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Title: Scotland will be more at risk of a terrorist attack if it votes for independence, Cameron warns
Source: Daily Mail
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... oters-reject-independence.html
Published: Sep 5, 2014
Author: Tom McTague
Post Date: 2014-09-06 12:11:43 by X-15
Keywords: secede, resistance, NWO
Views: 743
Comments: 4

David Cameron today warned that Scotland would be more at risk from terrorism if it votes for independence.

The Prime Minister said the United Kingdom had the best security and intelligence services in the world to keep people safe.

He said the safety of staying together in a ‘very dangerous and insecure world’ was one of the ‘strongest arguments’ against separation.

Mr Cameron, speaking at the end of the two-day Nato conference in Wales, said: ‘I don’t think anyone can be in any doubt we live in a very dangerous and insecure world.

‘I would have thought one of the strongest arguments that those of us who want to see the United Kingdom stay together can make is in that dangerous world and insecure world of terrorist threats and other threats isn’t it better to be part of the United Kingdom?’

He said the UK ‘has a top five defence budget, that has some of the best security and intelligence services anywhere in the world, that is part of every single alliance that really matters in the world in terms of Nato, the G8, the G20 European Union, a permanent member of the Security Council of the UN’.

Mr Cameron added: ‘To have all those networks and abilities to work with allies to keep us safe, isn’t it better to have those things than to separate yourselves from them.

‘Those are some of the arguments we will be making in the weeks to come before this vital vote.’

Mr Cameron's remarks came after the former Prime Minister Gordon Brown vowed to lead a campaign for more powers for Scotland if it rejects independence in this month’s referendum.

The former prime minister, signalling his return to front line politics, said he would push for further devolution within weeks of the September 18 vote.

Mr Brown is among senior Labour figures being deployed in a final push by the party to prevent its supporters being won over by the Scottish National Party.

With polls suggesting a late swing towards the Yes camp, Mr Brown urged voters not to ‘abandon’ the huge value to Scotland of pooling resources with the rest of the UK in areas such as pensions and healthcare.

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Poster Comment:

"Boy, is Cameron desperate! Where was the "best security and intelligence services in the world" when Muslim terrorists bombed the London subway, killing 52 and wounding 700? And don't forget - it was the British government that imported those murderers and then ignited their anger by invading Iraq.

And speaking of importing Muslim terrorists, let's not overlook small-scale terror committed by Muslim immigrants, who not only recently beheaded an elderly lady, but managed to murder a British soldier in broad daylight. Anyone who doesn't believe Muslim immigrants are a hostile and alien population should ask one of the 1,400 girls brutalized and exploited by Pakistani immigrants in Rotherham.

Scots should vote for independence just to separate themselves from lunatics like David Cameron."

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Cameron's remarks are idiotic. Perhaps he addressed the national security theme because it worked well with the NATO Conference being held in Scotland.

Scotland will not be any less secure if it becomes an independent nation. Canada and Mexico don't need a large military because any security threat to them means a threat to the USA and the Big Dog would automatically defend the 2 pups sharing its borders. The same would be true for an independent Scotland. England would not tolerate a security threat to Scotland because it would represent a threat to England and England is the Big Dog militarily on the island.

IMHO, Scottish voters should focus more on whether it makes fiscal good sense to be independent and separate from England. The Scots are very Labour Party oriented ( which promotes lots of entitlements and building a bigger gov't bureaucracy).

Scotland is heavily reliant on 1 profitable industry - i.e. oil and gas. So yes Scotland would increase its profits from oil and gas but it would no longer get $ from England to support the costs of its social welfare entitlements and gov't bureaucracy. And should the price of oil and gas decrease, it would lead to less profits. Oil and gas retrieval from the North Sea involves higher costs than oil from the sands of Saudi Arabia - the profit margin is less for the former and is therefore more vulnerable to changes in market prices.

Also, English voters are very keen on getting out of the EU. Cameron has promised a vote on getting out of the EU in 2017 (if he wins the next general election). But Scottish voters are very pro staying in the EU. So if England pulls out in 2017, the Scots will need to re-apply to get accepted into the EU but the EU has stated it will not consider any new membership acceptances for the next 5 years at minimum. So where would that leave Scotland if England pulls out of the EU in 2017?

Moreover, in 02/13/14 the UK Chancellor, George Osborne, announced that a vote for Scottish independence would mean walking away from the pound. His statement came after the senior civil servant at the Treasury, Sir Nicholas Macpherson, said currency unions were "fraught with difficulty".

Without keeping the pound as its currency, Scotland would be in big trouble.

While gaining independence from Scotland has some positive attributes, I think overall it presents some strong negatives, mainly of a financial nature. Scots should vote with their heads, not with their hearts alone.

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