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Title: Francis Boyle: Brzezinski wants to break Russia up into constituent units
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URL Source: http://english.pravda.ru/news/world ... 15/129834-brzezinski_russia-0/
Published: Feb 17, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-02-17 04:43:32 by Tatarewicz
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Pravda.Ru interviewed Francis Anthony Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law about the current politiclal situation in the world. We asked the professor to comment on whether the crisis between Russia and the West is as dangerous as it seems to be. How do you assess new Minsk negotiations on the political settlement of the conflict in Ukraine? It's very difficult, what concerns me it is that the ceasefire it is not go into place until Sunday, and today is Thursday, any thing could happen between now and then, I think that it's very important we've signed this agreement, hopefully it will head off President Obama's determination to sent lethal military equipment to Ukraine. So, from that perspective it's good, but the problem is the implementation, that's what really concerns me right now. Do Europe and the US still have similar views on the situation? I think if you read the terms of the settlement, the official document is not out, but back to the Minsk agreement basically which was based on President Putin's peace proposal, and I think it has the framework there, peaceful settlement of this view, obviously there are disagreements of interpretation on both sides. I think it really depends on whether President Obama is going to read the riot act to President Poroshenko and tell him that he should implement this agreement in good faith. It also concerns me that in March next month President Obama is sending a 300 special forces to Ukraine to train not just the military, but these neo-Nazi paramilitary formations. That's not a positive sign at all, I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker. So, that's my assessment it really depends on Obama telling Poroshenko to negotiate the details here in good faith. I do believe that President Putin here has negotiated in good faith, I do not believe President Putin has any interest in annexing Donbass or anything like that, and I think if there is to be a settlement, there can be a settlement, but it really depends on President Obama and what he wants because Poroshenko does whatever President Obama tells him to do. It's that simple. I also think it's a positive sign that the leaders of Donbass have signed down to this agreement. I think that's a very positive sign. So, I guess we'll see what happens here next 3 or 4 days, I don't know. What was Angela Merkel convincing Barack Obama of during her visit to the US? Obviously it appears that she and President Hollande had two objectives. One - as you know the Debaltsevo now is surrounded and if a ceasefire is not in place soon, it could fall and create very serious circumstances in all sides leading to escalation. Secondly, it's clear if you read her coming here into the United States, her appearance at the press conference, she did not support any plan by the neoconservatives here in the United States to provide lethal weapons to the government in Ukraine, and as I also pointed out if you have a look at the bill introduced in the Congress recently - they were not only to supply lethal weapons to the military of Ukraine, but the so-called national security forces which means the National Guard, Right Sector and all these Nazi, neo-Nazi paramilitary formations, they are going to arm them which is mind-boggling that they will arm these people. So, I believe Chancellor Merkel came over here to get some time from President Obama to see if she and president Hollande could produce this agreement with President Putin, which they did, so at this point, I don't think there's any excuse for the United States to be arming or threatening to arm even the military or these Nazi formations in Ukraine. So, from that perspective I think she and President Hollande have accomplished their objective. I personally would prefer immediate ceasefire right now upon the agreement itself. Isn't it time to deviate from such terms as "separatists", not to regard them as "terrorists", but as full members of peaceful settlements? This is the whole problem, how can there be a reasonable good faith negotiations when Poroshenko and his gang of Nazis in Kiev are claiming his own citizens are terrorists? It's preposterous and dehumanizing them. But again the leaders of Donetsk and Lugansk were there, they did sign onto this agreement. It does appear that, at least according to the press accounts, I haven't seen the final documents yet, that Poroshenko has agreed to some type of decentralisation in Donbass. Now President Putin has called for federalization, obviously negotiations can occur within that framework of references, what is decentralization versus federalization, I think lawyers can sit down and work that out and deal with that if there's good faith, but of course you can not here Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk calling Russian-speaking Ukrainians 'terrorists' in expect any type of peace settlement here, that is going to have to stop, they will have to recognize that they are regular citizens of Ukraine and also that they speak Russian, their Russian language rights will have to be respected for sure. Why is the West convinced that Russia can be broken down with the sanctions? I regret to say what we are seeing here in the Unites States are the ascendancy of two factions in this country who are against Russia and the Russians. First is Brzezinski, who was Obama's mentor when Obama was a college student in Columbia, and Brzezinski in 2008 ran all the foreign affairs and defence policies of the Obama presidential campaign and has stacked his administration with advisor on Russia at the National Security Council comes from the Brzezinski's outpoll CSIS there in Washington D.C. I graduated from the same Ph.D. programme at Harvard that produced Brzezinski before me. He is a die-hard Russian hater, he hates Russia, he hates the Russian, and he wants to break Russia up into its constituent units, and, unfortunately, he has his people, his proteges in the Democratic Party and in this Administration. Second faction lining against Russia are the neo-conservatives, for e.g. this latest Brookings Institute report calling for arming the Ukrainian military in these Nazi formations which is now reflected in this latest bill just introduced into the Congress yesterday, and the neoconservatives feel exactly the same way against Russia and the Russians. I went to school with large numbers of these neoconservatives at the University of Chicago, Wolfowitz and all the rest of them. Many of them are grandchildren of Jewish people, who fled the pogroms against Jews, and they have been brainwashed against Russia and the Russians. So you have two very powerful factions here in the United States against Russia and the Russians who are driving this policy, and I regret to report there are very few voices opposing this. So in my assessment, the situation this is the dilemma that confronts Russia today, that confronts President Putin and it also certainly confronts me having gone to school with most these people both at Chicago and Harvard and opposing them for a generation, and all peace-loving people in America that somehow here in the United States we are going to have to figure out a way to reign these people in to avoid the direct military confrontation between Russia and the United States that very well could occur if things get out of control there in Ukraine. So it's an extremely dangerous situation for both Russia and the united states. There's no question about it. I haven't seen any thing this dangerous in my lifetime since the Cuba missile crisis that I personally lived through the 1962 and it inspired me to spend ten years in studying the Soviet Union Russia at the University Chicago and Harvard - two of the leading centres for training experts in this area in the United States. So it's extremely dangerous, I could not underestimate how dangerous the situation is. Pravda.Ru Poster Comment: it really depends on Obama telling Poroshenko to negotiate the details here in good faith. But the Israel-controlled Congress is already telling Obama to inch towards war most likely at the direction of Tel Aviv, giving Jews the opportunity to escalate this into a major conflict as they did with America in WWI & II. You'd think by now Americans would catch on to Zionist warmongering tactics.
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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Cough, cough.
Christian Constantine в 04:04 17 февраля Brzezinski and Wolfowitz are cut from the same cloth. Polish and German Jewish criminals. It is these rabid emigres and exploiters of the American people who have caused the death of millions, not to mention thousands of children of the American poor fighting in far off wars for the 'banksters'. They have been killed and maimed to serve these emigre criminals who have fled their ancestral homeland because of crimes. Why else would I flee from my country if I have not broken its laws? The Pole has been a traitor to all true Slavs, a running dog since antiquity, serving the interests of his western papist masters. As far as Jewish pogroms in Russia are concern. Ebineezer Scrooge had the correct reply, "Bah! Humbug!". Russia because of its multi-cultural diversity has through its history been plagued by fifth column collaborators with many enemies which invaded. She crushed them all from the Teutonic papist horde to Napoleon, to Hitler..... Simply take a look at Russian history. The war in the Ukraine is an extension of this struggle against an resident evil...Treason! The Real Ukrainians are Russian peoples. Those western Ukrainians are Ruthenian Galicians the descendants of Slavs under the Germanic boot, for hundreds of years. Russian never learned the succinct and effective practise of dealing with traitors as did the English, disembowelment, drawing and quartering, casting the four quarters to the four corners of the realm and impaling the head of the traitors on steaks in London.
