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Title: Protests in St. Louis after teens ‘bash man to death’ with hammers
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://nypost.com/2014/12/01/teens- ... with-hammers-in-random-attack/
Published: Dec 1, 2014
Author: NY Post
Post Date: 2014-12-01 15:02:02 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1902
Comments: 152

Protests in St. Louis after teens ‘bash man to death’ with hammers

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Zemir Begic, 32, was driving around at 1:15 a.m. in the city’s Bevo Mill neighborhood when at least three juveniles approached his vehicle and began wailing on it with hammers, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.

The driver, a Bosnian immigrant, got out of the car to confront the assailants, who started yelling at him and pummeling him with the hammers, cops said. After the vicious onslaught was over, Begic — who had only been living in St. Louis for a year — was left battered and broken with injuries to his head, face, mouth and abdomen.

He later died at St. Louis University Hospital, according to the Dispatch.

Hammer attack victim Zemir Begic with his wife, ArijanaPhoto: Jennifer Elizabeth via GoFundMe

A 15-year-old and a 16-year-old male were both in police custody Sunday evening as investigators worked to determine a motive, the Dispatch reports. Police said they also know the name of a third suspect and now believe that a fourth was involved as well.

St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said Begic’s killing did not appear to be motivated by race or ethnicity.

“There is no indication that the gentleman last night was targeted because he was Bosnian,” he said. “There’s no indication that they knew each other.”

Suad Nuranjkovic, 49, was riding in the passenger seat of Begic’s car at the time the unprovoked assault began. The two were on their way home from a bar when the teens bombarded them near the intersection of Gravois Avenue and Itaska Street, according to the Dispatch.

As Begic stood up to the hooligans, Nuranjkovic was able to run across the street to safety.

“I was afraid that if one of them had a gun, they were going to shoot me,” he said. “So I didn’t know what to do.”

Nuranjkovic — who is also Bosnian — has no idea why they were singled out.

“I don’t know why this is happening to Bosnians,” he said. “We could go around and shoot people, too, but we just want peace.”

Outraged Bosnians took to the streets Sunday night to voice their grievances over Begic’s murder and also bring attention to other recent aggressive acts aimed at their people — including the 2013 fatal shooting of a 19-year-old immigrant in Bevo Mill, according to the Dispatch.

Demonstrators, including Begic’s sister Denisa, marched to the location of the heinous hammer attack and called for more to be done to protect the Bosnian community from violence.

“I hope justice is served for my brother because he didn’t deserve this at all,” Denisa said. “I don’t know what to think of it. It’s so wrong what they did.”


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Nope, this isn't about race you terribly dumb f**ks.

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#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

that is very sad and a shame that the guy acted so irrationally in the event of a hammer attack. he shoudlve gotten out only if he were armed or he should have floored it.

even my young female family members in the aftermath of the ferguson non indictment. they told me that the news showed there may be riots and that blacks were blocking the LA freeways. I told them that if they were menaced or surrounded by blacks to floor it and get away. that is the only sane move. and I recounted stories of the Rodney king riots in LA after I had watched Reginald denny get his brain bashed in on national tv. incredible, ill never forget it. & still mention it any time things of this sort happen again. only an idiot would 'play around' at a time like this.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull (#8)

that is very sad and a shame that the guy acted so irrationally in the event of a hammer attack. he shoudlve gotten out only if he were armed or he should have floored it.

That is beyond credulity.

Unworthy of response.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-01   16:26:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#10)

It's coming, it's coming:

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X-15  posted on  2014-12-01   16:35:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#12)

The victim in this case wasn't the 'mean one,' he was irrational and crazy, moronic, to get out of a car when three niggers with hammers were attacking him.

WTF kind of retard does something like that, seriously?

I hope cynicom doesn't teach his kin to do stupid, retarded, insane shit like that.

anyone who would even ever consider doing something so crazy has no street smarts. and that is sad.

there is a time for meekness and a time for battle. in the middle of a nigger riot, meekness is not an option.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   16:39:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#14)

He was no doubt conditioned to see "black youths" as humble-yet-oppressed waifs in the street. Such is the poison of political correctness.

X-15  posted on  2014-12-01   16:41:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#15)

It sickens a sane person, to read the length to which a white guilter will go to continue their own path of hatred.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-01   16:44:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#16)

It sickens a sane person, to read the length to which a white guilter will go to continue their own path of hatred.

you sound like someone who's never gotten out much. I asked, have you ever taught anyone how to fight, or how to defend themselves in a black neighborhood?

You've probably never been been to a black neighborhood.

I on the other hand, grew up in a white neighborhood that turned black. No one's ever touched me, so pay attention and you will maybe learn something.

You talk this bullshit about 'white guilt' yet at the same time wring your hands when people defend themselves. you relate to this moron who got killed by niggers. for what reason, only you know. Or, you probably have gotten your ass kicked a time or two by niggers and relate to the wimps? Is that it, cyni??

only a retard is getting attacked by niggers and then gets out unarmed and gets killed.

Or. maybe youre the white guilter who thought he deserved it?

you always post that your relatives are jews.

maybe your jew relatives don't know anything about self defense?

My relatives aren't jews. theyre Italian, germans, irish and English. My great great grandpa was a judge in TX who was a well known Indian fighter. He is written about in books. So yeah we're not the bend over type like you seem to relate to so fondly. Like I told JT: this case was Darwin's law in action. some poor sap foreigner who was never taught to defend himself.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   19:51:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan, Cynicom (#36)

I on the other hand, grew up in a white neighborhood that turned black. No one's ever touched me, so pay attention and you will maybe learn something.

Such a condescending tone.

