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Title: Christian Zionism: The Tragedy and The Turning
Source: Zen Gardner
URL Source: http://www.zengardner.com/christian-zionism-tragedy-turning/
Published: Aug 18, 2014
Author: david
Post Date: 2014-08-18 19:49:40 by Lorie Meacham
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Views: 100
Comments: 7

An excellent exposé of the roots of Christian Zionism, from the standpoint of a simple foundational Christian. So much for the war-loving archonic mind god Jehovah. Pass it on to those ensnared by this complete lie,
Christian Zionism: The Tragedy and The Turning, Part I (Full Documentary) from WHTT on Vimeo.
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#1. To: Lorie Meacham (#0) (Edited)
As I tell friends who are Christian... If Israel and Jews are chosen as Scofield and the Zionists claim then we should all covert to this form of Judaism. Then we can sin all we want, fast one day out of the year and then go back to sinning because we are already covered by the Covenant. I tell them, if this is the case, we should just dump Jesus, convert and we have it made... as Dundee said "No worries mate".
Leviticus 26
13 I am the Lord your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.
14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;
15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:
16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.
19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:
20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.
21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.
22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;
24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.
25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.
26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.
27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.
31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours.
32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.
33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.
34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.
35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it.
36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth.
37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.
39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them.
40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.
Again, if they are automatically covered no matter what they do, we should all convert and live the way we want without any concern. It also means, Jesus was sent and suffered for nothing. I can't seem to find where it says He was just wasting his time and didn't need to suffer in my Bible.

bush_is_a_moonie posted on 2014-08-18 21:19:08 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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By the way, this was one of the discussions that got me booted from Liberty Ghost.

bush_is_a_moonie posted on 2014-08-18 21:23:23 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)
Once again welcome.

Deasy posted on 2014-08-18 21:29:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#4. To: Deasy (#3) (Edited)
Thanks. I've been a poster on here for probably 6-8 years I guess. I look over here now and then because Christine and most of the others on here do not ignore the truth, facts etc. simply because it is politically correct to do so. I spend on lot of time now on FB because I have (maybe unfortunately LOL) an obsession with neocons, politicians and what I term "Christians of convenience" and because most of the people on here are a bit too civilized LOL.

bush_is_a_moonie posted on 2014-08-18 21:45:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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