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Title: Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes, Impossible To Hijack!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5NnBQJ5at4
Published: Jan 24, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-01-24 14:13:06 by Horse
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#61. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#52) (Edited)

At 2:12-3:09 of the 2nd video in the playlist, Field McConnell talks about the UK's mega-corporation, SERCO, controlling America's nuclear codes. That's worrisome and essentially treasonous at the highest levels here.

Edited formatting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-03-31   16:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: X-15, Katniss, christine (#23)

These people (passengers/crew) had cellphones, why didn't anybody call and say that they were being lined up to be shot or were being held captive somewhere???? To go from the accepted to the unorthodox requires lots of questions to be answered beyond mere dismissal "oh, they were shot somewhere or are living with Elvis Presley on a deserted island". Just sayin'....

It would have been simple enough to introduce a knockout gas or something more lethal into the ventilation system onboard the aircraft.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-31   16:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: GreyLmist (#60)

Ok. Am asking, Katniss, what your Pentagon-insights might be in assessment of the issues at #51.

Several years prior to that date there were multiple cameras of the entrance and entrance areas, the views of which one could see at the guard desk upon entering. The same was true of all sides of the building and property. It's pure gullibility to believe the Fed's account of this and the people that have ever worked there know this.

There was also a VDOT camera that pans that entire skyline that time of day. One could access it online despite the internet having been in its infancy. VDOT has always kept footage for a certain amount of time.

There was also a gas station for military members only right in the flight path that I gassed up at numerous times that had video yet had it stolen along with 31 other known videos within 3 hours of the event. I have to believe that the VDOT footage was also taken or destroyed as a part of that.

There is an entrance/exit to the building on the helipad side, which is the side in question. It's pure assinitity for anyone to attempt to tell you that there were no cameras with 24/7 surveillance of any and all exits to that building.

Even once in, people could only access certain areas of the building pending their levels of access. Generally speaking the further in in the rings one went, with five "rings," the greater clearances one needed. Anyone without those clearances could not access nor be permitted entry into those areas. Areas were also segregated by military brand, dept., etc. with permissions only being given to those needing access.

Again, to think that the exterior doors were not well covered via cameras is nothing but pure gullibility.

In other words, don't believe for a second that the only available footage was that joke of three frames, or whatever it was, that the Feds finally released years after the actual occurrence. There was no national interest that could not have been removed from that film to have it released within days if not hours of that event. Frankly, I cannot imagine anything sensitive at all in it, never say never though.

Either way, the fact that footage from 32 private cameras in that immediate area were stolen, all within 3 hours, tells us all that we need to know. They wouldn't even have been able to figure out where all of those 32 were in three hours much less have them all confiscated during that time. Clearly the due diligence thereof was done well prior to that day.

The tours of the building more or less simply "feel good" tours. You really don't see much of any real value, it's mostly museum type stuff with a tremendously limited amount of access to the actual building. I'm not even sure that they run the tours anymore although I'd guess that they do.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-31   21:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: GreyLmist, Christine (#60)

BTW, if you're ever in the area, let me know. I'll take you down there and show you where everything used to be, where that 'cab' was, the flight path, where I was run off by an abusive and brainless LEO for publicly taking pics in public a day later, where gas station used to be, which IMO is no a coincidence that it's no longer there, i.e., part of the ongoing coverup.

I can tell you how to find the camera view on the VDOT camera. If you look at it in the a.m., when this happened, in between 9 and 10 a.m., that camera is always pointed towards the northwestern skyline to capture the inbound commuting traffic, as it's a traffic camera, and from it you can see the highways as well as the entire skyline which easily would have captured no less than 10 seconds of the last part of that flight.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-31   21:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#62)

It would have been simple enough to introduce a knockout gas or something more lethal into the ventilation system onboard the aircraft.

