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Title: Ferguson: The Safety of Citizens is Lost with The Unaccountability of Police
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/ ... s/when-cops-are-unaccountable/
Published: Nov 27, 2014
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2014-11-27 09:11:35 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 205
Comments: 10

Events in Ferguson unfolded as most aware Americans thought they would. A white prosecutor guided a grand jury to the decision that the white policeman who shot and killed a young black male had just cause and committed no crime.

The black majority but politically powerless community in Ferguson consists of Americans who are constantly harassed and abused by police. The black community responded predictably to the exoneration of the white policeman. The results were riots, looting, and the destruction of property.

This response hardened the whites in their view that black people are criminally inclined and a threat to the safety of the lives and properties of whites.

The issue has been cast as white-black racism.

Actually, the situation is far more serious than racism.

I can remember times when police in America were reliable. They had themselves under control and saw their role as helpful to citizens and investigators of crimes. They took care not to bring charges against innocent people and to kill citizens without cause. Police would put their lives on line in order to avoid making a mistake in the use of their power.

Those times are gone forever. The police have been militarized, especially after 9/11, but even before. Police are taught to regard the public, especially any suspect or traffic offender as a potential threat to the police. The new rule taught to police is to apply violence to the suspect or offender in order to protect the police officer, and to question suspects only after they are safely secured, it they are still alive after being beaten, tasered, or shot.

This police training, together with police incompetence, which is difficult to understand in these days of GPS addresses, results in massive assaults in the homes of totally innocent American civilians who have done no wrong, but, despite their innocence, lose family members and pets to gratuitous police violence.

Taxpayers pay the police to investigate crimes, not to attack members of the public. But the police have been taught to see their role as protecting themselves from a criminally-inclined public, black and white.

Police reside in the executive branch, and since 9/11 the executive branch has succeeded in removing itself from accountability to law and to the Constitution. This unaccountability has filtered down to the militarized police who can now murder with impunity as their numerous murders of citizens are given a pass.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Back in your rabid cage.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-11-27   9:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

I can remember times when police in America were reliable. They had themselves under control and saw their role as helpful to citizens and investigators of crimes.

Especially in the 1970's and earlier and before we had to dial 911.

DWornock  posted on  2014-11-27   10:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

I can remember times when police in America were reliable. They had themselves under control and saw their role as helpful to citizens and investigators of crimes.

Ha!

And I remember a time when customer service actually helped people, when the military wasn't used to fight Ebola, when people like Sharpton were dressed in orange jump suits, rather than three piece suits.....and then came affirmative action and a hiring policy based on color rather than skill set.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-11-27   10:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

The police have been militarized, especially after 9/11, but even before.

Some folks need to recall how police were armed in the early 20th century: Thompson sub-machineguns, various .30 caliber semi-auto rifles, full auto BAR's, sawed-off shotguns, billy clubs of heavy/dense wood that packed a wallop (and saw frequent use on recalcitrants), etc.

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X-15  posted on  2014-11-27   10:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

Clearly this is a case of premeditated murder. Wilson said on TV, that he asked himself, “could he kill Brown legally?”

The answer was yes. So he did it. He made NO effort to avoid it.

While the boy had his head down (wounded with five bullets in him) – Wilson capped him – he shot Brown in the top of the head – he willfully did the kill. End of story.

johnj  posted on  2014-11-27   14:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: johnj (#5)

The moral to this story is don't bring fists to a gunfight, keep your hands to yourself, etc.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2014-11-27   15:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: johnj, *Post Of The Day* (#5)

@ #5

Well said.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-11-28   8:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: johnj (#5)

Clearly this is a case of premeditated murder. Wilson said on TV, that he asked himself, “could he kill Brown legally?”

The answer was yes. So he did it. He made NO effort to avoid it.

from that point of view, any attempt at self defense is premeditated murder. The motive counts as the differential. He did not set out to kill him because he is black which is the view of most black people.


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farmfriend  posted on  2014-11-29   16:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#8) (Edited)

I'm not sure that 15 seconds is all that premeditated...

Let's go with self-preservation as the motive.

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Lod  posted on  2014-11-29   17:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend, all (#8)

from that point of view, any attempt at self defense is premeditated murder. The motive counts as the differential. He did not set out to kill him because he is black which is the view of most black people.

Good post. Wouldn't any reasonable person believe they were justified in killing someone who was charging at them with the obvious intention to hurt or kill them? Even some of the black witnesses said that Brown was charging Wilson which is also what Brown claimed. And there is no video of the incident so I guess I will accept that as a fact until and unless proven otherwise.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-11-29   17:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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