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Title: Idiot Deputy Who Slapped Man Arrested and Fired
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Published: Nov 11, 2014
Author: Michael Zurlo
Post Date: 2014-11-11 12:33:28 by James Deffenbach
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Great news on this prompt action. There should have been an assault charge also. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
There should have been an assault charge also. Very good indeed! This should also put an end to the notion that video recording police while they are on duty is somehow a criminal act!
where is the charge of aggravated assault? will sentencing include the mandatory ten years for possessing a firearm during the commission of a crime?
I wish they would charge him with that. Would make other cops a bit more careful exercising their "authoritah!" Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
There should have been an assault charge also. I agree. He should be sued and lose his home for crap like that. You know that wouldn't have been the first time, he was way too comfortable doing that. Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
I believe that the original article said that in '99 the city paid 6M to settle a similar case against this pig. Personal liability is the only solution to these type crimes, imo. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Sure, as long as they know that the town or city (or county) they work for will pick up the tab for their bad acts and they also know they will get paid vacations when they commit them, where is the incentive for them NOT to do crap like that? If they knew that when they violate someone's rights and when it is so obvious as it was in this case that not only would they lose their job the same day but that they would not be backed up with other people's money for the judgement against them it could make a big difference. And I think it would.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
I'm with ya bro ! "I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Every single cop who does something like this should be prosecuted, and then prohibited for LIFE from ever doing police or security work. Period. This is a bully who got into a profession where his mindset of being a bully was rewarded. "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
I agree with that 100%.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
2 men who taped slapping incident with sheriff's officer set to sue Saratoga County Saratoga County named in notice following encounter with sheriff's sergeant http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Pair- who-taped-slapping-incident-plan-to-sue-5886565.php By Lauren Stanforth Updated 7:38 am, Wednesday, November 12, 2014 nextprevious 1 of 5 . . Saratoga County Sheriff?s Sgt. Shawn Glans is seen on a video during an encounter with two young men in Halfmoon that was then posted on the Internet. He is suspended. Saratoga County Sheriff?s Sgt. Shawn Glans is seen on a video during an encounter with two young men in Halfmoon that was then posted on the Internet. He is suspended. () Sergeant Shawn R. Glans was arrested and resigned Monday, days after the deputy was suspended after a video posted on the Internet captured him allegedly slapping a young man as the deputy insisted on searching his vehicle. Glans of the Saratoga County sheriff's department was charged Monday with official misconduct and harassment. The misconduct charge, a misdemeanor, is a the more serious offense and carries a maximum sentence of one year in prison. A judge forbid him from having contact with the alleged victim. Colin Fitch, left, is questioned by Sgt. Shawn R. Glans, right, during an incident where Glans allegedly slapped Fitch when he refused to allow him to search his vehicle. (Adam Roberts via Youtube) Adam Roberts turns the camera on himself while recording an incident where Sgt. Shawn R. Glans allegedly slapped Colin Fitch when he refused to allow him to search his vehicle. (Adam Roberts via Youtube) Saratoga County Sheriff?s Sgt. Shawn Glans is seen on a video during an encounter with two young men in Halfmoon that was then posted on the Internet. He is suspended. Sergeant Shawn R. Glans was arrested and resigned Monday, days after the deputy was suspended after a video posted on the Internet captured him allegedly slapping a young man as the deputy insisted on searching his vehicle. Glans of the Saratoga County sheriff's department was charged Monday with official misconduct and harassment. The misconduct charge, a misdemeanor, is a the more serious offense and carries a maximum sentence of one year in prison. A judge forbid him from having contact with the alleged victim. Colin Fitch, left, is questioned by Sgt. Shawn R. Glans, right, during an incident where Glans allegedly slapped Fitch when he refused to allow him to search his vehicle. (Adam Roberts via Youtube) Adam Roberts turns the camera on himself while recording an incident where Sgt. Shawn R. Glans allegedly slapped Colin Fitch when he refused to allow him to search his