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Title: Protests in St. Louis after teens ‘bash man to death’ with hammers
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URL Source: http://nypost.com/2014/12/01/teens- ... with-hammers-in-random-attack/
Published: Dec 1, 2014
Author: NY Post
Post Date: 2014-12-01 15:02:02 by Jethro Tull
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" a=" A" a="a" according="according" attack="attack" beat="beat" death="death" group="group" hammers="hammers" in="in" louis="Louis" man="man" of="of" on="on" police. Zemir Begic, 32, was driving around at 1:15 a.m. in the city’s Bevo Mill neighborhood when at least three juveniles approached his vehicle and began wailing on it with hammers, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. The driver, a Bosnian immigrant, got out of the car to confront the assailants, who started yelling at him and pummeling him with the hammers, cops said. After the vicious onslaught was over, Begic — who had only been living in St. Louis for a year — was left battered and broken with injuries to his head, face, mouth and abdomen. He later died at St. Louis University Hospital, according to the Dispatch. Hammer attack victim Zemir Begic with his wife, ArijanaPhoto: Jennifer Elizabeth via GoFundMe A 15-year-old and a 16-year-old male were both in police custody Sunday evening as investigators worked to determine a motive, the Dispatch reports. Police said they also know the name of a third suspect and now believe that a fourth was involved as well. St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said Begic’s killing did not appear to be motivated by race or ethnicity. “There is no indication that the gentleman last night was targeted because he was Bosnian,” he said. “There’s no indication that they knew each other.” Suad Nuranjkovic, 49, was riding in the passenger seat of Begic’s car at the time the unprovoked assault began. The two were on their way home from a bar when the teens bombarded them near the intersection of Gravois Avenue and Itaska Street, according to the Dispatch. As Begic stood up to the hooligans, Nuranjkovic was able to run across the street to safety. “I was afraid that if one of them had a gun, they were going to shoot me,” he said. “So I didn’t know what to do.” Nuranjkovic — who is also Bosnian — has no idea why they were singled out. “I don’t know why this is happening to Bosnians,” he said. “We could go around and shoot people, too, but we just want peace.” Outraged Bosnians took to the streets Sunday night to voice their grievances over Begic’s murder and also bring attention to other recent aggressive acts aimed at their people — including the 2013 fatal shooting of a 19-year-old immigrant in Bevo Mill, according to the Dispatch. Demonstrators, including Begic’s sister Denisa, marched to the location of the heinous hammer attack and called for more to be done to protect the Bosnian community from violence. “I hope justice is served for my brother because he didn’t deserve this at all,” Denisa said. “I don’t know what to think of it. It’s so wrong what they did.” Poster Comment: Nope, this isn't about race you terribly dumb f**ks. Protests in St. Louis after teens ‘bash man to death’ with hammers
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"We ditun know dat cracka-ass honky was from Boston". - unnamed perp corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Get out of my car. Right.. I'd have been scraping nigger roadkill out of my wheelwells.
I noted the major media outlets all decided not to banner any of this. Rotten bastards.
I ain't buying that. Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
Obama's sons advance Diversity and the Cultural Revolution one White body at a time.....nothing to see, move along..... Proof it wasn't racially motivated:
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said Begic’s killing did not appear to be motivated by race or ethnicity.
#5. To: Cynicom (#3)
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull (#4)
Cops said was not cause man was from Bosnia???????? Hey stupid...THE MAN WAS WHITE....get it?????? Those little youts never heard of that place but they know a honky when they see one. White guilters will wake up one day. I ain't buying that.
#7. To: X-15 (#5)
Obviously the Bosnian from Boston irritated the hammer kids for being out at night. Those little youts only did what they have heard at home.
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
that is very sad and a shame that the guy acted so irrationally in the event of a hammer attack. he shoudlve gotten out only if he were armed or he should have floored it. even my young female family members in the aftermath of the ferguson non indictment. they told me that the news showed there may be riots and that blacks were blocking the LA freeways. I told them that if they were menaced or surrounded by blacks to floor it and get away. that is the only sane move. and I recounted stories of the Rodney king riots in LA after I had watched Reginald denny get his brain bashed in on national tv. incredible, ill never forget it. & still mention it any time things of this sort happen again. only an idiot would 'play around' at a time like this.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#9. To: Cynicom (#6)
Yeah, and that is all they saw. He was white so he was going to pay for them "being a slave for 400 years" and all the bad things whitey did to Kunta Kinte. THE MAN WAS WHITE....get it??????
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#10. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull (#8)
That is beyond credulity. Unworthy of response. that is very sad and a shame that the guy acted so irrationally in the event of a hammer attack. he shoudlve gotten out only if he were armed or he should have floored it.
#11. To: Cynicom, x-15 (#10)
what do you teach your kin to do in the case of a viscious attack by niggers? politely try to debate them? LoL. Ill tell you what to do. Because I grew up around niggers and I have never gotten hurt. This is what you do: defend yourself. shoot them and live, or floor it, and live. And for the record I do not consider all blacks niggers. I have actually had black roomates and black coworkers and didn't have a problem with them. however, I was also not brainwashed into believing nigger is a foribidden word, just the same as 'gay' is not used to describe a faggot sodomite. I call a nigger a nigger, who cares if anyones offended. The victim in this case indeed acted extremely irrationally and stupidly when he got out unarmed to do whatever he had out of his mind with three viscious assailants with hammers who were already attacking him. the end. ;-)
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#12. To: Cynicom (#10)
It's coming, it's coming: 
-Alex Kurtagic
#13. To: Artisan (#11)
Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared. what do you teach your kin to do in the case of a viscious attack by niggers?
-Alex Kurtagic
#14. To: X-15 (#12)
The victim in this case wasn't the 'mean one,' he was irrational and crazy, moronic, to get out of a car when three niggers with hammers were attacking him. WTF kind of retard does something like that, seriously? I hope cynicom doesn't teach his kin to do stupid, retarded, insane shit like that. anyone who would even ever consider doing something so crazy has no street smarts. and that is sad. there is a time for meekness and a time for battle. in the middle of a nigger riot, meekness is not an option.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#15. To: Artisan (#14)
He was no doubt conditioned to see "black youths" as humble-yet-oppressed waifs in the street. Such is the poison of political correctness.
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: X-15 (#15)
It sickens a sane person, to read the length to which a white guilter will go to continue their own path of hatred.
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
However, there is speculation that had he been a black Bosnian he would still be breathing.... “There is no indication that the gentleman last night was targeted because he was Bosnian,”
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#18. To: abraxas (#17)
Scan the major media. Not a hint of it can I find. Just happenstance, right? However, there is speculation that had he been a black Bosnian he would still be breathing....
