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Title: Armageddon Battle Plan [Dead Sea War Scroll fragments - decades of war in the Middle East]
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YouTube, History Channel H2 and partial transcript
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Published: Oct 18, 2013
Author: EisenmanExpeditions
Post Date: 2014-10-13 05:41:26 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Armageddon, Battle Plan, Dead Sea War Scroll, Middle East
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2.25 minute YouTube: Robert Eisenman in The Nostradamus Effect, Season 1 Episode 11: Armageddon Battle Plan [History Channel H2 -- no trace of info on that 1 hour program was found at the website but it was recently aired on October 6. Original air date: 12/08/09] livedash.ark.com partial transcript of Nostradamus Effect - Armageddon Battle Plan The war scroll describes a future battle, an eschatological battle -- in other words, a battle that has to do with the end of days with kind of the final battle of good versus evil. Some believe it is a blueprint for armageddon, of a 21st-CENTURY WAR TO END ALL Wars. for some who believe in the prophecy, the ancient text predicts the exact spot where a third world war may erupt. Mesopotamia is just a general term used to describe that area east of jerusalem today. It would be all those countries in general that are east of israel. Assyria, of course, is iraq. And persia, of course, is modern-day iran. So as you can see, these are all involved in latter-days events, and that happens to be exactly what's going on in our world right now. Believers in prophecy suggest it's more than mere coincidence that the very lands mentioned in the war scroll -- mesopotamia, assyria, and persia -- are the same lands now engulfed in conflict. in a funny way, we can say that the motivation of the people who wrote the war scroll are very, very similar to the motivation of people today who are expecting a battle of armageddon in the middle east at any moment. And that can only be considered very, very dangerous because the belief systems we hold affects our behavior. And if we believe something to be true and if we believe something is going to happen, the chances are we might actually cause it to do so.We call this theoretical convergence between doomsday prophecies and today's events the nostradamus effect.
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I don't recall if it was him (Scott) or whether I read somewhere else that the original stone of scone had 12 gems that represented the 12 tribes embedded in it. Sometimes websites are taken down at the Internet Archive: Wayback Machine too but, if you can find a link path to an article of his, try copying it at the BROWSE HISTORY search box there. Might still be copies stored in those archives that could be accessed by clicking on the highlighted calendar dates, which are displayed per year for what's available. I haven't heard about the Stone of Scone block having any gems. The Middle Ages Scone Abbey Seal linked at #15 above depicts a kingly figure that could be seated there but it doesn't look to have gems on the side- edges pictured. The Stone-replica depictions elsewhere, though, do appear spotty like maybe the original did have some of those on it in places at some time, I don't know. The Honours of Scotland Wikipedia site says this about Scottish royal treasures that date back about 500 years ago (and perhaps much older than that) but doesn't mention the Stone as ever being jeweled: There are three primary elements of the Honours of Scotland: the Crown, the Sceptre, and the Sword of State. The Crown of Scotland in its present form dates from 1540 when James V ordered the Edinburgh goldsmith John Mosman to refashion the original crown. James wore it to his consort's coronation in the same year at the abbey church of Holyrood. The circlet at the base is made from Scottish gold and is encrusted with 22 gemstones and 20 precious stones taken from the former crown. Freshwater pearls from Scotland's rivers were also used. The crown weighs 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g). The crown was remodelled in 1540 for James V when the velvet and ermine bonnet were added to bring it to its present form. It is not known exactly when the crown was originally made, but it can be seen in its pre-1540 form in the famous portrait of James IV of Scotland in the Book of Hours that was created for his marriage to Margaret Tudor in 1503. The Sceptre of Scotland was a gift from Pope Alexander VI to King James IV in 1494, The Sword of State of Scotland was also a papal gift; Pope Julius II presented it to James IV in 1507 When the Stone of Scone was returned to Scotland in 1996, it also was placed in the Crown Room, alongside the Honours. This Wikipedia link interestingly mentions Dr. Gene Scott: Talk:Stone of Destiny There is a biblical connection with the known history of the stone and Ezekiel 21:27 where the stone is overthrown three times - Judah to Ireland, Ireland to Scotland, Scotland to England. Although, in 2004 the stone was moved to Scotland, Scotland did not need to physically seize the stone. I hadn't heard about most of that before either but this link at johnpratt.com, British Throne of David, has some paragraphs posted below that sound similar to the biblical and modern-day coronation similarities you noted at the end of #11 (and more, as well; Edit to add example: mentions fewer British crown gems than the Honours of Scotland info does above): "Another interesting factoid is that if you watch a video of Queen Elizabeth's coronation and read that of Solomon in the Bible - they are near identical ceremonies." It is interesting to note, however, that although the stone is not explicitly mentioned as part of the Biblical coronation ceremony, there seem to be references to it which have been overlooked. Consider the following accounts of when King Joash of Judah was anointed by the high priest Jehoiada: And when she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets (2 Kings 11:14) Then they brought out the king's son, and put upon him the crown, and gave him the testimony, and made him king. And Jehoiada and his sons anointed him, and said, God save the king. Now when Athaliah heard the noise of the people running and praising the king, she came to the people into the house of the LORD: And she looked, and, behold, the king stood at his pillar at the entering in, and the princes and the trumpets by the king: and all the people of the land rejoiced, and sounded with trumpets, also the singers with instruments of musick, and such as taught to sing praise. (2 Chronicles 23:11-13) He were are told that along with the usual parts of the coronation ceremony, that also the king stood at his pillar, as was the custom at coronation. What does that mean? Some Bible translations are more literal and render it, "The king stood on the pillar." [15] How can one stand on a pillar? It turns out the word translated pillar come from the root meaning "to stand" and can also refer to a "stand" or "platform." The meaning of pillar come from the idea that a pillar is standing up on its end. So the verses could also be saying that the king was coronated while standing on his stand, as was the custom. Was that stand or pillar the Stone of Destiny? If so, just what is it that makes this stone so special? It was called the Stone of Jacob. Stone of Jacob...Jacob's Pillow/Pillar...I had to chuckle thinking about someone with a Southern accent speaking of his Pillow stone and they'd still be right if it sounded like they were saying "Pillar" instead. lol No offense intended to those with Southerly accents. I believe it's ok if I think that's humorous, as almost every Southern TV newscaster/weatherperson I heard while there sounded more like a Northern Yankee than me anyway. P.S. Edited #15 to make a correction from William Wallace to Robert the Bruce regarding the spurs paragraph. Even though the factoid I thought was intriguing about those is sort of out of place here, it is just a few sentences so am posting it now for more clarity about that editing: Not much there to do with Ireland, though (such as you were talking about at #11 concerning Gene Scott re: the Scythian horse gear) except that Robert the Bruce had a younger brother, Edward, who became a High King of Ireland for a few years. Also, am not sure but I could have been wrong, too, at #15 when I doubted there that William Wallace was involved in the [11 July 1302] French and Flemish Battle of the Golden Spurs. It says at the Wikipedia link for William Wallace that he was thought to be in France at that time: By 1304 Wallace was back in Scotland, and involved in skirmishes This post edited for spelling and parenthesis insert about the British crown. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Some 25 years ago or so I studied the Bible with a small group led by a man that had been a pastor in several denominational churches and even a chaplain in the military. At the time I was attending these meetings the stone was resting under the coronation throne in England. He told us that before the return of Christ it would be returned to Scotland. (He was correct). (Gene Scott was of the common belief that the stone would remain in England and I even sent him a letter wherein I told him of my former pastor's statement about the stone being returned to Scotland prior to the return of Christ). There is legend that claims Jeremiah left the middle east with the "daughters" of Zedekiah (as his sons were murdered and he was blinded). One daughter was dropped off in Spain and the other traveled on to Ireland and wound up marrying the king there. (These daughters were the heirs to the throne as Zedekiah was the last king of Judah). It is said that Jeremiah brought the stone to Ireland. Many discount the notion that the tribes migrated into Europe always moving west. I don't claim to know but I wouldn't discount it even if the legends and lore aren't precise or accurate in every detail. Whatever the case there are many prophecies that can be understood by allowing some legend into the thought processes. asis.com/users/stag/jerrytea.html Something often overlooked is that there were 12 tribes and 10 have gone missing. Those claiming to be the remnant are imposters that also claim to be "the chosen." The fact is that these imposters haven't fulfilled even one of the prophecies made to Abraham. It is becoming more clear that the ancient Hebrews were sailors (as was Noah) and traveled the world. I believe we'll be surprised when it is discovered what actually occurred in history, and where the 10 "lost" tribes have been hiding in plain sight ! "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Genesis 49:10 [Full Chapter] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Am not only posting this link and the annotated excerpts as a background introduction of historical context regarding prior and potential commentaries here on the particular region(s) of a particular era in World History but for another example of some history we've been deprived of for who knows what reason, as mentioned previously in discussions above. [...] the French Princess [Isabella, daughter of King Philip IV/the Fair of France] was only 7 or 8 years old at the time [and not the Princess of Wales then]. [Incidently], the French Princess was not sweet and kindly, nicknamed the She Wolf of France, she was quite vicious [...] and launched her own invasion of Scotland with her son Edward III. [Coincidentally: the first wife of Robert the Bruce was also named Isabella. His younger brother, Edward, who became a High King of Ireland for a while, similarly might or might not have had a wife named Isabel/Isabelle. c. 1280 – 14 October 1318) [...] supported his brother in the struggle for the Scottish crown, then pursued his own claim in Ireland. He was proclaimed High King of Ireland, but was eventually defeated and killed in battle] In addition to the opening topic being about World scale war and also the noted apparent scrubbing of televised info about it, I think it's more than odd, too (especially since this is a Centennial year of the first World War), that a program-series titled Apocalypse: World War One/WWI is so scarce online and one episode particularly seems more sequestered than some of the others, which has perspectives on the Middle East theatre of war then and Palestine issues like British Lawerence of Arabia's machinations of betrayal and manipulations. There are a few video samplings available where the surprisingly modernesque footage - - (i.e. not much that is speeded up with jerky motions of people and machinery, such as one might except comparatively with that time period's usual quality-level technologically in Hollywood silent-films) -- can be seen at Youtube, for instance, if unable to view any of it on TV. I did see some of it televised recently and, iirc, the episode regarding the Middle East was titled "Rage". I haven't found even a text description on the web about any of that and this short video about Passchendaele (from the "Deliverance" episode?, which shows Jesus on the Cross at 1:07 and reminds me somewhat of scenes in the Lee Marvin movie, "The Big Red One") is in French without even English subtitles: This pic from the TVO website advertising the series last Summer has the titles of the episodes listed there at the bottom of it: Fury*Fear*Hell*Rage*Deliverance So, am recommending all 5 of those 1-hour programs for viewing, if possible, with emphasis on the Middle East installment that I think is the one called "Rage". Read somewhere that the series might be scheduled for the public's access again [Edit to add: perhaps on the Smithsonian Channel or NatGeo?] near the end of this month and/or the 1st half of November. [Edit to add that the "sequel", "Apocalypse: The Second World War"/WWII, is not so strangely secretive and difficult to find and it's not even a Centennial year for that.] Various edits for formatting, readability and clarification details + to include these two links for posts with already cited references on Scotland's history that can be searched: #15 and #17 Also to include these Wikipedia links that weren't posted yet: Philip IV of France/Phiip the Fair: [reportedly] annihilated the order of the Knights Templar, etc. John de Menteith: He was born to Mary, Countess of Menteith and her husband Walter "Bailloch" Stewart, Earl of Menteith jure uxoris. He and his older brother, Alexander, Earl of Menteith, replaced their paternal Stewart surname in favour of Menteith, which earned him the nickname Fause (False) Menteith. [...] Tradition has it that Menteith betrayed Sir William Wallace to English soldiers, which led to Wallace's capture and torturous execution and his later nickname Fause Menteith ("Menteith the treacherous"). John III Comyn, Lord of Badenoch: also known simply as the Red Comyn [...] The Wars of Scottish Independence [...] began in a clash between the Bruces and Comyns. [...] His mother was Eleanor Balliol, eldest daughter of John I de Balliol, father of King John Balliol. The Red Comyn might thus be said to have combined two lines of royal descent, Gaelic and Norman. He had, moreover, links with the royal house of England: in the early 1290s he married Joan de Valence, daughter of William de Valence, 1st Earl of Pembroke, an uncle of Edward I. Earl of Menteith: The Stuart-Menteth Baronetcy, of Closeburn in the County of Dumfries and Mansfield in the County of Ayr, is a title in the Baronetage of the United Kingdom. It was created on 11 August 1838 for Charles Stuart-Menteth. The Stuart-Menteth family traces its descent from Walter Comyn (third son of Walter Comyn, Justiciar of Scotia), who in 1258 married Isabella, Countess of Menteith (or Menteth).} ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Brave Heart FULL MOVIE http://megashare.info/watch-braveheart-online-TmpFMk1nPT0
Thank you for posting that movie for us, Itis. :) I hope you won't mind my asking but would you be able to downsize the screen's width a bit through the edit option while that's still open for adjustments? The text is running to the right of the post boxes now on my PC and, although I don't much have to scroll right to read, as it is -- if I change the zoom setting for my screen display, I'm thinking other readers might not be able to do that or might not want to tax their vision to read smaller print. TIA, if so.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Coolness :) Thanks much. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Thanks for those biblical geneology links. Will probably be back later this evening to study those and discuss your other recent posts.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I had you on BOZO ... but seein hows you put my all time favorite movie up ... maybe ya ain't gotta be on BOZO ... Thanks !
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
The Declaration of Arbroath 1320 — English Translation To the most Holy Father and Lord in Christ, the Lord John, by divine providence Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Roman and Universal Church, his humble and devout sons Duncan, Earl of Fife, Thomas Randolph, Earl of Moray, Lord of Man and of Annandale, Patrick Dunbar, Earl of March, Malise, Earl of Strathearn, Malcolm, Earl of Lennox, William, Earl of Ross, Magnus, Earl of Caithness and Orkney, and William, Earl of Sutherland; Walter, Steward of Scotland, William Soules, Butler of Scotland, James, Lord of Douglas, Roger Mowbray, David, Lord of Brechin, David Graham, Ingram Umfraville, John Menteith, guardian of the earldom of Menteith, Alexander Fraser, Gilbert Hay, Constable of Scotland, Robert Keith, Marischal of Scotland, Henry St Clair, John Graham, David Lindsay, William Oliphant, Patrick Graham, John Fenton, William Abernethy, David Wemyss, William Mushet, Fergus of Ardrossan, Eustace Maxwell, William Ramsay, William Mowat, Alan Murray, Donald Campbell, John Cameron, Reginald Cheyne, Alexander Seton, Andrew Leslie, and Alexander Straiton, and the other barons and freeholders and the whole community of the realm of Scotland send all manner of filial reverence, with devout kisses of his blessed feet. Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner. The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory enough from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles — by calling, though second or third in rank — the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter's brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron forever. The Most Holy Fathers your predecessors gave careful heed to these things and bestowed many favours and numerous privileges on this same kingdom and people, as being the special charge of the Blessed Peter's brother. Thus our nation under their protection did indeed live in freedom and peace up to the time when that mighty prince the King of the English, Edward, the father of the one who reigns today, when our kingdom had no head and our people harboured no malice or treachery and were then unused to wars or invasions, came in the guise of a friend and ally to harass them as an enemy. The deeds of cruelty, massacre, violence, pillage, arson, imprisoning prelates, burning down monasteries, robbing and killing monks and nuns, and yet other outrages without number which he committed against our people, sparing neither age nor sex, religion nor rank, no one could describe nor fully imagine unless he had seen them with his own eyes. But from these countless evils we have been set free, by the help of Him Who though He afflicts yet heals and restores, by our most tireless Prince, King and Lord, the Lord Robert. He, that his people and his heritage might be delivered out of the hands of our enemies, met toil and fatigue, hunger and peril, like another Macabaeus or Joshua and bore them cheerfully. Him, too, divine providence, his right of succession according to or laws and customs which we shall maintain to the death, and the due consent and assent of us all have made our Prince and King. To him, as to the man by whom salvation has been wrought unto our people, we are bound both by law and by his merits that our freedom may be still maintained, and by him, come what may, we mean to stand. Yet if he should give up what he has begun, and agree to make us or our kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own rights and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our King; for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. Therefore it is, Reverend Father and Lord, that we beseech your Holiness with our most earnest prayers and suppliant hearts, inasmuch as you will in your sincerity and goodness consider all this, that, since with Him Whose vice-gerent on earth you are there is neither weighing nor distinction of Jew and Greek, Scotsman or Englishman, you will look with the eyes of a father on the troubles and privation brought by the English upon us and upon the Church of God. May it please you to admonish and exhort the King of the English, who ought to be satisfied with what belongs to him since England used once to be enough for seven kings or more, to leave us Scots in peace, who live in this poor little Scotland, beyond which there is no dwelling-place at all, and covet nothing but our own. We are sincerely willing to do anything for him, having regard to our condition, that we can, to win peace for ourselves. This truly concerns you, Holy Father, since you see the savagery of the heathen raging against the Christians, as the sins of Christians have indeed deserved, and the frontiers of Christendom being pressed inward every day; and how much it will tarnish your Holiness's memory if (which God forbid) the Church suffers eclipse or scandal in any branch of it during your time, you must perceive. Then rouse the Christian princes who for false reasons pretend that they cannot go to help of the Holy Land because of wars they have on hand with their neighbours. The real reason that prevents them is that in making war on their smaller neighbours they find quicker profit and weaker resistance. But how cheerfully our Lord the King and we too would go there if the King of the English would leave us in peace, He from Whom nothing is hidden well knows; and we profess and declare it to you as the Vicar of Christ and to all Christendom. But if your Holiness puts too much faith in the tales the English tell and will not give sincere belief to all this, nor refrain from favouring them to our prejudice, then the slaughter of bodies, the perdition of souls, and all the other misfortunes that will follow, inflicted by them on us and by us on them, will, we believe, be surely laid by the Most High to your charge. To conclude, we are and shall ever be, as far as duty calls us, ready to do your will in all things, as obedient sons to you as His Vicar; and to Him as the Supreme King and Judge we commit the maintenance of our cause, casting our cares upon Him and firmly trusting that He will inspire us with courage and bring our enemies to nought. May the Most High preserve you to his Holy Church in holiness and health and grant you length of days. Given at the monastery of Arbroath in Scotland on the sixth day of the month of April in the year of grace thirteen hundred and twenty and the fifteenth year of the reign of our King aforesaid. Endorsed: Letter directed to our Lord the Supreme Pontiff by the community of Scotland. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Scone Palace: In the Middle Ages the land was the site of a major Augustinian abbey, Scone Abbey, nothing of which now remains above ground level except detached architectural fragments. This was the crowning-place of the Kings of the Scots (on the Stone of Destiny) down to Alexander III. The place of coronation was called Caislean Credi, 'Hill of Credulity', which survives as the present Moot Hill. Edward I of England carried off the Stone of Scone to Westminster Abbey in 1296 Alexander III: became king at the age of seven, inaugurated at Scone on 13 July 1249. The years of his minority featured an embittered struggle for the control of affairs between two rival parties, the one led by Walter Comyn, Earl of Menteith, the other by Alan Durward, Justiciar of Scotia. [He reigned until March 1286 when William Wallace was about 16 years old]. Alexander, Earl of Menteith: was the eldest son and heir of Walter Bailloch Stewart and Mary I, Countess of Menteith [...]. The first mention of him in records is with his brother John de Menteith in a compact dated on 20 September 1286, at Turnberry, Carrick, between Bruce and the Stewarts. In another writ, of uncertain date, granted by their father to Kilwinning Abbey, he and his brother are styled Alexander and John de Menteith. [...] Prior to succeeding his father, Alexander was at Norham in 1291, and was among those who swore fealty to Edward I. Alexander was with his father at the Battle of Dunbar on 27 April 1296, and fled to Dunbar Castle where he and others were taken prisoner and committed to the Tower. His detention was not long, however, and he was liberated after promising to serve the English King, meeting with him at Elgin 27 July 1296. He repeated this promise, and swore fealty at Berwick a month later, on 28 August William Wallace: c. 1270 – 23 August 1305 [...] When Wallace was growing up, King Alexander III ruled Scotland. His reign had seen a period of peace and economic stability. On 19 March 1286, however, Alexander died after falling from his horse. [...] The lack of a clear heir led to a period known as the "Great Cause", with several families laying claim to the throne. With Scotland threatening to descend into civil war, King Edward I of England was invited in by the Scottish nobility to arbitrate. Before the process could begin, he insisted that all of the contenders recognise him as Lord Paramount of Scotland. In early November 1292, at a great feudal court held in the castle at Berwick-upon-Tweed, judgement was given in favour of John Balliol having the strongest claim in law. John renounced his homage [to the King of England] in March 1296 and by the end of the month Edward stormed Berwick-upon-Tweed, sacking the then-Scottish border town. [After the decisive victory for the Scots years later at the June 23-24 Battle of Bannockburn in 1314, Robert the Bruce had undisputed military control of Scotland except for the Royal Burgh of Berwick-upon-Tweed. Edit to add: That final English stronghold was captured by the Scots in 1318.] In April [1296], the Scots were defeated at the Battle of Dunbar in East Lothian and by July, Edward had forced John to abdicate. Stone of Scone: In 1296 the Stone was captured by Edward I as spoils of war and taken to Westminster Abbey John III Comyn, Lord of Badenoch: was Guardian of Scotland during the Second Interregnum 1296–1306. [In February 1304, Comyn conditionally surrendered to England's King Edward I/Longshanks who] accepted, with notable exceptions. Edward maintained his particular hatred for one former Guardian. Comyn was thus obliged to adhere to a condition in which he and other named individuals were to "capture Sir William Wallace and hand him over to the king, who will watch to see how each of them conducts himself so that he can do most favour to whoever shall capture Wallace..." Action at Lanark: May 1297. [...] According to [poetic legend, William] Wallace was seeking revenge for the killing by Heselrig of his wife, Marion Braidfute of Lamington. However, there is little evidence for her existence. [...] Fictionalised versions of this incident have appeared in various accounts of the Wallace's life, notably in the 1995 film Braveheart, where his wife was called Murron MacClannough. Wallace then continued with his rebellion, which culminated in his victory at the Battle of Stirling Bridge four months later. Raid of Scone: After the Action at Lanark, William Wallace joined forces with William Douglas the Hardy and led a raid on the city of Scone. He and his men forced William Ormesby, the justiciar to flee, and took control. William Wallace: The first act definitely known to have been carried out by Wallace was