Take a step back Artisan. Both Cynicom and I grew up in NYC long before you were born and before LBJ signed the legislation that empowered Sharpton & company. If you keep an open mind we can help you thru this multicultural maze you are trapped in.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-01   20:05:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

Such a condescending tone.

Take a step back Artisan. Both Cynicom and I grew up in NYC long before you were born and before LBJ signed the legislation that empowered Sharpton & company. If you keep an open mind we can help you thru this multicultural maze you are trapped in.

the guy doesn't even make sense. he makes the outrageous claim that I'm a "white guilter" because I explain that it's unwise to get out of your car unarmed when being attacked by a mob of niggers with hammers?

WTF kind of loon would do that? SURELY you would never teach your kin to do that. That is how this conversation began, I asked him that specific question.

and let's stick not to Sharpton who amounts to nothing other than a black guy in a suit on tv. I'm talking about being in actual surrounded by niggers with bats and pipes.

I think you've been in street riots with niggers, but if cynicom has ever been in a street riot with niggers, he's never mentioned it that ive seen. I hope he would not suggest that people like Reginald denny who got his brains bashed in, would leave his door unlocked and try to reason with the savages.

I'm pretty simple person. if we're talking about how to survive being attacked by a nigger mob, lets get to it. I am willing to listen. leave the tv pundits out of it because I don't see how a commie agitator guy on tv in a suit helps people defend themselves against niggers in the actual street.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   20:14:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Artisan (#42)

Maybe 3% of the colonists took the fight to the Redcoats. Do you think that 3% of Americans, today, would be willing to take the fight to a racial insurrection?? I say no, what happened in Ferguson is a glaring example of the triumph of vandals with various JBT's tacitly allowing carnage and mayhem. We live in sad times.

X-15  posted on  2014-12-01   20:24:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: X-15 (#44)

I don't know what percentage would fight in a 'racial insurrection.' I don't know if that will ever happen, but like anything, if it did, I think it will be every man (along with his family and core group) for himself.

all I know is what ive experienced with the Rodney king riots, a few other riots and living in a white neighborhood that had turned black in the 70s and 80s when the ROOTS miniseries was on tv when i was a kid and that program drove all the blacks literally ape shit.

I got a very big family and none of us were ever killed, or shot, beat, etc. the Catholic theology of the right to self defense is very clear, and very engrained, & we never had no problem.

What I've never heard of, before this thread, is someone who suggested that getting out of a car unarmed surrounded by niggers with hammers who are already attacking you is somehow brave or noble. You have to be armed up equally to your opponent and be prepared properly to fight, not be a fool who will get killed. Such a notion is totally insane and does not even make sense. Never in my life have I heard of such a thing, to lay down for a group of savage thugs out to rob and kill you. That is TWILIGHT ZONE stuff.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   20:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Artisan (#45)

I don't know what percentage would fight in a 'racial insurrection.' I don't know if that will ever happen

Oh it did my friend. The NYPD suppressed *communist upheavals* in the late 60s and early 70s. I know how the word communist irritates you but it's appropriate. I was there and I saw it up front and personal and I'm happy I cracked their heads.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-12-01   21:38:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

Oh it did my friend. The NYPD suppressed *communist upheavals* in the late 60s and early 70s. I know how the word communist irritates you but it's appropriate. I was there and I saw it up front and personal and I'm happy I cracked their heads.

I think we're on the same page about the commies, I just wasn't relating them to the mobs in the streets. Even though the mobs are encouraged & provoked by the commies on tv, other than that I see it as essentially two different topics. A mob is a mob no matter who inspires their criminal behavior, the thing is to watch out for yourself and come out alive.

I mean this Bosnian immigrant wasn't going to go have a discussion of sociology and Trotsky and marx to these maniacs who killed him.

if there's a mob of niggers around your car, shoot them or run them down. that's all I said to begin this waste of time topic, and I stick to it.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   21:54:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull (#53)

Art, difficult to have it both ways.

Unless my memory is incorrect, on other threads I sensed an attitude that police should not do their jobs either. Run over them is ok but dont shoot them?

Either way, I think we can agree, we have seen nothing yet. One day the cities will burn and the streets run red.

That time perhaps is just around the corner?

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-01   22:04:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom, jethro tull, all (#56)

I never said that cops shouldn't do their jobs. In this case I said that the grand jury looked at plenty of evidence and even the black witnesses said brown had it coming, he attacked the cop.

In general, I don't like cops, because they spend most of their time in revenue schemes and are for the most part, trigger happy power-mad goons. and cops argue in court for decades that they aren't responsible for protecting anyone. The supreme court has ruled in their favor.

so youre right that im not a fan of cops in general.

Here is a video of a driver who lived because they drove thru the violent mob. I don't think the driver should have been arrested like the news said. They did nothing wrong.

Artisan  posted on  2014-12-01   22:18:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Artisan (#57)

Here's a video from behind. Doesn't show the person getting run over, but it looks to me like the driver was seriously at fault, and basically charged the crowd with his vehicle. This happened in Minneapolis, btw, not Fergeson.

Dakmar  posted on  2014-12-01   22:30:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59)

Above clip demonstrates the crucial importance of achieving ramming speed prior to mob engagement.

Dakmar  posted on  2014-12-01   22:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Dakmar (#60)

Above clip demonstrates the crucial importance of achieving ramming speed prior to mob engagement.

Quite correct. One should never be doing less than about ten miles an hour when running through a mob. If they pack up sufficiently to slow you down much below that, give it more gas.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-12-02   10:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach (#63)

Taking names of those using racist sarcasm.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-12-02   10:05:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#64)

Taking names of those using racist sarcasm.

I am quite sure there are no rayciss on this board.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-12-02   10:23:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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