#19. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#16)
From the article: 'There is no indication that the gentleman last night was targeted because he was Bosnian,' (police spokesman) Dotson said. 'There’s no indication that they knew each other.' Who are they fooling? How can those niggers know he is "Bosnian"? The apes saw a White man: that makes it open season. Cops are looking for a motive? Well why don't they go in plainclothes through a ghetto and they will find the motive, either through a gang beating or getting stabbed or shot. The motive is simple: he was White and they are niggers. The 'hispanic' thing is also crap. Probably lighter skinned niggers. Do hispanics run around with niggers in the America? It is just a deflection to make it look as if isn't more nigger thuggery.
-Alex Kurtagic
#20. To: Obnoxicated (#2)
Kill them like the chickens. ;) I'd have been scraping nigger roadkill out of my wheelwells.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#21. To: X-15 (#12)
Reminds of working the Grateful Dead the World Music Theater in Tinley Park, Illinois. The first night, the crowd rushed the fence on top of the hill. There were so many people coming over the fence it looked like a waterfall. The next night they had the dogs out there. "Arf, arf. I want a piece of a Dead Head." ROTFLMAO! Great graphic.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#22. To: X-15 (#19)
When I was 15, I was home in bed not walking around the streets carrying a hammer. I am surprised these little youts were carrying a work tool, such is foreign to them.
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
I am surprised these little youts were carrying a work tool, such is foreign to them. So you're absolutely ruling out the possibility that they had tape measures clipped to their belts and carpenters pencils in their shirt pockets?? ...walking around the streets carrying a hammer.
-Alex Kurtagic
#24. To: Artisan (#14)
There was a time in America, before you were born, that a man would defend himself rather than run. That America was far better than this version and this poor Bosnian didn't get the memo. The savages here are the Black animals pushed forward by the Alinskyites. The victim in this case wasn't the 'mean one,' he was irrational and crazy, moronic, to get out of a car when three niggers with hammers were attacking him.
#25. To: X-15 (#23)
How would they ever know what a pencil is for? Good heavens. So you're absolutely ruling out the possibility that they had tape measures clipped to their belts and carpenters pencils in their shirt pockets??
#26. To: X-15 (#19)
Thanks X, that jumped out at me also. Who are they fooling? How can those niggers know he is "Bosnian"?
#27. To: Cynicom (#25) (Edited)
You're such a cynic :) For all we know they might have been on the way to join Jimmy Carter (POTUS, now world-renowned amateur carpenter) in another exciting episode of a Habitat For Humanity house-raising.
-Alex Kurtagic
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
Thanks X, that jumped out at me also. Bosnian from Boston. If you note, I think his wife said he gave his life to protect her???? He should have run and left her on her own. Typical stupid white male. Who are they fooling? How can those niggers know he is "Bosnian"?
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
The fool wanted to show that he was a tough guy and so he challenged three teens of the Negro race and paid for it with his life.
#30. To: DWornock (#29)
Got it. So the fool should have cowered to the Negros and prayed they didn't kill him anyway. Oaf. The fool wanted to show that he was a tough guy and so he challenged three teens of the Negro race and paid for it with his life.
#31. To: Cynicom (#25)
Good heavens. LOL!!! That was a good one. How would they ever know what a pencil is for?
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#32. To: Cynicom (#28)
He should have run and left her on her own. Typical stupid white male. Can you believe the gutless young Whites who inhabit this 4um? I pray they reap what they sow. If you note, I think his wife said he gave his life to protect her????
#33. To: abraxas (#17)
Bingo, A.... However, there is speculation that had he been a black Bosnian he would still be breathing....
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
I didn't suggest he run, I said floor it as in run them down if theyre in front of your car, or shoot them. a person doesn't 'defend themselves' against savages with hammers by getting out and pussyfooting around. As X15 said above, he must've thought they were innocent waifs he could reason with,. this is a clear case of Darwin's law in action. survival of the fittest. what kind of man would teach his son to take a nerf football to a gunfight? That is very squirly. There was a time in America, before you were born, that a man would defend himself rather than run. That America was far better than this version and this poor Bosnian didn't get the memo. The savages here are the Black animals pushed forward by the Alinskyites.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#35. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull (#34)
Perhaps Wilson thot Brown was just an innocent waif???? Reasoning in opposite directions on a common issue is rather disengenuous. he must've thought they were innocent waifs he could reason with,.
#36. To: Cynicom (#16)
you sound like someone who's never gotten out much. I asked, have you ever taught anyone how to fight, or how to defend themselves in a black neighborhood? You've probably never been been to a black neighborhood. I on the other hand, grew up in a white neighborhood that turned black. No one's ever touched me, so pay attention and you will maybe learn something. You talk this bullshit about 'white guilt' yet at the same time wring your hands when people defend themselves. you relate to this moron who got killed by niggers. for what reason, only you know. Or, you probably have gotten your ass kicked a time or two by niggers and relate to the wimps? Is that it, cyni?? only a retard is getting attacked by niggers and then gets out unarmed and gets killed. Or. maybe youre the white guilter who thought he deserved it? you always post that your relatives are jews. maybe your jew relatives don't know anything about self defense? My relatives aren't jews. theyre Italian, germans, irish and English. My great great grandpa was a judge in TX who was a well known Indian fighter. He is written about in books. So yeah we're not the bend over type like you seem to relate to so fondly. Like I told JT: this case was Darwin's law in action. some poor sap foreigner who was never taught to defend himself. It sickens a sane person, to read the length to which a white guilter will go to continue their own path of hatred.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#37. To: Cynicom (#35)
i'm not talking about Wilson or brown, i'm talking about this idiot who was getting attacked by niggers with hammers, didn't know how to defend himself, and got killed when he got out to try to talk to them. I explained several times to you that people have to be taught how to deal with groupthink, savagery, and black crowds. do you know how such a dynamic works? I do. that is why im still here, unlike the dead Bosnian. And you know whats sort of funny? I've told this story before here. I've actually been surrounded by a group of 8-10 niggers and cholos who had bats and pipes surrounding me and my car. guess what? I said "get away from my car you fucking niggers." guess what else? they didn't touch me, because my pop and brothers taught me well.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#38. To: Artisan (#34) (Edited)
There is something those ghetto rats never thought of (assuming they ever actually do any thinking). If they had any idea the kind of mayhem the Bosnians would rain down on their empty skulls they wouldn't have picked that fight. I suspect they might learn a hard lesson over this one. " With a population estimated to be around 70,000, St Louis has the largest community of Bosnians outside of Bosnia-Herzegovina. "
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#39. To: Artisan, Cynicom (#36)
Such a condescending tone. Take a step back Artisan. Both Cynicom and I grew up in NYC long before you were born and before LBJ signed the legislation that empowered Sharpton & company. If you keep an open mind we can help you thru this multicultural maze you are trapped in. I on the other hand, grew up in a white neighborhood that turned black. No one's ever touched me, so pay attention and you will maybe learn something.