his assassination of William de Heselrig, the English High Sheriff of Lanark, in May 1297. He then joined with William the Hardy, Lord of Douglas, and they carried out the raid of Scone. On 11 September 1297, an army jointly led by Wallace and Andrew Moray won the Battle of Stirling Bridge. Although vastly outnumbered, the Scottish army routed the English army. After the battle, Moray and Wallace assumed the title of Guardians of the Kingdom of Scotland on behalf of King John Balliol. Around November 1297, Wallace led a large-scale raid into northern England, through Northumberland and Cumberland. In a ceremony in Selkirk Abbey towards the end of the year, Wallace was knighted. In April 1298, Edward ordered a second invasion of Scotland [...] but failed to bring William Wallace to combat In July, while planning a return to Edinburgh for supplies, Edward received intelligence that the Scots were encamped nearby at Falkirk, and he moved quickly to engage them in the pitched battle he had long hoped for. The Scots lost many men, including John de Graham. Wallace escaped, though his military reputation suffered badly. By September 1298, Wallace resigned as Guardian of Scotland in favour of Robert the Bruce, Earl of Carrick and future king, and [astonishingly, the Falkirk Deserter] John III Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, King John Balliol's nephew [and also a relative of "Longshanks"/King Edward I of England. Comyn's prestige increased when he and Sir Simon Fraser defeated an English force at the Battle of Roslin in February 1303. Edit: Comyn was reportedly later killed by Robert the Bruce in February 1306 but that is sometimes disputed.] Details of Wallace's activities after this are vague, but there is some evidence that he left on a mission to the court of King Philip IV of France to plead the case for assistance in the Scottish struggle for independence. Wallace evaded capture by the English until 5 August 1305 when [the Stewart/Comyner] John de Menteith, a Scottish knight loyal to Edward, turned Wallace over to English soldiers at Robroyston near Glasgow. Wallace was transported to London, lodged in the house of William de Leyrer, then taken to Westminster Hall He was crowned with a garland of oak to suggest he was the king of outlaws. He responded to the treason charge, "I could not be a traitor to Edward, for I was never his subject." [His head] was placed on a pike atop London Bridge. It was later joined by the heads of the brothers, John and Simon Fraser. His limbs were displayed, separately, in Newcastle upon Tyne, Berwick-upon-Tweed, Stirling, and Perth [Scone]. Newcastle upon Tyne: The Scots king William the Lion was imprisoned in Newcastle in 1174, and Edward I brought the Stone of Scone and William Wallace south through the town. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Post #11: According to Hector Boece, the stone was first kept in the lost city of Evonium, in the west of Scotland.[citation needed] Stone of Destiny 'from Ayrshire, not Perthshire' Published 17/12/2010 14:17 The Stone of Destiny, now in Edinburgh Castle, is rumoured to have been kept in the ancient Scottish city of Evonium And now, new evidence has emerged that the lost Scottish city of Evonium, rumoured for centuries to be the Argyll village of Dunstaffnage, may actually have been the less picturesque modern-day town of Irvine. Scots historian AJ Morton has uncovered research suggesting Evonium, described by one chronicler from the Middle Ages as a place where 40 kings were crowned and reigned, and believed by some to be the country's ancient capital, was sited in the North Ayrshire town. Dunstaffnage, near Oban, was thought to have been the site of the city because of its proximity to the important religious island of Iona. But it is the existence of Evonium, a "lost city" that was first suggested in the 15th century by the Scottish historian and philosopher Hector Boece, the first principal of King's College in Aberdeen, that is most intruiging. Morton, a specialist in west coast religious history, claims Irvine was an important administrative centre in the Middle Ages and that many of the country's ancient rulers came from or lived in the area. John Balliol, the Royal Lord of Cunninghame and the last Scottish king to be crowned on the Stone before it was seized and taken to England in 1296, was a hereditary overlord of the town. Morton has concluded that Evonium would have been more likely to be in Ayrshire, closer to the Irish coast, rather than in a remote part of Argyll, suggesting that the town's name, and the fact that it was once known as the capital of Cunninghame, might itself be a clue. "The ancient capital of Cunninghame (thought by some to mean "king's home"] was known historically as Erewyn, Ervin, Erevine," he said. "Given its importance, it is almost unreasonable that Irvine has been overlooked in all previous attempts to identify the legendary city of Evonium." He points out that in the early medieval era Irvine was of huge strategic importance in the country. "The most intriguing evidence concerns Irvine's links with early monarchs and officers of post-Norman Scotland," said Morton. Balliol, Robert Bruce and the first Stewarts had a vested interest in the region. John Balliol was hereditary overlord of Irvine when he was crowned on the Stone in 1292." Further evidence of the importance of the area lies in the existence of the Castle of Irvine, first mentioned in writings in 1191, as well as Bruce's determination to seize the lands around Irvine after 1296. Morton also pointed out that King Robert III, who ruled from 1390 to 1406, issued at least seven royal charters from various bases in the Irvine area. Irvine is well recognised as an ancient military capital, and as the former headquarters of the Lord High Constable of Scotland, Hugh de Morville. However, in recent times it has become known as a "poverty hotspot", with figures released this year showing that North Ayrshire had one of the highest deprivation levels in Scotland, with one in four households living in poverty. Meanwhile, Morton, who wrote The Weight of Kilwinning, which investigates the significance of a 12th-century monastery in the town, goes even further by arguing that the Stone of Destiny could have been carved from Ayrshire rock in the first place. Evonium - Wikipedia Evonium is a purported lost city in Scotland first described by Hector Boece in his 16th-century Scotorum Historiae. According to Boece, it hosted the coronation of forty kings and was located in the Lochaber area. Boece's translator John Bellenden substituted Dunstaffnage for Evonium which led to the belief that the Stone of Scone was once kept at Dunstaffnage Castle. Writer A. J. Morton has suggested that if Evonium actually existed it could have been located at Irvine, Ayrshire[dubious – discuss], known historically as Erewyn, Ervin or Erevine. Brigadoon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary Origin of BRIGADOON: [...] village in the musical Brigadoon (1947) by A. J. Lerner and F. Loewe First Known Use: 1968 ??? 1947 musical but first known use of the word more than 20 years later in 1968? That can't be right...can it? Sounds like that musical was co-written by time travelers from the Future or something. Edited Post#, last paragraph and formatting + spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The Declaration of Arbroath 1320 — English Translation Given at the monastery of Arbroath in Scotland on the sixth day of the month of April in the year of grace thirteen hundred and twenty and the fifteenth year of the reign of our King aforesaid. Scythians, eh? I didn't know that before. Thanks for posting the text. :) It's a very great work, imo, and this is one of the statements I like most: Declaration of Arbroath - Wikipedia [Some holes in the text at the Pic there] Generally believed to have been written in the Arbroath Abbey by Bernard of Kilwinning, then Chancellor of Scotland and Abbot of Arbroath, and sealed by fifty-one magnates and nobles, The Declaration was part of a broader diplomatic campaign which sought to assert Scotland's position as an independent kingdom, rather than being a feudal land controlled by England's Norman kings, as well as lift the excommunication of Robert the Bruce. The Pope had recognised Edward I of England's claim to overlordship of Scotland in 1305 and Bruce was excommunicated by the Pope for murdering [said King Edward I of England, Edit to add: in a letter to the Pope] John Comyn [his relative] before the altar in Greyfriars Church in Dumfries in 1306. A justification had to be given for the rejection of King John [Balliol] in whose name William Wallace and Andrew de Moray had rebelled in 1297. The reason given in the Declaration is that Bruce was able to defend Scotland from English aggression whereas, by implication, King John could not. Whatever the true motive, the idea of a contract between King and people was advanced to the Pope as [a reason] for Bruce's coronation whilst John de Balliol still lived in Papal custody The Pope heeded the arguments contained in the Declaration, influenced by the offer of support from the Scots for his long-desired crusade if they no longer had to fear English invasion. He exhorted Edward II in a letter to make peace with the Scots, but the following year was again persuaded by the English to take their side and issued six bulls to that effect. It was only in October 1328, after a short-lived peace treaty between Scotland and England, the Treaty of Edinburgh-Northampton (which renounced all English claims to Scotland and was signed by the new English king, Edward III, on 1 March 1328), that the interdict [exclusion from certain rites of the Church] on Scotland and the excommunication of its king were finally removed. The original copy of the Declaration that was sent to Avignon is lost. A copy of the Declaration survives among Scotland's state papers, held by the National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh. The most widely known English language translation was made by Sir James Fergusson, formerly Keeper of the Records of Scotland, from text that he reconstructed using this extant copy and early copies of the original draft. Arbroath cross-reference at Post #11: A major search for the stone [of Scone/Destiny] was ordered by the British Government, but proved unsuccessful. The custodians left the Stone on the altar of Arbroath Abbey on 11 April 1951, in the safekeeping of the Church of Scotland. Edited to remove a comment and add one. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