vehicle. (Adam Roberts via Youtube) The two men who videotaped their encounter with a Saratoga County sheriff's sergeant that resulted in the officer's resignation and arrest have filed a notice of claim that they intend to sue the county for violating their constitutional rights. Colin A. Fitch and Adam M. Roberts met Monday with attorney Terence Kindlon, who said he sent the notice to Saratoga County Attorney Stephen Dorsey and County Sheriff Michael Zurlo. The notice alerts the county that the plaintiffs intend to sue the municipality for damages in the case. Kindlon said he also plans to sue former Sgt. Shawn R. Glans. Kindlon shed light on the two young men, who have been largely silent after posting the video Friday night that captures Glans berating them with expletives in order to gain access to Fitch's car. Heard off-camera is a slap, which, according to court documents, Glans delivered to the back of Fitch's head. The sheriff's office received a call at 1:50 a.m. Friday of a suspicious vehicle on Route 236 in Halfmoon. Glans and two other officers didn't find the vehicle at that location, but eventually located it in the Route 9 Walmart parking lot. Fitch and Roberts were wearing dark clothes, and there was a rifle openly visible in the back seat. Glans previously told the Times Union that he reacted the way he did because he felt it was an unsafe situation. Kindlon said Fitch and Roberts, who are in their early 20s, are best friends who have no criminal background and are both employed. The lawyer said his clients parked far away from a house party they wanted to attend to avoid any potential damage to the car, and when they couldn't find the party they went to Walmart. Kindlon said that officers went into the store and found Fitch and Roberts — who were patted down for weapons inside the building. Previously, police were vague about how Glans and the officers came upon the two men in the parking lot. Zurlo said he couldn't comment on the notice of claim or the new details about the patdown. Kindlon did not explain why Fitch was driving around with a rifle in the back seat, but said he will sue for damages because his clients' Fourth and Second Amendment rights were violated. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizure, and the Second Amendment is the right to bear arms. Kindlon said Fitch produced a receipt for his weapon for the officers. A permit is not required to own a rifle. "If somebody takes the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution to wipe the mud off his feet, then that's a problem," Kindlon said. Glans resigned Monday at the same time he was charged with official misconduct, a misdemeanor, and harassment for allegedly striking Fitch. Roberts videotaped the encounter, which has been viewed thousands of times on the Internet. Two other officers were present during the incident, and Zurlo said they are facing an internal investigation. Their names were not released. Kindlon is handling six other cases alleging police misconduct, including that of a former Hudson Valley Community College football player who filed a federal civil rights lawsuit last month saying Troy police beat him and used a Taser on him after he was found jaywalking. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The 2nd degree harassment charge (240.26 subsection 1) includes "striking, punching, kicking" or threatening same. It must have been inserted into the criminal code to soft pedal brutal organized labor goons who beat people up while organizing or, on walkout. And, no elected official in New York wants to press felony jail time in a state where unions can buy as much influence as their widows and orphans fund can afford. It sure seems awfully lenient even though it can result in a year in the clink and a $10,000 fine. I guess the DA wants to alert cops to the writing on the wall before dropping a load of bricks on this cop. After all, it's only fair in a state where historically any who tried to outrun a NY State Trooper would catch a beatin'. And you can sure tell that the sheriff is elected. A viral video of one of his disgusting beer gut deputies going ape (use of force disproportionate to the circs while gooning his way through an unlawful, non consensual search) could provide an excellent platform for a challenger, even his chief deputy, if the sheriff didn't explode with sincere outrage after seeing the video. (Well, supposedly because of the deputy's conduct, but Hell, everybody knows what kind of law and order they hand out up there, but they ain't supposed to get caught "pink handed" from the slap.) Regarding the charge of "carrying a firearm during the commission of a crime" that would be gratuitous, i.e. "being without apparent reason, cause, or justification" because the deputy was armed in the course of his duties. An exception would involve proving that he intended to commit a crime when he left for work or suited up later, i.e. conspiracy to rob a bank (or a drug dealer) with a bunch of other cops. But that would be hard to prove since honest cops who snitch are dealt with harshly, as Frank Serpico exemplified.
