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Title: Armageddon Battle Plan [Dead Sea War Scroll fragments - decades of war in the Middle East]
Source: YouTube, History Channel H2 and partial transcript
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VxTZQYQbJ4
Published: Oct 18, 2013
Author: EisenmanExpeditions
Post Date: 2014-10-13 05:41:26 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Armageddon, Battle Plan, Dead Sea War Scroll, Middle East
Views: 1285
Comments: 56

2.25 minute YouTube: Robert Eisenman in The Nostradamus Effect, Season 1 Episode 11: Armageddon Battle Plan [History Channel H2 -- no trace of info on that 1 hour program was found at the website but it was recently aired on October 6. Original air date: 12/08/09]

livedash.ark.com partial transcript of Nostradamus Effect - Armageddon Battle Plan

We call this theoretical convergence between doomsday prophecies and today's events the nostradamus effect.

The war scroll describes a future battle, an eschatological battle -- in other words, a battle that has to do with the end of days with kind of the final battle of good versus evil.

Some believe it is a blueprint for armageddon, of a 21st-CENTURY WAR TO END ALL Wars.

for some who believe in the prophecy, the ancient text predicts the exact spot where a third world war may erupt.

Mesopotamia is just a general term used to describe that area east of jerusalem today.

It would be all those countries in general that are east of israel.

Assyria, of course, is iraq.

And persia, of course, is modern-day iran.

So as you can see, these are all involved in latter-days events, and that happens to be exactly what's going on in our world right now.

Believers in prophecy suggest it's more than mere coincidence that the very lands mentioned in the war scroll -- mesopotamia, assyria, and persia -- are the same lands now engulfed in conflict.

in a funny way, we can say that the motivation of the people who wrote the war scroll are very, very similar to the motivation of people today who are expecting a battle of armageddon in the middle east at any moment.

And that can only be considered very, very dangerous because the belief systems we hold affects our behavior.

And if we believe something to be true and if we believe something is going to happen, the chances are we might actually cause it to do so.

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0) (Edited)

Ezekiel 38:1 And the word of þe Lord came vnto me, saying;

2 Sonne of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog the chiefe prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophecie against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chiefe prince of Meshech and Tubal.

4 And I will turne thee backe, and put hookes into thy chawes, and I will bring thee foorth, and all thine armie, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, euen a great company with bucklers & shields, all of them handling swordes.

5 Persia, Ethiopia and Libya with them; all of them with shield & helmet:

6 Gomer and all his bandes, the house of Togarmah of the North quarters, and all his bands, and many people with thee.

Gomer is Germany. Watch for Germany to join in the fun (as an opponent) !

11 And thou shalt say: I will goe vp to the land of vnwalled villages; I will goe to them that are at rest, that dwell safely all of them dwelling without walles, and hauing neither barres nor gates;

12 To take a spoile, and to take a praye, to turne thine hand vpon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and vpon the people that are gathered out of the nations which haue gotten cattel and goods, that dwell in the middest of the land.

Care to speculate ??? This prophecy cannot refer to modern Israel as a land of unwalled villages that's at rest ... one last thing, these people named enemies of Israel are sons of Japeth (Iaphet) which includes Ashkenaz - Ashkenazi "Jews" get their name from their ancestor Ashkenaz, a named enemy of Israel in prophecy.

[2 The sonnes of Iaphet: Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Iauan, & Tubal, and Meshech, & Tiras.

3 And the sonnes of Gomer: Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

So how can they be Israel and at the same time be the enemy of Israel ?

Bible whores (Zionazis) like John Hagee know this if they actually read the Bible.

noone222  posted on  2014-10-13   6:02:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#1) (Edited)

Wasn't sure which version was being quoted by you there (ex. Ethiopia is sometimes called Cush and Libya as Put/Phut) but it looks to be from hundreds of years ago, so I'm linking to Ezekiel 38 - KJV - Online Bible Study so as to try and get on the same page.

Gomer is Germany. Watch for Germany to join in the fun (as an opponent) !

[Ezekiel 38:11-12]

Care to speculate ??? This prophecy cannot refer to modern Israel as a land of unwalled villages that's at rest ... one last thing, these people named enemies of Israel are sons of Japeth (Iaphet) which includes Ashkenaz - Ashkenazi "Jews" get their name from their ancestor Ashkenaz, a named enemy of Israel in prophecy.

