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Title: Bible scholars. What is the answer to this question?
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Published: Aug 10, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-08-10 11:07:00 by Jethro Tull
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Poster Comment: I honestly have no idea if this is true, or even if the question is legitimate. I just find it curious. 
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#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
The answer to your ? is quite simple, Cain The bible says And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. It Never Says "Cain went to live among the people in the land of Nod" The Land of Nod, period. Nothing about people already being in Nod. Hi, I've been reading 4um for a couple of years now this is my first post. Great place filled with great info from some great people, thanks Christine. The Lord says to watch, this is a great place to do just that. Some here are "believers" and some are not, and Im ok with that. There is no "great commission" in the bible, so Im not here to convert or debate. Im not a Bible scholar, not a Pastor, I don't even attend the pointy shed clubhouse that passes itself off as church. The man holding the sign in the picture maybe just in error, just as the "new versions" of scripture written in the last 100 years are. But the bible doesn't say so. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Many warnings, But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. Don't "believe" what others say, including myself. Search the scripture (KJV) to find out whether those things are so. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
And 4um rolls in another awake and aware humanoid..... Welcome terry and thanks for your addition to this topic. My early experience with organized religion has left me totally ignorant in matters of the Bible. These comments have been interesting to say the least.
Thats why they are there. Nothing biblical about them " These comments have been interesting to say the least. " Thanks, Im glad I don't claim to know everything, just read the KJv, not like any other book. Its not meant to be read from page 1 to the end. What ever interest you, and go from there. It will all flow with no contradictions.
I disagree, simply the marriage of the Mesopotamian history with the Hebrew perspective leaves the OT riddled with contradictions. Same is true for the NT, For example, the four Gospels of Jesus are not aligned in anyway. Let us just investigate one NT example of serious contradiction. How does a person get saved? Mathew & Mark state that he who endures to the end will be saved. Mark 16:16 stated that he who believes and is baptized will be saved. John 3:5 stated that only he who is born of water and Spirit will be saved. Acts 16:31 states that he who believes in Jesus will be saved. Acts 2:21 states that he who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 10:9 states that he who confesses with his mouth that Jesis is Lord and believes in his heartthat God raised him from the dead will be saved. John 4:7 states that Jesus implies that all persons can be saved. Timothy 2: 3-4 & Peter 3:9 God wants all to be saved. Mathew 7:21 Not everyone who call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Acts 2:21 & Romans 10:13 says that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Luke 13:24 says that many will try to enter the Kingdom but will be unable. Acts 2:39 says that those God calls to himself will be saved. John 12:40, Acts 2:21, Acts 2:39, Romans 9:27 & Romans 10:13 say that some will not be saved. Mathew 7:12, Luke 10:36-37, Romans 2:6 & 2:13, James 2:24 state that we are justified by our works, not by faith. John 3:7, Romans 3:20-26, Ephesians 2: 8-9 & Galatians 2:16 says that we are justified by faith, not by works. That is a great deal of contradiction to be found on just on issue.
thats cool Just remember, no verse, chapter or book stands alone There is no contradiction just a lack of understanding. Its easy to join a group of verses to show a doctrine one believes in Just ask a calvinist, or a dispensationalist, lol The bible was written by believers, for believers with the inspiriation of God. And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house What is believing holds the answer to the ? I believe in trucks, do I own and drive one, no This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Many fall into that, not saying you do Just be careful In Hebrew, Nod means wandering. Things like that just add to confussion, along with "study bibles", mans words, its gee wiz kinda stuff There is no requirement that a believer understand hebrew or or even greek. To follow any teaching of any nation, to include the one called Israel today. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: Understanding comes from the Spirit, not from a dictionary or any of mans knowledge. Sorry, my intention is not to say your wrong, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. But that scripture (kjv) will only contradict scripture because of our misunderstanding take care all, and thanks
#34. To: terry (#31)
Understanding comes from the Spirit, not from a dictionary or any of mans knowledge. Why were so many direct teachings from Jesus Christ omitted from the canon? 80% of the NT is teaching from sources that were not direct, omitting the teachings of Christ and those closest to him, mostly for political gain and dogma as far as I can tell. If the texts were sufficient unto Christendom, then we would witness Christendom as the light upon the world. Instead, we have seen darkness and confusion that continues to this day. Obviously, belief is not sufficient unto itself. Nor is the reliance upon spirit, as spirit had no part in Christian crusades or quests for empire or burning books or people at the stake. So, we must ask: what is missing for the masses to have gone so astray? In the Gospel of Thomas, Christ teaches that understanding comes from raising your consciousness and that this is the way to salvation. Belief is a beautiful thing. But what shall we consider in light of omission and exclusion or equally God inspired texts? Texts that clarify rather than muddy the fallible mind of man. Seek and you shall find.
There is no contradiction just a lack of understanding. Its easy to join a group of verses to show a doctrine one believes in Just ask a calvinist, or a dispensationalist, lol The bible was written by believers, for believers with the inspiriation of God. And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house What is believing holds the answer to the ? I believe in trucks, do I own and drive one, no This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Many fall into that, not saying you do Just be careful In Hebrew, Nod means wandering. Things like that just add to confussion, along with "study bibles", mans words, its gee wiz kinda stuff There is no requirement that a believer understand hebrew or or even greek. To follow any teaching of any nation, to include the one called Israel today. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: Understanding comes from the Spirit, not from a dictionary or any of mans knowledge. Sorry, my intention is not to say your wrong, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. But that scripture (kjv) will only contradict scripture because of our misunderstanding take care all, and thanks Again, good answer. What many people, particularly many so-called Christians seem to believe is that the Jews of the OT are today still relevant. They are not. ASV 1901 Eph 2 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye that once were far off are made nigh in the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition, 15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; 16 and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: Just one of many many statements of similar prognosis. There is nothing relevant about OT Jews or their customs today. The focal point is Christ himself. Anyone not admitting that cannot possibly understand the basis of salvation. All of Hebrews is a pivotal message for understanding this. Among the problems are that today's "christians" are not much different from "yesterday's" Jews. Heb. 8:9 9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand to lead them forth out of the land of Egypt; For they continued not in my covenant, And I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
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#21. To: terry, 4 (#14)
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
My early experience with organized religion has left me totally ignorant in matters of the Bible.
#27. To: terry (#25)
It will all flow with no contradictions.
#31. To: abraxas (#27)
I disagree
Replies to Comment # 31. The bible was written by believers, for believers with the inspiriation of God.
#47. To: terry (#31)
Just remember, no verse, chapter or book stands alone
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