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Title: John McCain: ‘I’m Ashamed Of My Country, I’m Ashamed Of My President, I’m Ashamed Of Myself’
Source: Yahoo! News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-m ... hamed-president-175342180.html
Published: Feb 22, 2015
Author: The Daily Caller
Post Date: 2015-02-22 17:34:26 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 6957
Comments: 83

Arizona U.S. Sen. John McCain said something on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday about the U.S.’s handling of the ongoing standoff between Russia and Ukraine that surprised host Bob Schieffer.

“I’m ashamed of my country, I’m ashamed of my president and I’m ashamed of myself that I haven’t done more to help these people,” McCain said. “It is really, really heartbreaking.”

McCain was expressing his frustration with how the U.S. and major European powers like France and Germany have failed to stop Russian president Vladimir Putin’s advance on Ukraine.

“I believe that German chancellor and president of France legitimized for the first time in 70 years the dismemberment of a country in Europe. It’s shameful. Vladimir Putin has not paid any price,” McCain said.

McCain supports providing weapons to Ukraine to help fight against the Russians and pro-Russian separatists. The Ukranians “are not asking for American boots on the ground, but merely weapons to defend themselves against the Russian onslaught,” McCain said.

“Vladimir Putin wants Ukraine not to be part of Europe, and he is succeeding in doing so,” McCain continued, adding “this is really a dark chapter in the history of our alliance.”

Schieffer circled back to McCain’s comments about being ashamed because of the U.S.’s failure to intervene, expressing just how surprised he was to hear the Republican say that.

“I’ll say this, senator, I’ve known you for a long, long time, interviewed you many, many times, and I’ve never heard you say I’m ashamed of my country, which you just said,” said Shieffer.

“And I’m ashamed of myself,” McCain responded.


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#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

And to think: Americans funded the revolution and then supported Stalin in the war. Who's worse? The enablers or the perpetrators? We sit back in relative ease (250,000 killed vs. millions) while the Russians do what you described above to the German people, and then we claim the victory.

Maybe Americans think they're culturally superior, although they financed or supplied much of the mayhem in the 20th century. Freedom though, what glorious freedom we have had!

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deasy (#22)

I should have added that those years that the Ukrainians were being slaughtered, Putins Grandfather was working in the Kremlin for Stalin.

Just an added thought.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

And Stalin came to power on a revolution paid for by American and UK bankers. I'll note that Jews run this country too. Why weren't we capable of stopping what we helped start over there when it happened to us?

I see no moral high ground here. Only self-delusion.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Deasy (#24)

I see no moral high ground here. Only self-delusion.

There is only survival.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#25)

There is only survival.

That would have been easy compared to what we've done. In fact, what we've done has locked in our ethnic collapse.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deasy (#24)

Point of interest...

Have you viewed some of the thousands of photos available concerning the Holodomor, read any or all of the writings of Gareth Jones, or Walter Duranty?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

I'm aware of the Holodomor. As far as I'm concerned, Americans and the British allowed their bankers to create the conditions that produced it. Emma Goldman and John Reed were Americans rooting for the Bolsheviks. Americans had an obligation to police their international meddling. Without Schiff financing the Japs against the Russians in the 19th century Russo-Japan war, and without Leon Trotsky receiving $20 million in Schiff's gold to help finance the revolution, and without the pressures by the Anglo-French in the Crimea, the Czar would be in office today.

Is it better to encourage from a distance or take part directly in an atrocity? It would have been better if we had left well enough alone.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deasy (#28)

Work, and you will live.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-23   20:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deasy (#28)

I'm aware of the Holodomor.

Viewed photos, studied, researched, attended lectures, for a background?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

Cyni, my message is simple: if America doesn't get our Jews under control it'll be the same thing again and again. We're the engine that drove the Russian revolution. Our gold. Our political support. The Holodomor wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Your expertise on the Holodomor itself is interesting but it's beside the point: the Soviet "experiment" was created by American bankers and propped up (after the Holodomor) against a superior army by America's financing and materiel shipments.

Russia wouldn't have gone Soviet without us, and it would have ceased being soviet after WWII started if it hadn't been for us. For all I know, Jews were flocking to the Soviet union to help run the revolution during the Holodomor itself.

Take responsibility. WE did it. We're doing it again. WE won't stop until OUR Jews are under control.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   21:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deasy (#31)

Deasy, if one studies the issue, rather than go with the media flow, most often the real picture appears.

I would suggest such.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   21:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

You've said elsewhere that the Russians are racially similar to Jews. Could it be that your hypothesis of racial culpability is mistaken?

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   21:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deasy (#33)

The internet is replete with the views of survivors, they were there, they identify who the people were.

It makes interesting reading,, and enlightening.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   21:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#34)

Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   22:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deasy, Jethro Tull, X-15, All (#35)

Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.

