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Title: Penetrating the darkness covering two Malaysian airplane disasters
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Published: Sep 5, 2014
Author: John Chuckman
Post Date: 2014-09-05 23:32:33 by Tatarewicz
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Pravda... In each case, there appears to be only one explanation consistent with known facts

I wrote previously of a second great mystery surrounding the disappearance over the Indian Ocean of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, and that second great mystery is the United States' utter silence surrounding its disappearance, despite its being the very nation able to offer the best information from the world's most sophisticated radars and spy satellites. There can be no question that the United States gathered data on that catastrophe because its military and intelligence surveillance is unblinking. The fact that we did not hear a word from America, and still do not, can only mean its government wants the event, like the airplane itself, to sink, in this case into public forgetfulness.

Now we have a second Malaysian Airliner destroyed (its national origin is presumably sheer coincidence), Flight MH17, this time at a location from which the wreckage was recoverable. The American press immediately jumped to the conclusion that a Russian high-altitude anti-aircraft missile called BUK was responsible, which surely reflected nothing more than suggestive whispers from American intelligence since no evidence was offered. The altitude of the plane before it was destroyed excluded other ground-based missiles. Tweet

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But Russia had no possible motive for attacking the airliner, and, indeed, the unfortunate event has only served as fodder for a Western press eager to declare Russia a new threat to the world. The Russian-speakers of eastern Ukraine who broke away from that country's new American-installed government simply do not have this missile in their arsenal, but Ukraine's government definitely does. These basic facts demonstrate the inappropriateness of the American press's early suggestions, but we know that in the disinformation business the first one out with even a remotely plausible story repeated loudly enough leaves a lasting impression, as witness the sad fact that polls show a sizeable proportion of Americans yet believe Saddam Hussein hid terrible weapons.

Despite the wreck's physical accessibility, there were substantial delays getting investigators to it as Ukraine's new government pressed attacks against its own eastern, Russian-speaking population. We cannot know, but the long delay may well have permitted sanitizing of the crash site. When able to access the site, experts found the flight recorders intact, but, to this writing, nothing from those recorders has been made public. I don't recall another case of a major crash when at least some information from an intact flight recorder was not made public quickly. After all, the principle behind such data is to discover problems for civilian aviation, enabling others to avoid them. The data, under international civil aviation agreements, is not anyone's private property, it is to be shared with all in a timely fashion.But we have heard nothing except a promise that the investigation's findings will eventually be made public. With such a suspicious delay, the possibility of tampering or destruction of data cannot be ruled out. And here, too, we have silence from the United States which would have the best supplementary data in the form of radar tracks and satellite images on a European event not far from Russia's border, an area of intense interest to America.

Why don't they produce them? Moreover, despite repeated requests from Russia and others, Ukraine's new government has released no data of its own, things we know it must have, such as tower-to-pilot recordings. Clearly, information is being deliberately suppressed, and when we hear in our press and from American-influenced governments about Russia's underhandedness, it is only a loud diversion from that disturbing fundamental fact.Do you see the television networks and newspapers in the United States calling for the immediate release of information? No, instead you see the suggestion, sometimes far more than a suggestion, that Russia is responsible for destroying the airliner, and this accusation is made with no evidence and without shame.

You might say we have a conspiracy of silence around an event of international importance. But why should that be so? Why is a country whose politicians regularly make speeches praising themselves about openness, democratic values, and fairness, found withholding critical information in two catastrophes of international importance?

In the first case over the Indian Ocean, it is almost certainly because the United States itself shot down the airliner, either mistakenly or deliberately as it may have been regarded as a potential threat to the secret base at Diego Garcia. Neither of these possibilities would be new experiences for America's military which, over the years, has been involved in destroying at least half a dozen civilian airliners (see my essay with its footnotes, "The Second Mystery Around Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370" found atChuckman's Words on Wordpress).

In the case of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17, destroyed over Ukraine, I believe the United States is hiding the fact that the Ukrainian armed forces shot it down. Why would the United States do this? We know, there being a great deal of good information in the public record, that the United States has made a huge investment in Ukraine over the past few years trying to destabilize an elected government, one friendly to Russia, and it succeeded when that government fled from a coup. Imagine America's embarrassment at the world's seeing its new proxy government, its supposed champion of eastern democracy, first misdirecting a civilian airliner, Flight MH17 having inexplicably been sent off course over a war zone, and then shooting it down with a fighter. Russian data, released to the public, shows a Ukrainian fighter was near the airliner, and an early photo of the wreckage leaked to the world clearly shows a large fuselage panel from the pilot's cabin riddled with holes as by heavy caliber ammunition from a fighter's canon.

