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Title: Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes, Impossible To Hijack!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5NnBQJ5at4
Published: Jan 24, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-01-24 14:13:06 by Horse
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#356. To: GreyLmist (#350)
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Sorry...you don't get to define how I rebut your nonsense which appears to be that all of the paper in WTC should have spontaneously combusted even though anyone can see that a) the building was not solely made of nor did it solely contain, paper b) the area of the fires was at the impact zone... I turned my attention to steel beams that fell in freefall next to the building as it collapsed Huh? Neither he nor you have provided any video support for that statement.... --Are you a *Jew*?
Putting aside the issue that you refuse to state why this is *anomalous*, what's that black stuff on the exterior of the WTC? Or this: Or this: You seeing bright shiny aluminum there? --Are you a *Jew*?
The collapse starts when the penthouse collapses which is not shown on your video...I finally got FL to *admit* to the truth that the collapse started sooner...it's time for you as well... Start around 2:40ish...note what is in my video that is not in yours... https://youtu.be/A34_NXwLyfo It's an Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth video -- Part 2 of 3. You can dispute it with them at the YouTube site. As for the video you posted by MrSkunkwork100...aka MrLockheedMartin (?!), "Establishmentarian VIP", I reckon. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I couldn't care less if it's a Barney video which it may as well be...they make the same *error*..NIST starts the clock when the penthouse collapses which is what my video shows and yours does not...your video LIES about when NIST starts the clock too... --Are you a *Jew*?
Yes -- way more than there should be after the blasts and so much smoke. Doubtful anybody here but you wouldn't agree and you almost never do, so no need for me to post a bunch of counter-pictures too. Many pics online that others can compare themselves to yours. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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Wha...chuckle...huh? Doubtful anybody here but you wouldn't agree and you almost never do, so no need for me to post a bunch of counter-pictures too. Many pics online that others can compare themselves to yours... Translated: I've fallen and I can't get up... --Are you a *Jew*?
Your definition of "collapse" differs from what the video shows. A roof collapse inwards isn't what most people think of when they say "total collapse". The TOTAL COLLAPSE of WTC7, where ALL sections of the building began a descent into its own footprint, at or near free fall speed, is what I mean by TOTAL COLLAPSE. So if I wiggle my fingers before I drop a ball to measure the time it takes for the ball to drop, would you include the finger wiggling time in the total descent time? The roof collapsed because of what happened 30odd floors below it... --Are you a *Jew*?
If I respond with an equally ridiculous and spurious post will you respond that I'm claiming something *different* now? --Are you a *Jew*?
To clarify, the words "the supporting structure is instantaneously destroyed across all quadrants ", I mean ALL SUPPORT ACROSS ALL WEIGHT BEARING ELEMENTS OF THE LOWER STRUCTURE IS INSTANTANEOUSLY LOST". Do capital letters help you out? Can you not understand what it means to lose ALL support from the lower structure? In other words war, you can't include time PRIOR to the BUILDING DESCENDING, as it is the BUILDING DESCENT WHICH IS BEING MEASURED IN TERMS OF DESCENT TIME. Capish? No...the volume of my laughter is the same. True or False: A controlled demolition relies upon gravity? --Are you a *Jew*?
The building was descending at that point...the penthouse most certainly did not collapse in any other direction...as the weight load shifted from the failure of the columns to other columns which failed the main collapse began... Quick again make the ridiculous argument that gravity doesn't affect all falling things equally and that only a controlled demolition makes gravity work... --Are you a *Jew*?
Sure, but it also relies upon explosives. Does that help? PART of the ROOF fell INTO the building, but the 4 CORNERS of the TOP of the BUILDING didn't budge, nor did the outer 4 WALLS (unless you include the bulging outwards due to the apparent explosives). As far as rate of descent of the BUILDING itself (which includes all FOUR CORNERS OF THE TOP AND THE FOUR OUTER WALLS), that HAS to be measured from the point in time the ENTIRE STRUCTURE BEGINS ITS DESCENT. Did you ever graduate Jr. High? Please use the edit feature so that mess of a question makes some sense *above* the no sense that it makes now. Thanks. --Are you a *Jew*?
And those explosives do what? --Are you a *Jew*?
Wasn't a question genius.