#40. To: Artisan (#36)
You've probably never been been to a black neighborhood. Liberal use of the word...YOU...often puts the writer in a bad position. Jethro and I both are expatriates of New York City. If it matters, I also did time in Baltimore, Frisco and a few other nice places. Black neighborhood??? Lived in them, worked in them. That is why I shed NYC, moved into the hills. Been there did that, long time ago. you sound like someone who's never gotten out much. I asked, have you ever taught anyone how to fight, or how to defend themselves in a black neighborhood?
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
At 83, I feel like some kid is trying to show me how to tie my shoes. Just damn.
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
Take a step back Artisan. Both Cynicom and I grew up in NYC long before you were born and before LBJ signed the legislation that empowered Sharpton & company. If you keep an open mind we can help you thru this multicultural maze you are trapped in. the guy doesn't even make sense. he makes the outrageous claim that I'm a "white guilter" because I explain that it's unwise to get out of your car unarmed when being attacked by a mob of niggers with hammers? WTF kind of loon would do that? SURELY you would never teach your kin to do that. That is how this conversation began, I asked him that specific question. and let's stick not to Sharpton who amounts to nothing other than a black guy in a suit on tv. I'm talking about being in actual surrounded by niggers with bats and pipes. I think you've been in street riots with niggers, but if cynicom has ever been in a street riot with niggers, he's never mentioned it that ive seen. I hope he would not suggest that people like Reginald denny who got his brains bashed in, would leave his door unlocked and try to reason with the savages. I'm pretty simple person. if we're talking about how to survive being attacked by a nigger mob, lets get to it. I am willing to listen. leave the tv pundits out of it because I don't see how a commie agitator guy on tv in a suit helps people defend themselves against niggers in the actual street. Such a condescending tone.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#43. To: Cynicom (#41)
Bingo
#44. To: Artisan (#42)
Maybe 3% of the colonists took the fight to the Redcoats. Do you think that 3% of Americans, today, would be willing to take the fight to a racial insurrection?? I say no, what happened in Ferguson is a glaring example of the triumph of vandals with various JBT's tacitly allowing carnage and mayhem. We live in sad times.
-Alex Kurtagic
#45. To: X-15 (#44)
I don't know what percentage would fight in a 'racial insurrection.' I don't know if that will ever happen, but like anything, if it did, I think it will be every man (along with his family and core group) for himself. all I know is what ive experienced with the Rodney king riots, a few other riots and living in a white neighborhood that had turned black in the 70s and 80s when the ROOTS miniseries was on tv when i was a kid and that program drove all the blacks literally ape shit. I got a very big family and none of us were ever killed, or shot, beat, etc. the Catholic theology of the right to self defense is very clear, and very engrained, & we never had no problem. What I've never heard of, before this thread, is someone who suggested that getting out of a car unarmed surrounded by niggers with hammers who are already attacking you is somehow brave or noble. You have to be armed up equally to your opponent and be prepared properly to fight, not be a fool who will get killed. Such a notion is totally insane and does not even make sense. Never in my life have I heard of such a thing, to lay down for a group of savage thugs out to rob and kill you. That is TWILIGHT ZONE stuff.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#46. To: Artisan (#45)
You have to be armed up equally to your opponent and be prepared properly to fight
-Alex Kurtagic
#47. To: Artisan (#45) (Edited)
The "ownership economy" pretty much did the same thing to my neighborhood. Never buy a house anywhere near apartments that take Sec-8. Not sure about other cities, but it seems like the tearing down of of high rise public housing projects in the 80s/90s was like knocking down a dam, flooding entire cities with the undertow. Zemir Begic may have been naive, but he does not deserve the derision you and others are flinging. What kind of evil bastards roam in packs and attack random passersby with freaking hammers? all I know is what ive experienced with the Rodney king riots, a few other riots and living in a white neighborhood that had turned black in the 70s and 80s when the ROOTS miniseries was on tv when i was a kid and that program drove all the blacks literally ape shit.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#48. To: Cynicom (#41)
You haven't started doddering yet, I take it. :)
#49. To: Artisan (#45)
Oh it did my friend. The NYPD suppressed *communist upheavals* in the late 60s and early 70s. I know how the word communist irritates you but it's appropriate. I was there and I saw it up front and personal and I'm happy I cracked their heads. I don't know what percentage would fight in a 'racial insurrection.' I don't know if that will ever happen
#50. To: Dakmar (#47)
I wasn't trying to deride the victim. It started out with a perfectly normal comment in post 8 where I said Cynicom then acted offended and replied "That is beyond credulity. Unworthy of response." I replied "what do you teach your kin to do in the case of a viscious attack by niggers? politely try to debate them? LoL. Ill tell you what to do. Because I grew up around niggers and I have never gotten hurt. This is what you do: defend yourself. shoot them and live, or floor it, and live..." He then started babbling insulting remarks like "insane" and "white guilter" because I stated something which any normal white man would know, and that is how to defend oneself. Even though I maintain a very EXTREMELY nice online persona, (Much, much nicer than I am in person) once in a great while I don't generally respond nicely to insults.- particularly if the insulter's argument sounds deranged and lacking any sense or logic whatsoever. why is it a "white guilter" when I say that people should learn how to defend themselves from niggers?? I then asked when he's ever defended himself against niggers, never any reply. ever. That is why I don't believe he's ever dealt with it. Maybe just walked around in a tie at his government job and kept his head down. No one I know has ever worked for the government, I come from anti- government stock. like I said, he always says he has a jew family, so maybe it's a cultural thing, I just don't relate to whoever/whatever he is or may be. I don't speak in riddles, im very straightforward. I thought this conversation was about nigger mobs with hammers. All I know is what I've been repeating that I don't know why is so hard to understand. You don't get out in a riot full of niggers, unarmed. Only an insane fool would do that. If people here would advocate to teach their kids to get out of their car and surrender to mobs of niggers with hammers, or think you can reason with them, that is insane and very bad advice. Zemir Begic may have been naive, but he does not deserve the derision you and others are flinging. What kind of evil bastards roam in packs and attack random passersby with freaking hammers?
"that is very sad and a shame that the guy acted so irrationally in the event of a hammer attack. he shoudlve gotten out only if he were armed or he should have floored it."