Who says that the calls weren't staged? That would be incredibly easy to do.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-31   21:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Katniss (#63) (Edited)

the really real stuff would be ubderground.

patagon pentalawn.., when one studies crash physics one can not help to.wonder. "how come a plane cane crash through.a.building like the pentacon(sarc) ... but fail to blow away.wooden spools."

from 7 to the lawn the epa failed to act upon, ive disected 911 completly and what i discovered is that even among those who care, we seem to discombulated to effect meaningful change... even when irrefutable proof is given before ones eyes... we are still left with a majority of ignorant docille IGNORANT sheeple.... and i hate the word sheeple. with a passion... yet what can be done when the majority think dual wielding gun slingers can target with accuracy.... sandy hook, ft hood, bosron etc etc.. the propaganda matrix.relies on. propaganda. to definded ones mi.d is to learn their tech.iques. and share with others that they might be equally well armed.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-31   21:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Horse (#0)

i have bitched about this subject for years. the hard.ware software issue.. it is as in conteovertable as low alltitude friction. .. f1 racing and 911 ..... i dont get why so few care and i can only attribute it to our propaganda matrix.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-31   21:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Katniss (#65)

Who says that the calls weren't staged? That would be incredibly easy to do.

That goes without saying, and is especially true since cell phone calls from cruising altitude were impossible back in 2001.

I was simply using X-15's comment to bring up the notion that the passengers and crew could have been killed off onboard the plane with a lethal agent introduced into the ventilation system, allowing the plane to be flown remotely without any interference.

Of course with the crew and passengers deceased, those calls would need to come from someone else. Perhaps someone onboard (who had a gas mask stuffed in their carry on bag) could have taken some of the passenger's phones, taken out the SIM cards, stuck them into a reader which would have transmitted the specifics to a radio center with the proper equipment to emulate the owner's voice.

Now exactly how they obtained samples of the correct voices, hmmm, NSA perhaps?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-31   21:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: titorite (#66)

911 is a complete ruse, we're on the same sheet there.

That hole in the Pentagon wall quite clearly isn't big enough to have a medium sized commmercial airliner go into it. Then when we're expected to believe that the wings folded up and followed the fuselage into the hole, and as you say with no marks on the lawn, all the lamposts undisturbed, the spools fine, etc., people have to a trained monkey not to see through that.

Unfortunately we have a nation full of trained monkeys. Untrained monkeys are brighter.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-31   21:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: FormerLurker (#68)

Yeah, agree. A minor issue for anyone that would carry this out.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-31   21:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

People who want to take the mass media version of things at face value are desperately fighting off the inevitable conclusion that we are chumped and swindled about every large subject. To accept that 9/11 is an inside job is to admit the people running society are vicious beasts that will do absolutely anything to keep themselves in power.... except go straight and give people what they actually want and need, of course.

This site has got two big big threads going on 9/11. People done a valiant job laying out everything it should take to convince the hardest skeptic in both. Bear in mind that there are Jews and their clones crawling all over cyberspace throwing monkey wrenches into forums strictly to gum up the progress of truth. This rot gets intelligent, dedicated people mired in strategic brawls that will never end if these gremlins have anything to do with it.

I’m not accusing anybody here of being one, but it sure looks that way sometimes.

I tried searching this and the 400+ reply thread for any mention of Dr. Judy Wood or the possibility that the planes that hit the towers were unmanned drones. There aren’t any such mentions, right? Dr. Wood makes a brilliant case for 9/11 having been done by some kind of directed energy deal. Was it Dave vonKleist who posited the drones? Come on, the USG has all the top state-of-the-art technology at all times, and the science is advancing so fast that renowned Thinkers are warning of singularity. If they’re developing materials that can make a person or object invisible they can make it look like planes are hitting the towers and Pentacon when there really aren’t any – and exactly that type thing is reportedly in their toybox as well. FreedomsPhoenix.com does a great job of keeping up with wild tech breakthroughs among other things.