Strange that Poroshenko, who's reputed to be jewish, employs these boys to do his dirty work. The U.S. has fully supported a right-wing government which glorifies fascist leaders and is tied to the recent killings in Odessa. By Joshua Tartakovsky / AlterNet May 12, 2014 Print 1 COMMENT Right Sector security forces in Kiev, Ukraine. Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons May 9 is the day in which Russia celebrates its victory over Nazism for which 27 million Russians paid the price. So this is an opportune time to ask some serious questions about US funding and support for the unelected ‘government’ in Kiev that contains members of the neo-Nazi parties Svoboda and Right Sector in key positions. Andriy Parubiy, who founded, along with Oleh Tyahnybok, the Social-National Party of Ukraine--subsequently renamed Svoboda (Freedom)--is now Kiev’s National Security Chief and in charge of military operations against Ukrainian civilians who oppose the unelected junta in Kiev. These actions are being termed an “anti-terrorism operation” while the terrorism that accompanied the Maidan coup in Kiev, which included throwing Molotov cocktails on police, neo- Nazis patrolling Kiev in armed groups, and serious allegations regarding Maidan activists hiring snipers who fired on crowds, is accepted as legitimate by the West and not questioned. John McCain and Victoria Nuland had no qualms meeting with Tyahnybok, although his party, Svoboda, glorifies fascist leaders such as Stepan Bandera, the infamous Ukrainian Nazi, whose Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists was responsible for massacres of tens of thousands of Poles and Jews. ‘Right Sector’ leader Dmytro Yarosh is the security deputy of the interim government. He claims that it is Ukraine’s destiny to be in eternal war with Russiaand espouses Nazi ideals. Members of his group are now an official part of the National Guard and are sent to fight East Ukrainians who do not feel represented by the Kiev government. Right Sector neo-Nazis also received police training in Poland two months before the Maidan coup. US support for Ukrainian Nazis has been taking place for over 70 years. The Odessa Massacre on May 2 On May 2, 2014, following a match between two football teams, radical football fans along with Right Sector neo-Nazis brought in from outside Odessa joined forces. According to various testimonies and videos, the pro-Kiev protesters set on fire the tent of federalization-supporters of citizens who want to ensure that their rights will be protected in a federal Ukraine. The pro- Federation activists rushed into the historical trade union building hoping to find a refuge and barricaded themselves. The perpetrators ran into the building and beat people. They attempted to break into one of the rooms, but failed. They then left the building only to continue to throw Molotov cocktails (prepared by Ukrainian nationalist girls), shot at survivors who attempted to jump out from the windows, and beat to death those who managed to make their way out. Ambulances did not arrive to treat the survivors for hours and Israeli medical students offered first aid. The Odessa police did not stop shooters from firing at those trapped in the building. Some of the police were wearing the same red bands worn by Right Sector members and were seen talking to them. At the same time, however, Reuters and BBC falsely portrayed fascists who shot at pro-Federation activists inside the Trade Union building as “pro-Russian militants”. Those who managed to survive were held on absurd charges while the perpetrators walked away. . . . www.alternet.org/world/ma...e-result-government-full- ukranian-neo-nazis "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
History is dull, uninteresting, so what type of education. Well, quite often history shows us the seeds of future failures of man. Few are interested or willing to acknowledge, that in the past Mother Russia interfered in the future of this country, for their benefit, not ours. On a current venue, China is now backing separatist movements in Hawaii, among the native Hawaiians. Going to be interesting as to how we wave in the wind on this one.
Name a country our country hasn't interfered with. Charity begins at home. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
Mongolia????? Russia has. Wishing away war is a fruitless effort. Always has been, always will be. Thruout time, there have been people good and bad, that have lusted for power. That will never change. In this particular instance, Ukrainians have a vivid memory of the not too distant past, of Russian behavior, in my time in fact. The Holodomor weighs heavily on those "horrible Ukrainians". Right or wrong, it happened, we live with it.