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#51. To: Artisan (#50)
I did too. I guess the question is, do white cops have the same right to self defense as Bosniaks? I thought this conversation was about nigger mobs with hammers
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#52. To: Obnoxicated, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#48)
Dribbling yes, doddering no. I usually try to be polite and patient, however these are times that try mens souls. For instance, long ago, working in a black neighborhood, the only white, I was surrounded by six blacks, one with a knife, threatening to cut my throat. THERE WAS NO RUNNING AWAY, LEAVING, DRIVING OFF, HE WAS GOING TO CUT MY THROAT BECAUSE I WAS WHITE. What saved me? Garage on corner had blacks working there, where I worked, huge black man came out of garage wiping his hands, quietly said to the one with a knife, "put the knife away or I will run it down your throat and the rest of you be gone". Art says I dont get out much. True not any more. Here in the hills we have no police force, oddly enough only a few blacks that moved out of the city to get away from their brothers. You haven't started doddering yet, I take it. :)
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
I think we're on the same page about the commies, I just wasn't relating them to the mobs in the streets. Even though the mobs are encouraged & provoked by the commies on tv, other than that I see it as essentially two different topics. A mob is a mob no matter who inspires their criminal behavior, the thing is to watch out for yourself and come out alive. I mean this Bosnian immigrant wasn't going to go have a discussion of sociology and Trotsky and marx to these maniacs who killed him. if there's a mob of niggers around your car, shoot them or run them down. that's all I said to begin this waste of time topic, and I stick to it. Oh it did my friend. The NYPD suppressed *communist upheavals* in the late 60s and early 70s. I know how the word communist irritates you but it's appropriate. I was there and I saw it up front and personal and I'm happy I cracked their heads.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#54. To: Artisan (#53)
Agree, and despite what many of the BROWNIES on 4um have claimed, I try my best not to use the word nigger. I think a search of my posts will confirm this. if there's a mob of niggers around your car, shoot them or run them down.
#55. To: Cynicom (#52)
I usually try to be polite and patient, however these are times that try mens souls. Art says I dont get out much. True not any more. The thing I was trying to ask you was why you were so insulted when I gave the very good advice 'when surrounded by a mob full of niggers attacking your car, the sane options are to shoot them or run them down.' You then called me an insane white guilter because of that, which was very rude and inappropriate, and it did not make sense. So if I was meaner than usual in response, it's because sometimes one attracts the responses they seek. no hard feelings.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#56. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull (#53)
Art, difficult to have it both ways. Unless my memory is incorrect, on other threads I sensed an attitude that police should not do their jobs either. Run over them is ok but dont shoot them? Either way, I think we can agree, we have seen nothing yet. One day the cities will burn and the streets run red. That time perhaps is just around the corner?
#57. To: Cynicom, jethro tull, all (#56)
I never said that cops shouldn't do their jobs. In this case I said that the grand jury looked at plenty of evidence and even the black witnesses said brown had it coming, he attacked the cop. In general, I don't like cops, because they spend most of their time in revenue schemes and are for the most part, trigger happy power-mad goons. and cops argue in court for decades that they aren't responsible for protecting anyone. The supreme court has ruled in their favor. so youre right that im not a fan of cops in general. Here is a video of a driver who lived because they drove thru the violent mob. I don't think the driver should have been arrested like the news said. They did nothing wrong.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#58. To: Artisan (#57)
Art, the police, good bad or indifferent, are all that stand between society and anarchy. Most of us here have disdain for the police, the injustice system and government. However, the alternative is anarchy, whites using the blacks to bring down this country. Contradiction? No. Blacks are being used and their hatred for whitey blinds them from seeing the truth.
#59. To: Artisan (#57)
Here's a video from behind. Doesn't show the person getting run over, but it looks to me like the driver was seriously at fault, and basically charged the crowd with his vehicle. This happened in Minneapolis, btw, not Fergeson.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#60. To: All (#59)
Above clip demonstrates the crucial importance of achieving ramming speed prior to mob engagement.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#61. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, X-15 (#54)
I see the cowards at Fox finally put it on the net in the middle of the night. Bastards. They called them young thugs, not racists. Seems they had tried to do in another white an hour earlier.
#62. To: Artisan (#57) (Edited)
In '68, before you were born, this was the very last thing my classmates and I thought of. We were happy to have a job, Humility is your friend. In general, I don't like cops, because they spend most of their time in revenue schemes and are for the most part, trigger happy power-mad goons. and cops argue in court for decades that they aren't responsible for protecting anyone. The supreme court has ruled in their favor.
#63. To: Dakmar (#60)
Quite correct. One should never be doing less than about ten miles an hour when running through a mob. If they pack up sufficiently to slow you down much below that, give it more gas. Above clip demonstrates the crucial importance of achieving ramming speed prior to mob engagement.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#63)
Taking names of those using racist sarcasm.
#65. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom, Artisan, Jethro Tull (#63)
'Situational awareness' means never driving anywhere where the likelihood of your vehicle being mobbed by a troop of unruly baboons begging for handouts will catch you at unawares: 
-Alex Kurtagic
#66. To: Dakmar (#59)
So this shit happened here in my town. You know what happened? The guy in the car moved forward, the protestors jumped on his car. He panicked, and then drove through them. I am so sick to death of these people in my town saying that they have a right to obstruct traffic and cause mayhem in the streets over nothing. They prevented an ambulance from getting where it needed to. These useless eaters all deserved to be rounded up and carted off to jail because they should not have been in the streets without a permit. THERE WERE NO PERMITS ISSUED FOR THIS PROTEST. Here's another thing with regard to this mess. The driver is now being prosecuted. We are living in chaos. Nothing else. The inmates now run the asylum, and we're all being slowly driven mad.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#67. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Here is something on a positive note with regard to all of this. The families of these two Bosnians, they will not take this loss lightly. Crossing a Bosnian, is basically writing your own ticket to hell. If their families are connected, I guarantee that the families of these three perpetrators will bleed for what their children have done. Their children will be made to watch their families killed, and then they themselves will likely be murdered in prison. The Bosnian people are not folk to be trifled with, and if there is one consolation, there will be an industrious Bosnian that will more than likely be dutiful to family and murder each and every last member of these people's families.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#68. To: Cynicom (#64)
I am quite sure there are no rayciss on this board. Taking names of those using racist sarcasm.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#69. To: X-15 (#65)
LOL! Great picture to go along with the much needed message.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#70. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#67)
I have read that before, that the Bosnians were not to be trifled with. And the niggers who killed that one with the hammer just because he was white--if someone had told them he was a Bosnian they would have thought that meant he was from some upscale neighborhood of Boston--will probably regret their bad judgment. I sure hope so anyway. The Bosnian people are not folk to be trifled with, and if there is one consolation, there will be an industrious Bosnian that will more than likely be dutiful to family and murder each and every last member of these people's families.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#71. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#67)