I’m no scientist, but I know it’s absolutely impossible for a plane to hit the Pentacon and leave no real evidence on the ground. For my money the whole 9/11 caper was prepared detonations including Shanksville, or a mixture of them and Judy Wood’s thesis. Believe she was fired from her university job for it. She doesn’t actually present conclusions but by the end of her presentation they’re all but inevitable.

Either scenario cancels out the issue of so many people keeping silent.... but anybody who has trouble believing legions of people would shut up about something this major doesn’t know human nature very well. Everywhere Jew world order evil is going on, you’ve got cleaning crew, bartenders, tons of office staff ad inf. witnessing it and keeping mum, if nothing else just to remain employed. Sometimes they’re threatened, lots of the time it’s not necessary – that’s the worst part. A term for this is needed – it’s similar to Stockholm Syndrome except that the victims don’t love their tormentors, they only fear them or simply do what everybody else does on a thinkless herd basis. The major subjects on which the truth is MIA could take up the dark side of the moon.

Even when witnesses to something like 9/11 do speak up, the mentality of the sheeple at large (with the media, schools, churches and politicians pounding establishment BS into their heads 24/7) makes for an uphill battle.

There are videos of numerous US presidents and other top officials calling ex cathedra for a new world order. In PNAC, the Jew power mafia openly called for a “new Pearl Harbor event” to put the next big scare on the sheeple. Wouldn’t brazen stuff like that mean a 9/11 is logically to be expected?

Cui bono? The result of such offensives isn’t fired or hanged officials, it’s huge advances for them – in this case the instantaneous creation of the Department of Home Insecurity, with TSA and how much else springing up right in its footsteps. As the establishment cracks the whip and millions of new suckers tremble with each episode, the perps plan their next move for when the current fairy tale wears off.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-31   23:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Katniss (#64)

I would like that. Thanks. I'll be in Maryland mid May for my niece's wedding, but only for a weekend and won't have time for anything or anyone other than family. I was actually born and raised in the Silver Spring/Wheaton area.

Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

christine  posted on  2015-03-31   23:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: randge (#53)

ABELDANGER. Getting close to the whole ball of wax on 911.

911 IS IT LIVE OR IS IT LIVERY - YouTube

Am only a few minutes into Part II but wanted to note an interesting section in Part I on the American Revolution for independence from Britain and what's described there, at 13:04-14:38, as the Fake Peace Talk of 9/11/1776. Additional reference: Staten Island Peace Conference - Wikipedia

Also, at 2:09-2:31, footage is shown of the 1st tower coming down -- strangely, without noticably damaging the other one next to it, even though buildings farther away were reportedly destructed from flying debris and projectiles.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-03-31   23:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: NeoconsNailed (#71)

So well reasoned and I agree with everything you wrote. Think about all who were involved with the Kennedy assassination and how many had to have been silenced either forcibly or willingly. I liken 9/11 to the assassination as I believe that once that was accomplished, the controllers knew they could do whatever they wished. Both events were coups.

Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

christine  posted on  2015-04-01   0:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine, NeoconsNailed (#74)

WTC insurance fraud? Silverstein “trial” runs Monday through Wednesday

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein – who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 – will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial,

www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/15/larry-trial/

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-01   0:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: christine (#74)

Truer words were never spoken. The threat of murder is a huge factor. The Clinton body count is a long established presence online and there's an equivalent for each president as he emerges and racks up kills. The bodies strewn in the wake of the JFK hit are sobering to say the least, starting with Oswald and Ruby. Neither of them is particularly missed, but it's the principle of the thing.