That embarrassment would come on top of a series of embarrassments America's meddling in Ukraine's affairs has produced: over the general revolt of Russian-speaking Ukrainians against a new government openly unfriendly to their interests; over revelations that Nazi-like groups - and Ukraine has a number of them, notably the Right Sector - committed the sniping murders of hundreds of civilians from rooftops in Kiev in support of the original coup; over Ukraine's pathetic military failures on the ground with its soldiers displaying poor morale and worse leadership; over the world's seeing Ukraine bombing and rocketing its own citizens; over the failure of various cheap ruses such as using repainted surplus Hungarian T-72 tanks, fit only for scrap, to pass as invading Russian armor (while this ruse failed, it did for a while take in a lot of Western journalists, surely a reflection on the depth of their investigations); and, perhaps, most grating of all for the engineers of the whole murderous and destructive scheme, some deft statesmanship by Vladimir Putin snatched from their grasp important expected fruits of the enterprise.

In a number of instances the Ukrainian armed forces have demonstrated embarrassing incompetence, and reading between the lines of screaming propaganda and demands for this or that, appear actually to be losing the highly unequal fight. They do not fight with motivation for their new American-installed government, with its neo-Nazi auxiliaries, and against fellow citizens. I believe the shooting down of the airliner was one of many blunders, and the recordings from the black boxes, if revealed without doctoring, would unambiguously prove this to be the case. As would Ukraine's flight controller recordings, still held secret.The United States, despite embarrassments and setbacks, has worked to make other gains out of its dirty work in Ukraine.

It has been able to use almost comical assertions of a new Russian threat to strengthen its hold on NATO, an organization which has been obsolete for years and which serves only to thinly disguise American hegemony in Europe. Even now it pushes members for increased military spending to a minimum of two percent of GDP as the admission price for playing with the big boys in NATO. For America, the great appeal of increased expenditures would be a further subsidizing of its costly presence in Europe. NATO is held together by America's financial, economic, and diplomatic power, still great despite that country's having entered its relative decline in world influence. It can still grant rich favors and contracts or it can work away quietly against the interests of a dissenting state. A Europe with the many economic problems we see today is naturally fearful of summoning America's wrath Altogether, it's a vast and shameful enterprise the United States has launched, and while most of its unpleasant consequences have yet to be seen, it has certainly brought war and grief to a previously peaceful region. But the stark truth is that, in recent years, bringing war and grief seems to be a core mission of American foreign affairs.

John Chuckman


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Tatarewicz сентября "bringing war and grief seems to be a core mission of American foreign affairs."All done in the interests of Israel, firstly to detract from Israel's theft of Palestinian lands and secondly wars to neutralize nations opposing the taking of Arab property by armed force. And all done because the 500 making up the Deomocratic and Republican Congress compete for the vital organizational, funding and media efforts of American Jews in election campaigns

Ken Horst в сентября The "rebels" shot down low flying helicopters and military jets. The only ones killing civilians and attacking civilian places are the Jew Oligarchs from Kiev.

David Bradway Think about it for a minute! Flight 370 disappeared in the Indian Ocean somewhere without a trace. The most important thing to remember is not that the US has the most sophisticated radar in the world (which it does), but whether they can make a dollar out of using it somehow. Helping to find a bunch of orientals isn't in the cards for any real profit. Remember we are capitalists over here! As to MH17, we already know the answer to that based on the glaring silence from the British who have had the black box for over a month, and have said nothing. The fact that they are saying nothing is a confession that the Ukrainian military who control 26 out of 27 Buk SAM installations in the Ukraine shot it down obviously. It may have been a mistake on their part, but nevertheless, they shot it down, and are trying to find a way of tampering with the data to make it look like the Russians or the Separatists did it. Maybe, they are hoping people will just forget about it. ОтветитьСвернуть ответы⇓

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BEIJING, Sept. 5 (Xinhua) -- China on Friday urged Malaysia to strengthen communication, and pledged to provide assistance and coordination in searching the missing fight MH370 as Malaysian Supreme Head of State Abdul Halim Mu'adzam Shah visited.

China hoped Malaysia could continue to strengthen communication with China in coping with the incident, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang told Halim.

Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370 with 239 people on board, disappeared shortly after taking off from Kuala Lumpur on March 8 en-route to Beijing.

Halim thanked China for assistance in searching the flight and vowed to keep in close communication with the Chinese side.

With regard to the China-Malaysia relations and the ties between China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), Li said China and Malaysia are sincere friends and reciprocal partners. China was ready to consolidate their traditional friendship and expand bilateral cooperation.

He said China will steadily pursue the good-neighborly relationship with ASEAN and strengthen their reciprocal cooperation.

China will join with Malaysia,the first ASEAN nations to establish diplomatic ties with China and chair of ASEAN in next year, to promote China-ASEAN relations and East Asian cooperation, and to maintain regional peace, stability and development, the premier added.

Hailing the close ties between Malaysia and China, Halim said strengthening bilateral cooperation is beneficial for both countries.

Halim is paying a state visit to China at the invitation of Chinese President Xi Jinping from Sept. 3 to 8. Xi held talks with Halim on Thursday afternoon.

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