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Title: Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes, Impossible To Hijack!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5NnBQJ5at4
Published: Jan 24, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-01-24 14:13:06 by Horse
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#80. To: Katniss (#64)

BTW, if you're ever in the area, let me know. I'll take you down there and show you where everything used to be, where that 'cab' was, the flight path, where I was run off by an abusive and brainless LEO for publicly taking pics in public a day later, where gas station used to be, which IMO is no a coincidence that it's no longer there, i.e., part of the ongoing coverup.

I can tell you how to find the camera view on the VDOT camera. If you look at it in the a.m., when this happened, in between 9 and 10 a.m., that camera is always pointed towards the northwestern skyline to capture the inbound commuting traffic, as it's a traffic camera, and from it you can see the highways as well as the entire skyline which easily would have captured no less than 10 seconds of the last part of that flight.

Thanks for the kindly invite. I'd like to be able to visit there but chances are slim to none.

I think you're the third person, afaik, to report having been prevented from taking pictures there soon after. Maybe Judicial Watch could file a Freedom of Information Act request for the Virginia Department of Transportation footage during the time period in question that day. It managed to get 2 additional films released by the Pentagon in 2006.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   6:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: RickyJ (#2)

They definitely were "hijacked" in a sense because they never reached their destinations...

CTers usually prefer to state that the planes were *diverted* to a place or places *unknown*...congrats...you may be on the road to recovery...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   9:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: NeoconsNailed (#77)

Snowden Probably Knows About 911 - Daily Squib

www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/4167-snowden-probably-knows-about-911.html

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-01   13:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war (#81) (Edited)

CTers

The official story is a ridiculous Conspiracy Theory, war, that admittedly would be unacceptable by court standards of integrity and is why the invasion of Afghanistan was launched instead -- which makes you and others arrogantly promoting it fanatic Conspiracy Theorists in denial.

Edited for capitalization and punctuation + word insert.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   14:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: GreyLmist (#83) (Edited)

The official story is a ridiculous conspiracy theory...

Yea...never have planes been hijacked...nor been used as missiles...a massive explosion and collision don't result in massive damage...10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced, ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war, GreyLmist (#84)

10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced,

MOST of which burnt up OUTSIDE the towers, and what was left burned for only several minutes before being spent.

ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance

Sure there were OFFICE fires, but they burned for less than an hour, and as the towers acted as HUGE heatsinks, there's no possible way for temperatures to have reached anywhere close enough to weaken steel.

and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

Gravity doesn't pull you through the floor you're standing on now does it? Are you travelling through the core of the earth as we speak, or is the floor you're standing on remaining in place?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: FormerLurker (#85)

MOST of which burnt up OUTSIDE the towers

You have no proof of that whatsoever...in fact, what analysis has been done puts the amount burned as ignited mist outside of the building @ around 15%...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: FormerLurker (#85) (Edited)

Gravity doesn't pull you through the floor you're standing on now does it?

Unless the 17 floors above me are falling on me...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: FormerLurker (#85)

Sure there were OFFICE fires, but they burned for less than an hour

Duh...

South Tower hit @ 9:03 AM...collapses @ 9:59 AM...56 minutes...less than an hour...

Congrats...you finally stated something *truthful*...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#88)

Congrats...you finally stated something *truthful*...

Congrates, you FINALLY admit to something that is true.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#87)

Unless the 17 floors above me are falling on me...

And why would they be falling on you? Even if they did, YOU'D be squished like a bug, but the floors below ALWAYS supported the weight above.

Now sure, if the floor you're standing on is damaged, IT might fail, but not the 70 or so floors below it. ESPECIALLY when the floors above you turned to dust as they collapsed and much of the mass of those floors went UP or OUTWARDS due to air pressure blowing them in those directions as they "fell".


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#88)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

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titorite  posted on  2015-04-01   16:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: titorite (#91)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

Greater weight of the upper floors...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   16:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#86) (Edited)

You have no proof of that whatsoever...in fact, what analysis has been done puts the amount burned as ignited mist outside of the building @ around 15%...

You are either chronically challenged in the intellectual department, or you are a HUGE liar.

Not only do videos of the South Tower impact depict huge fireballs created outside the tower, but even FEMA states in their report that a significant percentage of fuel was spent in those fireballs, and the remaining fuel was spent after the first few minutes.

Here's a link to the FEMA report if you wish to educate yourself (see pages 2- 21 and 2-22);

WTC1 and WTC2 (FEMA PDF)

Do you not read up on anything before you make such inane declarations?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

Greater weight of the upper floors...

LOL!!!


