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Title: John McCain: ‘I’m Ashamed Of My Country, I’m Ashamed Of My President, I’m Ashamed Of Myself’
Source: Yahoo! News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-m ... hamed-president-175342180.html
Published: Feb 22, 2015
Author: The Daily Caller
Post Date: 2015-02-22 17:34:26 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 6845
Comments: 83

Arizona U.S. Sen. John McCain said something on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday about the U.S.’s handling of the ongoing standoff between Russia and Ukraine that surprised host Bob Schieffer.

“I’m ashamed of my country, I’m ashamed of my president and I’m ashamed of myself that I haven’t done more to help these people,” McCain said. “It is really, really heartbreaking.”

McCain was expressing his frustration with how the U.S. and major European powers like France and Germany have failed to stop Russian president Vladimir Putin’s advance on Ukraine.

“I believe that German chancellor and president of France legitimized for the first time in 70 years the dismemberment of a country in Europe. It’s shameful. Vladimir Putin has not paid any price,” McCain said.

McCain supports providing weapons to Ukraine to help fight against the Russians and pro-Russian separatists. The Ukranians “are not asking for American boots on the ground, but merely weapons to defend themselves against the Russian onslaught,” McCain said.

“Vladimir Putin wants Ukraine not to be part of Europe, and he is succeeding in doing so,” McCain continued, adding “this is really a dark chapter in the history of our alliance.”

Schieffer circled back to McCain’s comments about being ashamed because of the U.S.’s failure to intervene, expressing just how surprised he was to hear the Republican say that.

“I’ll say this, senator, I’ve known you for a long, long time, interviewed you many, many times, and I’ve never heard you say I’m ashamed of my country, which you just said,” said Shieffer.

“And I’m ashamed of myself,” McCain responded.


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#6. To: X-15 (#0)

John McCain: ‘I’m Ashamed Of My Country, I’m Ashamed Of My President, I’m Ashamed Of Myself’

You have plenty to be ashamed of you old cs. People like you and the Kenyan are responsible for the shape the country is in.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2015-02-22   23:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#6)

McStain is every bit the self-absorbed asshole that we think he is:

Make-Believe Maverick

A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty

www.rollingstone.com/poli...believe-maverick-20081016

X-15  posted on  2015-02-23   14:37:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: X-15 (#15)

To understand the viewpoint of the Ukrainians, it is helpful to read and view the past, something which many of them still recall.

In 1933/34 Russians had certain horrible deaths for the Ukrainians that refused to give up their homes and farms.

Millions perished, here are two ways the Russians enjoyed, just two.

Slice open their stomachs, pull out there small intestine, nail it to a pole, and then whip them to make them run around the pole.

Another, gouge out their eyeballs, and turn them loose.

Those are but two pastimes the Russians used.

It is all there for anyone to see, to read, if they care too.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   19:37:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

And to think: Americans funded the revolution and then supported Stalin in the war. Who's worse? The enablers or the perpetrators? We sit back in relative ease (250,000 killed vs. millions) while the Russians do what you described above to the German people, and then we claim the victory.

Maybe Americans think they're culturally superior, although they financed or supplied much of the mayhem in the 20th century. Freedom though, what glorious freedom we have had!

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:06:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deasy (#22)

I should have added that those years that the Ukrainians were being slaughtered, Putins Grandfather was working in the Kremlin for Stalin.

Just an added thought.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

And Stalin came to power on a revolution paid for by American and UK bankers. I'll note that Jews run this country too. Why weren't we capable of stopping what we helped start over there when it happened to us?

I see no moral high ground here. Only self-delusion.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:14:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deasy (#24)

Point of interest...

Have you viewed some of the thousands of photos available concerning the Holodomor, read any or all of the writings of Gareth Jones, or Walter Duranty?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:33:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

I'm aware of the Holodomor. As far as I'm concerned, Americans and the British allowed their bankers to create the conditions that produced it. Emma Goldman and John Reed were Americans rooting for the Bolsheviks. Americans had an obligation to police their international meddling. Without Schiff financing the Japs against the Russians in the 19th century Russo-Japan war, and without Leon Trotsky receiving $20 million in Schiff's gold to help finance the revolution, and without the pressures by the Anglo-French in the Crimea, the Czar would be in office today.

Is it better to encourage from a distance or take part directly in an atrocity? It would have been better if we had left well enough alone.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   20:41:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deasy (#28)

I'm aware of the Holodomor.

Viewed photos, studied, researched, attended lectures, for a background?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

Cyni, my message is simple: if America doesn't get our Jews under control it'll be the same thing again and again. We're the engine that drove the Russian revolution. Our gold. Our political support. The Holodomor wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Your expertise on the Holodomor itself is interesting but it's beside the point: the Soviet "experiment" was created by American bankers and propped up (after the Holodomor) against a superior army by America's financing and materiel shipments.

