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Title: WATCH THIS, THE LOCALS KNOW THE FERGUSON RIOTERS ARE PAID
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Published: Aug 20, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-08-20 20:08:23 by Horse
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#2. To: Horse, 4 (#0)

The Ferguson riot is typical of every riot I've been involved in, including the influx of outside agitators. My point being, since LBJs 1964 Civil Rights act, and the injection of trillions? of taxpayer dollars, Black ghettos are behaving exactly the same as they were 50 years ago. The only difference is the militarization of police departments which people like us identified years ago and rightfully reject.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   14:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#2)

www.nbcnews.com/storyline...rest-records-show-n184036

Jail records obtained by NBC News show that at least 78 people were arrested overnight at the protests in Ferguson, Missouri — more than double the total reported by authorities — and that the overwhelming majority of them were from Missouri.

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The records show that 18 people from outside Missouri were arrested Monday night and early Tuesday. They came came from as far away as Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and San Diego.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   14:10:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#4)

dorian johnson charged with theft, filing false statement -

www.ijreview.com/2014/08/...ling-false-police-report/

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   14:49:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#5)

I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-21   15:14:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: purplerose (#7)

I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

The owner of the QT would be the complaint in the matter. We have no idea what he has testified to vis a vis the role Dorian Johnson played in this mess.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   15:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#10)

Police incident report about Mike Brown's strong arm robbery along with his accomplice, Dorian Johnson. This might bring light to purplerose's question about why Dorian Johnson has not been charged with being an accomplice in the OT strong robbery case.

FYI, purplerose, be prepared to read some bad news - i.e. it appears that MB and DJ, indeed, were main suspects in the crime.

Att'n All: There's a notation at the top of the pages under the slot labeled "Status" wherein the phrase "Exceptionally Cleared" is used.

JT - does that mean because Dorian Johnson is a key witness in the Grand Jury hearing of the Mike Brown/Officer Wilson case as well as possibly being a key witness for the DOJ if Holder decides to charge Officer Wilson for civil rights violations, Dorian Johnson has received "special clearance" from being charged as Mike Brown's accomplice in the robbery?

Mike Brown - for obvious reasons - also has the same "Exceptionally Cleared" notation on the police report.

www.scribd.com/doc/236905...epartment-incident-report

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   15:55:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#14)

1. For what it's worth, here's a def'n re: exceptional clearance from a criminal justice glossary:

plsinfo.org/healthysmc/12/glossary.html

CLEARANCE: a crime is cleared or "solved" for crime reporting purposes when at least one person is arrested, charged with the commission of the crime, and turned over to the court for prosecution or cited to juvenile authorities. In certain situations a clearance may be counted by "exceptional means" when the police definitely know the identity of the offender, have enough information to support an arrest, and know the location of the offender but for some reason cannot take the offender into custody.

2. Here's a def'n/description from the FBI site:

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Cleared by exceptional means

In certain situations, elements beyond law enforcement’s control prevent the agency from arresting and formally charging the offender. When this occurs, the agency can clear the offense exceptionally. Law enforcement agencies must meet the following four conditions in order to clear an offense by exceptional means. The agency must have:

Identified the offender.

Gathered enough evidence to support an arrest, make a charge, and turn over the offender to the court for prosecution.

Identified the offender’s exact location so that the suspect could be taken into custody immediately.

Encountered a circumstance outside the control of law enforcement that prohibits the agency from arresting, charging, and prosecuting the offender.

Examples of exceptional clearances include, but are not limited to, the death of the offender (e.g., suicide or justifiably killed by police or citizen); the victim’s refusal to cooperate with the prosecution after the offender has been identified; or the denial of extradition because the offender committed a crime in another jurisdiction and is being prosecuted for that offense. In the UCR Program, the recovery of property alone does not clear an offense.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   16:10:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#17)

For anyone who is inclined, friends of Officer Wilson have set up a website to donate $ for his future financial needs, including legal fees. Hat tip to randge for finding the site.

I assume that the police union's legal support might have a cap limit. And I would think there's a good chance that Mike Brown's parents may/will launch a civil suit.

Based on what I've read per messages from donors, people are disturbed that Officer Brown has been tried and judged guilty by a kangaroo court set up by professional race baiters, biased MSM, and officials at the highest levels of government, before he has been given the opportunity to tell his side of story.

