put a nail in the coffin of our freedoms.
Try not to think of the wars as Americans fighting for liberty or revenge. We were fighting to prop up communism in Russia and China. Remember that the next time you start to complain that Obama is a Marxist.
We've been through this before. Didn't you grow up in a nice, clean white neighborhood where all was safe and secure?
Yeah, Flatbush, Brooklyn in the late 50s early 60s was pure suburbia.
Look, you know nothing about me or my moral compass so don't pretend that you do. For you to set yourself up as the arbiter of morality is high comedy at best, a psychological break at worst.