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Title: The BRICS Nations Will Take Down The Dollar? But What About Israel?
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URL Source: http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/ ... -dollar-but-what-about-israel/
Published: Dec 8, 2014
Author: staff
Post Date: 2014-12-08 00:18:14 by Horse
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Views: 357
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Voters in New York started a petition ballot initiative to investigate 911. There had never been a criminal investigation into either the assassination of President Kennedy or into the deaths of some 3,000 people on 911. A city official of Jewish descent asked of the proposed investigation into 911, ‘Will this be good for Israel?’ Apparently the Jews of New York decided that an investigation into the truth of 911 would not be good for Israel because they denied the petition ballot access. The Goyim should not be allowed to decide for themselves who was responsible for an act that pushed America into spending trillions of dollars and killing the neighbors of Israel who said No to Jewish Supremacism.

There is no question that the BRICS nations of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa will take down the dollar as the international reserve currency. They have created an alliance of nations from Latin America, Asia, Africa and the Mideast willing to join in their fight to take down the dollar. That alliance includes NATO partner Turkey and soon maybe even Germany.

We have entered a Third Phase of the Dollar’s post War history. In 1944 the Bretton Woods Conference gave the US the right to print dollar bills which would function as if they were gold in settling trade with other nations. That ended in 1971 when gold was no longer exchanged for dollars. Henry Kissinger used the 1973 Arab Israeli war to create the Petrodollar standard.

Wassily Leontief had studied the American economy. The US had 31 basic industries. We had skilled workers who took natural resources and added value to create products people wanted to buy. Later it was determined that when America increased her population beyond the point where natural resources had to be imported that we would have to cut wages severely. Rather than face this reality the ruling elite decided to continue increasing the population. They also decided that spending money overseas to fight wars and to occupy nations would be good for them.

The US no longer had a balance of trade surplus. Nobody wanted American products at those prices. The Petrodollar made that problem appear to go away.

You must understand that from their point of view ‘They are America.’

The Petrodollar papered over the economic consequences of the greed of America’s ruling elite. The Arab Gulf States agreed to sell oil priced only in dollars. This created an artificial demand for dollars. It meant that America could continue to print dollars to buy cars, electronics, food and other things by the trillion without giving anything but green ink and paper in return. The Arabs were supposed to buy US Treasury bonds to fund America’s perpetual deficit.

Since the Greenspan era, American college grads were supposed to make a living selling paper financial products like derivatives, Mortgage Backed Securities and Credit Default Swaps. So what if American manufacturing and jobs were sent overseas? Young people could take out loans and get diplomas. They would never need jobs except for government subsidized professions. Failing that the young people could always join the military and kick in doors in the Mideast or become one of the 2 million plus people spying on Americans. It occurred to the Bankers that not everyone liked what they were doing to America and to the world. They wanted to record every phone conversation and every email.

The Petrodollar standard worked until this year. Zero Hedge ran an obituary notice for the Petrodollar and had to run it a second time because people had failed to grasp the significance of this event. The Gulf States are no longer generating huge cash surpluses . They can no longer fund the US budget deficit. The Federal Reserve has taken over that role by buying both Treasury bonds and Mortgage Backed Securities. The FED buys worthless MBS to keep the criminals of Wall Street out of jail and to make the Too Big To Jail Banks appear to be more liquid than they really are.

The Chinese appear to be holding lots of Treasury bonds. They are everywhere in the world buying anything of value. They are buying Detroit. They are buying old industrial parks in Pennsylvanian. The Italians even set up a website to sell their businesses and properties to China. The title of the website translates as ‘Sell it to the Chinese.’ The Chinese will often use US Treasury bonds as collateral when they buy properties. If they walk away from the loan, the Banks will be stuck owning Treasury bonds which could soon be approaching zero value. The point is that those Treasury bonds used as collateral are still technically listed as being theirs but you would need a very big army to descend upon Beijing and make the Chinese take back those bonds after the Dollar Dies.

The latest G-20 Summit in Australia saw more movement towards Bail-ins or seizures of bank depositors’ money to pay off bad debts run up by the Bankers. All this talk of seizing cash from depositors will just force people to look for some place other than the dollar, the pound, the euro and the yen to put their money. This will further hasten Doomsday for the Dollar.

