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Title: Erdogan says Muslims, not Columbus, discovered Americas
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says- ... overed-americas-162759161.html
Published: Nov 16, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-11-16 01:33:23 by Tatarewicz
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Yahoo... Istanbul (AFP) - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century, nearly three centuries before Christopher Columbus set foot there. "Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," the conservative president said in a televised speech during an Istanbul summit of Muslim leaders from Latin America. "Muslim sailors arrived in America from 1178. Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast," Erdogan said. Erdogan said that Ankara was even prepared to build a mosque at the site mentioned by the Genoese explorer. "I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," the Turkish leader said. History books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India. A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbian ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found. In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.
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#5. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
I bet that isn't the first lie he ever told.
I bet that isn't the first lie he ever told. He's not called "ErredAgain" for nothing.
LOL! Good one. Next thing you know they will be taking credit for inventing fire, electricity and the wheel.
Ancient Aliens brought all that stuff to Earth. Only the Romans managed to do anything monumental on their own without alien intervention. That's what I learnt, mostly from the History Channel. Edited for capitalization.
Ancient aliens brought all that stuff to earth? I have grave doubts about that claim.
Pyramids (that we have not a clue as to their construction) scattered about the globe make me believe in visitors from space.
I'm not saying that it's impossible, just that I would need more proof than I have seen up until now.
JD: I'm not saying that it's impossible, just that I would need more proof than I have seen up until now. I don't know which show(s) I've watched exactly on how the massive stones for building the Pyramids and Stonehenge might have been moved, but one of them has a guy with a holographic device on his hand and shows them being turned into axles with wheels at each end. Also, being rolled over ball bearings lined up inside of a u-shaped track. One show demonstrated how they could have been loaded onto barges and floated to the construction sites. Possibly, the Nile was temporarily diverted for that purpose. The stones might have been raised with block and tackle rigs operated by men or oxen walking inside large wooden wheels. Here's a 6 minute YouTube below that shows a man moving huge stones rather quickly by himself. What I wonder about most is what fuel they used (especially in the desert regions of Egypt) to make all of the chisels they would have needed for those stoneworks -- 3 per day per person with maybe hundreds on the crews working for decades, by one estimate. Man Moves Huge Blocks! - YouTube Edited for spelling.
Very clever - thanks. The mystery of the pyramids is the laser-like precision cuts of the stones as well as the rooms and stairways inside them. Stonehenge is quite primitive in comparison...primitive, but still impressive.
In finish and execution, Stonehenge seems inferior to the Great Pyramids, but its siting and geometry suggest a great deal of astronomical sophistication. It functions as a circular observatory precisely at the latitude it is situated at. Any closer to the equator or the pole, and it would have to be constructed as an ovoid. When observed from an aerial view Stonehenge demonstrates so much more. The Heel Stone azimuth is precisely 360/7 East of North. http://www.jqjacobs.net/astro/epoch_2000.html When comparing the mathematics and measurements of Stonehenge there is a strong correlation to the mathematics measurements of Giza in Egypt and Teotihuacan in Mexico. I personally believe the design is based on cyclical periodicity of a scientific astronomical origin rather than the religious origin most would have you believe. http://www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=312460&t=312400
I got to see Stonehenge under construction long ago -- a miniature model that wasn't nearly so intricate but just as stellar, I thought then and still do. : )
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#6. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century....
#7. To: GreyLmist (#6)
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
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Next thing you know they will be taking credit for inventing fire, electricity and the wheel.
#9. To: GreyLmist (#8)
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
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#11. To: Lod (#10)
#16. To: James Deffenbach, Lod (#11)
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Lod: Pyramids (that we have not a clue as to their construction) scattered about the globe make me believe in visitors from space.
#19. To: GreyLmist (#16)
#20. To: Lod (#19)
http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/stonehenge/stnpik02.htm
The Station Stones form a rectangle whose diagonals intersect at 45°, very close to the centre of Stonehenge The sides and diagonals of this rectangle possess what Gerald Hawkins called 'astronomic significance.' One pair of sides mark the Summer Solstice Sunrise/ Winter Solstice Sunset, the other pair indicate the most northerly/southerly moonrise/moonset. Only at, or very close to, the latitude of Stonehenge (51' 10" ) do these alignments intersect at an angle of 90°. 'The implications of this are that the builders of Stonehenge had a knowledge of the global nature of the Earth' - Devereux 
Quoting from: Temporal Epoch Calculations by James Q. Jacobs in which he states: “I noted that the latitude at Avebury equals the circumference of the earth divided by 7, with an error less than the diameter of Avebury. I later noted a simple geometric relation for Stonehenge's much-publicized Heel Stone alignment. The Heel Stone azimuth is precisely 51.4286° E. of N., also CIR/7. I had questioned the 'Heel Stone—winter solstice sunrise' alignment because the solstice azimuth has dramatically changed, and finding the Heel Stone's precise CIR/7 azimuth added to my doubts. I almost dismissed the summer solstice sunrise alignment rationale for the Heel Stone. CIR/7 not only fits the 'simplest explanatory theory' concept, it fits circularity. A 1/7-azimuth alignment in a circle makes more sense than apparent, time-varying solar motion. After all, one-seventh is a constant reference, not a moving target”.
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