While there is much room for debate and even revision on the subject we are discussing, I am of the opinion that history has been manipulated to a large degree in order to grant some groups advantage and to hide truths that would change perspectives regarding ethnicity. My interest in the so-called Lost Tribes of Israel has been rekindled. Political correctness has made all of us less likely to even compare the historical facts as they relate to ethnic differences that have NEVER changed. But far more importantly to me is the truth. Gene Scott remarked that while he wasn't a believer in the British-Israel theology "he wasn't going to throw the baby out with the bath water." That is my approach to this most interesting study. Modern day preachers avoid teachings on much of the Bible because it might alienate some from their congregation and therefore decrease their wealth. Others are inclined to refer only to New Testament teachings and rely upon certain passages to justify their belief systems. My goal is not debate but learning the history of the Ten Lost Tribes. One thing that I find of tremendous importance is that those calling themselves Jews today are for the most part NOT ISRAELITE descendants (not the "Chosen" as commonly believed and TAUGHT, but are in truth imposters). It is my opinion that the great majority of modern Christianity have been deceived and cannot understand their scriptures because the very basis of their faith have been undermined by lies and omissions. [Ask yourself why we are not taught about the Ashkenazi Jews in school ?] Again, my interest is not defamation of Jews. My intent is to learn the majesty of God. The Israelites (10 Tribes) have escaped the history books for thousands of years but it is prophesied that they will once again know who they are ... and I believe that is taking place gradually ... and it is THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD" ! As a side note: When Gene Scott was alive I tried to get him to contact Mel Gibson for the purpose of making a movie about this history. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Shiloh (biblical city) - Wikipedia Shiloh was an ancient city mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. Its site is at modern Khirbet Seilun, south of ancient Tirzah and 10 miles (16 km) north of the Israeli settlement of Beth El in the West Bank. It was the capital of Israel before the first Temple was built in Jerusalem. [Shiloh] could be a figure, perhaps the Messiah, or a place The meaning of the word "Shiloh" is unclear. Sometimes it is translated as the Messianic title that means He Whose It Is or as Pacific, Pacificator or Tranquility that refers to the Samaritan Pentateuch. However the name of Shiloh the town is derived of (shala) and may be translated as Tranquility Town (or Fair Haven or Pleasantville). Shiloh is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as an assembly place [the Tent of Meeting] for the people of Israel. [...] In this sense, the Tent of Meeting is to be distinguished from the "Dwelling Place"—the Mishkan—often translated "Tabernacle." Jeremiah used the example of Shiloh to warn the inhabitants of Judah and Jerusalem what Yahweh Elohim will do to the "place where I caused my name to dwell," warning them that their holy city, Jerusalem, like Shiloh, could fall under divine judgment. St. Jerome, in his letter to Paula and Eustochius, dated about 392–393, writes: "With Christ at our side we shall pass through Shiloh and Bethel" (Ep.46,13, PL 22, 492). Born Fighting - Smithsonian Channel In this landmark two-part series, Senator Jim Webb tells the largely forgotten story of the Scots-Irish, a people whose values, culture and fighting spirit profoundly shaped America. Follow Senator Webb as he tracks their heroes and legends from William Wallace to Andrew Jackson, the first of 17 Scots-Irish U.S. Presidents. Their Bible-thumping, battle-scarred march for independence took them from Scotland to Northern Ireland and finally the open expanses of early America, where they would leave an indelible mark on the national character. 1 minute video: Born Fighting - Trailer Battle of Shiloh - Wikipedia The Battle of Shiloh, also known as the Battle of Pittsburg Landing, was a major battle in the Western Theater of the American Civil War, fought April 6– 7, 1862, in southwestern Tennessee. List of American Civil War battles - Wikipedia Civil War Battles - historynet.com (Noting some biblical sounding names from the first battles onward as if targeted by ritualists less for Military logistical reasons than as places of sacrifice to a "god" or "gods" of War: Philippi... Big Bethel... Carthage [Tarshish]... Manassas [Manasseh]... Shiloh... Corinth... among others) Edited for formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Collection of posted reference materials for study and discussion: Post #31 | video: Israel's Lost Empires -- The Lost Ten Tribes + commentary Post #18 | JEREMIAH AND TEA TEPHI + commentary Post #24 | Tamar Tephi, Princess Of Judah Post #27 | The Declaration of Arbroath 1320 — English Translation [Independence and Freedom prioritized above fealty to royal lineages] ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Long ago, I used to watch a Sunday morning program with a preacher who was a rotund, little old guy with glasses whose name I don't recall now or why I liked listening to it then or a single thing he ever said. Many years later at another forum, I recognized his name in discussions of British Israelism that were swirling there around the time that The Da Vinci Code premiered, iirc. I posted some comments but I don't think very often. One I remember was as an attempt to caution that Jesus was being name-dropped to advance "holier than thou" doctrines of men and an earthly kingdom of their making -- not because Jesus was considered to be Christ but like an Interreligious Public Relations railroad-switch device routing matrilineally back to David and the earlier Patriarchs. It's not that I don't think there's anything of substance at all to legends of old like Tea Tephi and such. I actually do to some extent but that reminds me more than somewhat of the Book of Esther. And, there again, like The Da Vinci Code, I think it's being used like a railroad-switch back to David and the earlier Patriarchs and scriptural promises to them because, somewhere down the line, descendecy stopped being traced through the fathers in Judaism. It all reminds me too of "land claims" across the earth to build such a kingdom -- sort of like the "America Unearthed" show where a geologist, supposedly, calls what looks hoaxy to me markers from the Templars and whatnot. Yet, in one program about a huge rock formation in Texas that's around 20 miles long and looks like quarried blocks he shrugs off as a natural occurence -- because it didn't much suit his "land claim" agenda, I suppose. It's not that I'm convinced it was built by giants but his "land claim" agenda reminds me of the Palestine issues where Israelis act as if the borders are wherever they decide to go next. I'm ok with discussing the British Israelism dogmas here and I thought the Scythian video was interesting, although confusing and rather agenda driven too. There are a lot of things I thought about commenting on but didn't take notes. For instance, as a linguist, I think he went out of his way to avoid making any connection to the tribe of Asher re: Assyrians/Asshur/Ashur, and to cast Russia as not among the tribes, and I don't think, as he does, that there was a transcription error in the Book of Revelation. Anyway, that's the gist of my views on the topic at this point. Post #38: Collection of posted reference materials for study and discussion ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Only Israeli scholars and a few of the "shared trust" from other countries have ever been allowed access. The concern was that the prophet Jethro may have back masked a secret into a scroll that read, "Any Christians who forget for a moment that The Christ killing Pharisees are forever guilty will never hear Gabriel when he blows his flugelhorn, but shall be passed over in forgotten, soulless graves to the tune of 'JESUS IS JUST ALRIGHT WITH ME.'"