The BRICS nations are setting up their own versions of the IMF and the World Bank. They could also take over the IMF system from within. In 2015 China could act decisively on their demand for a greater role in the IMF and have the yuan included in the basket of currencies considered for valuing Special Drawing Rights. To get into that coveted basket of IMF currencies China would legally be required to open their gold vaults to inspection some time before September 15, 2015. That would be a disaster for the dollar and for American workers and pensioners.

Why? Because China and the rest of Asia has been buying enormous quantities of gold. It is far greater than the amount mined each year. Think what that means. Central Banks in the West have been leasing gold to bullion banks who have sold that gold five times over as paper promises of bullion on deposit. It has been estimated that 20,000 or more tons of paper promises of gold deposits at bullion banks do not actually exist. This means that a lot of gold at deposit in a Central Bank like Germany’s 300 tons at the Federal Reserve are no longer in the vaults. It also means that the customers who thought they had gold on deposit at bullion banks have been defrauded.

Most of those depositors who have been robbed were Arabs.

A man who works with the Chinese in their gold acquisition program said they have been buying a 1,000 tons of gold a month for more than a year. That gold came from the Central Banks and the bullion banks. If the Chinese open their gold vaults to inspection, the Dollar, the pound, the euro and and the yen will crash. Foreigners will have no use for dollars and will dump them.

That will be the beginning of Hyperinflation in America. I have defined a 25% increase in the cost of living as the beginning point for Hyperinflation. Back in the Jimmy Carter years, America survived a 16% inflation rate. The Federal Reserve raised interest rates to 21%. We could not survive that again which is why I concluded that 25% is where Hyperinflation would begin for the currency that at one time had functioned in the settlement of international trade accounts.

The elite does not care that wages will be cut in half and that America will be torn apart by Food Riots.

But they do care about the survival of Judaism Incorporated and its continued prosperity.

When I say Israel, I am referring to the the Organized Criminal Conspiracy that includes the state of Israel and participating Jewish people of substantial means around the world. Judaism Incorporated is a Top Down Society. There have been Austerity protest on Rothschild Blvd in Tel Aviv because not all Jews receive equal portions from what those above take every year.

In January the Russians will be setting up their own bank transfer system to challenge America’s SWIFT system (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication.) The Obama administration has been abusing SWIFT to impose sanctions on people who were not really doing anything wrong, such as, the banks who handled transactions for Hamas and Hezbollah. They are not terrorists like Al Qaeda and ISIS whom the US does fund. By what right does the US fine a French bank $9 billion for doing what it does every day of the week?

There is talk of a gold backed yuan and ruble linking up with other commodity backed currencies after the dollar is dumped as the world’s international reserve currency.

Israel has done studies on the wondrous things they could do if they were to own the oil fields of one or more Gulf States. There are problems involved with this idea. 1) Where will the people who are now living there go? And 2) What will happen when 1.3 billion Muslims become enraged at Israel seizing Mecca and slaughtering Muslims by the tens of millions.

The obvious solution is that Israel gets America involved in a scaled down version of World War III when the dollar collapses. The Plan: While the US is suffering from the beginnings of Hyperinflation and the first of many Nationwide Food Riots, American politicians could be persuaded to fight one last war in the Persian Gulf. The object being to kill both our allies and our foes so Israel is the last man standing in the Gulf. Israel owns the government of the United States. Israel and the US have been funding and arming ISIS. They could persuade ISIS to attack Saudi Arabia. That could get a war going rather quickly.

Another alternative is that Jewish people involved in gold mining, in the Central Banks and the bullion banks had planned ahead and siphoned off for Judaism Incorporated some of those tens of thousands of tons of stolen gold. Robert Rubin was Clinton’s Secretary of the Treasury when critics said much of the gold at Fort Knox were replaced by gold plated tungsten bars. If they had been planning ahead, they would have stashed at least a thousand tons of that gold in a secure location for the benefit of the state of Israel.

Israel could do any of the above.

