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Title: Idiot Deputy Who Slapped Man Arrested and Fired
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Published: Nov 11, 2014
Author: Michael Zurlo
Post Date: 2014-11-11 12:33:28 by James Deffenbach
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#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

where is the charge of aggravated assault? will sentencing include the mandatory ten years for possessing a firearm during the commission of a crime?

IRTorqued  posted on  2014-11-11   13:33:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IRTorqued, Pinguinite, Lod, James Deffenbach, christine (#3) (Edited)

where is the charge of aggravated assault? will sentencing include the mandatory ten years for possessing a firearm during the commission of a crime?

The 2nd degree harassment charge (240.26 subsection 1) includes "striking, punching, kicking" or threatening same. It must have been inserted into the criminal code to soft pedal brutal organized labor goons who beat people up while organizing or, on walkout.

And, no elected official in New York wants to press felony jail time in a state where unions can buy as much influence as their widows and orphans fund can afford.

It sure seems awfully lenient even though it can result in a year in the clink and a $10,000 fine.

I guess the DA wants to alert cops to the writing on the wall before dropping a load of bricks on this cop. After all, it's only fair in a state where historically any who tried to outrun a NY State Trooper would catch a beatin'.

And you can sure tell that the sheriff is elected. A viral video of one of his disgusting beer gut deputies going ape (use of force disproportionate to the circs while gooning his way through an unlawful, non consensual search) could provide an excellent platform for a challenger, even his chief deputy, if the sheriff didn't explode with sincere outrage after seeing the video. (Well, supposedly because of the deputy's conduct, but Hell, everybody knows what kind of law and order they hand out up there, but they ain't supposed to get caught "pink handed" from the slap.)

Regarding the charge of "carrying a firearm during the commission of a crime" that would be gratuitous, i.e. "being without apparent reason, cause, or justification" because the deputy was armed in the course of his duties. An exception would involve proving that he intended to commit a crime when he left for work or suited up later, i.e. conspiracy to rob a bank (or a drug dealer) with a bunch of other cops. But that would be hard to prove since honest cops who snitch are dealt with harshly, as Frank Serpico exemplified.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2014-11-12   13:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)

honest cops who snitch are dealt with harshly, as Frank Serpico exemplified.

I knew a retired cop in So Cal who used to tell me stories in the 90's,. he died in 2012 but a few months before he died, I saw him at church and suggested to him that he make a youtube video of some of the stories he told. and what he experienced.

in the 90s he had told me that he had seen so much rot and crimes in his department that he had felt threatened if he didnt go along with it. and one night, he was in his house and saw someone come around the corner. he was so paranoid that he pulled his gun on them and it was his own wife. at that point he made the decision to quit the force because he was scared to death they were going to kill him.

I couldn't make it to his funeral, but i was told there were hundreds of cops and a lot of pomp and circumstance. I bet those church people had no idea who this guy really was and what he probably thought of those coppers.

in the end he was sort of a coward who didn't want to rock the boat and expose the truth- to each his own, I suppose.

Artisan  posted on  2014-11-12   14:04:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#13)

Thanks for sharing that.

I hope you'll reconsider the judgement of cowardice against those who choose not to forfeit their time on the job and otherwise vested pensions, not to mention the respect of their family, friends and some members of the community.

I mean, they say that in a corrupt society the logical place for an honest man is in jail, and I've been made privy to things that I could have ratted about. But, like your friend I rationalize with the belief that alone I'm powerless to change the system and I'd only screw myself and my family if I turned into Pollyanna God's-Truth.

And cops who pack the gear are by definition team players even if the team suffers from a net character deficit.

And, to this day Serpico gets hate mail from cops who "wish he had died" when his partners abandoned him on a dynamic entry and he was shot in the face. Some cops are so outraged that they slander him now by suggesting that he turned his life and the NYPD upside down over a short in his petty cash envelope. (which makes no sense since as a narc he could have gone into business for himself, he wouldn't always be the new guy on the squad, the others had no reason to short anyone on the pad {honor among thieves }and there's not one scrap of proof that he ever took a dime or was denied or demanded a fair split of the manna.)

Depending on the level of corruption in a department one honest cop can make his fellow cops slobber like wild animals as they grasp for anything with which to lash out.

No, a cop who wished Serpico was dead and who was prepared to lie to his supervisors, Internal Affairs, The Knapp Commission and whoever to save his own ass is 100% trustworthy when attempting to disparage the one cop who knocked them all off the gravy train. After all, he may murder another cop who snitches but tell a lie to impugn his character? Never!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2014-11-12   14:44:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: HOUNDDAWG, Artisan (#15)

"A Middlesex County grand jury has indicted four Edison police officers for allegedly planning retaliation against a North Brunswick police officer because of a drunken-driving charge.An 11-count indictment, handed up on Oct. 24, charges officers Michael A. Dotro, 37, of Manalapan; Brian Favretto, 39, of Brick; and Victor E. Aravena, 42, and William H. Gesell, 46, both of Edison, with conspiracy and official misconduct.

Read more at www.liveleak.com/view?i=c...00374#GSxqzRAq8tivxfV5.99

I read about this incident recently and it relates to your comments IMO. Bad cops going after a good cop.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2014-11-12 15:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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