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Title: Do you believe in the Constitution?
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Published: Oct 1, 2014
Author: Frank Bates
Post Date: 2014-10-01 17:00:24 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 660
Comments: 24

With apparently nothing better to do, the Obama administration has created another group to spy on U.S. citizens. One of the targets will be people who engage in “conspiracy theories.” You’ll love it when you find out what one former administration official called a conspiracy theory.

Click here to find out.

Do you engage in “odd behaviors,” such as home-schooling your kids or stockpiling weapons and ammunition? If so, you’re probably being watched by this group. Click here to find out about the latest group that’s spying on those who stand by the U.S. Constitution.

To your freedom,

Frank Bates

PS If the links above aren’t working, you can copy this link into your browser: www.patriotheadquarters.c...their-way-or-the-highway/

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Do you believe in the Constitution?

The Constitution is not law because it provides no means of enforcement or penalty for violating it. A law is not valid unless it includes a means of enforcement and penalties. The Constitution is no more valid than a law against bank robbery that had no means of enforcement or penalty. Otherwise, without penalties bank robbery would thrive.

Laws are what congress passes for citizens which always has penalties and a means of enforcement. Fake laws are laws congress passes requiring congressmen to do or not do something which never have a means of enforcement or penalties.

DWornock  posted on  2014-10-07   16:55:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Constitution is not law because it provides no means of enforcement or penalty for violating it. A law is not valid unless it includes a means of enforcement and penalties.

The constitution is supposed to be the highest law of the land and our basic structure of foundation, to form all other laws around. The real problem is not with the constitution but with us the people and our failure to read and understand it in total coupled , with our lack of insistence that constitutional law be followed.

The current tyranny perpetuates this system of ignorance by not teaching children about constitution. By using unnecessary complicated wording in bill formation. Intimidation tactics against those that attempt to stand up for inalienable rights.

I myself find parts of the US constitution objectionable. Still, their is nothing wrong with that. I just need to convince enough representatives , senators, and US citizens to amend it. In it's amenability is its strength. People just need to be taught about it. For the record, I object to the electoral college system and I believe the whole structure of government could function better if Citizens themselves had some direct legislative control.

I mean what is the point of our representatives? To represent people en mass , the multitudes who can not take off work to discuss bills hundreds or thousands of miles away as well as to give a voice for the weaker, the illiterate, and the troubled. Do the representatives do their job effectively? Fuck no! Most of the time they do not even read what they sign. Further when constituents write them directly for whatever reason we are often ignored. IGNORED!

How can one call themselves a representative when they refuse to listen to those they are charged with representing? They can't. They're not. Their tyrants, bullies, feudal dictators that only even show up to the circus a third of the year.

And it will always be this way until the day we voters, those that waste our 15 minutes to do the pointless worthless thing, those of us that participate need a voice for ourselves.

SO To make a more perfect union two things need to happen after people realize the importance of knowing the damn document in the first place.

Those two things are~

1: Dissolve the electoral colleges in favor of a Direct popular vote for both president and vice president. Keep the rest as is with exception to number 2.

2: Appoint a house of the people with all the same legislative powers and responsibilities as the house of representatives. We don't even need to necessarily dissolve the H.O.R. but rather a house of the people could act as a fourth check and balance. Where all new law is run by the H.O.P first before it even goes to the H.O.R and Senate. We have the internet now and for people you know that do not, they can go hit any public library. We have a 90%+ literacy rate. The weak and the troubled could have their own voice and most importantly , Being ignored would be less of an issue. Our representatives may never change but with the base power starting with us we would be empowered ourselves.

We are at a new point in our society that we are educated enough and connected enough to rule in positive self determination.

Don't believe the Bureau of Land Management and the department of education need military grade guns and surplus? Vote that bill down before it hits house or senate. Are you in the minority that disagrees? Write house and senate to overrule the H.O.P decision with two thirds agreed consent in their two houses.

Believe solar roads would ultimately outweigh the initial cost and quite probably lead us into a new age of prosperity and world leadership thanks to unlimited electrical power? Vote that shindig right on through for the senate and H.O.R. to discuss,amend, and ratify. Disapprove of the rider they added on purposing guns for the B.L.M. and D.o.E. again? Vote that shit down , resend it back to them sans rider.

Do you think this is too complicated and that you would never have the time to do this? If you do then I would bet you also feel voting is too complicated and that you don't have the time to do that either. And thats just fine. Participating in government takes time and effort and energy. It is not for everyone. But for those that are willing to go the extra mile and give of themselves to build something better, for people like us, this kind of system would be ideal. Of course it would require people reading and knowing the constitution properly to function optimally but if you are one of those that choose to participate then you probably already know.