All of this is of course an excuse for us to act like assholes and stoke up the most venal and irresponsible elements in our client states and do our best to ignite a conflict which is designed to irritate the most paranoid factions in Russia. As you say, "wishing away war is a fruitless effort," but our ancestors all lived in mud huts at one time. Sorry, not good enough for me by a long shot. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
Reality and history are tough taskmasters. One ignores one or both at their own peril. " Sorry, not good enough for me by a long shot." How should we then deal with Hawaii???? We annexed those people, by force, they had no choice, do we shoot them for wanting their "freedom".
We can haggle endlessly about hypotheticals, but one thing's for sure: We are currently engaged in a series of conflicts Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, to mention the most salient examples, that benefit us far less than they are detrimental to our global position, all of which serve however, Israel's policy of maximum disorder and world chaos. Other projects are on the drawing board right now, including but not limited to Venezuela and a re-ignition of the Falklands dispute. I'll never support these wars. Ever. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
We all have and will, past, present and the future. Not one of us has character enough to stand up to this government, not with our lives or our freedom at stake. We dutifully pay our taxes on time, year after year, not one of us is man enough to go to prison. Some of us were taxed with our blood and or our lives. No one came to our aid as we were taken away.....No one.... Watching kids being taken away in chains, to be killed in some useless war is difficult. We watched, we did nothing, said nothing, but we were against war. Not one person, civilian or military, raised one hand, not one word. They protested, refused, now they were going to pay, with their lives. We the moral cowards, watched, said nothing, did nothing.
Well, allow me, I will raise a word at the very least. Porkoshenko, BTW, is bucking a military coup at the moment according to Mike Rivero. If Porky's forced to board a plane for the Bahamas in his pajamas he'll take the dream of another Zionist-inspired war with him. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
No one did. Not a word. The only sound was of the chains being dragged on the concrete by fifty young men that had dared to object. Fifty young men whose only offense was they did not want to die. Chains, leg iron and handcuffs. Ugly sound. Never forget it.
Warn the next generation. It is a crime to remain silent. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
"Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet!!" they were not only to supply lethal weapons to the military of Ukraine, but the so-called national security forces which means the National Guard, Right Sector and all these Nazi, neo-Nazi paramilitary formations, they are going to arm them which is mind-boggling that they will arm these people.
#2. To: Cynicom (#1)
From among comments following article in Pravda:
#3. To: Cynicom, Tatarewicz (#1)
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Massacre in Odessa: The Inevitable Result of a Government Full of Ukranian Neo-Nazis
#4. To: randge, Lod, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#3)
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
Mother Russia interfered in the future of this country
#6. To: randge (#5)
Name a country our country hasn't interfered with.
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
#8. To: randge (#7)
As you say, "wishing away war is a fruitless effort," but our ancestors all lived in mud huts at one time. Sorry, not good enough for me by a long shot.
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
#10. To: randgeJethro Tull, X-15, Lod (#9)
I'll never support these wars. Ever.
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
Not one person, civilian or military, raised one hand, not one word.
#12. To: randge (#11)
Well, allow me, I will raise a word at the very least.
#13. To: Cynicom (#12)
#14. To: Cynicom (#10)
-Alex Kurtagic
#15. To: Cynicom, randge (#10)
There was a time when that was not the case: I keep thinking that Obama will ignite a revolution with his treason, but apparently that will not happen. We the moral cowards, watched, said nothing, did nothing.
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: randge, X-15 (#13)
It is a crime to remain silent. Warn them??? Recently I had two young school teachers in for dinner. Later in conversation, I asked what either could tell me about Lenin or Stalin. Neither had ever heard of the two men. So where does one start? Both from professional families, both vote to send me off to war, while they are exempt. I am to teach them, enlighten them? Someone has already done that and the media is their ongoing education, not one of the lice from the bottom. Warn the next generation.
#17. To: X-15 (#15)
Never happen. On this forum, advocate for revolution and half a dozen "friends" will be on the phone, doing their patriotic duty. I keep thinking that Obama will ignite a revolution with his treason, but apparently that will not happen.