You are so right, Tommy. My sisters were NYC public school teachers and before both retired they told me all about the Bosnian kids in their classrooms. They weren't the problem the minority kids were but they were fighters when provoked. My sisters loved them as they brought back memories of fearless American kids who are now sissified. Here is something on a positive note with regard to all of this. The families of these two Bosnians, they will not take this loss lightly
#72. To: Jethro Tull, All (#71)
In this bizarro world we live in we should have no expectation of safely walking or driving down a city street, but are assured that rioting, burning, and looting will be tolerated.... no, make that enabled if not encouraged.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
Humility is your friend. Yes humility is a great virtue especially since 'pride' is not only one of the '7 deadly sins' but is the primary sin which leads to all others. However I don't think you should characterize this bizarre exchange yesterday as a fault of lack of humility on my part. Now I know we're friends and I respect you but you know I do argue my point, so please don't take this personal. Here is what happened. a guy gets his brains bashed in with a hammer and dies. I have 'the nerve' to make a very benign comment and point out that here in LA, we know better on how to handle niggger mobs with pipes and the sane solution is not to try to talk to them sweetly in the street unarmed, because you may die. I said, either shoot them, or floor it. and live. You & cynicom both responded way out of left field. You claimed that confronting a nigger mob unarmed was somehow sharp or valiant, because by not confronting a nigger mob unarmed, that men today are somehow 'weak', sissies, or running away.' I asked, Wow JT, would you really teach your kids to confront a nigger mob unarmed? Would you teach them that that is a somehow 'valiant' or honorable thing to do(!!??) Surely not.(????) Cynicom replied to my advice on surviving a nigger mob and my advice of what I tell my young female teenaged relatives to BE AWARE that nigger mobs will rape and kill people in two seconds,. They're CONSCIOUS of this, and that is why they wont end up like the dead Bosnian. See the Reginald denny vid below? My relatives live in LA county where that occurred. they all know who RD is and have seen that video. After you replied to my common sense advice (basic right of self defense of how to survive a nigger mob) with derision for a yet unknown reason, Cynicom then said I was an insane white guilter for saying that 'only an idiot would confront a nigger mob in the street unarmed.' (/humility) well fuck that shit and both those bullshit replies to me. to this moment you have not explained in common language why in the fuck my advice of not confronting a nigger mob unarmed was in any way 'cowardice' or 'white guilter'. Those 2 replies were looney, bizarre, and nonsensical not to mention hostile. and anyone can see that. a non hostile reply would have been to say something like "Yes you're absolutely 100% correct that confronting a nigger mob unarmed in the street is insane, and it's great that you teach your young relatives about the true danger of nigger mobs, instead of allowing them to think what society tries to tell them, which is that black thugs and black mobs surrounding their cars are innocent and won't hurt them." a so-called 'white guilter' would not teach their relatives about the danger of nigger mobs. A white guilter would claim that nigger monbs don't exist, or that you can approach nigger mobs unarmed,, like the dead clueless Bosnian did. A white guilter would tell their children that you should try to reason and pontificte with nigger mobs. very bad, crazy advice. here is Reginald denny, who also didn't realize whata nigger mob would do!: In '68, before you were born, this was the very last thing my classmates and I thought of. We were happy to have a job,
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#74. To: Hmmmmm (#72)
Bruce, hello. I want to get together again before we age out :)
#75. To: Artisan (#73)
I'm not sure if you have kids, but they become independent rather quickly. I'd love my kids to be armed, but none have expressed an interest. Have yours? I asked, Wow JT, would you really teach your kids to confront a nigger mob unarmed? Would you teach them that that is a somehow 'valiant' or honorable thing to do(!!??) Surely not.(????)
#76. To: Hmmmmm, Jethro Tull (#72)
Maybe we need to rethink the criminalization of low-level thuggery/robbery? If it'll save another Mike Brown (who was just "keepin' it real").... 
-Alex Kurtagic
#77. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#66)
In Missouri, they might have ended up in a morgue for even walking down the center yellow lines in single file. In California, I think pedestrians have the legal right of way wherever they are in the street, which might have been a contributing factor there for why Reginald Denny's truck had to stop in park, unlike the Minneapolis car that kept driving. What a difference a State makes that way. all deserved to be rounded up and carted off to jail because they should not have been in the streets without a permit.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
Sorry, too late! I want to get together again before we age out :)
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#79. To: X-15 (#76)
That image should go viral! Unfortunately half the population thinks it is a valid argument.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#80. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
Of course! Only a fool acts like a tough guy when he is greatly outnumbered by equally tough Negros. He should have acted meek, respectful, and drove off as soon as possible. That is what I would have done. It is best to avoid fights because you might get injured or worse. I know the tendency is you want to teach them (Negros or whoever) a lesson. However, even if you win, they probably will not change and, even if they do, there are millions just like them and you can't change them all. Therefore, rather than putting oneself at risk, let other tough fools teach them a lesson. So the fool should have cowered to the Negros
#81. To: Hmmmmm (#79)
The photo *is* photoshopped, for sure. Agreed. That image should go viral!
Unfortunately half the population thinks it is a valid argument.
#82. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#66)
The driver is now being prosecuted. Only cops are allowed to kill when they are in fear for their lives. The rest of us, who have had no training in how to deal properly with such situations, are nonetheless held to a higher standard than trained cops are. The guy in the car moved forward, the protestors jumped on his car. He panicked, and then drove through them.
#83. To: DWornock (#80)
This poor Bosnian wasn't as yet accumulated to the ways of the beta Western males that surround him in this nation. In time he would have run, but he simply wasn't sufficiently frightened by Blacks last week. I actually remember days gone by where most American males would have done the same thing. Long before your time no doubt. Of course! Only a fool acts like a tough guy when he is greatly outnumbered by equally tough Negros.
#84. To: Pinguinite (#81)
Of course it is. In its altered state it is still a true representation of the demands of the black community. Don't even get me started on the police, you can defend yourself from, or avoid the black gangs much easier than the gang that wears blue. Wilson was a typical power mad thug, Wilson's department was grossly mismanaged. There are no heroes in Ferguson, only a nation of victims. The photo *is* photoshopped, for sure.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#85. To: Cynicom (#28)
No, he shouldn't have run and left his wife. He shouldn't have gotten out of the car at all. He should have floored it as Obnoxicated wrote up the thread. Very sad that he didn't realize the danger of leaving the safety of his car when being attacked by hammer wielding sociopaths. He should have run and left her on her own. Typical stupid white male.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#86. To: christine (#85)
Ahhhhhh! Sanity. Never underestimate the effectiveness of the 4000 pound weapon you're driving. He should have floored it as Obnoxicated wrote up the thread.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#87. To: X-15 (#76)
I read that that image was photoshopped. I haven't researched myself, so I don't for sure.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#88. To: christine (#87)
Yeah, it was photoshopped but it was a good one.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#89. To: christine (#87)
The original said "... every time he leaves home." In Brown's case they probably both are the same. I read that that image was photoshopped.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#90. To: Hmmmmm, christine (#86)
I'm thinking his reaction was sane for a Bosnian who hasn't been warned about the threat our Black brothers hold. There should be warning booklets handed out as Caucasian immigrants enter America, but that would be racist. And speaking of racism, it's astounding to me how the victim is being held at fault for his own murder but such is life here, in December, 2014. It's so over. Ahhhhhh! Sanity. Never underestimate the effectiveness of the 4000 pound weapon you're driving.
