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Title: Judge Nap: 'Rare Ruling Against Obama Could Delay Amnesty Forever'
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URL Source: http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/02/ ... as-immigration-amnesty-forever
Published: Feb 18, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-02-18 01:35:36 by James Deffenbach
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Views: 1312
Comments: 90

Judge Andrew Napolitano said today that a new federal court ruling could actually delay President Obama's immigration amnesty "forever."

On FBN's "Varney & Co.," the judge explained the meaning behind the new ruling that temporarily blocks the implementation of Obama's executive actions on immigration.

The ruling came late Monday after 26 states asked the court to delay the implementation until after the conclusion of a lawsuit challenging the legality of Obama's orders.

U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen granted the preliminary injunction Monday after hearing arguments in Brownsville, Texas, last month. He wrote in a memorandum accompanying his order that the lawsuit should go forward and that without a preliminary injunction the states will "suffer irreparable harm in this case."

"The genie would be impossible to put back into the bottle," he wrote, adding that he agreed with the plaintiffs' argument that legalizing the presence of millions of people is a "virtually irreversible" action.

The first of Obama's orders -- to expand a program that protects young immigrants from deportation if they were brought to the U.S. illegally as children -- was set to start taking effect Wednesday. The other major part of Obama's order, which extends deportation protections to parents of U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have been in the country for some years, was not expected to begin until May 19.

Napolitano called Hanen's ruling "rare," saying one federal judge usually does not decide to stop the president from doing something. He said it's more common for a federal judge to let an appeals court decide.

"You could count on one hand the number of times a single federal judge has done this to a President of the United States since World War II and you would not use all your fingers," he said.

The case now moves to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals that covers New Orleans and Houston.

Napolitano said the amnesty program is on hold "probably forever" unless the appeals court decides to overturn Hanen's injunction.

He said it will probably take longer than two years - Obama's remaining time in office - for the overall case to wind its way through the courts.

"The judge said the feds will probably lose and there is probably irreparable harm to the states, therefore I am going to stop this from happening and I'm going to stop it right now," he explained.

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#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

Napolitano called Hanen's ruling "rare"...

Rarer still is a judge granting States standing to bring suit over a clearly delineated reserved power...even more puzzling is that he based his ruling on an unrelated law, i.e. The Administrative Procedures Act, rather than an issue of either constitutional authority, i.e. issuing an Executive Order, which is what was actually challenged, or the actual law itself, i.e. Title 8 Section 212.5...those facts underscore the activist nature of the decision...

war  posted on  2015-02-18   10:27:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#3)

Rarer still is a judge granting States standing to bring suit over a clearly delineated reserved power..

Lol, you are funny!

So, the president is the one who makes law? Not congress? Is that your clearly delineated power?

Friggen unbelievable.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-18   12:03:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dead Culture Watch (#5)

So, the president is the one who makes law?

The President is the one who executes the law. In this particular case, the law (Title 8 Section 212.5) allows an agent of the executive branch (which is headed by the POTUS) to parole any alien in to the US and having been granted parole, apply for a work permit.

Again, this decision was not based upon any Constitutional issue; it was based upon a wholly contrived violation of The Administrative Procedures Act...an act that grants the POTUS power to implement law in stages...making it applicable to an existing law that has seen similar acts of parole done prior is extremely puzzling...

war  posted on  2015-02-18   12:22:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

When one treats an individual this way, it is NOT defacto making law.

You know, and I know, that is EXACTLY what he is doing.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-18   16:02:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Dead Culture Watch (#7)

When one treats an individual this way, it is NOT defacto making law.

I'm unclear as to what you are stating here...

war  posted on  2015-02-19   8:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8)

What I said, although I admit a but murkily, is that 0Zero can grant pardons legally, of course, on an INDIVIDUAL basis.

When he does so for GROUPS, he is in fact, making law.

Something not exactly in his job description.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-20   4:21:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dead Culture Watch (#9)

When he does so for GROUPS, he is in fact, making law.

I've read the law...it puts no such restriction on DHS regarding parole...and, in fact, DHS lists keeping families, a group, together as a means of obtaining humanitarian parole...

war  posted on  2015-02-20   8:27:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#10) (Edited)

When he does so for GROUPS, he is in fact, making law.

I've read the law...it puts no such restriction on DHS regarding parole...and, in fact, DHS lists keeping families, a group, together as a means of obtaining humanitarian parole...

This Presidential "pardon/reprieve" issue [Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1] has already been discussed thoroughly before. You seem to be confusing that with some kind of imaginary, perpetual immunity for illegal aliens from immediately reverting back to criminal status within a split second of such an Executive overreach to supposedly grant them "absolution" for their prior offenses here. Obama couldn't even sign "re-orders" fast enough to keep up with that glitch in his "Amnesty" schemes, which he seemingly intends to do for illegal migrants what the 14th Amendment did after the "Civil War" by blanketly bestowing U.S. citizenship in-general for every State citizen here uniformly so as to ensure the Constitutional rights of any freed Slaves that didn't have State citizenship yet.

In the first place, the only Constitutionally delegated authority that the Federal government actually has over immigration is to protect the States from invasion [Article IV, Section 4: Guarantee Clause] and to establish, then equitably maintain, a "uniform Rule of Naturalization" [Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: Naturalization], not special rules for illegals -- both of which Obama has been violating and coercively so. The States have the reserved right to determine their immigration policy in accordance with their intake ability.

Edited sentence 3 and next to last sentence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-20   10:53:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#12)

"uniform Rule of Naturalization"

There is a uniform rule of naturalization...

Naturalization is the act of becoming a citizen...

war  posted on  2015-02-20   11:29:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#16)

There is a uniform rule of naturalization...

Naturalization is the act of becoming a citizen...

A uniform rule of Naturalization means no special rules and perks for illegal aliens over others who apply the right way.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-20   11:42:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GreyLmist (#19)

A uniform rule of Naturalization means no special rules and perks for illegal aliens over others who apply the right way.

Naturalization has nothing to do with immigration. It has to do with becoming a citizen.

war  posted on  2015-02-20   11:44:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#20)

Naturalization has nothing to do with immigration. It has to do with becoming a citizen.

Naturalization has to do with who becoming a citizen? Immigrants! But this isn't even really an immigration issue. It's an illegal migrant issue being passed off on Americans as if it's not.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-20   11:56:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GreyLmist (#22)

Naturalization has to do with who becoming a citizen? Immigrants!

Yea so?

Naturalization has a process...immigration has a process...despite the fact that there may be some sense of *congruency* between the two, one is not dependent upon the other...

war  posted on  2015-02-20   12:50:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#26)

Naturalization has to do with who becoming a citizen? Immigrants!

Yea so?

Naturalization has a process...immigration has a process...despite the fact that there may be some sense of *congruency* between the two, one is not dependent upon the other...

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here but I'm going to have to move to skip it until another day.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-02-20   13:20:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: GreyLmist (#31)

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here...

Congress can naturalize someone who is not an immigrant...

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