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Published: Feb 22, 2015
Author: Don Harkins
Post Date: 2015-02-22 05:14:25 by Neo TryingtoWarnYou
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By A. True Ott, PhD Nearly a decade ago, a dear friend and colleague of mine named Don Harkins authored a wonderfully thought-provoking piece entitled “Slavery and the eight veils. Prior to Harkins’ untimely death, we discussed this “Eight-veils theory” for literally hours together – and in the end, Don asked me to write a piece about this for his newspaper, “The Idaho Observer.” He did this, because I had shared much of my research with Don, and we together came to the conclusion that in reality, there were actually NINE veils placed on the human soul (i.e. intelligence), and that spiritual progression and thus a full knowledge of TRUTH would require the piercing of these Nine Veils. I joked with Don that this topic would take an entire edition of The Idaho Observer, and then it would only scratch the surface. That was one of Don’s editorial talents – taking a complex story and compressing it to a more readable format. In memory of Don Harkins, here is the writing we discussed, in as compressed a format as possible. WHY NINE VEILS INSTEAD OF EIGHT (1 x 8) + 1= 9 (12 x 8) + 2 = 98 (123 x 8) + 3 = 987 (1234 x 8) + 4 = 9876 (12345 x 8) + 5 = 98765 (123456 x 8) + 6 = 987654 (1234567 x 8) + 7 = 9876543 (12345678 x 8) + 8 = 98765432 (123456789 x 8) + 9 = 987654321 Amazing, isn’t it? I find it very interesting, furthermore, that all of the great philosophers in history such as Archimedes, Copernicus, Socrates and DaVinci all were mathematicians first and foremost. I submit that everything from biblical prophecy to DNA strands are built and based on quite simple mathematical formulas and patterns – but I am getting ahead of the story, for understanding the role of mathematics is in itself one of the nine hidden veils. Consider also the so-called “mystery schools” of antiquity. In shadowy temples in Sumer and Babylon – the Kabala showed the way to the ultimate “Holy of Holies” – the re-veil-a-tions (revelation, i.e. the parting of the veils) of life, the creation, of God and when embraced in honor and truth, the very Origins of Man. This involved systematically piercing and embracing 9 levels of understanding or “Truth Plateaus” before finally entering “Nirvana” (or the ultimate unity with God) as depicted in modern “tracing boards”. Like a giant Sudoku Puzzle board, the human experience we call life truly revolves around the numbers 1 – 9 in so many remarkable ways. Everything has a place in the system, and everything fits neatly and precisely in the eternal grid of time and space. This then, is but one definition of Truth – hidden, arcane knowledge that fits completely in the mathematical grid called logic. Yeshua (aka Jesus of Nazareth) declared this to His disciples: “Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free.” WHY CAN’T PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH? “Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth — even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples´ inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don´t want to see” what is really going on. Extremely evil men and women who make up the world´s power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears. The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship´s castle. Finally, I understand why. It´s not that those who don´t see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don´t want to see it” — they simply can´t see what is happening to them because of the unpierced veils that block their view. All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports are one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October. Behind the first veil: There are over 7 billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.” Indeed it can be said that less than 1% of the world’s 7 billion humans ever pierce all nine veils, and it would appear that even this small minority is ever-shrinking. In order to keep the “virtual pasture” green, the global elite also successfully bribe many who have pierced multiple veils, in order to misdirect others who may be approaching truth in many areas. I call this simply intellectual prostitution – selling the birthright of Universal Truth for a worthless mess of pottage. The gilded glitz of wealth, fame and social elevation have seduced many a gifted intellectual. With full credit given to Don Harkins, here now are the newly updated “Nine Veils”. The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, become active and develop an opinion. Our opinions will be shaped by the physical world around us; we will have been “conditioned” from our days in public education to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil. The second veil: Ten percent of us will also pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil. The third veil: Ten percent of those who pierce the second veil, will eventually pierce the third veil to conclusively find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the entire world´s economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil. The fourth veil: Ten percent will then pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry, and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil. The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. As in the days of Noah, this technology is even creating synthetic life forms, as man seeks to displace God. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil. The sixth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the sixth veil where we learn the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real indeed and are in reality the actual controlling forces behind the secret societies uncovered in the fourth veil. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil. The seventh veil: Ten Percent will progress to pierce the 7th veil where the incredible world of fractal geometry and the universal law of numbers will be fully understood and embraced. The creative force of the entire universe will be shown to be linked to numerical code formulas and sequences, and all “mysteries” including the very fabric of time, space, parallel universes, and access therein is unlocked. Those whose intellects allow them to pierce the seventh veil often succumb to the lure and promise of massive wealth offered by the ruling elite, and thus over ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the eighth veil. The eighth veil: Piercing the eighth veil reveals God and the pure energy known as LOVE that is the pure life force in all living things – which are one and the same. Deep-seated Humility is needed in order to ever pierce this veil. The ninth veil: Piercing the ninth veil means perfecting the pure energy known as love and thereby becoming truly one with God and His/Her formulations. By perfecting this pure energy, one then fully embraces charity and therein gains full understanding of the universal plan of sacrifice, death, and redemption; life itself then becomes complete and one truly comes full circle and looks at the world through the eyes of an innocent child, yet with the deepest wisdom born of pure LOVE from the eighth veil. Consider this: If this theory is correct, there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have successfully pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as dangerously insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people. Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can’t, the more insane he appears to them. This truth is self-evident. Moreover, institutions such as the venerable “Southern Poverty Law Center” are formed and financed by the ruling elite to effectively label many such awakened individuals “hate-mongers” and “terrorists”. OUR ENEMY, THE STATE Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite few. It is common also, for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce. Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find and embrace the final two veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.” Conclusions The purpose of this essay is threefold: 2. To help people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God A.K.A. ‘The Highest Vibration” SOURCE with thanks Francisco Valero Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/40556352568/permalink/10152736736912569/ The 9 Veils Placed On Every Human Soul
Any dedicated seeker of truth eventually stumbles upon the incredible symmetry and structure of mathematics, which is especially true in fractal geometry involving the integers 1-9. For a most basic example, just take a look at these nine equations:
This question is best answered by Don Harkins’ wise words written in 2001:
Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who send untold millions of first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder — their combined stations in life are simply to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security and are worth dying for.
As Don Harkins has written: “And so now we know that it´s not that our countrymen are so committed to their lives that, “they don´t want to see” the mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply “can´t see” it as surely as I cannot see what´s on the other side of a closed curtain.”
1. To help the handful of people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity;
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#83. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
You know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking we bumped Neoconned Hell Warmer's thread a few too many times. He's going to take it as a compliment.
The shattering comment was not re: the country, you missed the context of that. I would argue that it's coalescing though, I'd suggest that it's only coalescing when it comes to compliance with government mandates. The people themselves are diffracting. There's hardly any unity anymore. You seem to have completely missed the entire context of what I was communicating. This is exactly what I'm talking about and you come across as if you are young, are you young, say 35 or younger? Otherwise you should know better. The fabric of this country is already destroyed. Anyone that does not have an establishment funded job, which includes a good chunk of the "private" sector too, knows this, full well. It is destroyed, it's gone, long gone, yet Islam/muslims had little if anything to do with it. A simple awareness of 20th century history makes this beyond clear. Unfortunately due to the propagandized public school education that most people get these days, true history is not taught. What is taught about 20th century history is missing the most key pieces and otherwise has little resemblance to reality except superficially. It had a whole lot more Christian influence the further back we go. The world in general is not Christian, Jesus made this clear, despite the insistences of many so-called christian leaders. Either way, it is anti-Christ-ian today. It was not always anti-Christian to be sure. Americans have an irrational fear of muslim terrorism in this country. Why? Purely because of a lie, a charade, called 911. Otherwise I just laid it all out, read it again, this is a waste of time having to write this all twice. Bottom line is that no one in this country is threatened by a muslim extremist terrorist. AGAIN, the odds of being beaten, killed, or other by our own LE in this country is hundreds of time, if not thousands, greater than any possibility of being harmed by a muslim terrorist. Any such fears are irrational and into the psychotically driven national paranoia. But we're all about groupthink in this country. i.e., if 100M people believe it then it can't be wrong. It's tragic!
You do realize that was another lie that we've been fed, right? As to muslim men being kicked off of planes, I'm not aware of these e-mails, but simply because they've been kicked off does not mean that they meant harm. There are lots of people on the no-fly list that wouldn't hurt anyone, some for political reasons only. In essence that's meaningless.