No, not anyone...

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

This past evening, I once again had two school teachers for dinner...and to read what was on this thread.

A few weeks ago, neither could identify or even heard of Lenin and Stalin. As a comparison...

Both never heard of Lenin and Stalin, both knew extensively of Hitler. Both never heard the term Holodomor, both knew minute details of the horrors of Dachau etc etc, their names locations, the horrible gas chambers, the ovens, on and on.

Both knew who the horrible Nazis were, the term Bolshevik was unknown.

They viewed a few of the Holodomor photos and their reply was, "they look like the Holocaust photos".

It is sad to see younger generations have been so brain washed, so programmed, that it is disturbing to them, when they are asked to open their minds.

Perhaps their generation is not the only generation that has not seen nor heard all of history?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-24   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#36)

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

So the suggestion here is that the horrors of Holodomor were racially-inherent to the Russian people. Jewish apparatchiks couldn't have excited Americans or British or Germans to do such.

Do I understand correctly? Can I also assume that the implication is that there is no worse race on the planet than Russians?

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   5:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deasy (#37)

Do I understand correctly?

Perfectly, there is just a lack of ability or perhaps desire to accept what is known to the world.

Why this lack of acceptance? Brainwashing, propaganda and perhaps a good portion of inability to recognize the desire of a lemming.

My desire is not to change peoples minds, rather to have them open their minds and be honest.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-24   8:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#38)

Strategic bombing may have not killed as many people as the Soviet purges and the Holodomor but it's just as horrific. That's Anglo-Saxon depravity, all in the name of God.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   20:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deasy (#37)

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

Why do you continue to let him lie to you with his wizdumb?

Key words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn"

Is he ignorant or bullshitting you IDGAF.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-24   22:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Hmmmmm (#40)

Key words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn"

Early Jewish influence on Bolshevism is clear. But did it decline? According to Wiki, Gennady Коstyrchenko writes in "Stalin's secret policy: Power and Antisemitism", 2003, that:

In the late 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s far fewer Jews were appointed to positions of power in the state apparatus than previously, with a sharp drop in Jewish representation in senior positions evident from around the time of the beginning of the late 1930s rapprochement with Nazi Germany. The percentage of Jews in positions of power dropped to 6% in 1938, and to 5% in 1940.[20]
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#Great_Purge

MacDonald is able to distinguish between Jews and Russians, whom he describes as Europeans here: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Solzhenitsyn-Chap16.html

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   23:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deasy (#41)

I was going to warn you not to take the easy way through Wiki. Early 30's the Cheka in Kiev.... 75%

Don't take my word for it, or Wiki's.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-24   23:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Hmmmmm (#42)

I'm happy to have your input. It's rare that anyone on 4 will stand up to such indubitable wizdumb.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   23:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deasy (#43)

Don't be shocked if this paints a different picture than the one Cyni was trying to sell you.

Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (Kogan), of Jewish descent, was born in Kubany, near Kiev, Ukraine, in 1893. In 1911 he joined the Jewish-founded Communist Party and became involved with the Bolsheviks (Lower East Side New York Jews). Kaganovich took an active part in the 1917 takeover of Christian Russia by Communism and rose rapidly in the Party hierarchy.

From 1925 to 1928, he was first secretary of the party organization in Ukraine and by 1930 was a full member of the Politburo.

Kaganovich was one of a small group of Stalin's top sadists pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929. He became Stalin's butcher of Christian Russians during the late 1920s and early 1930s when the Kremlin (jews) launched its war against the kulaks (small landowners who were Christians) and implemented a ruthless policy of land collectivization. The resulting state-organized forced famine, was a planned genocide and killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians between 1932 and 1933, and inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan.

Josef Stalin (Dzhugashvili) altered census figures to hide the millions of famine deaths when the Ukraine and northern Caucasus region had an extremely poor harvest in 1932, just as Stalin was demanding heavy requisitions of grain to sell abroad to finance his industrialization program which was on top of enforced collective farming of 1929. Stalin is conservatively estimated to have been responsible for the murder and/or starvation of 40,000,000 Russians and Ukrainians during his reign of terror, while the total deaths resulting from the de-kulaklization and famine, by way of Kaganovich, can be conservatively estimated at about 14,500,000.

On any analysis, Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.

The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-25   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Hmmmmm, christine (#44)

My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   1:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Hmmmmm, Cynicom, Deasy (#44)

Ynet courageously admitted to your facts:

www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

"Stalin's Jews: We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

scrapper2  posted on  2015-02-25   3:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deasy (#45)

My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.

Your rabid defense of the Imperial Japanese Army and all of their war crimes is noted. I haven't a clue why anyone with an ounce of historical knowledge would defend these mass murderers, but that's your business. Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   8:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

I have helped load a Fat Man for practice.