This nation was founded as a democratic representative republic. It is neither a democracy alone nor a republic alone. It is both via the representatives. Representatives that do not do their jobs but instead choose to oppress , extort, and even murder us. It is time for those among us willing, to represent ourselves and express our true will to the whole sum of our fellow citizenry.

And taxation? well, those bitches that only work 130 days a year for half a million dollars a year plus benefits might not like our input but I am certain you and I will really enjoy smooth properly built roads, a more effective justice system that doesn't beat the shit out of us for fun, public education system that teach kids to think instead of indoctrinate... We wouldn't even have to cut their posh budgets potentially. All of this money could come from scraping useless programs like the f-18 money pit. Still being built just so that rich welfare corporations building obsolete machines wont lose money. Fuck that, let them build drones and let the personal not needed collect severance and a new job. TAXATION! Half of Isrealis National Income is US tax dollars. I think they can get by with less. All they ever do is steal land and murder innocents. I say fuck em, let em buy their own bullets and bulldozers. TAX-FUCKING-Ation Did the TSA stop ebola or terrorists? Propose the bill to dissolve that bullshit.Think Freespeech zones are bullshit? Cite the first amendment and march outside that freespeech zone and propose the bill to nix that bullshit. Do lifetime supreme court appointments foster a dictatorial tyrannical government? Propose the bill that limits them to 25 year seats. With no re-election eligibility. And maybe a clause not allowing presidents to serve on such a high seat. I mean when you get shit like president Taft who later became a supreme court justice is unlikely that they would ever rule against anything they passed while in office. That is not a free and fair government ruled by the people in the name of liberty. No, thats a fucken tyranny.

And the only way to put an ultimate end to tyranny is by pulling ourselves up by our own bootstraps, knowing what we are talking about as well as what we need to do, and then participating in the exercise of that responsibility.

Only when we are free to represent ourselves will we truly be free. And that can be constitutionally achieved , MUST be constitutional achieved, this amendment (in some fair form) must be realized, for if it is not, then we will be doomed to repetitive revolutions against tyrannies. Only, by having a real voice in the legislation that will rule us all, will we ever truly be freed from the evils of tyranny.

Anything less will never do anything more but deliver us into more of what we have already seen in history.

The constitution works but only if you know it and insist upon adherence to it.

titorite  posted on  2014-10-10   21:07:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: titorite (#14) (Edited)

Lots of good suggestions and food for thought in your post. I'd like to see at least one embassy for the Constitution in every county of every State that could educate the public more about it and be staffed with diplomatic ambassadors, as well as provide Constitutionality reviews on all aspects of proposed legislations that would disqualify any which are not in full compliance. Another thing they might be able to do is review cases for Political Prisoner status which have been sentenced by rogue judiciaries in conflict with the Constitution. I think those embassies could be financed, maybe completely or nearly so, with a Constitutionally sound, alternative currency system and Treasury for that.

Personally, since vast distances are no longer the conferencing obstacle they once were, I'd prefer that all Congressional Representatives and Senators in D.C. be dismissed back to their home States so they wouldn't be so collectively accessible to the briberies of lobbyists and sundry others. Dissolving the electoral college in favor of a direct popular vote, though, is one point on which I'd have to object somewhat. Yes, the electoral college system has been corrupted and, since all States are to be considered as equals in America's Republic regardless of their population numbers, I too have difficulty with that concept as it is, rather than it being limited to one electoral vote only for each State as determined by the majority votes of their citizens/districts. I do believe the Founders intended the electoral college to be a more fair and reasonable method than majority rule alone and here are a couple of examples why that's so:

The Electoral College: How to Defend? - Tenth Amendment Center Blog
blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/11/the-electoral-college-how-to-defend/
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consider this. During the World Series, we don’t add up the total number of runs scored by each team over the course of the series, and then decide who won on that basis. We count up how many games each team won.

Thus:
Game 1: Red Sox 10, Mets 0
Game 2: Red Sox 15, Mets 1
Game 3: Red Sox 5, Mets 2
Game 4: Red Sox 1, Mets 2
Game 5: Red Sox 0, Mets 1
Game 6: Red Sox 2, Mets 3
Game 7: Red Sox 3, Mets 4

In this imaginary series the Red Sox scored 36 runs while the Mets scored only 13, yet everyone would acknowledge that the Mets won the series. Not a single sports fan would be running around demanding that we count the total number of runs instead, or insisting that the way we determine the World Series winner is sinister.

But I think this is the correct analogy with the electoral college. How many games — e.g., how many political societies, albeit weighted to some degree by population — did you win?

Also, the electoral college puts an upper bound on how much support you can earn from any one state. Even if your whole campaign is geared toward taxing the rest of the country and handing the money to California, you still can’t get more than 55 electoral votes from that state. So to some extent, the electoral college forces the candidate to run a national race more than would be necessary otherwise.

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-10-11 01:07:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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