Israel could also work out arrangements to jointly rule America with the Chinese. The Jews of America had worked out a power sharing arrangement with the blacks and the Hispanics after they had assassinated President Kennedy. They could just as easily work with China. They have had dealings with China since the Days of the Opium Wars. The Chinese have been buying enormous amounts of real estate. That includes farms, homes, apartments, malls and industrial parks. They could hire cheap skilled labor in the US and give their American employees robots to turn out competitively priced products. American labor will be cheap after the dollar is devalued and wages are cut in half.

The odd man out would be blacks and maybe Hispanics. White Americans with above room temperature IQs figured out that they had been left out of the Jewish power sharing equation long before they were old enough to vote. White males are the only group in America who are not protected by discrimination laws when they apply to medical school.

Israel could survive the rise of the BRICS nations and the collapse of the dollar. But America and the rest of the world would be in very dire straits. Blacks in the US and in Africa might be the Biggest Losers. Muslims would be very unhappy if they were allowed to live. America could be torn apart by Food Riots and Race Wars. WW III could even escalate and kill us all.

You do understand that None of that matters. What happens to you and your family does not matter. That a few billion people die from starvation and plagues does not matter. That World War III kills us all does not matter. All that matters is that all seven billion people on the earth be made to benefit Israel.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Israel could survive the rise of the BRICS nations and the collapse of the dollar. But America and the rest of the world would be in very dire straits.

Real Money And The Jewish Dialectic - 5 minute YouTube by Brother Nathanael

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GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-08   1:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GreyLmist (#1)

Comments on the Brother Nathanael video please! I admire him very much, but what he's saying here bears no resemblance to any other of our pundits. Fiat money the only answer, gold and silver another generic Jew fraud? I certainly don't think a man like Peter Schiff would be in on any such scheme, he's obviously a gold and silver man because of their intrinsic value.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2014-12-09   0:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: NeoconsNailed, GreyLmist (#2)

Our solution is 100% money advocated by Irving Fisher in the the Chicago Plan of 1933. It says government should make all money including paper and checking account. There should be no fractional reserve banking where a $100 deposit can be loaned out as $1,000 through the power of your local bank being allowed to create money out of nothing and to charge you interest. It is not fiat money that fails. It is fractional reserve banking and the interest on all that debt.

Lincoln's Greenbacks were debt free. You did not have to borrow money from a bank which would create the money for you. It was non-interest bearing so there was no government debt and no interest and no debt.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-12-10   5:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#2) (Edited)

Comments on the Brother Nathanael video please! I admire him very much, but what he's saying here bears no resemblance to any other of our pundits. Fiat money the only answer, gold and silver another generic Jew fraud? I certainly don't think a man like Peter Schiff would be in on any such scheme, he's obviously a gold and silver man because of their intrinsic value.

Mayer Rothschild was a goldsmith. His business associates like Jacob Schiff were "goldbugs" too. Undoubtedly, they all built their fortunes by amassing silver also, among their many other asset and commodity holdings. Peter Schiff seems to mean well but the fluctuating market values of precious metals was not intended by our Founders to be a substitute for the power of our government to issue its own debt-free money and the value of it by law. I don't think Brother Nathanael was implying that gold and silver have no intrinsic value. I think his main point was that those shiny elements are used hypnotically as a sideshow distraction from money being determined by government law, as Aristotle said.

Edited for spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   2:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse, NeoconsNailed (#3) (Edited)

Horse: Our solution is 100% money advocated by Irving Fisher in the the Chicago Plan of 1933. It says government should make all money including paper and checking account. There should be no fractional reserve banking where a $100 deposit can be loaned out as $1,000 through the power of your local bank being allowed to create money out of nothing and to charge you interest. It is not fiat money that fails. It is fractional reserve banking and the interest on all that debt.

That's the first I've heard about Irving Fisher's Chicago Plan of 1933. Sounds like it would make a great presentation at the Nationalist Monetary Reform Convention that Brother Nathanael has been calling for:

Money For People NOT Jewish Bankers - 3.5 minute YouTube

Edited quote section.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   2:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GreyLmist, NeoconsNailed (#5)

I am going to post an article that explains this a bit more. I wrote this some time ago.