#18. To: Cynicom (#16)
Neither had ever heard of the two men. There's a time I'd have been shocked to hear a story like that, but today I'm more than familiar with the knowledge gaps of upcoming generations. None of this is an excuse for the kind of blunderingly stupid, obtuse, and transparently bellicose foreign/military policy that we practice. Watch black-belt, chess champ (literally) Mr. Putin outmaneuver and body-slam our politicians and policy makers again and again. We're fighting the last war - the Cold War. Putin is fighting the new war which is an economic war and he's making progress on all continents. No one will fight WWIII except for the armchair generals for obvious reasons. I asked what either could tell me about Lenin or Stalin.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#19. To: Cynicom (#6)
Last year Mongolia signed a security relationship with the US. www.defense.gov/pubs/FINA...t-Vision-Statement-V7.pdf USAID has also "invested" in projects with Mongolia and they deployed troops to Iraq. www.whitehouse.gov/the-pr...-mongolia-joint-statement We've provided economic assistance, and "The two sides committed to further develop their countries’ strong economic partnership. The United States confirmed its support for Mongolia’s efforts to integrate its economy into regional and international economic and financial institutions. Mongolia expressed its appreciation for continued U.S. support and economic assistance. Mongolia noted the important role that U.S. companies, with their internationally leading management, technical, safety, environmental, and sustainable mining practices, will play in the development of the country’s coal, other mineral resource, infrastructure, agriculture, energy and tourism industries. The United States welcomed Mongolian International Airlines’ decision to purchase Boeing commercial jetliners and its declared intention to expand its fleet further with U.S. aircraft in the future. The United States and Mongolia expressed their intention to ensure a welcoming investment and business climate for each other’s companies. " I liked the part about Boeing planes. Probably through help of the Ex-Im Bank on that one. Nearly anywhere you go, there we are.
“It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.’ But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.” Murray N. Rothbard
#20. To: randge (#18)
The cold war never ended. We're fighting the last war - the Cold War. Putin is fighting the new war which is an economic war and he's making progress on all continents. No one will fight WWIII except for the armchair generals for obvious reasons.
#21. To: Cynicom (#6)
It wasn't Russian Slavs murdering Ukrainians but Bolshevik Jews like Kaganovich, "Jews of the worst kind," like those running Ukraine now. Ukrainians have a vivid memory of the not too distant past, of Russian behavior, in my time in fact. The Holodomor weighs heavily on those "horrible Ukrainians".
#22. To: Tatarewicz (#21)
It was Russian/Slavs...LED BY JEWS. Read of the Russian "intestine" death game, or the eyeball practice. Stalin was NOT a Jew. It wasn't Russian Slavs murdering Ukrainians but Bolshevik Jews
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
Neither is Putin.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#24. To: randge (#23)
There was a little tongue in cheek there. There is a list of men that history writers go to great lengths to assure people they were NOT jews. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Kruscheve, Roosevelt, Eisenhower on and on, all non-jews. Baptists one and all, at least, concrete proof non jews? I believe that. Neither is Putin.
#25. To: Cynicom (#22)
Stalin originally Joseph David Djugashvili. In Georgian "shvili" means son of.Djuga means Jew. See Stalin was a Jewish Moscow coffee house radical:
#26. To: Tatarewicz (#25)
I know of no group of people that go to such lengths to change their names as do Jews of the world.
#27. To: Cynicom (#26)
Having been pogromed out of so many countries, they realized that being recognized as a Jew had its drawbacks. So Jews dropped Jewish-sounding names in favor of more nationalistic ones in a particular area; Pollock for example when moving into a Polish community, Englander,Svedbrink-Sweden.
#28. To: Tatarewicz (#27)
I think it's also something of a religous thing with them. Examples: Abram's name changed to Abraham, Jacob's to Israel. Even some of the 12 Disciples of Jesus had other names. The Entertainment Industry and Hollywood, especially, soon became big go-to tailors for Judeo name changelings. Having been pogromed out of so many countries, they realized that being recognized as a Jew had its drawbacks.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#29. To: Tatarewicz (#25)
I've been told by a Georgian speaker that "Djuga" does not mean Jew. There's some interesting and non-trivial discussion of this interesting topic in these two articles: Djuga means Jew.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
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