I knew a retired cop in So Cal who used to tell me stories in the 90's,. he died in 2012 but a few months before he died, I saw him at church and suggested to him that he make a youtube video of some of the stories he told. and what he experienced. in the 90s he had told me that he had seen so much rot and crimes in his department that he had felt threatened if he didnt go along with it. and one night, he was in his house and saw someone come around the corner. he was so paranoid that he pulled his gun on them and it was his own wife. at that point he made the decision to quit the force because he was scared to death they were going to kill him. I couldn't make it to his funeral, but i was told there were hundreds of cops and a lot of pomp and circumstance. I bet those church people had no idea who this guy really was and what he probably thought of those coppers. in the end he was sort of a coward who didn't want to rock the boat and expose the truth- to each his own, I suppose. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
From Wiki The Choirboys (ISBN 0-440-11188-9), a novel, is a controversial 1975 work of fiction written by Los Angeles Police Department officer-turned-novelist Joseph Wambaugh. In 1995 the novel was selected by the Mystery Writers of America as Number 93 of The Top 100 Crime Novels of All Time. The Choirboys is a tragicomic parody about the effects of urban police work on young officers, seen through the exploits of a group of Los Angeles police officers in the Wilshire Division of the Los Angeles Police Department. As I recall it was a fantastic read. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Thanks for sharing that. I hope you'll reconsider the judgement of cowardice against those who choose not to forfeit their time on the job and otherwise vested pensions, not to mention the respect of their family, friends and some members of the community. I mean, they say that in a corrupt society the logical place for an honest man is in jail, and I've been made privy to things that I could have ratted about. But, like your friend I rationalize with the belief that alone I'm powerless to change the system and I'd only screw myself and my family if I turned into Pollyanna God's-Truth. And cops who pack the gear are by definition team players even if the team suffers from a net character deficit. And, to this day Serpico gets hate mail from cops who "wish he had died" when his partners abandoned him on a dynamic entry and he was shot in the face. Some cops are so outraged that they slander him now by suggesting that he turned his life and the NYPD upside down over a short in his petty cash envelope. (which makes no sense since as a narc he could have gone into business for himself, he wouldn't always be the new guy on the squad, the others had no reason to short anyone on the pad {honor among thieves }and there's not one scrap of proof that he ever took a dime or was denied or demanded a fair split of the manna.) Depending on the level of corruption in a department one honest cop can make his fellow cops slobber like wild animals as they grasp for anything with which to lash out. No, a cop who wished Serpico was dead and who was prepared to lie to his supervisors, Internal Affairs, The Knapp Commission and whoever to save his own ass is 100% trustworthy when attempting to disparage the one cop who knocked them all off the gravy train. After all, he may murder another cop who snitches but tell a lie to impugn his character? Never!
Read more at www.liveleak.com/view?i=c...00374#GSxqzRAq8tivxfV5.99 I read about this incident recently and it relates to your comments IMO. Bad cops going after a good cop.
Thanks for sharing that.
#2. To: Lod (#1)
Great news on this prompt action.
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.
#4. To: IRTorqued (#3)
(Edited)
where is the charge of aggravated assault? will sentencing include the mandatory ten years for possessing a firearm during the commission of a crime?
#5. To: Lod (#1)
Great news on this prompt action.
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
#7. To: Lod (#6)
#8. To: Lod (#6)
Personal liability is the only solution to these type crimes, imo.
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#10. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)
#11. To: James Deffenbach, pinguinite, lod (#0)
#12. To: IRTorqued, Pinguinite, Lod, James Deffenbach, christine (#3)
(Edited)
where is the charge of aggravated assault? will sentencing include the mandatory ten years for possessing a firearm during the commission of a crime?
#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
honest cops who snitch are dealt with harshly, as Frank Serpico exemplified.
#14. To: Artisan (#13)
I knew a retired cop in So Cal who used to tell me stories in the 90's,
#15. To: Artisan (#13)
#16. To: HOUNDDAWG, Artisan (#15)
"A Middlesex County grand jury has indicted four Edison police officers for allegedly planning retaliation against a North Brunswick police officer because of a drunken-driving charge.An 11-count indictment, handed up on Oct. 24, charges officers Michael A. Dotro, 37, of Manalapan; Brian Favretto, 39, of Brick; and Victor E. Aravena, 42, and William H. Gesell, 46, both of Edison, with conspiracy and official misconduct.
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16)
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