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/imf-economists-we-were-wrong-will-someone-please-tell-the-press-and-the-politicians/

IMF Economists: ‘We Were Wrong.’ Will Someone Please Tell The Press And The Politicians.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-12-11   3:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse, NeoconsNailed (#3)

Lincoln's Greenbacks were debt free. You did not have to borrow money from a bank which would create the money for you. It was non-interest bearing so there was no government debt and no interest and no debt.

One more video by Brother Nathanael:

How To Become A Constitutional Expert On Money - 3.75 minute YouTube

At 1:09, "Become a Constitutional expert on money and you can contribute to the right side of the debate. Quote: 'Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof,' says the Constitution. Memorize this one little sentence and you'll be the expert."

Greenspan claims in the video that the Federal Reserve is an independent agency and no other agency of government can overrule its actions. Maybe he thinks America is Israel Jr. but it isn't. The Federal Reserve is overruled by the Constitution itself that authorizes no power whatsoever for it to create our nation's money, much less on its own terms as if its a monarchy of "demigods" ruling over and above every branch of our government.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   4:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#6)

I am going to post an article that explains this a bit more. I wrote this some time ago.

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/imf-economists-we-were-wrong-will-someone-please-tell-the-press-and-the-politicians/

IMF Economists: ‘We Were Wrong.’ Will Someone Please Tell The Press And The Politicians.

IMF Economists: ‘We Were Wrong.’ Will Someone Please Tell The Press And The Politicians.

Thank you. I remember reading some of your proposals before that are linked there and hope a Nationalist Monetary Reform Convention like Brother Nathanael suggests will soon be available, maybe online, where your ideas and Fisher's and others can be presented to help repair America's financial debacles and return it to monetary Constitutionality. I noticed that the article also links to the Positive Money org, which was mentioned in the first Brother Nathanael video above during the British Parliament speaker's comments about the monetary discussions there. The Bill Still video at your site is informative about the Chicago Proposal topic, which I knew nothing about, so I'd like to post that here too for anyone interested:

SR 67 IMF Paper Supports Monetary Reform???-Bill Still.mov

Published on Aug 18, 2012

A new IMF research paper supports monetary reform.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   6:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#7) (Edited)

Thank you all so much, but it's still clear as mud. "Government-created fiat money" is BroNat's solution, but if there's no metal basis, doesn't this give the politicians the same license to bamboozle us the Fed now has? And isn't he throwing out the wisdom of the ages re intrinsic value? He and some of you resort to the Constitution, but the Founding Fathers hated paper “money”, period, and would vehemently disagree with him -- no? Surely either that whole system was wrong, or BroNat is.

To say “government should issue its own fiat money and keep it stable and honest” is like saying “everybody should just do right and be fair.” Politicians are evil and must be bound down with the chains of hard reality -- in this case, that greenbacks can only be true notes, i.e. promises to pay gold and silver on demand, as when lots of us were children – n’est-ce pas?

I don't doubt BroNat's integrity or sincerity, but the idea that greenbacks are "coinage" seems a stretch of Orwellian proportions. The Constitution is full of Masonic trickery; if anything that would, IMHO, be a case of it. The Coinage Act of 1792 "established the silver dollar as the unit of money in the United States, declared it to be lawful tender, and created a decimal system for U.S. currency" -- Wikipedia. We're throwing that out now, are we?

The fed didn't invent paper "money". There are even cases from the ancient East of tyrants and shysters using it to rob the people of their real substance. Inflation was not unheard of before the Jew Fed came along:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation#mediaviewer/File:US_Historical_Inflat ion_Ancient.svg

Sure, we all oppose fractional-reserve banking and want vastly less debt. But isn't BroNat proposing no-reserve banking? The fact remains that greenbacks have no INTRINSIC value, and gold and silver do. When evil Jews promote gold and silver they're merely resorting to one of their oldest ploys, using good to accomplish some unnamed bad, and that when good Jews like Peter Schiff promote gold it's because they want what actually works for us all and has been universally accepted through history except in stupid-idiot eras like today where common sense is no longer common. (The “bad” mentioned above could be simply the bad Jews, having weaned the public off real substance, cashing in on people’s newly reawakened interest in it. Yep, they always play both sides. Vot, you tink dey’re not holdink tons and tons of it demselves?)