A collapse goes in what direction? Up? The fact is, the collapse went in stages...it was not all at once...that is the fatal blow to your CD nonsense...the roof collapsed because of column failure and not because of explosives so powerful ye able to be unseen were detonated...your claim also is that the main collapse was the result of a controlled demolition... When has a controlled demolition ever been done in two stages starting with the only the top corner of a building? Ooopsie...that logic mixed with a healthy dose of reality rears its ugly head yet again... --Are you a *Jew*?
Blow things up. That, and cause a TOTAL failure of SUPPORT causing the structure to COLLAPSE into its own footprint in most cases, unless for whatever reason it's desired to topple the structure, as in smokestack demolitions for instance. Who could tell is the point... --Are you a *Jew*?
What *things*...(please limit your answer to the materials used in building construction)? --Are you a *Jew*?
So to you, descent time begins when ANY ONE thing falls, such as a window or chimney. So if the chimney fell 10 minutes before the ENTIRE BUILDING collapsed, you'd add ten minutes to the descent time, eh? Of course YOU would, if it suited your agenda. Don't have time today to play your childish games. Why don't you go haunt Stone's site for some fun, you might actually find people who agree with you there.
The collapse of the Penthouse is the beginning of the end for that building and you can see a visible pinch near the east side of the roof after the penthouse goes. I'm still waiting for you to explain to *us* why column failure caused only by controlled demolition is the only means by which gravity affects the fall of a building. --Are you a *Jew*?
You obviously used your *engineering* skills and figured out where that was going. Why is it that in your little bizarro world that only explosives can cause columns to fail? --Are you a *Jew*?
...actually me posting here is me having fun at Pebblie Poo's expense... --Are you a *Jew*?
Since b), localizing the diminishing fires to impact zone, is the only part there that doesn't sound thoroughly like you're not a serious debater or even reader -- just here mainly to fill the place voluminously with your rumbling disagreeableness -- I'll be redirecting my inquiry (from way back at #189) about the compacter WTC 7 steel heat-durability in comparison to steel in the Towers to FormerLurker, not you henceforth (allegedly a "corner-officer" of the former US Steel Building by the WTC). Also, I'm gonna have to conclude by now that you won't be providing any info, even if you could, about "pre-planned demolition docs that likely had to be submitted for all 3 of the highest WTC buildings before any of them were approved to be built", as requested way back at #213. Edited sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Please don't have a *snit* fit because I prefer whiting to your red herrings...
--Are you a *Jew*?
Thanks for the link, Neo.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Come to NY...I'll show you around...and I didn't have an *office*...I sat on a trading desk about 15 feet long across the North Side of the floor in the NW corner...I had 2 others to my left and 4 across from me beginning directly to my left...Century 21 was at my back and the WTC complex to my right...I had Brooks Brothers on the first floor and Starbucks in the Lobby...by the time I was in the building (late 1998 until early 2002 with a three month pause in late 2001)...it was the *former* Merrill Lynch Building... --Are you a *Jew*?
Nope. But it still wouldn't stop you from trying to make that a *silly* point... --Are you a *Jew*?
I'd like to visit but, as I said earlier, I'm a peasant and that's too far for me to walk from here. Btw, WTC 7 having been an Emergency Management Center, I'm not convinced the topmost section of that building did collapse in the sense of structural failure. Can't be sure there weren't some mechanisms in place to lower it down in time of war or something. Edited sentence 2. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Fung Wa Bus... --Are you a *Jew*?
reason.com | Dec. 16, 2014: "Fung Wah, the iconic Chinatown bus company that became famous for charging just $10 to travel between Boston and New York City, will reopen early next year." Sounds reasonable but I'm a person who actually had to walk miles to get home from work once because I didn't have a nickle for a bus transfer. Wouldn't want to have to walk home from New York in a pinch. It's getting to be the rainy season. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ha... Son takes it from time to time from Boston... --Are you a *Jew*?
13 minute video. Turn volume down at 10:20-10:46 -- loud buzzing noise. ... firehoses in use throughout the day at the complex (and as late as a camera recorded timestamp of 4:06:19 PM, when water appears to be wasted) but never aimed at WTC 7; like the firemen were unaware that it was burning at all ... examples at these video timestamps: 7:09-7:46 ... 8:07-9:35 ... 10:52-11:11 ... 11:40-11:50 ... 12:21- 12:42 ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I went to Harvard there, really...for a few minute walkabout. :) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Very nice area for a walkabout... Boston is a great city... --Are you a *Jew*?
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#357. To: GreyLmist (#348)
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It's the inexplicable lack of smoke damage to the exterior of the Towers from the blasts and sooty burnings.
