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Title: Jethro Tull Has Left Us - please say good-bye
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Published: Dec 14, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-12-14 22:13:11 by Lod
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JT - all your experience, wisdom and insight will be sorely missed, lod
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#1. To: All (#0)
He's not dead, just departed. Sorry about any confusion. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
JT, good bye!!!
#2. To: Lod (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#3. To: Lod (#0)
Goodbye JT. You won't be forgotten.
#4. To: Lod (#1) (Edited)
Where did he go? Why has JT "departed"? OOPs...this lower quoted text was from another post.
Souls generally do not inhabit animals. They are purely flesh and blood.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#5. To: Lod (#0)
Good bye friend.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#6. To: Lod (#0)
You're kidding!!??! .. No.. I know you're not. Well , I think it's silly. We may not of seen eye to eye and I know he had many disagreements with many others but to storm off over the conversation just because he doesn't like what some folks have to say? I don't know what to say. He is an adult and can make his own choices. Even though I'm not overly fond of the fellow his own commentary did add something here. It's a shame he feels the need to leave.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
#7. To: Lod (#0)
See you Tull...and best wishes.
#8. To: Lod (#1)
??? What happened?
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#9. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#0)
A fitting tune, methinks... Hopefully this is the intended song. Can't play any more 'tubes until update my system, which I'm doing tonight. Best to you, Tull.
#10. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, christine, Esso, Cynicom, Pinguinite (#0)
JT: I've been away off and on for personal reasons, so I missed out on your issues. I hope this comment finds its way to you in good health and spirits. I can't tell why you've left, but if it has anything to do with differences between you and others on the forum, then please reconsider. Differences no matter how strident are what make public discussion valuable. According to JFK, Solon the Greek lawmaker active around 550 BCE made it against the law for any Greek citizen to "shrink from controversy." Such is the life of a free citizen: obligation to answer disagreements with rational responses. It has been said that 4um is a place for "old friends" to gather in support of one another after the battles on other fora have been lost or called a draw. I have accepted this definition but I still say that we should continue to debate issues that are important to us openly. Where else is that allowed? Who else is saying what needs to be said, for better or worse? Except for recently, I was too busy to back you up on your debates against the libertarian spirit here regarding the defense of American policemen. Was I too late? This is one of the most important dialogs Americans are having in private today. Many people are waking up to the realities around us. It is no time to stop discussion. A report has come out of COINTELPRO-like agitation among the demonstrators at a recent SF-located "protest." If this is true, we would need your analysis even more. You and I have disagreed and agreed many times. I hope that can continue. Instead of leaving, why not rethink your situation and 4's. What are we doing that should be changed? Perhaps this is about the platform without you realizing it. Please discuss this with us. I hope christine will save your account long enough for you to reconsider.
#11. To: Lod (#0)
JT, I really miss you already. Please reconsider.
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.". Étienne de La Boétie
#12. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, 4 (#11)
Agree - this place won't be the same without our friend.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#13. To: Lod, All (#12)
Personal experience... When one ages, patience ebbs, wisdom brings mental clarity. Re JT...
#14. To: Cynicom (#13)
Cyni, how does one look back at what one has done online and measure its value?
#15. To: Deasy, Christine (#14)
In honesty, one tries to assure themselves of two things. One, they have learned something along the way and two, they know they have added something as best and honestly as they could. Personally, I have been around for about sixteen years, learned a lot and been thrown out of every forum except this one. how does one look back at what one has done online and measure its value?
#16. To: Cynicom (#15)
I can say that I've done such (learned and added honestly) but it feels like I'm treading water sometimes.
#17. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#0)
Goddamn. The last year has been one of such great loss. Stay in touch if you see fit, and if you're ever near Ft. Wayne, look me up. You've been a good friend.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#18. To: Esso (#17)
JT was like a weather-vane, always pointing in one direction or the other, but there, like a landmark.
#19. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#0)
I hope it wasn't anything I said. Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#20. To: Hmmmmm (#19)
That would be the best Christmas present possible. Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#21. To: Lod (#20)
Yeah that or a weekend with this girl. That would be the best Christmas present possible.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#22. To: Hmmmmm (#21)
You don't have permission to access "http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNjk1MjIxNjUxNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODk2NzM4Mg@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg" on this server. Reference #24.36fc4317.1418664122.101daaa8 Ack! Referral Denied
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#23. To: Lod (#22)
I got that too, Lod. We must be on "double secret probation." Even we didn't know it.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#24. To: James Deffenbach, Hmmmm, 4 (#23)
She must be smokin' hot.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#25. To: Lod (#0)
JT was (is!) a really interesting poster who had a knack for ferreting out important information. I sure hope he will come back.
#26. To: Diana (#25)
Yep - Tom's definitely one of the good guys. Maybe he'll have 4um-withdrawals and rejoin us soon. :-))
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#27. To: Lod (#26)
He'll be back. It might take a catastrophic false flag attack or some other newsworthy event, but JT's the last person you'd think would go all Eric Stratton on us.
#28. To: James Deffenbach, Lod (#23)
I'll try again. 
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#29. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
Still doesn't work here.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#30. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
I'm getting a picture of Jennifer Aniston (sp?). Is that the intended image? I'll try again.
#31. To: Hmmmmm, Jethro Tull (#19)
I will heartily second that comment !!! 4um needs men with his kind of gravitas. Looking forward to the welcome back Jethro thread
#32. To: Obnoxicated (#27)
What was the story with Eric Stratton ? I happened to notice that al of his posts were deleted, but never knew why. JT's the last person you'd think would go all Eric Stratton on us.
#33. To: Buzzard (#32)
Some folks, we just never know why they leave...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#34. To: Buzzard (#30)
Is that the intended image? It'll work for me! Merry Christmas. I'm getting a picture of Jennifer Aniston (sp?).
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#35. To: Hmmmmm (#28)
Looks like it's hosted on a server with privileged access. I'll try again.
#36. To: Lod (#26)
I'm hoping. Maybe he'll have 4um-withdrawals and rejoin us soon. :-)
#37. To: Pinguinite (#35)
It was a link to an IMDB img of Jennifer Aniston, I will not apologize for our soiree! Looks like it's hosted on a server with privileged access.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#38. To: Deasy (#10)
Don't blame yourself for being busy or late. Not saying that I couldn't be wrong but he's never lacked formidable back up here by my readings. Even said himself, iirc, that he was surprised the cop in Garner's case wasn't indicted. Sometimes people just need a break, maybe have computer problems or other things they need to do for a while. I read a comment here some time ago to the effect that posting a leave of absence for whatever reason amounted to vanity. JT didn't say goodbye to 4um permanently or temporarily so I'm not going to say goodbye to him. What I'm replying here about is that I don't understand what you're saying there. People are waking up to the realities that America doesn't have an institutionalized Police Brutality problem and policemen need defending from a dire threat of libertarianism? I'm fairly certain that I woke to a very different reality today. If you'd like to continue discussions about it, I'm in agreement that the issues are an important topic for dialogue but would rather do so in a different thread with more of a debating format. Except for recently, I was too busy to back you up on your debates against the libertarian spirit here regarding the defense of American policemen. Was I too late? This is one of the most important dialogs Americans are having in private today. Many people are waking up to the realities around us. It is no time to stop discussion.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#39. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#38)
JT let me know that he's taken a leave of absence and will return in full effect as soon as he can. Indeterminate time-frame and he wishes 4um all the best while he's away.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#40. To: GreyLmist (#38)
If I thought media coverage of this issue were all about restoring the republic to is halcyon days of neighborly constables and justice for all, I would be the first to support them. This situation is more complicated than that.
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