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Title: Jethro Tull Has Left Us - please say good-bye
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Published: Dec 14, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-12-14 22:13:11 by Lod
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JT - all your experience, wisdom and insight will be sorely missed, lod
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#8. To: Lod (#1)
??? What happened?
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
A fitting tune, methinks... Hopefully this is the intended song. Can't play any more 'tubes until update my system, which I'm doing tonight. Best to you, Tull.
JT: I've been away off and on for personal reasons, so I missed out on your issues. I hope this comment finds its way to you in good health and spirits. I can't tell why you've left, but if it has anything to do with differences between you and others on the forum, then please reconsider. Differences no matter how strident are what make public discussion valuable. According to JFK, Solon the Greek lawmaker active around 550 BCE made it against the law for any Greek citizen to "shrink from controversy." Such is the life of a free citizen: obligation to answer disagreements with rational responses. It has been said that 4um is a place for "old friends" to gather in support of one another after the battles on other fora have been lost or called a draw. I have accepted this definition but I still say that we should continue to debate issues that are important to us openly. Where else is that allowed? Who else is saying what needs to be said, for better or worse? Except for recently, I was too busy to back you up on your debates against the libertarian spirit here regarding the defense of American policemen. Was I too late? This is one of the most important dialogs Americans are having in private today. Many people are waking up to the realities around us. It is no time to stop discussion. A report has come out of COINTELPRO-like agitation among the demonstrators at a recent SF-located "protest." If this is true, we would need your analysis even more. You and I have disagreed and agreed many times. I hope that can continue. Instead of leaving, why not rethink your situation and 4's. What are we doing that should be changed? Perhaps this is about the platform without you realizing it. Please discuss this with us. I hope christine will save your account long enough for you to reconsider.
JT, I really miss you already. Please reconsider.
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
Agree - this place won't be the same without our friend.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Personal experience... When one ages, patience ebbs, wisdom brings mental clarity.
Cyni, how does one look back at what one has done online and measure its value?
In honesty, one tries to assure themselves of two things. One, they have learned something along the way and two, they know they have added something as best and honestly as they could. Personally, I have been around for about sixteen years, learned a lot and been thrown out of every forum except this one.
I can say that I've done such (learned and added honestly) but it feels like I'm treading water sometimes.
Goddamn. The last year has been one of such great loss. Stay in touch if you see fit, and if you're ever near Ft. Wayne, look me up. You've been a good friend.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. JT was like a weather-vane, always pointing in one direction or the other, but there, like a landmark.
I hope it wasn't anything I said. Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
That would be the best Christmas present possible. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Yeah that or a weekend with this girl. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
You don't have permission to access "http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNjk1MjIxNjUxNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODk2NzM4Mg@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg" on this server. Reference #24.36fc4317.1418664122.101daaa8 Ack! “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I got that too, Lod. We must be on "double secret probation." Even we didn't know it.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
She must be smokin' hot.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
JT was (is!) a really interesting poster who had a knack for ferreting out important information. I sure hope he will come back.
Yep - Tom's definitely one of the good guys. Maybe he'll have 4um-withdrawals and rejoin us soon. :-)) “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
He'll be back. It might take a catastrophic false flag attack or some other newsworthy event, but JT's the last person you'd think would go all Eric Stratton on us.
I'll try again. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Still doesn't work here.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
I'm getting a picture of Jennifer Aniston (sp?). Is that the intended image? I will heartily second that comment !!! 4um needs men with his kind of gravitas. What was the story with Eric Stratton ? I happened to notice that al of his posts were deleted, but never knew why. Some folks, we just never know why they leave...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Is that the intended image? It'll work for me! Merry Christmas. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Looks like it's hosted on a server with privileged access.
I'm hoping.