Sure, Schiff's gold card looks silly now when the public are still economic children, but even the establishment is warning hyperinflation or a paper dollar crash is ready to hit at any second. When it does, every checkout girl is going to have an automatic doctorate in this. Maybe Schiff is just trying a new angle to get people buying gold, something a caring pundit normally does IMHO. Schiff has to eat, too. BroNat cares, he just has some kind of different money concept which still eludes me.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2014-12-11   10:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#9) (Edited)

Sure, we all oppose fractional-reserve banking and want vastly less debt. But isn't BroNat proposing no-reserve banking?

I'd call it more like no-reserve minting but he seems to be open to various input about it. Too much is being legerdemained (by sleight of hand) as debt transactions, in my view, when they should be counted simply as earnings of accrued value rendered for jobs Americans have done or societal projects they've participated in, the value of which was created by the worker/project volunteer and not through the indebtedness of others benefiting from it.

The fact remains that greenbacks have no INTRINSIC value, and gold and silver do. When evil Jews promote gold and silver they're merely resorting to one of their oldest ploys, using good to accomplish some unnamed bad, and that when good Jews like Peter Schiff promote gold it's because they want what actually works for us all and has been universally accepted through history except in stupid-idiot eras like today where common sense is no longer common. (The “bad” mentioned above could be simply the bad Jews, having weaned the public off real substance, cashing in on people’s newly reawakened interest in it. Yep, they always play both sides. Vot, you tink dey’re not holdink tons and tons of it demselves?)

Sure, Schiff's gold card looks silly now when the public are still economic children, but even the establishment is warning hyperinflation or a paper dollar crash is ready to hit at any second. When it does, every checkout girl is going to have an automatic doctorate in this. Maybe Schiff is just trying a new angle to get people buying gold, something a caring pundit normally does IMHO. Schiff has to eat, too. BroNat cares, he just has some kind of different money concept which still eludes me.

I do not want to be worrying about losing or keeping track of dinky little pieces of gold such as Schiff promoted, however well-meaning. Fifty dollar fragments might be chump change and no big ordeal to him if they get lost but most Americans would probably not think so. For now, I'm going to start by posting some references on what's being discussed. One is critical of Schiff but am mainly posting it for the info on his pitchings of an Australian storage point for gold holdings, not as an endorsement of the author's views on him personally. One is by Gary North on the "Lincoln Greenbacks" issue and should not be considered either as an endorsement of him, just as alternate viewpoints on that subject:

Gold: Fleecing The Sheep- August 01, 2011 - helpfreetheearth.com [Schiff and Australia's Perth Mint]

Historical Error #3: Abraham Lincoln Promoted Debt-Free Paper Money (the Greenbacks). - garynorth.com

Greenback (money) - Wikipedia [Two types: Demand Notes redeemable for specie and could be used to pay customs duties. United States Notes which were not redeemable for specie and couldn't be used for customs duties.]

Coinage Act of 1792 - Wikipedia [aka The Mint Act of April 2, 1792 - smalldollars.com]

Section 19 of the Act established a penalty of death for debasing the gold or silver coins authorized by the Act, or embezzlement of the metals for those coins, by officers or employees of the mint; this section of the Act apparently remains in effect and would, in theory, continue to apply in the case of "any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint." (At present the only gold or silver coins struck by the US mint are the American Silver Eagle and the American Gold Eagle coins, some Proof coinage at the San Francisco Mint, such as the silver US State Quarters, and much of the Commemorative coinage of the United States.)

Sec. 19. And be it further enacted, That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said Mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of fine gold or fine silver therein contained, or shall be of less weight or value than the same ought to be pursuant to connivance of any of the officers or persons who shall be employed at the said Mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals which shall at any time be committed to their charge for the purpose of being coined at the said Mint, every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offences, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer death.

Edited for punctuation + bracketed insert at the Wikipedia link on Greenback money.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   21:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

some references on what's being discussed.

Additional references for study and consideration:

Trade dollar - Wikipedia

Trade dollar (United States coin) - Wikipedia

Welcome to Tradedollarnut.com, the web's number one site for information on United States Trade Dollars.

An Introduction to the United States Trade Dollar

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   22:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)

Interesting in a bizarre fashion - most here want readily available, recognizable, and useful silver coins.