Hand crank that thing up into the bomb bay by hand, four men at a time. Sweat pouring down your back. Flight crews had to do it for practice, in case there were no ordnance crews and no hydraulic systems.

It weighed 10,000 lbs.

Very serious business, no place for hand wringers or armchair generals.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   9:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom (#48)

It weighed 10,000 lbs.

I'm very good at giving directions.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2015-02-25   10:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Turtle (#49)

We knew where we were going, it was the return we were in doubt about.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   10:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Cynicom (#21)

Do you have a problem with the manner in which Europeans wiped out the Native American population upon their quest for more land and power?

How about Christopher Columbus and his merry crew(s) who used native Carribean people as slaves, whores, and pretty much wiped them out too?

Is it ok because they weren't Russian?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-02-25   10:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Deasy (#37)

If Cyni had the opportunity, I'm pretty sure he'd murder as many Russians as Stalin did, perhaps more. It's ok to murder Russians because they're "bad" people, in his mind anyways.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-02-25   10:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Hmmmmm (#44)

On any analysis, Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.

Here's another~

Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Генрих Григорьевич Ягода; 7 November 1891–15 March 1938), born Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda (Russian: Енох Гершевич Иегуда) was a Soviet secret police official who served as director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's security and intelligence agency, from 1934 to 1936. Appointed by Joseph Stalin, Yagoda supervised the arrest, show trial, and execution of the Old Bolsheviks Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev, events that manifested the beginnings of the Great Purge. Yagoda also supervised the construction of the White Sea – Baltic Canal using slave labor from the GULAG system, during which many of the laborers died. (Wiki)

Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family. He joined the Bolsheviks in 1907

Yagoda killed more than 10 million....

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-02-25   10:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Deasy, Cynicom (#35)

Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.

No,not anyone. This took the work of one man specifically: Genrikh Yogada. He loved the killing....tallied more than ten million.

In regards to the Holodomor:

Yagoda is held responsible, through his authority as a Soviet official, for the implementation of Stalin's policies that caused for the deaths of an estimated 5 to 7 million Ukrainians, primarily subsistence farmers, who opposed the Soviet collectivization policies, during the Holodomor famine in Ukraine. (Wiki)

Yogada earned disfavor from Stalin due to his ruthlessness and unfavorable public opinion as the people turned on him for the horrid executions. Yet, he killed and worked people to death for the love of it. Eventually, Stalin demoted and killed him. When he was sentenced he begged Stalin for mercy toting his building two canals.....

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-02-25   11:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#54)

Are you saying that Yogoda killed 10 million personally? If he had a 30 year career in death working 12 hour days 365 days a year, I estimate that it would take about one person per minute of every day to kill that many people. He must have had help. He was a task master of death, if your sources are correct. He undoubtedly had assistance from Ukrainians, Russians, Mongols, Jews, and who knows who else.

My point is that under Jewish influence, even people on 4um can advocate senseless killings, and do, have, and will continue to do so. WWII was a Jewish war from start to finish. Everyone else lost.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Deasy, abraxas (#55)

Are you saying that Yogoda killed 10 million personally?

That statement is ridiculous, to the point of being asinine.

It is merely an attack question, totally without merit.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   19:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

Your rabid defense of the Imperial Japanese Army and all of their war crimes is noted.

Why does it matter to you? It was none of your business. Your Judaized values are showing, JT. Next, we'll see you apologizing for the American indian genocide. You'll want to start paying reparations to the black african slave trade's descendants. Oh and you'll want to pay reparations to people who were in the internment camps.

Cry me some crocadile tears. You're an advocate of mass murder, Jew style.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom (#56)

That statement is ridiculous, to the point of being asinine.

It was an attack on your logic, not hers.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Deasy, abraxas, all (#58)

It was an attack on your logic, not hers.

That is total dishonesty.

You posted to abs...

From now on you are on my ignore list and I will suggest to others that you be ignored.

I cannot recall anything of substance you have ever posted, the attack mode being a preference.

Beyond that, your intelligence level is abysmal.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   19:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom (#59)

You posted to abs...

Looks like I struck a nerve.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target.

Jew weapons, indiscriminate targets, in a war that never should have been fought, that we could have backed out of at any point, that we should have prevented. You're a shabbos goyim.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Deasy (#61)

Your hindsight is indeed 20/20.

I believe we’re a nation that has been bathed in sophisticated propaganda x decades, and it’s therefore wrong to hold its victims responsible for actions you find faulty. It's also telling that you've only criticized the actions of Americans and not those of Japan. Why is that?

For reasons I don’t understand some of us have been able to break free of the propaganda, but unfortunately we’re few in number. IMO, those who view things clearly today shouldn’t self-appoint themselves as moral arbiters of what was right or wrong decades ago. To me that demonstrates a high degree of both arrogance and hubris.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   19:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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