It was a link to an IMDB img of Jennifer Aniston, I will not apologize for our soiree! “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Don't blame yourself for being busy or late. Not saying that I couldn't be wrong but he's never lacked formidable back up here by my readings. Even said himself, iirc, that he was surprised the cop in Garner's case wasn't indicted. Sometimes people just need a break, maybe have computer problems or other things they need to do for a while. I read a comment here some time ago to the effect that posting a leave of absence for whatever reason amounted to vanity. JT didn't say goodbye to 4um permanently or temporarily so I'm not going to say goodbye to him. What I'm replying here about is that I don't understand what you're saying there. People are waking up to the realities that America doesn't have an institutionalized Police Brutality problem and policemen need defending from a dire threat of libertarianism? I'm fairly certain that I woke to a very different reality today. If you'd like to continue discussions about it, I'm in agreement that the issues are an important topic for dialogue but would rather do so in a different thread with more of a debating format. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
JT let me know that he's taken a leave of absence and will return in full effect as soon as he can. Indeterminate time-frame and he wishes 4um all the best while he's away. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
If I thought media coverage of this issue were all about restoring the republic to is halcyon days of neighborly constables and justice for all, I would be the first to support them. This situation is more complicated than that.
Indeterminate time-frame and he wishes 4um all the best while he's away. Looking forward to his return-voyage contributions, thanks. Fare thee well in the meanwhile with best wishes to him too. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
From what I could gather, Eric kinda went bugfucky and freaked out about some of the comments he'd posted here and the possibility that "THEY" might be reading them. Not that I think JT went batty. He's too commited to his beliefs to give a damn what the PTB's might think of how he feels. Could be he just needed some cyber space.
Spot on observation.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Your post very much sums up what I wanted to say. And interesting enough, no comment from his sidekick, scrapper2. Things like this don't make me go hmmmm. I have a feeling he'll be back.
Thank goodness. I wish him well in the meantime.
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
And interesting enough, no comment from his sidekick, scrapper2. Things like this don't make me go hmmmm. I have a feeling he'll be back. Thanks for your opening comment and insights, pr. Before I found out he wasn't presently around, I was on the lookout for his dancing Santa animation to maybe be posted here again for Christmas but, going by Post #39 above, I'm expecting that he might be off-board until after the New Year or thereabouts. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
He'll be back, we're just not sure exactly when...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#9. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#0)
#10. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, christine, Esso, Cynicom, Pinguinite (#0)
#11. To: Lod (#0)
#12. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, 4 (#11)
#13. To: Lod, All (#12)
Re JT...
#14. To: Cynicom (#13)
#15. To: Deasy, Christine (#14)
how does one look back at what one has done online and measure its value?
#16. To: Cynicom (#15)
#17. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#0)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#18. To: Esso (#17)
#19. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#0)
#20. To: Hmmmmm (#19)
Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread
#21. To: Lod (#20)
That would be the best Christmas present possible.
#22. To: Hmmmmm (#21)
Referral Denied
#23. To: Lod (#22)
#24. To: James Deffenbach, Hmmmm, 4 (#23)
#25. To: Lod (#0)
#26. To: Diana (#25)
#27. To: Lod (#26)
#28. To: James Deffenbach, Lod (#23)
#29. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
#30. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
I'll try again.
#31. To: Hmmmmm, Jethro Tull (#19)
Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread
#32. To: Obnoxicated (#27)
JT's the last person you'd think would go all Eric Stratton on us.
#33. To: Buzzard (#32)
#34. To: Buzzard (#30)
I'm getting a picture of Jennifer Aniston (sp?).
#35. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
I'll try again.
#36. To: Lod (#26)
Maybe he'll have 4um-withdrawals and rejoin us soon. :-)
#37. To: Pinguinite (#35)
Looks like it's hosted on a server with privileged access.
#38. To: Deasy (#10)
Except for recently, I was too busy to back you up on your debates against the libertarian spirit here regarding the defense of American policemen. Was I too late? This is one of the most important dialogs Americans are having in private today. Many people are waking up to the realities around us. It is no time to stop discussion.
#39. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#38)
#40. To: GreyLmist (#38)
#41. To: Lod (#39)
JT let me know that he's taken a leave of absence and will return in full effect as soon as he can.
#42. To: Buzzard (#32)
#43. To: Obnoxicated (#42)
#44. To: GreyLmist (#38)
(Edited)
#45. To: Lod (#0)
#46. To: purplerose (#44)
Your post very much sums up what I wanted to say.
#47. To: GreyLmist (#46)
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