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Title: Do you believe in the Constitution?
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Published: Oct 1, 2014
Author: Frank Bates
Post Date: 2014-10-01 17:00:24 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 312
Comments: 24

With apparently nothing better to do, the Obama administration has created another group to spy on U.S. citizens. One of the targets will be people who engage in “conspiracy theories.” You’ll love it when you find out what one former administration official called a conspiracy theory.

Click here to find out.

Do you engage in “odd behaviors,” such as home-schooling your kids or stockpiling weapons and ammunition? If so, you’re probably being watched by this group. Click here to find out about the latest group that’s spying on those who stand by the U.S. Constitution.

To your freedom,

Frank Bates

PS If the links above aren’t working, you can copy this link into your browser: www.patriotheadquarters.c...their-way-or-the-highway/

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Do you believe in the Constitution?

The Constitution is not law because it provides no means of enforcement or penalty for violating it. A law is not valid unless it includes a means of enforcement and penalties. The Constitution is no more valid than a law against bank robbery that had no means of enforcement or penalty. Otherwise, without penalties bank robbery would thrive.

Laws are what congress passes for citizens which always has penalties and a means of enforcement. Fake laws are laws congress passes requiring congressmen to do or not do something which never have a means of enforcement or penalties.

DWornock  posted on  2014-10-07   16:55:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: DWornock (#1)

The Constitution is not law because it provides no means of enforcement or penalty for violating it. A law is not valid unless it includes a means of enforcement and penalties. The Constitution is no more valid than a law against bank robbery that had no means of enforcement or penalty. Otherwise, without penalties bank robbery would thrive.

Laws are what congress passes for citizens which always has penalties and a means of enforcement. Fake laws are laws congress passes requiring congressmen to do or not do something which never have a means of enforcement or penalties.

Section 5 of the 14th Amendment is called the Enforcement Clause but the 2nd, 9th and 10th Amendments are most relevant. The Militias of the States are authorized by the Constitution to enforce it, as well as their State Constitutions, and they don't need to wait for permisson from any insurgents against the Constitution to do their job.

James Madison on How to Enforce the Constitution - Tenth Amendment Center: There’s nothing from the founders – anywhere – in which they tell us that our first response to extreme, repeated violations of the constitution and liberty is to vote the bums out, or sue the feds in federal court. Nothing. ... Jefferson told us that a “nullification is the rightful remedy.” And Madison told us that states are “duty-bound to interpose.”

The Blueprint: James Madison’s Advice - Tenth Amendment Center: Far too many Americans view any resistance to federal authority as rebellion. They need to recognize that the true rebels are elected officials, federal bureaucrats and functionaries in Washington D.C. who refuse to respect the constitutional limits of their power.

Militia Charged With Enforcement of State and U.S. Constitution: Remember that the US Constitution assigns the duties of enforcing the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution to the militia of the several states ... The Militia of each state is the constitutionally assigned body of enforcement.

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-10-09   18:19:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GreyLmist (#6)

You pointing out that voting and the militia are a means of enforcement may be correct. However, in modern times, both are worthless. The international bankers that own the Federal Reserve have use their right to counterfeit to buy up all mainstream media so, in effect, we only get to vote for those they approve of;, that is, those politicans that will vote as directed. Anyone else is ignored or labeled as a kook. And, we don't have a militia and, even if we did, they would be powerless against a paid army with all their high-tech modern weapons.

In my opinion, it is near hopeless. The bankers own the politicians, our colleges and public schools, and the media. Therefore, the indoctrination of the public is almost total. We are slaves to the all powerful bankers and very few realize it.

DWornock  posted on  2014-10-10   16:51:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: DWornock (#9) (Edited)

You pointing out that voting and the militia are a means of enforcement may be correct. However, in modern times, both are worthless. The international bankers that own the Federal Reserve have use their right to counterfeit to buy up all mainstream media so, in effect, we only get to vote for those they approve of;, that is, those politicans that will vote as directed. Anyone else is ignored or labeled as a kook. And, we don't have a militia and, even if we did, they would be powerless against a paid army with all their high-tech modern weapons.