As for the Book of Esther ... Martin Luther and I agree in thinking the book is planted dis-info. (Only book of the Bible that fails to mention God). I also question much of what Paul writes in the new testament. (I admit that I may be in error). That being said, I am of the opinion that great efforts have been made to dumb down and De-spiritualize the world. I have a very difficult time with accepting kingship, popery, judgeship, and automatic respect for man made institutions that seemingly become artifices of evil. (Or possibly created to be evil from their initiation). At the same time I think all of these institutional frauds serve some purpose aside from their bad deeds. That is, I think we are expected to discern truth and reject fraud. Our acceptance of fraud will be our undoing. I have looked objectively at the so called British - Israel / Identity theory for a very long time. For me, the important issue wasn't that whitey is something special but that those claiming to be "chosen" are liars and use this falsehood to blind so called Christians from knowing the truth and instill fear of being cursed if they curse these imposters. [Jacob had 12 sons by 4 women and 2 of them were hand maidens. I am studying these relations for a better understanding of the tribes]. Otherwise, I don't have a dog in the fight. Some "Identity" folks like to latch on to a claim of "chosen-ness" that I contend is another fraud and a joke when one considers the behavior of mankind in general. At the same time I don't think it's a bad thing to understand who is ones natural enemy. (By their deeds you shall know them). Side Note: I've mentioned before that the name of Brit ain or Brit ish is Hebrew for covenant land or covenant man. B'nai Brith is a Jewish group and their name means sons of the covenant. Some things have been established like the names of countries and other things that cannot be undone and serve as evidence, facts, or circumstantial evidence in support of truth. I am fascinated by Biblical prophesy as it corresponds with the migrations of a very large contingent of people that I think are being erased from history to whatever extent possible by another group that profits by doing so. We languish in ignorance of our own history knowing not where we come from and worse we're expected to accept many things like kings and Popes without asking why these people continue to wear such ridiculous costumes that seem to justify their positions of authority in the minds of adults acting like children. I think I'm rambling a bit here but would close by saying there's a ton of material available to anyone wishing to compare Biblical scripture and history. In some cases the history not often reported is key. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
(2). The concern was that the prophet Jethro may have back masked a secret into a scroll that read, "Any Christians who forget for a moment that The Christ killing Pharisees are forever guilty will never hear Gabriel when he blows his flugelhorn, but shall be passed over in forgotten, soulless graves to the tune of 'JESUS IS JUST ALRIGHT WITH ME.'" #1 is true and #2 is just too freakin funny ! "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
The Israelites (10 Tribes) have escaped the history books for thousands of years but it is prophesied that they will once again know who they are ... and I believe that is taking place gradually ... and it is THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD" ! The story of Abrahamic Monotheism is largely about milleniums of in-fighting among relatives over ideological differences and it doesn't much seem to matter warwise who is related to who. Moses married an Ethiopian. The mother of the tribes of Joseph was Egyptian. David is descended from Moab and on and on. That being said, I'm not even quite sure why ten tribes of Israel were considered to be lost. Which groups qualify as being found or not seems contingent on whether their DNA matches that of modern day Jews. Here's where I'm confused on the math: The tribes of Judah and Benjamin are said to have been allied as loyalists to the kingship of Solomon's son. The tribe of Simeon is said to have been absorbed into the tribe of Judah and only part of the tribe of Levi was lost -- those who lived in the Northern kingdom of Israel, not those who lived in cities within the Southern kingdom of Judah. So, 3.5 of the 12 tribes could be counted as not lost in the Diaspora and only 8.5 that were, not 10. But then the tribe of Joseph (which means "He adds"/"He will add") began to be counted twice among the lost by the names of his sons (Manasseh and Ephraim) instead of by his name. Even with that sleight-of-hand expansion, it would still only amount to 9.5 groups lost and not 10 unless the number is rounded up. The increase amounts to 13 male tribes of Jacob instead 12 unless Simeon and Judah are counted as one but it's the tribe of Dan (which means "Judgement"; as does the name of Jacob's uncounted daughter, Dinah) and not Simeon that isn't counted as sealed in the Book of Revelation's listing. Maybe he did because Gibson said he wanted to make a Maccabean movie and the prophet, Jeremiah (who is said to have brought a princess of Judah to Ireland), is mentioned in the second book of Maccabees. Edited for formatting + last sentence of paragraph 2. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The truth is that the promise was made to Abram, who would become the father of Ishmael, and not to "Abraham", as he wouldn't be called until years after he had become Ishmael's father [Edit to add: and before he became Isaac's]. Those who instill fear of a cursing if Abraham's Jewish descendants of Isaac are cursed don't seem to understand as much as they should that it is they who would be cursing Abram (to whom the promise was made) if they curse his Ishmaelite descendants and others. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
90% of so-called modern Jews have NO ("blood" / "DNA") RELATION whatsoever to the Israelites/Hebrews. All Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of converts or recent converts. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
As Kinky Friedman observed, "They don't make jews like Jesus anymore."
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Wow, you and several others certainly seem to be well read on this subject. Although the theory that "Gentiles" are the true lost sheep seemed extremely plausible when I first read it (ENGLAND = ANGLE LAND or ANGEL LAND and SAXON = ISAAC'S SON) But, I was disheartened in 1980 when "Pastor Jim Wickstrom" (as the leader of the Wisconsin Posse Comitatus) made the assertion on his weekly phone message. His former wife also told me that Jim not only abandoned her, but also the folks who helped him form his common law township. After the FEDS came to the defense of the public utilities that Wickstrom claimed as township property (demanding millions in right of way fees) He beat feet out of WI. Once the legal troubles ensnared his followers and the law was looking for him Jim split, marrying a woman in PA and beginning anew, boo jaiting for profit. If the GENTILES are the true lost sheep I'd like to see validation other than Wickstrom's "sermon". His resemblance to the fictitious religious heartland huckster Elmer Gantry makes him suspect in my view. Especially after his LARRY KING SHOW appearance where his views and even his presence were never explained, and LARRY was unbelievably polite and deferential to him. The only other so called "patriot voice" I've ever seen treated so gently by the MSM is Alex Jones.
I have never heard the guy (Wickstrom) though I believe I've heard of him. I am easily convinced that most preachers are pulpit prostitutes even though some like George Gordon use their Biblical knowledge instead of a gun to rob people. Personally I'm not one to join up with groups for any number of reasons ... but I enjoy listening to some Biblical scholars and I don't have to agree with them either. Often I'm happy to park the information until a later date or until the subject is being discussed or studied by others. I don't think we'll ever have all of the answers or know the complete truth regarding the history of our ancestors but we already have enough information to know that the people calling themselves Israel or Jews are in no way blood descendants of the Israelites, and the educated among them know it. Looking around a little one has to admit that white people have been chased out of numerous civilizations after building them and allowing foreigners in. We're running out of other places to go. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. [Modern Rabbis claim direct descendancy without break from the Pharisees] 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. 15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? 17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man. 21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he (Christ) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. [Modern Jewry were never of the house of Israel. They are descended from the Japeth lineage and are named as last days ENEMIES of Israel at Ezekiel 38]. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
I am fascinated by Biblical prophesy as it corresponds with the migrations of a very large contingent of people that I think are being erased from history to whatever extent possible by another group that profits by doing so. We languish in ignorance of our own history knowing not where we come from It was stll being called Albion for hundreds of years after tribes of Israel were said to be lost in the 8th century BC. The 4th century BC is apparently when it began to be called something similar to Britain: Pretania/Pritannia or Brettanike/Bretannike [Ref. Pytheas]. Bretta is defined as a word of Celtic and possibly Norse origins. At that link, it's also suggested that the island names of Ictis, Mictis and Corbulo might be the same place and associated with Britain. I can't be sure that the name changing eventually from Albion to Britain wasn't due to migrations of people there with Hebraic roots. It seems to me, though, that the histories of world-poplulations prior to the Lost Tribes/British Israelism mystique and reverences are what is most at risk of languishing to the point of being erased or nearly so. Meanwhile, what is also in the process of being erased and replaced with the "Current/Common Era" initials of BCE and CE are any openly-Christian time-refereces with the initials BC/Before Christ and AD/Anno Domini/In the Year of Our Lord -- so as to be more secular and sensitive to non-Christians, supposedly, whilst Christians can privately read the letter "C" in BCE and CE as if it might mean them rather than Jesus. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