But, who except the Father knows? I won't waste my time speculating about the unknowable. Well, they may or may not be. I'd guess that if we escalate into nuclear war, that that could very well be right around the time of the end. I'm more looking towards the spiritual state, which is a barren wasteland these days, as a sign of the end.
CHECKMATE. I guess for one who thinks the MOST important lesson from the Gospel is nothing more than a joke about crumpets, I can see why you would be a gullible tool who thinks that Muslims are the ONLY ones who ever GREATELY traded in slaves. If it weren't for so-called "Christians", there would not have been a flood of African slaves whose descendants have overwhelmed our "safety net". BTW brave one, aren't you hiding behind the "filter"? So do you truly feel that the Golden Rule is a joke, something you can ignore because your pastor doesn't mention it much? To you, being a Christian is all about "believing in Jesus" while you're out there killing those damn "muzzies" for him, right? I try to make my points clearly. Thank you. Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
The physical terrorism that those backward/inbred savages perpetrate upon non- muslims in the West is a more immediate threat than the long-term financial/cultural terrorism done by the Red Sea Pedestrians. Islam is Judaisms thuggish little brother and Mossad is NOT behind ALL of the violence. You know what they say about ppl who keep lists :)
#84. To: Pridie Nones (#46)
I am more concerned about the US government permitting Muslims from known terro cells to freely migrate to America that may do the damage that you address. We have an evil government that is HELL bent in destroying the fabric of America.
The US government is not Christian. It never was.
"Americans, generally speaking and myself included years ago prior to all of the new media, are fearful of the most unlikely things."
Give an example. Another Katrina?
#85. To: Bub, All (#52)
Reminds me of the Kuwaiti girl who testified about the incubator babies thrown onto the hospital floor:
#86. To: Lod (#82)
The "end of Amerika" and the end of the world are likely two separate events.
#87. To: Liberator, Pridie Nones (#78)
(Edited)
Muslims were the GREATEST human slave traders of all mankind's history.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#88. To: Liberator (#77)
Lol...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#89. To: Liberator (#64)
You qualified your opinion concisely. Some people read ONLY what they want. MSNBC agenda-driven propagandists and apologists are special -- they never have to say they're sorry.
#90. To: Katniss (#8)
Also, I'm highly discouraged to be reading all of the blame associated with Islam and muslims here in 4um.
-Alex Kurtagic
#91. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#0)
You got a beauty going here ! Best thread in days !! LOL You did it !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#92. To: X-15 (#90)
Amen ! Muhammadanism is a plantatation for female slaves and slack jaw knuckle dragging 'men' !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#93. To: Katniss (#27)
Yep. Me too. Qualifying and the government that controls the USgov. I'm thousands if not tens of thousands if times more worried about my own "christian government" doing that to me, or trying to send me to some camp for refusing to pay some medical insurance company $20K/year, more than most mortgages, for something that I don't need, don't want, and will rarely if ever benefit from.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#94. To: Katniss, Bub (#85)
You do realize that was another lie that we've been fed, right? Bub definitely realizes that. Reminds me of the Kuwaiti girl who testified about the incubator babies thrown onto the hospital floor:
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#95. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#0) (Edited)
You're really breaking the fourth crystal ball here. But maybe I can summarize the situation even better: communist Jews are eating our guts out, stealing our money, homes, souls and future, and we're all going to end up Etruscans unless this is stopped. If everybody would seriously focus on this fact and point it out to others - - doesn't have to be full-time for every individual -- the evil system would collapse in on itself, without the need of a revolution in the usual sense. It's already well underway if we choose to seize it as such. Just needs more ACTION on everyone's part! SUFFICIENT INFORMATION ALONE in the hands of the people could take this country anywhere it needs to go, and then we could start improving the rest of the world (if we must) by EXAMPLE and INSPIRATION rather than force. Everybody is looking for solutions "somewhere out there" -- something nice and abstract and cut off from obvious immediate perils like this. One of my active compatriots is a 60+-year-old Sunday schooler. He says the only thing that will work is to drive out all Bible versions except the King James. Millions are looking for a restoration of the Constitution to save us, but even the great Ron Paul is dead wrong if he thinks that will work without naming and confronting the very faulty document's main destroyers. I point out the obvious facts to people, e.g. the Extreme Court being 1/3 Jew and every Fed chairman being a Tribesman, and they just look at me without saying anything. I can pose the obvious, glaring, Socratic questions for 15 minutes straight and they just look at me benignly as if I'm just known for these Tourette attacks. It's the Jews, and it's got to be dealt with. Anybody not fully plugged into it is seriously cut off from reality. It would be especially nutty to look the other way from it in this site, one of the very few where the Jew curse is discussed openly, maturely, and presentably. In other countries you go to jail for doing so; in the Un-Tied States where we have mch more freedom on the subject, a third of a billion people are pretending they don't know about it. Gee, I can't wait to see what the response to this post is.... maybe more deafening silence?
