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Title: WATCH THIS, THE LOCALS KNOW THE FERGUSON RIOTERS ARE PAID
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Published: Aug 20, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-08-20 20:08:23 by Horse
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Comments: 94

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#2. To: Horse, 4 (#0)

The Ferguson riot is typical of every riot I've been involved in, including the influx of outside agitators. My point being, since LBJs 1964 Civil Rights act, and the injection of trillions? of taxpayer dollars, Black ghettos are behaving exactly the same as they were 50 years ago. The only difference is the militarization of police departments which people like us identified years ago and rightfully reject.

Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 14:03:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#4. To: All (#2)

www.nbcnews.com/storyline...rest-records-show-n184036

Jail records obtained by NBC News show that at least 78 people were arrested overnight at the protests in Ferguson, Missouri — more than double the total reported by authorities — and that the overwhelming majority of them were from Missouri.

-Snip

The records show that 18 people from outside Missouri were arrested Monday night and early Tuesday. They came came from as far away as Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and San Diego.

Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 14:10:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#5. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#4)

dorian johnson charged with theft, filing false statement -

www.ijreview.com/2014/08/...ling-false-police-report/

Lod posted on 2014-08-21 14:49:16 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#7. To: Lod (#5)

I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 15:14:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#10. To: purplerose (#7)

I am still at question as to why this Dorian Johnson was never arrested in the first place.

The owner of the QT would be the complaint in the matter. We have no idea what he has testified to vis a vis the role Dorian Johnson played in this mess.

Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 15:24:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#14. To: Jethro Tull, purplerose, Lod, X-15, randge, Cynicom, Deasy, christine, Diana, James Deffenbach, abraxas, farmfriend, All (#10)

Police incident report about Mike Brown's strong arm robbery along with his accomplice, Dorian Johnson. This might bring light to purplerose's question about why Dorian Johnson has not been charged with being an accomplice in the OT strong robbery case.

FYI, purplerose, be prepared to read some bad news - i.e. it appears that MB and DJ, indeed, were main suspects in the crime.

Att'n All: There's a notation at the top of the pages under the slot labeled "Status" wherein the phrase "Exceptionally Cleared" is used.

JT - does that mean because Dorian Johnson is a key witness in the Grand Jury hearing of the Mike Brown/Officer Wilson case as well as possibly being a key witness for the DOJ if Holder decides to charge Officer Wilson for civil rights violations, Dorian Johnson has received "special clearance" from being charged as Mike Brown's accomplice in the robbery?

Mike Brown - for obvious reasons - also has the same "Exceptionally Cleared" notation on the police report.

www.scribd.com/doc/236905...epartment-incident-report

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 15:55:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#18. To: scrapper2 (#14) (Edited)

Good find scrap.

The Ferguson, PD seems to be using the term "Exceptionally Cleared" to mean that the case is closed by means other than an arrest. With Brown, his death was the "exception" (other than arrest). As far as Johnson, the "exception" isn't known, but as noted there has been no arrest. I'm guessing he is cooperating with the feds.

BTW I'm hearing (from an NYPD forum) there might be some dashboard cam footage from Wilson's radio car that has been entered into evidence.

Jethro Tull posted on 2014-08-21 16:12:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#25. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

BTW I'm hearing (from an NYPD forum) there might be some dashboard cam footage from Wilson's radio car that has been entered into evidence.

Thanks for your (experienced) opinion about why Dorian Johnson received an "exceptional clearance" - i.e. co-operation with the Feds - now that I think about it, I seem to recall that Dorian Johnson's attorney actually mentioned something to that effect in one of his pressers.

Re: dash camera from Officer Wilson's car - really? - that would be fabulous!!! - but I thought CNN and/or MSNBC claimed that that though Chief Jackson had recently received dashboard cameras for the Ferguson police cars, they had arrived just shortly before the Michael Brown shooting happened and were still in boxes.

Maybe MSM got their facts wrong - it wouldn't be the first time that's for sure.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 16:38:43 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#30. To: scrapper2 (#25) (Edited)

Why did the cops give Dorian Johnson an "exceptional clearance" when he was with Brown at the time of the theft took place? Both were seen on the store camera.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 17:19:26 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#40. To: purplerose (#30)

Did you even bother to read information I posted re: 2 defn's of "exceptional clearance" in msg. #17?

Or JT's opinion in #18 based on his personal experience in law enforcement?

Here...I'll snip some stuff from #17 for you to ponder. I'll even capitalize key phrases as "clues" for you. Let me know if you want me to breathe and exhale for you, too.

"In certain situations a clearance may be counted by "exceptional means" when the police definitely know the identity of the offender, have enough information to support an arrest, and know the location of the offender but for some reason cannot take the offender into custody." Clue: FOR SOME REASON

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"Law enforcement agencies must meet the following four conditions in order to clear an offense by exceptional means. The agency must have:

Identified the offender.

Gathered enough evidence to support an arrest, make a charge, and turn over the offender to the court for prosecution.

Identified the offender’s exact location so that the suspect could be taken into custody immediately.

Encountered a circumstance outside the control of law enforcement that prohibits the agency from arresting, charging, and prosecuting the offender.

