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Title: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
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Published: Aug 23, 2014
Author: IZ - performer
Post Date: 2014-08-23 18:09:44 by Lod
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#23. To: Dakmar (#5)

Forget it. I battled the stuff for twelve years. The only way I was able to escape the trumpet vines was to sell the place.

Now only cultivate that which grows upon my sufferance!

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-23   21:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: randge (#23)

Trumpet vine has convinced me that evil exists in the biblical sense. I have dug up mulberries, I have obliterated nightshades, I've had poison ivy for breakfast, but this crap has me beat.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#22)

I'd gladly kill a gook for this! (just kidding)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dakmar (#24)

The trumpet vines were a particular nuisance as they grew between a neighbor's fence and mine which had been built to run along side on another for about 30 feet. I managed to kill them at the root (along with a lot of my neighbor's lawn) with gobs of glyphosphate, (Yeah, I know don't say it.) But then I noticed the trumpet vines poking up in other spots on the property.

We did get hummingbirds from time to time, but not all that often. Hard to appreciate them they zoom around so fast. On the odd occasion that they showed up to drink from the trumpet blossoms, they usually scared the crap outta me shooting around like outsized hornets. A hummingbird so startled me once that I nearly chopped my peg leg in half with a chainsaw I was running.

Ah, nature.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2014-08-23   21:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#26) (Edited)

I had no idea what trumpet vines were until a neighbor planted them ten or twelve years ago. I started noticing suckers coming up in my yard a few years after that. Everywhere! Mexicans bought the house last year and cut all of it down, which I thought was great. No dice, they will sprout up 18-24 inches in a week! I've sprayed with Ortho Weed-B-Gone, Bayer, Round-Up, PoisonIvy/Vine Killer, and cat piss. I'm thinking TRIOX, but that will kill the grass, too.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#27)

Try putting down clear, heavy-duty plastic sheeting, very well sealed, to bake the roots in the summer heat; after mowing it all down to the ground, and pissing on it.

Good luck.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   21:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28)

Somehow, we've swerved away from the huge Hawaiian....but that's OK.

There's lawn care needs to be met also.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   21:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: randge (#26)

I probably wouldn't even mind the hassle of having to mow, but I read on real (not conspiracy) gardening sites that trumpet vines have baseball bat sized roots and will punch right through concrete.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Lod (#28)

Try putting down clear, heavy-duty plastic sheeting, very well sealed, to bake the roots in the summer heat; after mowing it all down to the ground, and pissing on it.

At some point, it would be more fun to rent a backhoe and just dig myself a pool.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Dakmar (#30)

how to kill vines - (besides moving to OK) -

www.wikihow.com/Kill-Vines

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   21:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#29)

Somehow, we've swerved away from the huge Hawaiian....but that's OK.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   21:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#32)

Nice, Loddy, but are you familiar with National Homes? I got no room for lambies and goaties!

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:09:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#32)

back on track here -

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   22:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar, Lod (#16)

Retain whatever tenuous grasp on sanity that you have

Out west one seldom hears about the Mason-Dixon line. Out east the closer you get to it the more liberal prejudice there is toward those who live even close to it. I call it the nearline arrogance.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   22:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#35)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deasy (#36)

Out west one seldom hears about the Mason-Dixon line. Out east the closer you get to it the more liberal prejudice there is toward those who live even close to it. I call it the nearline arrogance.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Dakmar (#5)

Anyonone know how to kill a hummingbird (vine)?

Try a combination of used motor oil and 2,4-D.

It's the bankers fault !

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

Buzzard  posted on  2014-08-23   22:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deasy (#36)

Out west, you were still mexicon territory, yet to be conquered.

What you call arrogance, many still call reality of the north/south division which has not ended to this day.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   22:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dakmar (#38)

Resurrected a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses who were buried nearby!

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   22:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Buzzard (#39)

Try a combination of used motor oil and 2,4-D.

Umm, isn't that pretty much what TRIOX is? Hell, I could use habenero sauce if I didn't care about killing the grass.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Deasy (#41)

Resurrected a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses who were buried nearby!

One of my favorite Dillard's quotes. Mitch Jayne wrote a couple of books, "Home Grown Stories & Home Fried Lies" was excellent, highly recommended.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deasy (#41)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deasy (#41)

this song makes me cry

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: deasy (#45)

deja vu

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   22:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Obnoxicated (#7)

I opened this page expecting Judy Garland and you give me Liza Minnelli? C'mon man

Me too.

farmfriend  posted on  2014-08-23   23:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Dakmar (#42)

isn't that pretty much what TRIOX is?

A reading of the Triox MSDS shows its active ingredients to be a combination of glyphosate (roundup) and imazapyr.

What I suggested is a quick and dirty way of creating an Agent Orange-like herbicide.

Apply it directly to the leaves of the vine. Those gray sponge paintbrushes work well.

It's the bankers fault !