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#92)

thats not a very good guess if you are.trying to argue fire as the cause. see when the second tower allegedly got hit the big fire ball we all saw was supposed to be all the fuel burning outside. see the first tower allegedly got a direct hit putting most of the.fuel into the.building BUT the.second tkwer was a corner hit distrubuting most of.the.fuel into the air .

so if you wanna say fire caused it and tbat it fell first because it had more weight on a fire weakened load... thats fine....

can you tell me what floor the impact was on in both buildings?

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titorite  posted on  2015-04-01   16:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: war (#84) (Edited)

The official story is a ridiculous Conspiracy Theory...

Yea...never have planes been hijacked...nor been used as missiles...a massive explosion and collision don't result in massive damage...10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced, ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

Don't be absurd. That planes have been hijacked before doesn't mean they were that day in the conventional sense of terrorist pilots aboard commandeering the aircraft. A condundrum for Official Story indoctrinees is explaining how, for instance, our Military jets could intercept the foreign-based and far distant Achille Lauro hijack for a safe landing but somehow missed doing so here 4 times in one day. There's nobody in this forum that I'm aware of who is under any impression that planes couldn't be used as missiles before then. Those who question the official version have continually been pointing out, lo these many years, that the Pentagon staff, too, were well aware of that as a possibile occurrence and defensively drilled for it. It's G. W. Bush and his civilian admins who claimed to be clueless about such; so taunt them about it, not us. The WTC was not engulfed in flames -- just localized fires that diminished, as news footage shows. The alleged strikezone jumpers at the windows weren't even demonstrably under threat of smoke inhalation, much less about to be incinerated. The alleged plane impact damage to the buildings is comparable to an axe blow on tree trunks that likewise wouldn't be much structurally destabilized so easily. Your pipeline assertion about Russia doesn't match the reported intimidations of Afghanistan in Pre-9/11 "negotiations". We can discuss "circuitous" demolishment of the Towers, perhaps by electrification of the steel framing (which could even reduce it selectively to the consistency of iron-sand, if need be) in conjunction with strategically placed welding "erasers"/arc gougers (at salvageable-steel points, which would sound explosive) and by sound waves directed through the concrete to alter its chemistry, powered by the Consolidated Edison plant underground there -- right about the time you get done explaining the gov-issued "cell phone calls" in-flight that the technology then doesn't.

Edited spelling, spacing + rewording at 5th, last and next to last sentences.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   16:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#84)

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

Sure, if you don't mind mushroom clouds appearing everywhere on the horizon, or directly over your head.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: war (#92) (Edited)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

Greater weight of the upper floors...

Didn't you say elsewhere that the upper floors angularly toppled over rather than falling directly downward? -- which would be less weight on the floors below.

Comparing the Towers to steel box beams and the alleged impact zones as similar to the first deconstruction dismantling-step of material removal to make segments of a beam topple over, a welder could take out triangular parts on each side of that space, pointed towards the back like this: < > and it likely still wouldn't slant forward that far up and topple off until they stepped around to the back area and blowtorched it across from one triangular point to the other.

Edited for a word replacement.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   18:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#72) (Edited)

I would like that. Thanks. I'll be in Maryland mid May for my niece's wedding, but only for a weekend and won't have time for anything or anyone other than family. I was actually born and raised in the Silver Spring/Wheaton area.

Sure, just let me know.

I'm not sure you'd want to live in the SS/Wheaton area today. When's the last time you were up this way?

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   0:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: GreyLmist (#79)

Likely, the footage was seized because of what it wouldn't have recorded -- a plane strike.

And what it would have, a missile strike.

I'm sure that there were cameras on the property covering the perimeter in the event of anything suspicious approaching, and as you say, the helipad would have been on video too, some if not most of which would have had a horizon shot.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   0:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: GreyLmist (#80)

I think you're the third person, afaik, to report having been prevented from taking pictures there soon after. Maybe Judicial Watch could file a Freedom of Information Act request for the Virginia Department of Transportation footage during the time period in question that day. It managed to get 2 additional films released by the Pentagon in 2006.

I took a bunch and was chased off by some stooge cop decided that he was the most important person on the planet that evening.

And frankly, what should have been to hide from pictures being taken several hundred yards away? It was public, If I had been elsewhere with a tele lense it would have been OK?

Good luck with that VDOT footage. I'm guessing that was part of the confiscated lot and that since then it's been erased. I can't imagine that they would keep them that long anyway. Under normal circumstances there wouldn't be any reason to.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   0:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker (#98) (Edited)

Didn't you say elsewhere that the upper floors angularly toppled over rather than falling directly downward? -- which would be less weight on the floors below.

No. As they fell they began to tilt....as is clearly indicated on the videos...

Here's a pic from a CT site so it will have credibility in your *mind*:

In fact, it tilted for a number of reasons not the least of which was because the damage to the supporting columns was not uniformly horizontal...another annoying fact that the controlled demolition crowd cannot accept...