#91. To: Jethro Tull (#90)
I don't think anyone is blaming him. At least that's not my perception. It's tragic that the man apparently thought that he could stop the 3 violent monsters with hammers by himself. I think I would have run them over. ;)
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#92. To: christine (#91)
I know I would have. I think I would have run them over. ;)
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#93. To: christine, 4 (#91)
It isn't so much that he thought he could stop them, it's more that some men react spontaneously to danger (beta males need not apply). Some men run into a fire, some run away. Some protect their property & loved ones. Some drop everything and flee. As you know I love boxing and Bosnians are making a big splash in what remains of the sport. They show a fierce spirit and what this kid doesn't shock me having watched many fight to the last punch. I've also come to realize over the course of my lifetime that anyone who tells you what they would do in the face of eminent danger, is basically clueless. When adrenaline kicks in our actions become unknown - fight or flight in real time. I find it heartless how some people know both what they would do and how this kid should have behaved. Sad stuff.
#94. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
I know I would have been too terrified to get out of the car so I would hope that I would have the wherewithall to smash the gas pedal and mow the bastards down.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#95. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
Jethro... Damned straight...You got this one right, sadly too many people here do not really understand how they would react to a danger stimulus. The instinct to protect and survive cannot be weighed nor measured until the time arrives. I've also come to realize over the course of my lifetime that anyone who tells you what they would do in the face of eminent danger, is basically clueless. When adrenaline kicks in our actions become unknown - fight or flight in real time. I find it heartless how some people know both what they would do and how this kid should have behaved.
#96. To: christine (#94)
Read 'men' in my #93, with a special mention to beta males :P
#97. To: Cynicom (#95)
All the training, drilling, practicing, reading, studying, testing....it all goes out the window when the SHTF. At least that has been my experience. The instinct to protect and survive cannot be weighed nor measured until the time arrives.
#98. To: Jethro Tull (#97)
When one realizes they may die in the next two or three minutes, the adrenalin flows, MENTAL CLARITY SETS IN...there is no equivocation, strength is doubled, action taken. If you survive, you are a limp, wet rag. After two or three such episodes, you consider another line of work. All the training, drilling, practicing, reading, studying, testing....it all goes out the window when the SHTF. At least that has been my experience.
#99. To: Cynicom (#98) (Edited)
Ya' know, it wouldn't have been the first time I've seen coons scatter when confronted by one pissed off White man. This kid reacted, got unlucky and now second guessed. Oh well, it's all about diversity of thought (urp). It's no wonder White American males accept affirmative action, laugh as they are characterized as morons on TeeVee, and sit back as their jobs are outsources by lying politicians.
#100. To: Jethro Tull, All (#99) (Edited)
And some don't even get a chance to react. They just get dragged from their cars and are beaten to death with hammers. You'll remember these two. In the wake of now mainstream talking head Al Sharpton's hate-filled rabble rousing and incendiary incitement following the non-arrest of George Zimmerman, these apes carjacked a Sanford, Florida white man, Mark Slavin, repeatedly bashed Slavin’s head, face and body with a hammer, causing damage to 75% of his skull. The 50 year old victim also suffered a broken arm, a broken hand, a broken jaw, and caaught pneumonia while on life support. You won't find a picture of Mark Slavin on the internet, or anywhere else for that matter. His family was so afraid of publicity and the cockroaches that it might attract out of the woodwork that they managed to keep his photograph out of the papers. No national figures publically grieved for this man. We never even learned of his death until long, long after it happened, Mr. Slavin having lingered on for weeks in an Orlando ICU before succumbing to his injuries. It took some digging to find out that information because the family wanted that kept quiet too. You have to have a load of sympathy for them. Your heart goes out to them and the victim. He must have suffered terribly before he died. It took some digging too to find out what happened to the waste of space known as Julius Bender and Yahaziel Israel. It took two and a half years for the Florida courts to adjudicate these two. The one on the right, who looks like he ain't all there got 20 years. My grandma would say he came out about "half- cooked." The other murderer, the one that looks like he might be able to reliably spell his name got 25. Both were ordered to pay $18,000 in restitution, for what that's worth. Strange things happen when the likes of Alfred Charles Sharpton, Jr. comes to town. Anyway, this case bothered me no end when it occurred, and I just had to nose out what little was known about it & thought I'd share it with you all. This kid reacted,
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#101. To: randge (#100)
Those of us that have been up close and exposed to such vermin, all have the same opinion.
#102. To: randge (#100)
That is so, so sad and infuriating. Tragically, there are so many just like it.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#103. To: Jethro Tull, All (#0)
Here’s a video that was just released that proves these homicidal punks killed the Bosnian victim for the color of his skin. The St. Louis police chief is too scared to speak the truth about this murder being a hate crime, lest his city be vandalized and looted by black "protesters." www.thegatewaypundit.com/...ck-on-zemir-begic-blacks- screaming-kill-the-white-people/ Also, here’s a Ferguson black "activist" urging fellow blacks to attack Bosnian immigrants. www.thegatewaypundit.com/...rter-issues-death-threat- to-bosnian-immigrants-video/
#104. To: scrapper2 (#103)
Thanks...
#105. To: scrapper2, Cynicom (#103)
Yes, thanks for this, and one more thing. Do any of the posters who think this kid's behavior was dopey realize that it all began when one 15-year old raped the back of his car w/a hammer. He got out to confront the kid when the others appears and killed him. I'm not sure if this will change anyone's mind as I've come to realize that positions, once taken, rarely change even when additional facts are introduced.
#106. To: randge (#100)
I forgot about that one. Another "non hate crime" given the victim was White. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting bigger for me by the day, but I hope young, White men in this country don't lie down and let this racism run them over.