The wink -- and the smiles:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01743/johnson_1743537c.jpg

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesE/thewink.jpg

Including Jackie's?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-01   0:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#75)

Fantastic news -- I had no idea!! Alas, he's got the dough to buy any judge. Would love to know why it took them 14 years. Yeah, the insurance fraud and his "pull it" speech are among the painfully obvious smoking guns. The day the brass claimed to find one of the Ayrabs' passport in the WTC wreckage was surely the lowest point in public intelligence in history.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-01   0:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: NeoconsNailed (#77)

Silverstein Hellerstein

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-01   0:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Katniss (#63) (Edited)

Interesting point that the various cameras in the immediate area were probably pinpointed sometime prior for quick film-confiscations (for security purposes or whatever). The Pentagon brass didn't seem to have a security issue with the grounds being filmed by those cameras on other days. Likely, the footage was seized because of what it wouldn't have recorded -- a plane strike. I'd expect there were more than door-cameras at the Pentagon that would have been pointed towards a long-derelict, incoming plane on a trajectory with it, if there had been one. The apparent lackadaisicalness about that is anomalous, imo, or even purposely appearing to be so off-guard for reasons unknown.

YouTube comment at Pentagon Attack Footage - 'Missile' and(or) 'Plane'?: "There are at least 5 nice closed circuit security cameras atop the pentagon roof's edge on this side of the building. The President was due to land on that helicopter pad in about 3 hours in which, the plane supposedly nearly flew over. This was a very 'High Security Area'" Another comment there: "the only thing hijacked on 9/11 was the US Government!"

Two film-analysis discussion points at truthandshadows.wordpress.com: "Does it not strike people as odd that we get to see footage of the WTC plane crashes over and over, but not for the pentagon?" ... "The government has no pride to wound. It has pushed the 'incompetence' theory from the beginning to distract us"

You: In other words, don't believe for a second that the only available footage was that joke of three frames, or whatever it was, that the Feds finally released years after the actual occurrence. There was no national interest that could not have been removed from that film to have it released within days if not hours of that event. Frankly, I cannot imagine anything sensitive at all in it, never say never though.

Pentagon 9/11 still images - YouTube - 29 seconds; the 5-frame "drive-in movie" originally released in 2002

Uploaded on Jan 27, 2008 by History Commons Groups

Five frames of footage taken by a security camera at the Pentagon on 9/11. The frames were released on March 7, 2002. Relevant event in the History Commons database: March 7, 2002: Plane Crashing into Pentagon Is Shown in Photos. Link: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/co... [2003 Wayback Machine archive copy -- pics show that the film was date stamped as Sep. 12, 2001]

These two short videos were released years later in 2006 after Judicial Watch made a FOIA/Freedom of Information Act request. They both show small "UFOs"/unidentified flying objects moving fast from the left side of the screen towards the strike zone. The [second first] video looks more Sci-Fi due to lens glare seeming to be something shiny on the ground until a vehicle passes by and, also, something that looks to be hovering in mid-air, probably from a lens smudge:

Uploaded on May 16, 2006 by Judicial Watch

This is previously unreleased footage of American Airlines Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon obtained by public interest group, Judicial Watch. For more info, visit JudicialWatch.org

Judicial Watch September 11 Pentagon Video -- 1 of 2 - YouTube - 3.25 minutes

Judicial Watch September 11 Pentagon Video -- 2 of 2 - YouTube - less than 3.5 minutes

Edited punctuation, stikethrough, last 2 video paths + last sentence of paragraph 1.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   4:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Katniss (#64)

BTW, if you're ever in the area, let me know. I'll take you down there and show you where everything used to be, where that 'cab' was, the flight path, where I was run off by an abusive and brainless LEO for publicly taking pics in public a day later, where gas station used to be, which IMO is no a coincidence that it's no longer there, i.e., part of the ongoing coverup.

I can tell you how to find the camera view on the VDOT camera. If you look at it in the a.m., when this happened, in between 9 and 10 a.m., that camera is always pointed towards the northwestern skyline to capture the inbound commuting traffic, as it's a traffic camera, and from it you can see the highways as well as the entire skyline which easily would have captured no less than 10 seconds of the last part of that flight.

Thanks for the kindly invite. I'd like to be able to visit there but chances are slim to none.