Not numismatics that who knows what they may be worth coins. imo

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-12-11   22:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#9) (Edited)

it's still clear as mud. "Government-created fiat money" is BroNat's solution, but if there's no metal basis, doesn't this give the politicians the same license to bamboozle us the Fed now has? And isn't he throwing out the wisdom of the ages re intrinsic value? He and some of you resort to the Constitution, but the Founding Fathers hated paper “money”, period, and would vehemently disagree with him -- no? Surely either that whole system was wrong, or BroNat is.

To say “government should issue its own fiat money and keep it stable and honest” is like saying “everybody should just do right and be fair.” Politicians are evil and must be bound down with the chains of hard reality -- in this case, that greenbacks can only be true notes, i.e. promises to pay gold and silver on demand, as when lots of us were children – n’est-ce pas?

I don't doubt BroNat's integrity or sincerity, but the idea that greenbacks are "coinage" seems a stretch of Orwellian proportions. The Constitution is full of Masonic trickery; if anything that would, IMHO, be a case of it. The Coinage Act of 1792 "established the silver dollar as the unit of money in the United States, declared it to be lawful tender, and created a decimal system for U.S. currency" -- Wikipedia. We're throwing that out now, are we?

The fed didn't invent paper "money". There are even cases from the ancient East of tyrants and shysters using it to rob the people of their real substance. Inflation was not unheard of before the Jew Fed came along:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation#mediaviewer/File:US_Historical_Inflat ion_Ancient.svg

Activating your link path for easier access: Inflation - Wikipedia

In answer to your Greenbacks question at paragraph 2, I noted at the Wikipedia link in a post above that there were two different types of those: 1. Demand Notes which were redeemable for specie and could be used to pay customs duties. 2. United States Notes which were not redeemable for specie and couldn't be used for customs duties.

I'm not an Economics expert, if there even really is such a thing, but I would think that a way to curb inflation might be for the value of our nation's money (in coinage or dollar form) to be set with a valuation that cannot fall below the values of gold, silver and copper grains for its composition or backing as established by Congress (not whatever "the current commodities market prices" are) but could increase in value equally whenever there are increases in the market prices. Regardless of popular opinions about our Founders and like it or not, they only held the States to a gold and silver standard in the Constitution for their debt purposes -- not the Federal branch of government.

Edited spelling and link.

Edit to add: I don't object to people insisting on precious metals that they believe have more "intrinsic" value to them for their monetary usage and investments. I do object to their restrictive choice being imposed monopolistically on everyone else rather than others having the legal tender options of alternative currencies.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   23:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GreyLmist (#10)

Sec. 19. And be it further enacted, That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said Mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of fine gold or fine silver therein contained, or shall be of less weight or value than the same ought to be pursuant to connivance of any of the officers or persons who shall be employed at the said Mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals which shall at any time be committed to their charge for the purpose of being coined at the said Mint, every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offences, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer death.

The Coinage Act of 1792 must not be in effect any longer.

Deasy  posted on  2014-12-11   23:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#12) (Edited)

Interesting in a bizarre fashion - most here want readily available, recognizable, and useful silver coins.

Not numismatics that who knows what they may be worth coins. imo

Well, I mainly wanted to post the Trade Dollar links for consideration of a possible way to separate our national money, our earnings and our Treasury from controls by Commerce -- especially foreign Commerce that disrupts our living standards by their near slave labor wage scales. Something I thought could be a topic of review and more input if we can manage to schedule a Nationalist Monetary Reform Convention sometime soon -- online, preferably imo -- such as Brother Nathanael has been suggesting.

Edited spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   23:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deasy (#14) (Edited)

The Coinage Act of 1792 must not be in effect any longer.

Wikipedia states that the death penalty is still in effect but that's probably the main reason the coinage of our money has been shuffled off to just a very few places left here, mostly for unusual coinings, where those Mint workers could be subjected to a penalty of death for debasement and/or embezzlement of the metals involved.

Edited grammar.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2014-12-11   23:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GreyLmist (#16)

I'm reminded of tar and feathering the Tories during our 18th century Revolutionary days.

Deasy  posted on  2014-12-12   1:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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