#107. To: Jethro Tull (#105)
Some of us were immersed in the race thing for many years. Those that have not, do not understand the hatred that fosters the urge to maim and kill white people. Liberal whites would say we hate black people, so it all balances out. Does it really?????? You and I know better. I have never seen or heard of roving white gangs in search of a black to kill, no white gangs looting and burning. I wish I could print here what we put up with in NYC, professional blacks and their value for white women. I'm not sure if this will change anyone's mind
#108. To: Jethro Tull (#106)
Breaking: ANOTHER HATE CRIME– 3 Black Men Pull Woman From Car, Ask If She’s Bosnian – BEAT HER Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, December 5, 2014, 5:30 PM On Friday morning there was another vicious attack on a Bosnian woman near Bevo Mill in South St. Louis. CBS Local reported: St. Louis police are investigating an alleged hate crime in the Bevo neighborhood early this morning that left a 26-year-old woman beaten. According to a police report, at about 5:30 a.m., a Bosnian woman was driving on the 4600 block of Lansdowne when three black males in their late-teens to early-20s stepped in front of her vehicle. When the woman tried to drive around them, the suspects reportedly pulled out a firearm, so she stopped the car. After hitting her windshield with a crowbar, the suspects pulled the woman from her car, threw her on the ground and kicked her. A suspect grabbed her purse, searched it, and told the others it was empty. All three suspects then fled the scene. Police say the woman said she thought the crime was racially motivated because the suspects asked her if she was Bosnian. More… The St. Louis Police Department released the following information, via StL Bosnians. Incident: Robbery 1st Location: 4600 block of Lansdowne Date/Time: 12/5/14 @ 05:25 Victim: 26-year old white female Suspect(s): Three unknown black males, late teens-early 20s The victim stated she was driving in the 4600 block of Lansdowne when three unknown suspects walked in front of her vehicle. When the victim attempted to drive around them, the suspects displayed a firearm and ordered her to stop her vehicle, to which she complied. One of the suspects then approached the driver’s side, produced an object, possibly a crowbar, and struck the windshield of her vehicle. The suspects then ordered the victim to exit her vehicle. The victim refused and one of the suspects pulled her out of the car. During this time, another suspect opened the passenger side door of the vehicle, went through the victim’s purse and stated that it was empty. One of the suspects then pushed the victim to the ground and kicked her. All three suspects then fled the scene. A passerby located the victim on the ground and contacted this department. EMS responded, however the victim refused further medical treatment and said she would respond to a hospital at a later time. As of now, officers are investigating this incident as a “bias crime” based on the victim’s account of the incident. The investigation is ongoing.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#109. To: randge, Cynicom, scrapper2, 4 (#108)
Wow, this is about to get real. The Bosnian's aren't going to let this go, nor should they.
#110. To: Cynicom (#107)
I didn't think about race issues in the past. But this President and AG have fanned the flames of racial unrest, specifically black hatred for whites. I don't understand it. What with Affirmative Action in force, blacks are getting unearned perks left right and center. What's their beef? Those that have not, do not understand the hatred that fosters the urge to maim and kill white people.
#111. To: randge (#108)
What the heck is a "bias crime?" As of now, officers are investigating this incident as a “bias crime”
#112. To: randge (#108)
I would like to know if this woman had, rather than trying to go around the perps, had mowed them down if she would have been charged and prosecuted. It should be self defense especially in light of the fact that it appears that white Bosnians are being targeted. I hope JT is correct that the Bosnian community will take matters into their own hands. Obviously, every single one of them needs to be armed.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#113. To: All (#109)
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#109)
Indeed. I didn't realize until now that as of 2012 over 4000 Bosnians have been naturalized in St. Louis in the past decade. Bosnians must have strong community in St. Louis, opening businesses and getting ahead. This must irk the usual suspect, generational EBT folks. www.stlbosnians.com/4099-...is-in-the-past-ten-years/ Just saying'... The Bosnian's aren't going to let this go, nor should they.
#115. To: scrapper2 (#114)
listen to the youtube that JT posted. This must irk the usual suspect, generational EBT folks.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#116. To: christine (#112)
My guess is that she'd be charged with manslaughter in light of the St. Louis City Fathers worried about Ferguson redux. But no jury would convict her under the circumstances. Re: the Bosnian community - as newly minted US citizens, they can/should apply for gun permits.
#117. To: scrapper2 (#110)
It's all about decades of anti-White conditioning, coupled with government stepping in for fathers who have no ability or desire to function in a traditional family unit. What's their beef?
#118. To: scrapper2 (#110)
Black hatred for whites has always existed. The difference being that in the past it was mostly controlled, now it is encouraged by blacks and whites. Race baiters always cry the same lament, blacks have a right to hate because of the past. Until one has had blacks threaten to kill them, for nothing, they cannot say they understand their hatred. I didn't think about race issues in the past.
#119. To: Jethro Tull (#117)
This week black man 51 was ordered to pay child support for his latest offspring. He has 26 kids by 20 women. I think he is currently in TX. It's all about decades of anti-White conditioning, coupled with government stepping in for fathers who have no ability or desire to function in a traditional family unit.
#120. To: Jethro Tull (#113)
Holy shit, Shirley! Apparently them Bosnians really fucked shit up for the Blakz. Just wait 'til the bruthas find out about what's been goin' on with the Wets. It'll be on like Donkey Kong! Bring it. Now.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#121. To: Esso (#120)
how're things??
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#122. To: Esso, Cynicom (#120)
Above is a "die-in" at Grand Central Station. Wanna bet someone who is really fed up makes it real? 
#123. To: Jethro Tull (#113)
That was the craziest thing I have ever seen. Which Ivy League University is she in charge of?
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#124. To: Jethro Tull (#122)
Needs industrial-strength napalm applied to kill the infestation.....
-Alex Kurtagic
#125. To: Jethro Tull, X-15, James Deffenbach (#113)
OMG, this woman is both insane and retarded. (not safe for viewing at work)
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#126. To: Jethro Tull (#122)
New Yorkers are pussies. They'll put up with this crap. I'd like to see these dumb asshats try to stop traffic on I-405 - it would be "die in" reality speak. Above is a "die-in" at Grand Central Station.
#127. To: All (#126)
Here is a better description of what really happened and now one can understand why Zemir got of the car and didn't realize the danger. Begic’s cousin Amra Begic believes her cousin’s murder was motivated by race. “Look at the details, the details speak for themselves, why would they just target a random person?” Amra told KWWL. For one thing, the assault didn’t begin until one of the attackers jumped on the back of Begic’s car and begin hitting it while Begic was driving, which isn’t really conceivable if the attack was simply random and had nothing to do with the Ferguson protests. “Unsure of what was happening, Mr. Begic stopped the car and got out,” the police report said. “At that point he was approached by the defendant, T.K., and two other men. The defendant taunted Mr. Begic and challenged him to a fight.” “All four men began assaulting Mr. Begic and at least one of them struck Mr. Begic with a hammer.”
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#128. To: Dakmar (#125)
We need to deport those unhappy Negroes to a nice happy place like Liberia where they can live their lives free from the oppression they currently live under in America :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#129. To: Dakmar (#125)
That's the wookie, right?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#130. To: X-15 (#124)
Needs industrial-strength napalm applied to kill the infestation.....