I think you're the third person, afaik, to report having been prevented from taking pictures there soon after. Maybe Judicial Watch could file a Freedom of Information Act request for the Virginia Department of Transportation footage during the time period in question that day. It managed to get 2 additional films released by the Pentagon in 2006.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   6:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: RickyJ (#2)

They definitely were "hijacked" in a sense because they never reached their destinations...

CTers usually prefer to state that the planes were *diverted* to a place or places *unknown*...congrats...you may be on the road to recovery...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   9:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: NeoconsNailed (#77)

Snowden Probably Knows About 911 - Daily Squib

www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/4167-snowden-probably-knows-about-911.html

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-01   13:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war (#81) (Edited)

CTers

The official story is a ridiculous Conspiracy Theory, war, that admittedly would be unacceptable by court standards of integrity and is why the invasion of Afghanistan was launched instead -- which makes you and others arrogantly promoting it fanatic Conspiracy Theorists in denial.

Edited for capitalization and punctuation + word insert.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   14:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: GreyLmist (#83) (Edited)

The official story is a ridiculous conspiracy theory...

Yea...never have planes been hijacked...nor been used as missiles...a massive explosion and collision don't result in massive damage...10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced, ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war, GreyLmist (#84)

10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced,

MOST of which burnt up OUTSIDE the towers, and what was left burned for only several minutes before being spent.

ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance

Sure there were OFFICE fires, but they burned for less than an hour, and as the towers acted as HUGE heatsinks, there's no possible way for temperatures to have reached anywhere close enough to weaken steel.

and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

Gravity doesn't pull you through the floor you're standing on now does it? Are you travelling through the core of the earth as we speak, or is the floor you're standing on remaining in place?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: FormerLurker (#85)

MOST of which burnt up OUTSIDE the towers

You have no proof of that whatsoever...in fact, what analysis has been done puts the amount burned as ignited mist outside of the building @ around 15%...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: FormerLurker (#85) (Edited)

Gravity doesn't pull you through the floor you're standing on now does it?

Unless the 17 floors above me are falling on me...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: FormerLurker (#85)

Sure there were OFFICE fires, but they burned for less than an hour

Duh...

South Tower hit @ 9:03 AM...collapses @ 9:59 AM...56 minutes...less than an hour...

Congrats...you finally stated something *truthful*...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   15:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#88)

Congrats...you finally stated something *truthful*...

Congrates, you FINALLY admit to something that is true.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#87)

Unless the 17 floors above me are falling on me...

And why would they be falling on you? Even if they did, YOU'D be squished like a bug, but the floors below ALWAYS supported the weight above.

Now sure, if the floor you're standing on is damaged, IT might fail, but not the 70 or so floors below it. ESPECIALLY when the floors above you turned to dust as they collapsed and much of the mass of those floors went UP or OUTWARDS due to air pressure blowing them in those directions as they "fell".


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   15:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#88)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

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titorite  posted on  2015-04-01   16:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: titorite (#91)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

Greater weight of the upper floors...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-04-01   16:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#86) (Edited)

You have no proof of that whatsoever...in fact, what analysis has been done puts the amount burned as ignited mist outside of the building @ around 15%...

You are either chronically challenged in the intellectual department, or you are a HUGE liar.

Not only do videos of the South Tower impact depict huge fireballs created outside the tower, but even FEMA states in their report that a significant percentage of fuel was spent in those fireballs, and the remaining fuel was spent after the first few minutes.

Here's a link to the FEMA report if you wish to educate yourself (see pages 2- 21 and 2-22);

WTC1 and WTC2 (FEMA PDF)

Do you not read up on anything before you make such inane declarations?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

Greater weight of the upper floors...

LOL!!!


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#92)

thats not a very good guess if you are.trying to argue fire as the cause. see when the second tower allegedly got hit the big fire ball we all saw was supposed to be all the fuel burning outside. see the first tower allegedly got a direct hit putting most of the.fuel into the.building BUT the.second tkwer was a corner hit distrubuting most of.the.fuel into the air .

so if you wanna say fire caused it and tbat it fell first because it had more weight on a fire weakened load... thats fine....

can you tell me what floor the impact was on in both buildings?