#358. To: war (#354)
MAJOR FAIL...
#359. To: GreyLmist (#358)
It's an Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth video -- Part 2 of 3. You can dispute it with them at the YouTube site. As for the video you posted by MrSkunkwork100...aka MrLockheedMartin (?!), "Establishmentarian VIP", I reckon.
#360. To: war (#357)
You seeing bright shiny aluminum there?
#361. To: GreyLmist (#360)
#362. To: GreyLmist (#360)
Yes -- way more than there should be after the blasts and so much smoke...
#363. To: war, GreyLmist (#354)
I finally got FL to *admit* to the truth that the collapse started sooner...it's time for you as well...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#364. To: war, GreyLmist (#359)
NIST starts the clock when the penthouse collapses which is what my video shows and yours does not...your video LIES about when NIST starts the clock too...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#365. To: FormerLurker (#363)
A roof collapse inwards isn't what most people think of when they say "total collapse".
#366. To: FormerLurker (#364)
So if I wiggle my fingers before I drop a ball to measure the time it takes for the ball to drop, would you include the finger wiggling time in the total descent time?
#367. To: war (#355)
Can you provide any video which shows an *instantaneous* destruction? I have been unable to find any...each and every one reveals a building collapse in sequence from top to bottom...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#368. To: war (#366)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#369. To: FormerLurker (#367)
Do capital letters help you out?
#370. To: FormerLurker (#368)
In other words war, you can't include time PRIOR to the BUILDING DESCENDING
#371. To: war (#369)
A controlled demolition relies upon gravity?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#372. To: war (#370)
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The building was descending at that point...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#373. To: FormerLurker (#372)
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PART of the ROOF fell INTO the building, but the 4 CORNER of the TOP of the BUILDING didn't budge, nor did the outer 4 WALLS (unless you include the bulging outwards due to the apparent explosives).
#374. To: FormerLurker (#371)
Sure, but it also relies upon explosives. Does that help?
#375. To: war (#373)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#376. To: FormerLurker (#372)
As far as rate of descent of the BUILDING itself (which includes all FOUR CORNERS OF THE TOP AND THE FOUR OUTER WALLS), that HAS to be measured from the point in time the ENTIRE STRUCTURE BEGINS ITS DESCENT.
#377. To: war (#374)
And those explosives do what?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#378. To: FormerLurker (#375)
Wasn't a question genius.
#379. To: FormerLurker (#377)
Blow things up.
#380. To: war (#376)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#381. To: war (#379)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#382. To: FormerLurker (#380)
So to you, descent time begins when ANY ONE thing falls, such as a window or chimney.
#383. To: FormerLurker (#381)
Don't have time today to play your childish games.
#384. To: FormerLurker (#381)
Why don't you go haunt Stone's site for some fun...
#385. To: war, FormerLurker (#356)
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Sorry...you don't get to define how I rebut your nonsense which appears to be that all of the paper in WTC should have spontaneously combusted even though anyone can see that a) the building was not solely made or nor did it solely contain, paper b) the area of the fires was at the impact zone...
#386. To: GreyLmist (#385)
#387. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#361)
#388. To: GreyLmist (#385)
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not you henceforth (allegedly a "corner-officer" of the former US Steel building by the WTC
#389. To: FormerLurker (#380)
So if the chimney fell 10 minutes before the ENTIRE BUILDING collapsed, you'd add ten minutes to the descent time, eh?
#390. To: war, FormerLurker (#388)
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Come to NY...I'll show you around...and I didn't have an *office*...I sat on a trading desk about 15 feet long across the North Side of the floor in the NW corner...I had 2 others to my left and 4 across from me beginning directly to my left...Century 21 was at my back and the WTC complex to my right...I had Brooks Brothers on the first floor and Starbucks in the Lobby...by the time I was in the building (late 1998 until early 2002 with a three month pause in late 2001)...it was the *former* Merrill Lynch Building...
#391. To: GreyLmist (#390)
I'd like to visit but, as I said earlier, I'm a peasant and that's too far for me to walk from here...
#392. To: war (#391)
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Fung Wa Bus
#393. To: GreyLmist (#392)
#394. To: All (#241)
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4um Title: NIST FOIA: William Cirone, Clips 01-49 (WTC Complex & WTC7 after 10:28am)
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#395. To: war (#393)
Son takes it from time to time from Boston...
#396. To: GreyLmist (#395)
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