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

Buzzard  posted on  2014-08-23   23:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: farmfriend, 4 (#47)

best album title - ever - did i shave my legs for this?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-08-23   23:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dakmar (#46)

W'all believe that's the perdiest thing ah ever herd.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   23:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend, Obnoxicated, Deasy (#47)

I opened this page expecting Judy Garland and you give me Liza Minnelli? C'mon man

intersectionality... :)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   23:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: farmfriend, Obnoxicated, Buzzard, Dakmar, Lod, randge, Jethro Tull, christine, Give Me Liberty, , *Up to the Sun* (#47) (Edited)

youtu.be/5ZOAiSP1MGs - "Hawaii '78" by Israel Kamakawio'ole

Ua mau ke ea o ka `âina i ka pono `o Hawai'i
Being perpetuated (is) the sovereignty of the land to righteousness/ to balance, Hawai`i
Ua mau ke ea o ka `âina i ka pono `o Hawai'i

If just for a day our king and queen
Would visit all these islands and saw everything
How would they feel about the changes of our land
Could you just imagine if they were around
And saw highways on their sacred grounds
How would they feel about this modern city life?

Tears would come from each other's eyes
As they would stop to realize
That our people are in great, great danger now
How would they feel?
Would their smiles be content, then cry

Chorus:
Cry for the gods, cry for the people
Cry for the land that was taken away
And then yet you'll find, Hawai'i.

Could you just imagine they came back
And saw traffic lights and railroad tracks
How would they feel about this modern city life
Tears would come from each other's eyes
As they would stop to realize
That our land is in great, great danger now.

All the fighting that the King has done
To conquer all these islands, now these condominiums
How would he feel if he saw Hawai'i nei?
How would he feel? Would his smile be content, then cry?

(E hana hou i ka hui)
(Repeat chorus)

Ua mau ke ea o ka `âina i ka pono `o Hawai'i
Ua mau ke ea o ka `âina i ka pono `o Hawai'i.

youtu.be/5ZOAiSP1MGs

This song is by a guy also famous for singing over the rainbow. It's one of the big dude's best: Hawaii '78. is a song about losing the land of ones forefathers to modernity and foreign invaders. I suggest listening to it with an open heart, recognizing that our own land is sacred and we too are losing our lands to globalism the very empire that was built in our own name.

Our ancestors used to be sacred. May they be so again. In this way, Hawaiians like Israel Kamakawiwo'ole know much better than we what we ourselves are losing. Like poor Hawaiians, many around us don't recognize the changes. They don't see the invaders and the cruel masters who bring them here. But our forebears would have us notice. And they would have us fight it.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   23:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Deasy (#52)

and he walked and he fiddled and he drank 'til he died

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2014-08-23   23:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Lod (#49)

best album title - ever - did i shave my legs for this?

My vote in the above mentioned category goes to the old Joe Walsh album, The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get.

And he's one musician who could always back that up, too.

It's the bankers fault !

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

Buzzard  posted on  2014-08-23   23:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Deasy (#52)

I read the lyrics, Deasy. It's sad, but he did mention all the islands his king conquered, so I ain't feeling too bad. That's some prime realestate they were sitting on, but it's only yours for as long as you can hold onto it.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-08-23   23:50:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Deasy (#52)

Hawaiians like Israel Kamakawiwo'ole know much better than we what we ourselves are losing.

Bruddah Iz passed several years prior to my moving to Oahu. Some of the locals turned me on to his work. They held him in very high regard.

It's the bankers fault !

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

Buzzard  posted on  2014-08-23   23:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Buzzard, Jethro Tull (#54) (Edited)

Isn't Rocky Mountain Way from that album? I've always figured this was an anthem against the new liberal politics that came out of the hippies moving their "socialist revolution" into government.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   23:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Buzzard (#56)

Bruddah Iz passed several years prior to my moving to Oahu.

He set a high standard for ethnic nationalism. Full of love for his people, never hating others, but ready to defend what had been in his heritage in the best way he knew.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-23   23:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Deasy (#57)

Isn't Rocky Mountain High from that album?

I heard an interview where Joe was asked that question.

He replied, "No. That's John Denver's song".

He then went on to perform a live version of Rocky Mountain Way.

It's the bankers fault !

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

Buzzard  posted on  2014-08-23   23:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Buzzard (#59)

Edited before I saw your correction, thanks.

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-24   0:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Deasy (#52)

his voice is beautiful in that song...

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2014-08-24   0:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Obnoxicated (#55) (Edited)

That's some prime realestate they were sitting on, but it's only yours for as long as you can hold onto it.

That's exactly what he's telling us: don't you feel that our government no longer represents us? Then is this still our country? Or are we on a reservation now?

Deasy  posted on  2014-08-24   7:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Deasy (#62) (Edited)

In the system they have in place now, we're all considered assets, with a set value as potential tax revenue generators that this system uses to determine this country's international credit value. That's how this system looks at us. That's also one of the reasons they're allowing illegals to flood this country. To the PTBs, it doesn't matter how we see ourselves. I get the gist of the song. The dude's pining for the days of old, the same way a lot of old posters here do. Thing is, you have to learn to roll with the punches and either adapt or get left in the dust.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-08-24   9:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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