Clue: ENCOUNTERED A CIRCUMSTANCE OUTSIDE THE CONTROL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT PROHIBITS

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scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 17:48:25 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#77. To: scrapper2 (#40) (Edited)

Well, in my estimation, those cops are just as guilty because when I watched a video account of Mike Brown shoving aside the clerk before he made haste outside the store, I noticed that his friend Dorian Johnson had already made his exit outside the store all the while his friend Brown was attempting to make his exit. This is where the police fucked up BIG TIME. They should have arrested Dorian and charged him with being an accessory to a crime. Being an accessory to a crime is nothing to laugh at or ignore but the police failed to do their duty on this one.

Instead, for some reason they chose not to arrest and charge Dorian and that is where the federal grand jury will question Wilson inaddition to the shooting done on Brown. And interesting enough, all cops record communication when confronting a suspect even during times of hot pursuit cases. They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-21 23:08:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#79. To: purplerose (#77) (Edited)

They are gonna have to explain why and where THAT tape is concerning their communication with Brown prior to him getting gunned down. That may even have to be subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

No offense but you're off your rocker.

The tape has not disappeared. It's not hidden anywhere.

Chief Jackson responded to the Freedom of Information request and released it for the entire nation to view last Friday at a presser... over the objections of Eric Holder, I might add, who wanted to suppress the tape from public view.

The police records regarding the investigation of the QT strong-arm robbery by Big Mike and Dorian Johnson have also been released to the public. How else do you think I'd be able to provide a link to the full-text police reports in msg. #17? FYI there was no "communication" with Michael Brown. Didn't you read the police reports? The investigating officer who went to interview the shop manager and the shop witnesses couldn't find Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson on the street near the shop. They were already long gone.

The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "exceptional clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).

Anything else I can clarify for you?

It's frustrating to have a discussion with you on this subject because it seems like you have made up your mind on the issue yet you have questions and want research information provided to you on a silver platter in response. But after the information is provided you come back again with more questions that reveal you are totally confused about actual facts of the case (as opposed to opinions) and that you haven't bothered or cared to read the information provided to you in regards to your previous questions.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-21 23:46:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#80. To: scrapper2 (#79) (Edited)

"Chief Jackson..."
Anything else I can clarify for you?

Who is Chief Jackson???

The reason Dorian Johnson has not been charged is because the Ferguson Police Department are PROHIBITED from doing so because of "extraordinary clearance" issued to Dorian Johnson by the DOJ ( Eric Holder).

Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted up excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime. And now that you tell me about the police being prohibited from charging this Dorian guy with accessory to a crime, I am convinced that this whole investigation has been grossly compromised. Dorian saw something take place outside that QT store and because of this, he is the star witness to this entire mess. They already struck a deal with Dorian that if he does not testify against them, they will not charge him with any crime. And because of this it all smells of collusion, malfeasance, and corruption within the police department of highest level in that town.

purplerose posted on 2014-08-22 0:35:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#82. To: purplerose (#80) (Edited)

1. Who is Chief Jackson???
2. Which sounds to me like a coverup in progress and complete bullshit! He should have been charged period. "Extraordinary clearance" is just a concocted excuse to allow this dude to walk away from a crime.

1. He's the Ferguson Police Chief.

Hwy Patrol Capt Johnson, appointed by Governor Nixon, was temporarily put in charge of riot, looting control.

2. Eric Holder and the DOJ and his 40 FBI officers are conducting their own investigation as to whether or not Michael Brown's civil rights were violated under the color of law. You can read about the Federal Statute here:

www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

Anyway it appears that Dorian Johnson is co-operating with the Feds in their investigation - he's a witness to the tragedy - so that's why the DOJ has given him "Exceptional Clearance" on being an accomplice to the QT robbery. This clearance prohibits the Ferguson Police dept from ever charging Dorian Johnson in that specific crime. It is what it is.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 1:02:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#83. To: scrapper2 (#82) (Edited)

It is what it is.

What it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

purplerose posted on 2014-08-22 1:07:15 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#84. To: purplerose (#83) (Edited)

hat it actually IS is a coverup. A deal has already been struck up between Dorian and Police Dept including the U.S. DOJ. In other words he has agreed to not testify against the police for the unlawful shooting of his friend, Mike Brown, and in return the police and DOJ will not charge him with a crime. To sum it all up, nobody goes to jail!

My guess is that the Ferguson Police Dept would love to charge Dorian Johnson ( who has a rap sheet, btw)and throw him in jail.

The exceptional clearance is from Eric Holder and the DOJ.

Eric Holder appears to have an agenda to charge Officer Wilson with something, anything for political and possibly even for personal reasons.

The Ferguson Police Dept does not share Eric Holder's agenda.

I don't see any way whatsoever that the Ferguson Police Dept would be party to the DOJ giving Dorian Johnson - a lying criminal weasel in their eyes - a get out of jail free pass.

Think about it. Dorian Johnson's testimony will be at odds with Officer Wilson's testimony.

scrapper2 posted on 2014-08-22 1:29:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#85. To: scrapper2 (#84)

Clearance has got nothing to do with the feds.

He's gonna get that from the local prosecutor.

Johnson's attorney offered up a "no comment" when asked if his client has been offered immunity, which leads me to believe that he has and that he's turning state's evidence.

randge posted on 2014-08-22 8:12:06 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#86. To: randge (#85)