Note also the visible fire...which FormerLurker claims were *out*....

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   7:24:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: FormerLurker (#90) (Edited)

And why would they be falling on you?

See my previous comment about gravity...add on to that something hundreds of feet in the air over my head with nothing holding it up...

Even if they did, YOU'D be squished like a bug

Thank you, Mr. Obvious...now apply that to the floors in the path of a falling object that weighs millions of tons...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   7:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Katniss, GreyLmist (#80)

I'll take you down there and show you where everything used to be, where that 'cab' was, the flight path, where I was run off by an abusive and brainless LEO for publicly taking pics in public a day later, where gas station used to be, which IMO is no a coincidence that it's no longer there, i.e., part of the ongoing coverup.

The Pentagon has a very wide *no photo* zone around it.

Very wide...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   7:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: titorite (#95)

thats not a very good guess

Good thing that I'm not guessing then but merely stating fact which is ALWAYS good.

if you are.trying to argue fire as the cause. see when the second tower allegedly got hit the big fire ball we all saw was supposed to be all the fuel burning outside

Uh...no...about 15% of the fuel burned outside...

can you tell me what floor the impact was on in both buildings?

North Tower...90-100...center impact ~95

South...75-85...center impact ~78...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   8:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: GreyLmist (#96)

That planes have been hijacked before doesn't mean they were that day

If they weren't hijacked why did they not reach their destination?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   8:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: FormerLurker (#94)

LOL!!!

17 floor difference in center of impact = millions of tons...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   9:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: FormerLurker (#97)

Sure, if you don't mind mushroom clouds appearing everywhere on the horizon, or directly over your head.

That kind of answers that doesn't it?

Also, IIRC, the Taliban didn't control the area where the still yet to be built pipeline will traverse...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   9:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: FormerLurker (#93)

FEMA states in their report that a significant percentage of fuel was spent in those fireballs...

In point of fact the very FEMA report you link to says no such thing...

The discussion of fuel dispersal and the fireball begins on 2-20...

Again, your bullshit has been *falsified*...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   9:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: war (#109)

Again, your bullshit has been *falsified*...

Anyone with working eyes will see on page 2-22 that FEMA states the jet fuel was spent within the first few minutes.

So that makes you a liar war, but I'm sure everyone on the net who's ever read your posts already knows that.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-02   10:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: FormerLurker (#110)

Anyone with working eyes will see on page 2-22 that FEMA states the jet fuel was spent within the first few minutes.

Anyone with working eyes will see that on THIS page I never disputed how long it took for the fuel, turned accelerant, to burn...

Nice try, Strawman...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   10:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: war (#105)

the south tower was not a.direct impact not even according the the governments nist offical story. it was alleged to be an indirwct corner impact.

i think you may care more about arguing and less about facts.

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titorite  posted on  2015-04-02   10:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: titorite (#112) (Edited)

the south tower was not a.direct impact not even according the the governments nist offical story. it was alleged to be an indirwct corner impact.

The plane hit the tower...that makes it a *direct* hit...for it to be an *indirect* hit it would have had to have hit something *else* first...where it directly hit is inconsequential...

You're trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper, outdoors, in the winter...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   10:51:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: war (#109)

Tell me, what's it like being a poster-boy for the establishment?

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   10:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Katniss (#114)

Tell me, what's it like being a poster-boy for the establishment?

I'm anything but...

You have no idea how I wish that this bullshit was true...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   10:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: All (#113)

I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks that a plane came in at a vertical angle, entirely disappeared through that hole, then through several other walls at a no angle, i.e. horizontal to the ground, is either a moron or a willing dupe/willful ignoramus. There is no other alternative.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   10:59:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: war (#115)

You come across as a defender of establishment lies.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   10:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Katniss (#116)

I'm sorry, but anyone that (sic) thinks that a plane came in at a vertical angle...

You don't need to apologize but who *thinks* that 77 went in *vertically*?

Given that it took out 5 light poles...some hundreds of yards from the Pentagon, that would have been a neat trick...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   11:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Katniss (#117)

You come across as a defender of establishment lies.

For nearly 14 years no one has demonstrated that they are lies...

On the other hand, what has been presented to me over that same time period, and is on display on this very page, has been very easily falsified...

I am a big believer in Occam's Razor...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   11:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Katniss (#116)

then through several other walls at a no angle, i.e. horizontal to the ground

Which way do you want it...vertically or horizontally? I ask because your statements are wholly incongruous to each other...

Any plane going from inflight to the ground is following a vertical flight path...for any object to hit one object and then continue through that object to impact an object existing on a horizontal plane directly behind that object would have to be, at some point, traveling horizontally...that's basic geometry...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-02   11:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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