Personally I don't think that this is a case about police brutality or military -ization of police. IMHO this is a case of a good police officer forced into a horrific situation, who is being railroaded without cause, for political reasons.

I've read there's also a fund raising site for Michael Brown's family. I don't have the link, but if any of you are interested in donating to the Brown family, you can probably find it thru a google search.

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

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This page has been created to support Officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department.

We stand behind Officer Darren Wilson and his family during this trying time in their lives. All proceeds will be sent directly to Darren Wilson and his family for any financial needs they may have including legal fees.

If anyone has questions regarding our page please feel free to contact us through this page.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   17:15:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: scrapper2 (#27)

No way am I funding Wilson. I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-21   17:17:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: purplerose (#29)

No way am I funding Wilson. I already gave to Mike Brown's family.

I always did see through you.

Turtle  posted on  2014-08-21   17:22:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Turtle (#32)

What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice. That is where a federal grand jury will see to this.

purplerose  posted on  2014-08-21   17:26:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: purplerose (#34)

What I want to see is Wilson brought to justice.

Justice is for the aggrieved, prosecution is for the guilty.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-21   17:31:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Cynicom (#36)

Justice is for the aggrieved, prosecution is for the guilty.

What's going on with Officer Wilson now is none of the above.

I think the phrase "persecution for political reasons" is more appropriate.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   17:52:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: scrapper2 (#43)

I think the phrase "persecution for political reasons" is more appropriate.

And white American politicians say nothing.

Not one elected will stand up and denounce Obama, Holder.

Gutless bastards.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-21   17:57:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#44) (Edited)

True.

But in their defense, since this such a politically, racially charged situation with continued violence, looting, and rioting in Ferguson I think it's the only thing they should do under the circumstances.

Consider what happened after Capt Jackson released the QT video tape in response to FOIA's that showed Michael Johnson - by his actions - in a negative light. Ferguson Blacks went nuts that weekend.

The Blacks in Ferguson have embraced Holder like he's "their brother, their man, their DOJ."

Can you imagine the firestorm if any elected official came out and criticized "their" Holder or "their President" Obama?

On a side note, many donors to Officer Wilson fund raiser website only identify themselves as "anonymous." I think they fear negative repercussions either to themselves and family members, or to their businesses, or to their town, neighborhood. I'd wager that donors at Mike Brown's family fund raising site identify themselves by 1st and or/last name way more often than using "anonymous." Just a wild guess...

Officer Wilson's supporters wanted to organize a rally and they couldn't find a business that would volunteer use of their facility or parking lot in Ferguson. A pub owned by police officers on the edge of Ferguson finally offered their facility and parking lot for the rally and they will be providing free wings and free non-alcoholic beverages ( my understanding last I checked their Facebook page).

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   18:26:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: scrapper2 (#50)

I told'em to use my name - I'm proud to have donated to Wilson's defense fund.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   18:37:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Lod (#52)

Where is url for that?

Cynicom  posted on  2014-08-21   18:40:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom, 4 (#54)

thanks to scrap -

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: All (#58)

Dang, when I donated, there was only 134+K in the kitty.

Good job, people!

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:07:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Lod, scrapper2, 4 (#59)

$161,266 now

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:18:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

We should have internet trials and voting.

Lod  posted on  2014-08-21   19:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Lod (#62)

We should have internet trials and voting.

Yes, and then convene Grand Juries for the real racists; Holder, Sharpton, Jackson and Obama.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   19:25:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

How can this Grand Jury judging the Ferguson case not be unfairly influenced by the biased "news" reporting in MSM?

Or are they held in seclusion for big cases?

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   19:30:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: scrapper2, 4 (#64)

Grand Juries aren't sequestered so this GJ is most assuredly tainted thanks to Nixon, Holder, Obama and the MSM. I'm surprised his attorney disn't ask for a change of venue and rolled the dice away from Ferguson. I wouldn’t trust anyone there after hearing and seeing the various street interviews over the past week.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-08-21   20:05:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, sneaky pete, Too Conservative, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, ghostdogtxn, All (#66)

If any of you post at other blogs ( LP, FR, lucianne, NRA etc) whose members you think might be interested in supporting Officer Wilson's right to a fair trial and expert legal counsel, please direct them to the following fund raising website some friends have established on Officer Wilson's behalf here:

www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

A few days ago I thought that once all the evidence was heard by the GJ, the Truth would set Officer Wilson free. But now with all the pressure being brought to bear by what I perceive to be, for lack of a better description - a lynch mob - I'm not optimistic that Truth will be enough. I fear that a GJ indictment is almost certain due to unfair influence by external forces, and Officer Wilson will need to hire a private attorney to assist and/or direct the legal services that his police union can afford to provide.