#96. To: Rotara (#92) (Edited)
Without these savages there would be no ongoing Mideast crisis. Fixed a spelling error, too. Muslims are way more civilized than yids and their Christian supporters. And I'm not paying any compliments here. Most Muslims are civilized; you can't say the same for Christian Zionists. Jews, well they're programmed to kill anything that gets in their way. Muhammadanism Christian/Jewish Zionism is a plantation for female slaves and slack jaw knuckle dragging 'men' !
#97. To: NeoconsNailed, Deasy, 4 (#95)
A dead on summary, thanks. Only a blind man could
look at the small number of Jews in American power positions, be that in
politics, banking, or The Ministry of Lies, and not come away without scratching
their heads. As Deasy mentions above, Christian Zionists, as their handmaidens,
deserve special mention also. communist Jews are eating our guts out, stealing our money,
homes, souls and future, and we're all going to end up Etruscans unless this is
stopped.
#98. To: X-15 (#90)
I'm not quite sure what your point is. Sounds as if it's that one beheaded person is equally tragic to 1,000 people incinerated via military weapons or WACO style. Correct me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, I see no difference between one WACO victim or one of those guys.
#99. To: NeoconsNailed (#95)
You are 100% correct, imo. If you haven't had the time yet, please watch Christopher Bollyn's Solving 9/11 presentation. His research and conclusion is dead on. Now here is a man who has guts.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#100. To: Jethro Tull, NeoconsNailed, Katniss (#97)
It's their job to work our so-called western values into twisted knots that let us kill 1.5 million Iraqis to save 20,000 Kurds. Need I say more? We were promised enslavement if we didn't fight two world wars. Look who's stepping and fetching now? There's nothing we can do to stop it now. Before 1941 we had a choice. Only a blind man could look at the small number of Jews in American power positions, be that in politics, banking, or The Ministry of Lies, and not come away without scratching their heads.
#101. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#42)
It's evident that strategy worked out well for the kikes. One less defiant nation, will broken. Germany burned to cinders, the only resistance to world Jewry starving, raped, and pleading for mercy. Japan, the only other resistance to world Jewry suffering the loss of 90 cities burned to cinders. Communism sweeping Eurasia unopposed. What a brilliant stroke for World Jewry. Miraculous even. All they had to do was trick Americans into massacring a few dozen million people while the Russians savaged them on the only real battle front they faced. And now they control the world thanks to the gullibility and fecklessness of men who never set foot on a battle field, ordering the deaths of millions from their armchairs on Bakelite phones. The biggest mistake the Axis made was believing the gods were on their side. They weren't ruthless enough because they thought the winds of fate were in their sails. It took a heavy dose of gamma rays for them to lose that notion.
Because of that, Japan was the only country to come out of WWII "a winner".
#102. To: Deasy (#101)
Your thoughts are correct to a point but they need restructuring as to time element. Too tired this morning to go into it, maybe later. For instance, first warning in our government that Japan was considering moving South was in ...1897. It took a heavy dose of gamma rays for them to lose that notion.