But would you believe Paul? or Jesus? does anyone? Acts 13: 44And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. 45But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, [ see http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/32-21.htm , http://biblehub.com/romans/10-19.htm ] and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. [...or NATIONS] http://biblehub.com/kjv/acts/13.htm http://biblehub.com/acts/13-46.htm GENTILE: Strong's Concordance. Greek 1484 Ethnos. prob. from 1486; a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe; spec. a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by impl. pagan): -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people. the Lost Sheep are people from every nation tribe and tongue; they hear Christ's voice, AND FOLLOW HIM: John 10 Jesus the Good Shepherd (Psalm 23:1-6; Ezekiel 34:11-24 - http://biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/34.htm ) 1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. 7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.... 23And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. 24Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one. 31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him..... http://biblehub.com/kjv/john/10.htm The Lamb is Worthy 5And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/5.htm Revelation 5 - The Lion, the Lamb, and the Scroll - Deed to Planet Earth? http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/6605.htm Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament [Isaiah 9:6-7 - biblehub.com/isaiah/9-6.htm ], Christians of every race are the true lost sheep of the House of Israel, and heirs to the promise made to Abraham: Romans 9:6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. http://biblehub.com/romans/9-8.htm Galatians 3:26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. http://biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm Warning against False Teaching 1 Timothy:3As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, 4nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/1-4.htm IMO, the "Armageddon Battle Plan" [from what I've seen of it] is just part of the massive deception spoken of in Revelation 20:7-10. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
So ??? I didn't claim they were the first humans to inhabit the land. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Much of the scripture that you are quoting above was written by Paul. The quote I am posting here is Christ Himself. Paul may have been a convert or even a preacher of the gospel but he was first a murderer of Christians trained at the foot of Gamaliel, the most prominent pharisee of that time and he was never an apostle. I personally don't think I have a right or even an inclination to determine who Christ chooses to redeem. That's His business alone. In most instances I loathe the so-called royalty of western nations but at the same time I find it relevant to demonstrate God's word is true. The majority of so-called Christians have allowed the Jewish imposters to make God a liar through their claims of being "chosen" while they haven't fulfilled even one of the basic promises to Abraham. The migrations of the 10 northern tribes is in itself miraculous. EDIT: Oh yeah, nice to see you here ! "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
One last thought to clear the air regarding my comments related to Paul and his writings. As far as redemption concerns Paul I believe all things are possible with the Lord. As regards his writings, he said many things that offended the real apostles that had walked with Christ and he caused disturbances amongst the apostles. The grace message is argued over by theologians and scholars world wide and it's not my intention to debate something that's up to God. I will say however that the grace message allows the average church-goer to believe they can continually do wrong as long as they say they believe in Jesus with their last breath. Whether or not this is true concerns me less than the obvious weaknesses it produces amongst the congregations that have become like cattle herded into the abyss of gray area causing them to sit on their hands and let things spiral into complete domination by those willing to do evil on earth. Even Christ picked up the cat of nine tails and flogged the money changers (bankers) for defiling His Father's house. Organized religion, which reveres Paul more than Christ, has made a mockery of mercy, justice and grace. I know we may disagree and that's OK with me because I love and appreciate your posts and your scriptural knowledge and dedication to the Word of God. "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
a program-series titled Apocalypse: World War One/WWI one episode particularly seems more sequestered than some of the others, which has perspectives on the Middle East theatre of war then and Palestine issues like British Lawerence of Arabia's machinations of betrayal and manipulations. iirc, the episode regarding the Middle East was titled "Rage". am recommending all 5 of those 1-hour programs for viewing, if possible, with emphasis on the Middle East installment that I think is the one called "Rage". Read somewhere that the series might be scheduled for the public's access again [Edit to add: perhaps on the Smithsonian Channel or NatGeo?] near the end of this month and/or the 1st half of November. [Edit to add that the "sequel", "Apocalypse: The Second World War"/WWII, is not so strangely secretive and difficult to find and it's not even a Centennial year for that.] Apocalypse: World War One/WWI is scheduled for this Friday, 11/14/14, on the American Heroes Channel starting at 6:00 PM. "Rage", regarding the Middle East but described only in terms of tank warfare, is Episode 3 of the 5 and starts at 8:00 PM. Recommend recording that episode particularly because here is another example of WWI history about the Middle East being targeted for suppression: Video Playlist at 4um Title: The First World War I have not viewed all of the videos in the series yet but it was recommended recently in two articles by Jim Kirwan. The original playlist has been completely deleted. It had listed video #4 there as "War in the Middle East (1914 to 1916)" but it was blocked from viewing with this message: "This video may be inappropriate for some users. Sign in to confirm your age." Now it has been removed altogether at the alternate source above -- the video likely of most relevance to our nation's involvement in the current conflicts and wars in the Middle East. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
4um posting with corrected program info: Edited for formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Copy of Post #2 at 4um Title: "The First World War" Re: the program-series titled Apocalypse: WWI/ World War One I was wrong about which of the 5 episodes the Middle East segment might be in. It is in the last one, "Deliverance", and only spans Scroll down at archive.org to: T. E. LAWRENCE: THE PROBLEM OF HEROISM 23 - 24 THE HERO AND HISTORY Apocalypse: WWI/World War One is scheduled again for Saturday, 11/29/14, on the American Heroes Channel starting at 9:00 AM until 2:00 PM in this time zone, with the "Deliverance" episode starting at 1:00 PM. Not only is the footage very modernesque for the period, which was a decade or so prior to silent movies from Hollywood, but it also has high quality sound/sound effects throughout, which is eerie to me for that pre-silent film era, although it does make the documentary like traveling back in time. Even the sound of footsteps can be heard but not much that is spoken other than by the narrator. The only speaking example I can recall currently was a French promo of America's Liberty Bonds to finance the war, some of which defaulted here and are still linked presently with what's called the (Strawman) Redemption Movement. That 2 minute segment is in the 4th episode, "Rage", at 0:42 through 0:44. Edited for spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Post #10: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians Just want to copy that link on Scythians here for more study later because it mentions the Caucasus region (places such as Iran, Ukraine and Russia) and also the Serbs (ref. WWI origins). Posts in this topic referencing Cimmerians and/or Scythians: #s 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, 17, 27, 30, 31, 34 Cross-referencing Post #1 at 4um Title: "Ukraine | Khazar Khaganate News 06. 01. 15 | English Subs" for more about the Ukraine/Russia/Caucasus/Black Sea/Khazaria region of Cimmerians, Scythians and Lost Ten Tribes thematics including Sambation river legends. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Post #24 | Tamar Tephi, Princess Of Judah Those are posted reference materials linked in this topic about Tamar/Tea Tephi, thought to have been a Judaic Princess brought by the Old Testament prophet of Diasporas, Jeremiah, to the British Isles. She is particularly central to Ireland and its Hill of Tara (or Temair in gaeilge, meaning "a place of great prospect") in the Ten Lost Tribe thematics of British Israelism. Some commentary on that here at Post #34. On a sidenote, Buddhism's "mother of liberation" is called Tara. Am cross-referencing Post #2 at 4um Title: "Israeli minister warns of crisis in ties with US" because of the videos and info there on Iraq and Afghan Treasures. The Iraq info continues at Post #s 3 and 4. Two of the 3 videos about the Afghan Treasures at the above linked Post #2 (the 2nd and 3rd of those) might be of possible relevance to the Tamar/Tea Tephi legend somehow, as they mention a place there called Tillya Tepe (meaning "Golden Hill") which sounds very similar when spoken to the name Tea Tephi associated British Israelism sagas of Ireland. The points in the two short Afghan videos where Tillya Tepe is spoken of are: once at the beginning of the 2nd video in the first 45 seconds and twice in the 3rd video [Warning: Graphic] at 1:12-1:23 and 5:12-5:16. Just FYI on that. Additional info about Afghanistan's Pashtuns/Pathans and their Ten Lost Tribes/Osama Bin Laden linkages, etc., in another archival posting planned for here sometime. Edited punctuation. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Braveheart 1995 2hr 57min http://vidzi.tv/f28755df3b43.html
2hr 57min http://vidzi.tv/f28755df3b43.html Thank you, Neo. I can't access it currently on this computer but might be able to do so eventually after repairs/upgrades. Good that I can find it here when I can try again. : ) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Gene Scott's wife took his archives down after he passed away. He spoke on a multitude of topics and his fans/followers were continuously sending him books to read and then speak about.
The Honours of Scotland, also known as the Scottish Regalia and the Scottish Crown Jewels, dating from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, are the oldest set of crown jewels in the British Isles.
According to the teachings of Dr. Gene Scott (Ph.D Stanford) the Stone of Destiny is originally Jacob's pillar stone (Genesis 28:18) also called the Shepherd Stone and the Stone of Israel (Genesis 49:24). The same rock that Moses strikes in Exodus 17:6 and Numbers 20:11 (c. 1413 B.C.).
Article excerpts: The Coronation ceremony appears to have been taken as directly as possible from the description in the Bible of the coronation of David and Solomon. The monarch is anointed with sacred oil by the Archbishop of Canterbury, trumpets sound, and the people shout "God Save the King" (1 Samuel 10:24, 1 Kings 1:39). The royal crown contains twelve jewels made of the same twelve stones which were in the breastplate of the high priest (Ex. 28:17-21). These similarities alone do not prove that the kings really are the royal blood of Israel, but such would be expected if the British throne is the continuation of the throne of David. Of course, the royalty also have extensive genealogies to prove their lineage.