[ Genesis 10 - KJVA - Online Bible Study?]

So how can they be Israel and at the same time be the enemy of Israel ?

Bible whores (Zionazis) like John Hagee know this if they actually read the Bible.

First, I'd like to note that the Ezekiel 38 reference to "unwalled" villages is one of the few places that Strong's Concordance has no listing for a word but it's denoted elsewhere as "open country" and might be suggestive of bedouins. Wikipedia for Gomer says this:

The eponymous Gomer, "standing for the whole family," as the compilers of the Jewish Encyclopedia expressed it,[1] is also mentioned in Book of Ezekiel 38:6 as the ally of Gog, the chief of the land of Magog.
I think most all of the people that the Hebrews warred against in those chronicles were related to them somehow and even their 12 tribes killed and warred against each other, which is why there were two divided kingdoms of those allied with Judah (which means "Praise") and the majority of others who were allied against it. I'll try when I have the time to link several Wikipedia sites that I looked through while trying to research some of the names you posted. For now, I thought it interesting that there was a Cimmerian correlation to a culture/place called Koban and Kobani is currently in the War news now [Edit to add: although it isn't the same location, afaik. Edited also to include a link above to Strong's Concordance].

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there was a Cimmerian correlation to a culture/place called Koban and Kobani is currently in the War news now [Edit to add: although it isn't the same location, afaik.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_ Magog

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Hamon-Gog

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agag

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magog_(Bible)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenaz

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riphath

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togarmah

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table _of_Nations [Sons of Noah]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimmerians

Koban culture (Northern Caucasus, 12th to 4th centuries BC)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koban_culture

Many, such as Amjad Jaimoukha, believe the Koban culture was primarily Nakh.[1]

The most well-studied site was on the outskirts of Serzhen-Yurt (in modern Chechnya), which was a major center from around 11th century BCE to around the 7th century BCE.[1]

Amjad Jaimoukha argues that while all these cultures probably were made by people included among the genetic ancestors of the Northern Caucasian Nakh (i.e. Chechens and Ingush), it was either the Koban or Kharachoi culture that was the first culture made by the cultural and linguistic ancestors of the Chechens (meaning the Chechens first arrived in their homeland 3000–4000 years ago). However, many others disagree, holding the Chechens to have lived in their present day lands for over 10000 years.[2][3]

Jaimoukha postulates that the end of the Koban culture was brought about by Scythian invasions.[1]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakh_peoples [mentions the name Tamerlane that was reported concerning the alleged Boston Marathon Bombings]

13th–14th centuries Independence wars against Tatar-Mongol hordes and army of Tamerlane.

Edited for formatting and to replace the note I inserted about Scythians with this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-10-14   13:37:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#7) (Edited)

From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or simply Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכְּנַזִּים, Ashkenazi Hebrew pronunciation: [ÌaƒkYÈnazim], singular: [ÌaƒkYÈnazi], Modern Hebrew: [aƒkenaÈzim, aƒkenaÈzi]; also יְהוּדֵי אַשְׁכֲּנַז Y'hudey Ashkenaz, lit. "The Jews of Germany"), are a Jewish ethnic division which coalesced in the Holy Roman Empire around the turn of the first millennium.[12] The traditional language of Ashkenazi Jews consisted of various dialects of Yiddish.

Medieval rabbinic Ashkenaz

In rabbinic literature, the kingdom of Ashkenaz was first associated with the Scythian region, then later with the Slavic territories,[1] and, from the 11th century onwards, with northern Europe and Germany.[2] The region of Ashkenaz was centred on the Rhineland and the Palatinate (notably Worms and Speyer), in what is now the westernmost part of Germany. Its geographic extent did not coincide with the German Christian principalities of the time, and it included northern France.

In rabbinic literature from the 11th century, Ashkenaz was considered the ruler of a kingdom in the North and of the Northern and Germanic people.[cita

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#10. To: noone222 (#8)

In rabbinic literature, the kingdom of Ashkenaz was first associated with the Scythian region, then later with the Slavic territories,[1] and, from the 11th century onwards, with northern Europe and Germany.[2]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

Just want to copy that link on Scythians here for more study later because it mentions the Caucasus region (places such as Iran, Ukraine and Russia) and also the Serbs (ref. WWI origins).

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