#103. To: FormerLurker (#67)
Actually the Golden Rule is found all over the world stating that a person should treat others as THEY wish to be treated, the focus is on the other and not the self. Only in Western culture is the focus on the self and treating others as we want to be treated....this is the narcissistic perspective. You're wrong. The Golden Rule is about treating other creatures as you would have yourself treated by others.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#104. To: Cynicom (#102) (Edited)
No problem with the nips holding on to Asian territories. Better than the sick and dawdling Spanish and Dutch empires. Have you heard of the book Imperial Cruise? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imperial_Cruise First there was an engagement, then came the divorce. The divorce proved fatal, but it wouldn't have been if we hadn't attacked the Japanese on the Chinese front by aiding the British in 1940. What business was it of ours? The Imperial Cruise is a non-fiction book authored by James Bradley, the son of one of the men who raised the American flag on Iwo Jima. In the book, based on extensive research and newly discovered archival materials and photographs, Bradley sheds new light on the history of American political affairs in the Pacific during the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, and a surrounding a secret diplomatic/Congressional mission to Asia conceived by Roosevelt which would affect United States involvement in Asia for generations. The material also covers a wide array of other cultural factors that loosely relate to this, the largest diplomatic delegation ever sent to Asia in U.S. history.[2] The book asserts that Roosevelt's diplomatic mistakes constituted the original encouragement for the Japanese imperialism that ultimately backfired on the United States and led to the war in the Pacific,[3] and acted as a catalyst in the fomentation of many subsequent events in Asia, including the Chinese Communist Revolution, the Korean War, and even the current state of U.S.-Asia affairs today in the 21st century.[4] For instance, first warning in our government that Japan was considering moving South was in ...1897.
#105. To: abraxas (#103) (Edited)
All I would agree with here is that the western world is the only world that thinks people would want to adopt a culture not their own. History has been filled with live and let die. It's natural. Americans do it too, and like others before them, they believe God (or civilization's arc) is on their side. But the silly part is that they think the world wants what they've got. Only in Western culture is the focus on the self and treating others as we want to be treated....this is the narcissistic perspective.
#106. To: Deasy (#105)
They want our freedumb.....join me in the obligatory chant: We're #1!! We're #1!! :) Amen But the silly part is that they think the world wants what they've got.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#107. To: abraxas (#106)
The world is beginning to understand our slavery to the Jews. They will turn against us because Judaism and Israel are both racially-exclusive systems.
#108. To: Deasy (#100) (Edited)
WWII was directly spawned by WWI and its aftermath. We had a choice prior to Woodrow Wilson, all of the most key subversive elements for this nation passed on his watch. Oh, but then he was sorry and regretted it. LOL Crocodile tears for the history books. There's nothing we can do to stop it now. Before 1941 we had a choice.
#109. To: Katniss (#108) (Edited)
I completely agree. It was related to Russophobia, as Schiff financed the Russo-Japanese war to destabilize their growing empire, and the French and British tried to contain the Czar in the Crimea. Of course the blood-sucking Yids weren't fully in charge of the Czar and there were pogroms against them for reasons that are obvious. This goes back to the 1860s at least. It sort of explains why we have anti-Russian sentiment lurking here as if that would protect us from what we have done. For reasons probably unknown to the Russophobes here, the British empire and Anglo-American bankers have long sought to contain Russia. That was what the Russian revolution was all about. Was it a backfire? They don't care. But in 1940 we still had a choice: save Eastern Europe for the Jews, or tease the Japs into attacking us. We chose the latter, and the rest is history. How long must we sing this Holocaust song? WWII was directly spawned by WWI and its aftermath.
#110. To: abraxas (#103)
Only in Western culture is the focus on the self and treating others as we want to be treated....this is the narcissistic perspective. I've always thought that it was basically a matter of causing no harm to others, where the best way to state that is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated yourself. This is what wiki has to say... Actually the Golden Rule is found all over the world stating that a person should treat others as THEY wish to be treated, the focus is on the other and not the self.
The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a maxim, ethical code or morality that essentially states either of the following:
Could you give me an example of where the rule doesn't include oneself?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#111. To: FormerLurker, Rotara, NeoconsNailed, randge, Liberator, Buzzard, Cynicom, Obnoxicated (#110)
Has it occurred to anybody yet that our Presidential, Congressional, and Military "leaders" keep starting unneccessary wars all over the place because they need to drink blood to prevent their eyes from bugging out of their heads?
#112. To: Deasy (#109)
It sort of explains why we have anti-Russian sentiment lurking here - Deasy Behold your beloved Soviet Union! Sovier War Crimes, 1919-1991
#113. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
Sovietized due to Anglo-Jewish interests. Just like America. Or are you better than them, JT?