[...] King Edward moved to arrest Bruce while Bruce was still at the English court. Fortunately for Bruce, his friend, and Edward's son-in-law, Ralph de Monthermer learnt of Edward's intention and warned Bruce by sending him twelve pence and a pair of spurs. Bruce took the hint, and he and a squire fled the English court during the night. They made their way quickly for Scotland [...]
there is some evidence that he left on a mission to the court of King Philip IV of France to plead the case for assistance in the Scottish struggle for independence. There is a surviving letter from the French king dated 7 November 1300 to his envoys in Rome demanding that they should help Sir William. It also suggests that Wallace may have intended to travel to Rome, although it is not known if he did. There is also a report from an English spy at a meeting of Scottish leaders, where they said Wallace was in France.
#18. To: GreyLmist (#17)
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There is a biblical connection with the known history of the stone and Ezekiel 21:27 where the stone is overthrown three times - Judah to Ireland, Ireland to Scotland, Scotland to England. Although, in 2004 the stone was moved to Scotland, Scotland did not need to physically seize the stone.
#19. To: GreyLmist (#17)
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The Coronation ceremony appears to have been taken as directly as possible from the description in the Bible of the coronation of David and Solomon. The monarch is anointed with sacred oil by the Archbishop of Canterbury, trumpets sound, and the people shout "God Save the King" (1 Samuel 10:24, 1 Kings 1:39). The royal crown contains twelve jewels made of the same twelve stones which were in the breastplate of the high priest (Ex. 28:17-21). These similarities alone do not prove that the kings really are the royal blood of Israel, but such would be expected if the British throne is the continuation of the throne of David. Of course, the royalty also have extensive genealogies to prove their lineage.
When the Stone of Scone was returned to Scotland in 1996, it also was placed in the Crown Room, alongside the Honours.
#20. To: All (#17)
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Legend says that [William] Wallace did have a close friend called Stephen of Ireland. Legend states however that Wallace’s closest friend was a man known as Kerly. Of course there is no solid evidence that either Stephen of Ireland or Kerly really existed.
Wallace may have been betrayed by the Noblemen under John Comyn [aka? Stewart/Menteith], although there is no solid evidence of this, but not by fictional characters Mornay and Locklan. Comyn and his noble cavalry did indeed flee the field [at Falkirk] however, either by betrayal or fear, leaving the Scottish ranks of Schiltrons to be slaughtered by English arrows. Wallace was captured by the English at Rob Royston near Glasgow after being betrayed by John Menteith [aka? Comyn/Stewart], who was a Scotsman.
#21. To: GreyLmist (#20)
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#22. To: Itistoolate (#21)
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#24. To: GreyLmist (#23)
familytreemaker.genealogy...en-Harper/GENE3-0001.html
#25. To: noone222 (#24)
#26. To: Itistoolate (#21)
#27. To: GreyLmist (#25)
Below is the Declaration of Arbroath (The Scots) formerly Scythians !
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Alexander, Earl of Menteith: [...] In another writ, of uncertain date, granted by their [Stewart] father to Kilwinning Abbey, he and his brother are styled Alexander and John de Menteith.
IT IS said to be the ancient royal seat of Scotland, a place where kings were crowned and the Stone of Destiny was kept.
Definition of BRIGADOON: a place that is idyllic, unaffected by time, or remote from reality
#30. To: noone222 (#27)
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Below is the Declaration of Arbroath (The Scots) formerly Scythians !
May it please you to admonish and exhort the King of the English, who ought to be satisfied with what belongs to him since England used once to be enough for seven kings or more, to leave us Scots in peace
The Declaration of Arbroath is a declaration of Scottish independence, made in 1320. It is in the form of a letter in Latin submitted to Pope John XXII, dated 6 April 1320, intended to confirm Scotland's status as an independent, sovereign state and defending Scotland's right to use military action when unjustly attacked.
#31. To: GreyLmist (#30)
#32. To: noone222 (#19)
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Genesis 49:10 [Full Chapter] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
#33. To: noone222 (#31)
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#35. To: abraxas (#2)
Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947 and immediately hauled to Israel.....so, they are just getting around to examining the content now? What's the rush?
#36. To: GreyLmist (#34)
#37. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)
(1). Only Israeli scholars and a few of the "shared trust" from other countries have ever been allowed access.
#38. To: noone222 (#31)
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My goal is not debate but learning the history of the Ten Lost Tribes
As a side note: When Gene Scott was alive I tried to get him to contact Mel Gibson for the purpose of making a movie about this history.
#39. To: noone222 (#36)
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I have looked objectively at the so called British - Israel / Identity theory for a very long time. For me, the important issue wasn't that whitey is something special but that those claiming to be "chosen" are liars and use this falsehood to blind so called Christians from knowing the truth and instill fear of being cursed if they curse these imposters.
1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great ; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
#40. To: GreyLmist (#38)
Which groups qualify as being found or not seems contingent on whether their DNA matches that of modern day Jews.
#41. To: noone222 (#40)
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#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#42)
But, I was disheartened in 1980 when "Pastor Jim Wickstrom" (as the leader of the Wisconsin Posse Comitatus) made the assertion on his weekly phone message.
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#45. To: noone222 (#36)
Side Note: I've mentioned before that the name of Brit ain or Brit ish is Hebrew for covenant land or covenant man. B'nai Brith is a Jewish group and their name means sons of the covenant. Some things have been established like the names of countries and other things that cannot be undone and serve as evidence, facts, or circumstantial evidence in support of truth.
An alternative name for England is Albion. The name Albion originally referred to the entire island of Great Britain. [...] The word Albion or insula Albionum has two possible origins. It either derives from a cognate of the Latin albus meaning white, a reference to the white cliffs of Dover, the only part of Britain visible from the European Continent, or from the phrase the "island of the Albiones" in the now lost Massaliote Periplus [a merchants' handbook possibly dating from as early as the 6th century BC describing the sea routes used by traders from Phoenicia and Tartessus in their journeys around Iron Age Europe].
#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#42)
If the GENTILES are the true lost sheep I'd like to see validation other than Wickstrom's "sermon".
#47. To: GreyLmist (#45)
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The name Albion originally referred to the entire island of Great Britain.
#48. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#46)
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#50. To: All (#20)
another example of some history we've been deprived of for who knows what reason, as mentioned previously in discussions above.
2003 TV Mini-Series of 10 1-hour videos but video #4 (on the Middle East?) has been Deleted from this playlist
#51. To: All (#50)
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Apocalypse: World War One/WWI is scheduled for this Friday, 11/14/14, on the American Heroes Channel starting at 6:00 PM. "Rage", regarding the Middle East
but described only in terms of tank warfare, is Episode 3 of the 5 and starts at 8:00 PM.Apocalypse: World War One/WWI is scheduled for this Friday, 11/14/14, on the American Heroes Channel starting at 6:00 PM. "Rage" is Episode 4 of the 5 and starts at 9:00 PM. Recommend recording that episode particularly; also Episode 3, "Hell", that starts at 8:00 PM, since I still can't find any series descriptions that mention the Middle East and Palestine issues confirmably as to which episode.
#52. To: All (#51)
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3-4 minutes of that hour from 0:39 through 0:42. Nothing is shown and is scarcely even mentioned of the war there that defeated the entire Ottoman Empire but it does say at the opening: "With support from Arab tribes, the British complete their conquest of Turkish ruled Palestine." It spends considerable time on footage of camels and talking about Lawerence of Arabia's clothing but only a few seconds to note promises broken in betrayal of the Arabs who had fought with the British for their independence and Palestine's. This quote is attributed to him on his thirtieth birthday soon before the entry into Damascus: I began to wonder if all established reputations were founded, like mine, on fraud. ... I must have had some tendency, some aptitude, for deceit. Without that I should not have deceived men so well, and persisted two years in bringing to success a deceit which others had framed and set afoot.
#53. To: All (#10)
Post #7: a Cimmerian correlation to a culture/place called Koban and Kobani is currently in the War news
#54. To: All, noone222 (#33)
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Post #18 | JEREMIAH AND TEA TEPHI + commentary
#55. To: GreyLmist (#54)
#56. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#55)
Braveheart 1995
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