In this country everyone including Officer Wilson should have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be what Officer Wilson is experiencing.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21   20:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: scrapper2 (#67)

Time to thank you again for your relentless assembly of facts here.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-21   20:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#74. To: Deasy (#68)

For some reason this case involving Officer Wilson has struck a chord with me.

His photos show an open face and a nice smile but his eyes seem a bit sad, suggesting an "old soul."

Officer Wilson didn't have an easy "cracker" life. His mother and Dad broke up after 4 years of marriage. Then she re-married 2 more times. Ultimately she was charged with forgery and died shortly thereafter when Officer Wilson was age 16. With all this upheaval in his life, he still managed to be on the honor roll at school. After his mother died, his step father - with his Dad's approval - applied for temporary guardianship so Officer Wilson could finish high school at same place. While in high school he was a member of the school newspaper club and he played varsity hockey. His friend said that though hockey can be an aggressive physical sport, Officer Wilson never engaged in hockey fighting nor did he play dirty.

Other friends say he's a nice, gentle, even tempered guy who never had a bad thing to say about anyone. He used to walk or ride his bike everywhere - he didn't have a car in high school like some of the other kids.

A few years after finishing high school, he joined the police force at age 22. His friends said that Officer Wilson loved being a police officer. When he transferred to the Ferguson police department, he would work out in Ferguson even tho his friends thought it was not a great area but Officer Wilson said he liked the people there - he thought they were interesting.

He got married to his girlfriend at the time but the marriage was short lived and they divorced in Nov, 2013.

He bought a house just before the divorce was finalized - it's an older ranch style home but it has a swimming pool and a neighbor said Officer Wilson used to allow teenagers on the street to use his pool on hot nights. Neighbors also said they'd see his thin lanky self walking his dog after work. His house had a couch on the veranda for kicking back. He's wasn't a partier. He was quiet and lived with his current girlfriend ( also a police officer) at his house.

Another person who was interviewed said he was considering joining the police force so he got permission "to ride" with Officer Wilson one night in Ferguson. There was an incident involving a hysterical woman who needed to be taken to a hospital. The paramedics were uncomfortable transporting this out-of -control woman so they called police for help. Evidently Officer Wilson tried to calm the woman down, but it didn't work. So he came up with a solution that satisfied the patient and the medics - he asked her if she'd prefer traveling in her family's car rather than the ambulance - she said yes and calmed down and everyone left happy. Other policemen might have shouted at her or bullied her which would have made her more agitated. But Officer Wilson stayed calm through the whole rather frustrating emotional incident according to this "ride along" person. Approx. 6 months ago Officer Wilson was called to an incident involving a drug trafficker who had lots of weed in his truck. Officer Wilson didn't use force to subdue the guy - apparently he patiently waited with the drug trafficker in the truck talking to him calmly until other police cars arrived to take the guy into custody. Officer Wilson got a commendation for how he handled that incident.

Nothing I've read about Officer Wilson suggests that he was a pugnacious, over bearing, quick tempered, obnoxious racist. Everything I've read about him suggests he's a good person, who has had to survive a tumultous early family life, but he landed on his feet and is just trying to make a career for himself and get by in life like the rest of us.

Officer Wilson could be anyone of us. For all his efforts to keep his head down and work hard and strive for "the American Dream" - as it were - unfortunately he found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time literally with regards to Michael Brown and figuratively as it relates to current US politics. IMHO, he is being scape-goated and Officer Wilson could be you or me depending on the situation. His financial resources are very limited - he's age 28 earning an annual salary of around $46,000 and he has a house mortgage to pony up. One of the donors at the fund raising site remarked that Officer Wilson is up against some of the most powerful people and agencies in our gov't with unlimited funds at their disposal.

I feel very sad for Officer Wilson ( I can't seem to get those sad, old soul, blue eyes out of my mind) that he is being betrayed so viciously and relentlessly by the nation he was so excited and happy and proud to serve as a police officer. Shame on all of us if we allow Officer Wilson to become a sacrificial lamb.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-08-21 22:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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