In my opinion, it is near hopeless. The bankers own the politicians, our colleges and public schools, and the media. Therefore, the indoctrination of the public is almost total. We are slaves to the all powerful bankers and very few realize it.

America's Secret Army

if you are an adult American male between the ages of 17 and 45, you are part of the militia, whether you knew it or not, whether or not you want to be, and whether or not you are armed. Just so you know.

That is even mandated by Congressional law so, rebellious though they are against the Constitution, I don't think many would go on record as agreeing with your assessment that we don't have a Militia. We have 50 Militias -- each with two branches: organized and unorganized. America's real government is the Constitution, not any disloyalists/secessionists who've defected from it. The bankers' Slave Trade and all other counterfeit/foreign systems are invalid here. It's about as simple as that. Whether they have a willful, sycophantic majority with more firepower or not is beside the point and does nothing to change the fact that they are insurgents/outlaws.

Edited for punctuation.

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-10-10   21:26:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GreyLmist (#16)

if you are an adult American male between the ages of 17 and 45, you are part of the militia, whether you knew it or not, whether or not you want to be, and whether or not you are armed.

You can talk about theory of law and I will not disagree with your theory. However, the fact is, except in theory, we don't have a militia because there is no effective way to call it up. Certainly the president or governors will not because they prefer the military or national guard that they control completely.

Should there ever be a revolution, it will be the citizens whether or not in theory they are called the militia.

DWornock  posted on  2014-10-12   23:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: DWornock (#19) (Edited)

the fact is, except in theory, we don't have a militia because there is no effective way to call it up. Certainly the president or governors will not because they prefer the military or national guard that they control completely.

Should there ever be a revolution, it will be the citizens whether or not in theory they are called the militia.

All 50 Governors opposed a 2007 Congressional move to expand Presidential power over their State's National Guard units without their consent and that was repealed in 2008. Presidents are not supposed to call up the National Guards of the States for Federal service anyway except during Congressionally sanctioned national emergencies or war/invasion here (not abroad) or to protect and defend the Constitution from insurrectionists (including those in governmental office) and to enforce Constitutional laws. Neither are the State Militias (nor the portions of them that serve dually as National Guards too) supposed to be stalemated by no call up orders from a rogue Governor. An American Revolution lesson about that would be the arrest, removal from office and imprisonment of Benjamin Franklin's son, William, by the New Jersey Militia on orders of the Provincial Congress because he was a loyalist to the enemy crown that had appointed him as the royal colonial Governor there.

Edited 2nd and last sentence for clarity.

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-10-13   2:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GreyLmist, DWornock, Hobbits are Nice People, X-15, purplerose, titorite, BTP Holdings (#20)

(1). We are slaves to the all powerful bankers and very few realize it.

(2). The Constitution and its Amendments are not worthless. But surely those up on The Hill surely are.

#1 above is the very, very, simple truth.

#2 above is the veil (lie) obstructing the above truth.

Many Americans will cling to their childhood memories and early indoctrination because they're incapable of growing up and seeing reality even when it brutally slaps them in the face. Like the abused spouse that refuses to leave the abuser because he/she once said "I love you" modern day adult Americans shy away from revolution by hiding behind an idea (Constitution) that's not even being taught to their children.

If I were to compare the battered spouse to the Constitutionist I'd have to portray the constitutionist as near to death, bleeding profusely, and while handcuffed vehemently denying being abused.

[I use the word Constitutionist because I usually take my daily constitutional (shit) and even though it reminds of the constitution being a GD piece of asswipe, I don't want to offend the true believers.]

noone222  posted on  2014-10-13   5:56:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: noone222 (#21)

After the next revolution people are still gonna want a foundation of law and government. If not the constitution , what would be better? the articles of confederation? Something else entirely?

titorite  posted on  2014-10-13 13:40:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222, all (#21)

by hiding behind an idea (Constitution) that's not even being taught to their children.

There was a time that you had to take a test to become a citizen of the United States so you could know the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Not sure if they still do that.

But, they want all of the illegal aliens here because they are using them, and their labor, as collateral on the debt. If you doubt this, then you need to visit www.escape-tickets-irs- court.org/

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