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titorite  posted on  2015-04-01   16:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: war (#84) (Edited)

The official story is a ridiculous Conspiracy Theory...

Yea...never have planes been hijacked...nor been used as missiles...a massive explosion and collision don't result in massive damage...10's of thousands of gallons of a volatile accelerant doesn't cause significant fires when introduced, ignited, in to a fuel rich environment doesn't result in fires of any significance and, my personal favorite, gravity doesn't *work* in a direct fashion but in a circuitous one...i.e. a falling object doesn't fall straight down...

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

Don't be absurd. That planes have been hijacked before doesn't mean they were that day in the conventional sense of terrorist pilots aboard commandeering the aircraft. A condundrum for Official Story indoctrinees is explaining how, for instance, our Military jets could intercept the foreign-based and far distant Achille Lauro hijack for a safe landing but somehow missed doing so here 4 times in one day. There's nobody in this forum that I'm aware of who is under any impression that planes couldn't be used as missiles before then. Those who question the official version have continually been pointing out, lo these many years, that the Pentagon staff, too, were well aware of that as a possibile occurrence and defensively drilled for it. It's G. W. Bush and his civilian admins who claimed to be clueless about such; so taunt them about it, not us. The WTC was not engulfed in flames -- just localized fires that diminished, as news footage shows. The alleged strikezone jumpers at the windows weren't even demonstrably under threat of smoke inhalation, much less about to be incinerated. The alleged plane impact damage to the buildings is comparable to an axe blow on tree trunks that likewise wouldn't be much structurally destabilized so easily. Your pipeline assertion about Russia doesn't match the reported intimidations of Afghanistan in Pre-9/11 "negotiations". We can discuss "circuitous" demolishment of the Towers, perhaps by electrification of the steel framing (which could even reduce it selectively to the consistency of iron-sand, if need be) in conjunction with strategically placed welding "erasers"/arc gougers (at salvageable-steel points, which would sound explosive) and by sound waves directed through the concrete to alter its chemistry, powered by the Consolidated Edison plant underground there -- right about the time you get done explaining the gov-issued "cell phone calls" in-flight that the technology then doesn't.

Edited spelling, spacing + rewording at 5th, last and next to last sentences.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   16:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#84)

PS: If we were going to bomb any nation over a pipeline in that region it would have been Russia...

Sure, if you don't mind mushroom clouds appearing everywhere on the horizon, or directly over your head.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-01   16:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: war (#92) (Edited)

how come the.tower that was hit second fell first?

Greater weight of the upper floors...

Didn't you say elsewhere that the upper floors angularly toppled over rather than falling directly downward? -- which would be less weight on the floors below.

Comparing the Towers to steel box beams and the alleged impact zones as similar to the first deconstruction dismantling-step of material removal to make segments of a beam topple over, a welder could take out triangular parts on each side of that space, pointed towards the back like this: < > and it likely still wouldn't slant forward that far up and topple off until they stepped around to the back area and blowtorched it across from one triangular point to the other.

Edited for a word replacement.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-04-01   18:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#72) (Edited)

I would like that. Thanks. I'll be in Maryland mid May for my niece's wedding, but only for a weekend and won't have time for anything or anyone other than family. I was actually born and raised in the Silver Spring/Wheaton area.

Sure, just let me know.

I'm not sure you'd want to live in the SS/Wheaton area today. When's the last time you were up this way?

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   0:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: GreyLmist (#79)

Likely, the footage was seized because of what it wouldn't have recorded -- a plane strike.

And what it would have, a missile strike.

I'm sure that there were cameras on the property covering the perimeter in the event of anything suspicious approaching, and as you say, the helipad would have been on video too, some if not most of which would have had a horizon shot.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-02   0:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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