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
Lies Your History Teacher Sold You History was one of my favorite subjects all through school. I studied US History in New York, Ohio, Michigan, and Kentucky. Looking back 20+ years later, I find the number of times the truth has been conveniently deleted from America's textbooks very odd. DELETED US HISTORY, PART I: America sent 2,000 troops to Russia around 1915 (I can't remember the exact year (I graduated from college 10 years ago...) I believe it was between 1912-1918) to aid the then Russian Czar against a Communist/Bolshevic uprising/revolution. Not only did the Communists win (as everybody knows), they SLAUGHTERED ALL 2,000 AMERICAN TROOPS! Not a single American serviceman returned after being deployed to Russia around 1915! PART II: EVERY American textbook I have read mentions how Jesse Owens embarrassed Hitler in the 1936 Summer Olympics, proving his Master Race 'wrong,' by winning Gold Medals in the first two Olympic (running) events. NOT A SINGLE US TEXTBOOK MENTIONS THE FACT THAT THE GERMANS PLACED 1ST, 2ND, AND 3RD, IN ALMOST EVERY OLYMPIC EVENT AFTER THAT! If you don't believe me, go to Olympia Stadium in Berlin (Which is where they were held.) and read the monument with all the names of winners of medals in the 1936 Summer Olympics, and the countries from which they resided. Additionally, the 1936 Summer Olympics were broadcast on German television 10 years before there was even a single tv in America. PART III: EVERY American textbook mentions the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941, dragging America into World War II. Not a single one of them mentions the fact that the US Navy placed a Naval embargo around the island nation of Japan, which is 100% dependent upon foreign oil imports, forbidding any oil into their country. And then Japan attacks Pearl Harbor right afterwards - GEE, WHAT A SURPRIZE! The next thing you know, America attacks Germany, which never did a thing to America, and a quarter million servicemen and women are DEAD and another half million were wounded. Then, oh what a surprize, America and Britian give Palstine to the Jews! What did that have to do with defeating Germany, Italy, and Japan? Or was that the Synods plan all along???
#115. To: Deasy (#113)
Has America been at War 93% of the Time since 1776?
#116. To: Deasy (#113)
I have no idea. I've never met "them." But back to the Soviet atrocities. After reading that history, I'm sticking with the Evil Empire monicker. Or are you better than them, JT?
#117. To: Jethro Tull (#116)
Your country has been taken over by Jews just like the Russians' country was. So how are you better than them? Besides, our Jews persuaded us to stop Hitler from putting a lid on their tyranny. Shabbos goy-like. Without gullible Americans to back up the Brits and the Soviets, 1919 wouldn't have lasted past 1942 without Lend Lease and a front in Africa. Roosevelt even lied about Katyn Forest to protect his buddies. Imagine a world where the Czar was left in peace to conduct pogroms as he pleased.
#118. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#114)
John Travolta is missing his upper left incisor. Just sayin' 
#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
Something else is missing too.
#120. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#114)
How did the flotilla of Jap carriers and escorts manage to leave port and strike out for Pearl Harbor? The embargo was at the source of the oil, not the destination. Anglo-American and Dutch interests controlled the supply. Not a single one of them mentions the fact that the US Navy placed a Naval embargo around the island nation of Japan, which is 100% dependent upon foreign oil imports, forbidding any oil into their country. And then Japan attacks Pearl Harbor right afterwards - GEE, WHAT A SURPRIZE!
#121. To: GreyLmist (#120)
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#122. To: FormerLurker (#110)
I've always thought that it was basically a matter of causing no harm to others, where the best way to state that is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated yourself. The sage has no interest of his own, but takes the interests of the people as his own. Lauzi/Tauism Nothing which breathes, which exists, which lives, or which has essence or potential of life, should be destroyed or ruled over, or subjugated, or harmed, or denied of its essence or potential. Jainism Blessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself. —Bahá'u'lláh That is a few. I agree with causing no harm. The criticism that arises from treating others how we wish to be treated is that not everybody else is alike or shares the same beliefs. For example, I have thicker skin than many others and I prefer straight talk but others may find offense in that. Treating others in a paradigm of a particular belief structure negates the belief structure of the other. Historically religion has given humans carte blanche to ram a particular set of beliefs down the throats of others for "their own good" to "save them" which led to a great deal of blood shed. At some point, the Western tree must concede that not all others wish to be treated like them or to treat others as they deem fit for treatment based solely on the basis that the other doesn't share their beliefs. Perhaps a bit of treating others as they wish to be treated is in order? Also, in a world where love of self has become confused with love of ego, loving others as the self has run amok and misses the inherent truth of loving the divinity in all others. My favorite...Namaste~I salute the divinity in you. : ) Could you give me an example of where the rule doesn't include oneself?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
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