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Title: Bible scholars. What is the answer to this question?
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Published: Aug 10, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-08-10 11:07:00 by Jethro Tull
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I honestly have no idea if this is true, or even if the question is legitimate. I just find it curious. (1 image)

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#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Bible scholars. What is the answer to this question Where did the people in the Land of Nod come from?

The answer to your ? is quite simple, Cain The bible says And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

It Never Says "Cain went to live among the people in the land of Nod" The Land of Nod, period. Nothing about people already being in Nod.

Hi, I've been reading 4um for a couple of years now this is my first post. Great place filled with great info from some great people, thanks Christine. The Lord says to watch, this is a great place to do just that.

Some here are "believers" and some are not, and Im ok with that. There is no "great commission" in the bible, so Im not here to convert or debate. Im not a Bible scholar, not a Pastor, I don't even attend the pointy shed clubhouse that passes itself off as church.

The man holding the sign in the picture maybe just in error, just as the "new versions" of scripture written in the last 100 years are. But the bible doesn't say so. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Many warnings, But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Don't "believe" what others say, including myself. Search the scripture (KJV) to find out whether those things are so.

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

terry  posted on  2014-08-10   13:39:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: terry, 4 (#14)

And 4um rolls in another awake and aware humanoid.....

Welcome terry and thanks for your addition to this topic. My early experience with organized religion has left me totally ignorant in matters of the Bible. These comments have been interesting to say the least.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-10   14:59:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#21)

My early experience with organized religion has left me totally ignorant in matters of the Bible.

Thats why they are there. Nothing biblical about them

" These comments have been interesting to say the least. "

Thanks, Im glad I don't claim to know everything, just read the KJv, not like any other book. Its not meant to be read from page 1 to the end. What ever interest you, and go from there. It will all flow with no contradictions.

terry  posted on  2014-08-10   15:20:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: terry (#25)

It will all flow with no contradictions.

I disagree, simply the marriage of the Mesopotamian history with the Hebrew perspective leaves the OT riddled with contradictions. Same is true for the NT, For example, the four Gospels of Jesus are not aligned in anyway.

Let us just investigate one NT example of serious contradiction. How does a person get saved?

Mathew & Mark state that he who endures to the end will be saved.

Mark 16:16 stated that he who believes and is baptized will be saved.

John 3:5 stated that only he who is born of water and Spirit will be saved.

Acts 16:31 states that he who believes in Jesus will be saved.

Acts 2:21 states that he who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.

Romans 10:9 states that he who confesses with his mouth that Jesis is Lord and believes in his heartthat God raised him from the dead will be saved.

John 4:7 states that Jesus implies that all persons can be saved.

Timothy 2: 3-4 & Peter 3:9 God wants all to be saved.

Mathew 7:21 Not everyone who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Acts 2:21 & Romans 10:13 says that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Luke 13:24 says that many will try to enter the Kingdom but will be unable.

Acts 2:39 says that those God calls to himself will be saved.

John 12:40, Acts 2:21, Acts 2:39, Romans 9:27 & Romans 10:13 say that some will not be saved.

Mathew 7:12, Luke 10:36-37, Romans 2:6 & 2:13, James 2:24 state that we are justified by our works, not by faith.

John 3:7, Romans 3:20-26, Ephesians 2: 8-9 & Galatians 2:16 says that we are justified by faith, not by works.

That is a great deal of contradiction to be found on just on issue.

abraxas  posted on  2014-08-10   15:31:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas, 4 (#27)

An excellent example of why we are to study for ourselves, and why I mainly stick to the words of Christ Himself; not his biographers.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-10   15:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#29)

I mainly stick to the words of Christ Himself; not his biographers.

Personally, I believe that Christ taught the teaching of salvation in the Gospel of Thomas. Rather than saying a few words or claiming allegiance as a way to get there, he teaches that we are to raise our Consciousness. He also teaches that the Kingdom is right here and if we succeed in raising our Consciousness we will enter...no need to wait until your dead to get there.

abraxas  posted on  2014-08-10   16:02:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: abraxas (#32)

I don't know the Gospel of Thomas...it will be checked out, thanks.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-10   16:29:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

A search for the Gospel of Thomas returned almost 8.5M results.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-10   16:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#37)

Gospel of Thomas returned almost 8.5M results.

Yes, it is a much discussed text because it contains so much wisdom and symbolism too. Prior to the creation of the canon, Christendom was a much different religion that what we see today. This text was widely read and revered as were many others that were omitted.

abraxas  posted on  2014-08-10   16:46:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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