#131. To: christine (#115)
That woman is insane. listen to the youtube that JT posted.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#132. To: Dakmar (#125)
I think she might have fried her brain cells with this stuff... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jenkem is a inhalant and purported hallucinogen created from fermented human waste.[1] In the mid-1990s, it was reported to be a popular street drug among Zambian street children.[2][3][4][5]In November 2007, anecdotal American media reports created the false impression that jenkem was a popular drug in American schools.[6][7] Several sources reported that the increase in American media coverage was based on a hoax and "on faulty Internet research."[8] Description The name derives from Genkem, a brand of glues which had "become the generic name for all the glues used by glue-sniffing children" in South Africa, where the drug originated and is most popular on the African continent today.[9] In the book Children of AIDS: Africa's Orphan Crisis by Emma Guest, the making of jenkem is described: "fermented human sewage, scraped from pipes and stored in plastic bags for a week or so, until it gives off numbing, intoxicating fumes."[10] The process is similarly described in a 1995 IPS report: "Human excreta is scooped up from the edges of the sewer ponds in old cans and containers which are covered with a polyethylene bag and left to stew or ferment for a week."[4] A 1999 BBC article refers to "the dark brown sludge, gathering up fistfuls and stuffing it into small plastic bottles. They tap the bottles on the ground, taking care to leave enough room for methane to form at the top."[3] The effects of jenkem inhalation last for around an hour and consist of auditory and visual hallucinations for some users.[3] In 1995, one user told a reporter it is "more potent than cannabis."[4] A 1999 report interviewed a user, who said, "With glue, I just hear voices in my head. But with jenkem, I see visions. I see my mother who is dead and I forget about the problems in my life."[3] Fumito Ichinose, an anesthesia specialist in Boston who conducted a study on the effects of hydrogen sulfide gas, or "sewer gas," on mice, informed Salon.com that holding your breath, choking, or "the inhalation of gases like those produced from jenkem could result in hypoxia, a lack of oxygen flow to the body that could be alternately euphoric and physically dangerous."[7] Jenkem
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#133. To: FormerLurker, James Deffenbach (#132)
You invoked de debbil!! Jenkem
-Alex Kurtagic
#134. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Lived near there many years, wasn't bad then, now many Bosnians & blacks there, much trouble now. Gravois Avenue and Itaska
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#135. To: Cynicom (#118)
I had lunch with my bestest friend yesterday. He's black and a family man. I lamented about the race baiting news of late. He understood and explained it well. Until one has had blacks threaten to kill them, for nothing, they cannot say they understand their hatred.
#136. To: X-15 (#133)
I reckon the Kenyan would know more about shit than a proctologist given that he was known to frequent gay bath houses.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#137. To: X-15 (#133)
That poster is a keeper... LOL!!!! You invoked de debbil!!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#138. To: Turtle (#134)
Missouri should thank BillyJeff. america.aljazeera.com/wat...ht-blog/2013/10/13/the-5- biggest-refugeegroupsofthelast20years.html
#139. To: X-15 (#133)
Well here's something you'll only see in Africa. It looks like a variation of the Jenkem idea I guess. 
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#140. To: FormerLurker (#139)
Obviously a more advanced, superior society.....
-Alex Kurtagic
#141. To: Turtle (#134)
It would seem that way. Temperature's rising. By St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO) December 6, 2014 6:50 am Print Tell a Friend Text Size: A A A FBI LogoSt. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson has called in the FBI to help investigate what he is calling a hate crime because a woman assaulted by three black teens is Bosnian. The Friday morning attack occurred in the Bevo Mill neighborhood where earlier this week a Bosnian man was killed with a hammer by a group of teens. In Friday's case, the woman, 26, told police that she was driving in the 4600 block of Lansdowne Avenue about 5:25 a.m. when three men in their late teens to early 20s walked in front of her vehicle. When the woman attempted to drive around the young men, at least one of them pulled a gun and ordered her to stop. One of the men struck the windshield with an object police said could have been a crowbar. The woman was pulled from the vehicle while another of the men opened the passenger door and went through the woman's purse, saying it was empty. One of the men threw her cellphone to the ground and stomped on it. One of the men asked where the woman was from. She said she was European. "You're a (expletive) liar. You're Bosnian. I should just kill you now," Dotson said of the woman's account. Based on that comment, he said, police are labeling the assault as a hate crime. The woman was pushed to the ground and kicked before the attackers fled. A passer-by told police the woman was found unconscious. She declined to be taken to a hospital for treatment, saying she would go later. Dotson said designating the attack as a hate crime could lead to additional charges and prison time. Suspect descriptions are scant and he is urging the community to help identify the men. now many Bosnians & blacks there, much trouble now.
St. Louis Police, FBI investigating Friday attack on Bosnian woman as hate crime
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#142. To: FormerLurker (#139)
OMG. That is disgusting.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#143. To: christine (#87)
Compare the letters in "ROBS A STORE" with other letters on the sign. You'll see exact matches for most of the letters. I read that that image was photoshopped. I haven't researched myself, so I don't for sure.
#144. To: Pinguinite (#143)
Here's the real one, Neil. 
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#145. To: christine, All (#144) (Edited)
A proper counter-sign would read: "No White Man should have to FEAR for his life every time a black mother's son leaves home. White lives matter."
-Alex Kurtagic
#146. To: X-15 (#145)
perfect
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#147. To: Esso, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Artisan, christine (#120)
I believe you are correct, but the spark you seek will not be struck. The PTB are not going to grant that. As far as I can tell we're looking at an engineered, controlled reaction. All parties are sucking at the media teats of choice; all teats are expounding the right Hegelian recipe of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. Oprah said that she hoped we would die off. In her nightmares, she meant that we would die off before a spark would set us off. The next generation is almost totally raised on white guilt. Outspoken professional whites are almost unanimous in their liberal response to this situation. To be fair, that's the only safe commentary today. The nation is further split by Christian Zionists who could look at a dead Palestinian child and ignore the horror. They will oppose the proper response, as far as I can tell. To those libertarians on 4um: this is not about our rights. This is about a whole new level of control over white education, white parenting, white media, and white living choices. It's coming. Bring it. Now.
#148. To: Deasy, 4 (#147)
Yes indeed. And to the big "L" Libertarians, the ones who marched to the tune of NAFTA/GATT/Open Borders, be careful what you wish for regarding local policing. As bad as some incidents have been, a National Police Department, manned by dusky, TSA agent-types, will make them look like choir boys. To those libertarians on 4um: this is not about our rights. This is about a whole new level of control over white education, white parenting, white media, and white living choices. It's coming
#149. To: Jethro Tull (#148)
Our media and political class are the most sophisticated insurrectionists to have ever soiled planet earth.
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
#150. To: noone222, Deasy, 4 (#149)
Yes. They create a narrative, anchor it with selected anecdotal articles, and then watch the buildings burn. Our media and political class are the most sophisticated insurrectionists to have ever soiled planet earth.
#151. To: Deasy (#147)
absolutely and you are correct that the next generations have been raised on white guilt so they applaud what's coming including the amnesty of millions and millions of illegals even though it's a slap in the face to those immigrants who have and are pursuing the legal and costly process of obtaining citizenship. This is about a whole new level of control over white education, white parenting, white media, and white living choices. It's coming.
To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.
#152. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, christine (#149)
Yes, yes, and yes. I am not about to give up, though.
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