Russia wouldn't have gone Soviet without us, and it would have ceased being soviet after WWII started if it hadn't been for us. For all I know, Jews were flocking to the Soviet union to help run the revolution during the Holodomor itself.

Take responsibility. WE did it. We're doing it again. WE won't stop until OUR Jews are under control.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   21:10:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deasy (#31)

Deasy, if one studies the issue, rather than go with the media flow, most often the real picture appears.

I would suggest such.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   21:23:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

You've said elsewhere that the Russians are racially similar to Jews. Could it be that your hypothesis of racial culpability is mistaken?

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   21:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deasy (#33)

The internet is replete with the views of survivors, they were there, they identify who the people were.

It makes interesting reading,, and enlightening.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-23   21:57:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#34)

Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-23   22:11:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deasy, Jethro Tull, X-15, All (#35)

Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.

No, not anyone...

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

This past evening, I once again had two school teachers for dinner...and to read what was on this thread.

A few weeks ago, neither could identify or even heard of Lenin and Stalin. As a comparison...

Both never heard of Lenin and Stalin, both knew extensively of Hitler. Both never heard the term Holodomor, both knew minute details of the horrors of Dachau etc etc, their names locations, the horrible gas chambers, the ovens, on and on.

Both knew who the horrible Nazis were, the term Bolshevik was unknown.

They viewed a few of the Holodomor photos and their reply was, "they look like the Holocaust photos".

It is sad to see younger generations have been so brain washed, so programmed, that it is disturbing to them, when they are asked to open their minds.

Perhaps their generation is not the only generation that has not seen nor heard all of history?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-24   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#36)

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

So the suggestion here is that the horrors of Holodomor were racially-inherent to the Russian people. Jewish apparatchiks couldn't have excited Americans or British or Germans to do such.

Do I understand correctly? Can I also assume that the implication is that there is no worse race on the planet than Russians?

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   5:31:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deasy (#37)

The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.

Why do you continue to let him lie to you with his wizdumb?

Key words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn"

Is he ignorant or bullshitting you IDGAF.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-24   22:24:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Hmmmmm (#40)

Key words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn"

Early Jewish influence on Bolshevism is clear. But did it decline? According to Wiki, Gennady Коstyrchenko writes in "Stalin's secret policy: Power and Antisemitism", 2003, that:

In the late 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s far fewer Jews were appointed to positions of power in the state apparatus than previously, with a sharp drop in Jewish representation in senior positions evident from around the time of the beginning of the late 1930s rapprochement with Nazi Germany. The percentage of Jews in positions of power dropped to 6% in 1938, and to 5% in 1940.[20]
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#Great_Purge

MacDonald is able to distinguish between Jews and Russians, whom he describes as Europeans here: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Solzhenitsyn-Chap16.html

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   23:14:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deasy (#41)

I was going to warn you not to take the easy way through Wiki. Early 30's the Cheka in Kiev.... 75%

Don't take my word for it, or Wiki's.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-24   23:27:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Hmmmmm (#42)

I'm happy to have your input. It's rare that anyone on 4 will stand up to such indubitable wizdumb.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-24   23:38:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deasy (#43)

Don't be shocked if this paints a different picture than the one Cyni was trying to sell you.

Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (Kogan), of Jewish descent, was born in Kubany, near Kiev, Ukraine, in 1893. In 1911 he joined the Jewish-founded Communist Party and became involved with the Bolsheviks (Lower East Side New York Jews). Kaganovich took an active part in the 1917 takeover of Christian Russia by Communism and rose rapidly in the Party hierarchy.

From 1925 to 1928, he was first secretary of the party organization in Ukraine and by 1930 was a full member of the Politburo.

Kaganovich was one of a small group of Stalin's top sadists pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929. He became Stalin's butcher of Christian Russians during the late 1920s and early 1930s when the Kremlin (jews) launched its war against the kulaks (small landowners who were Christians) and implemented a ruthless policy of land collectivization. The resulting state-organized forced famine, was a planned genocide and killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians between 1932 and 1933, and inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan.

Josef Stalin (Dzhugashvili) altered census figures to hide the millions of famine deaths when the Ukraine and northern Caucasus region had an extremely poor harvest in 1932, just as Stalin was demanding heavy requisitions of grain to sell abroad to finance his industrialization program which was on top of enforced collective farming of 1929. Stalin is conservatively estimated to have been responsible for the murder and/or starvation of 40,000,000 Russians and Ukrainians during his reign of terror, while the total deaths resulting from the de-kulaklization and famine, by way of Kaganovich, can be conservatively estimated at about 14,500,000.

On any analysis, Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-02-25   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Hmmmmm, christine (#44)

My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   1:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deasy (#45)

My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.

Your rabid defense of the Imperial Japanese Army and all of their war crimes is noted. I haven't a clue why anyone with an ounce of historical knowledge would defend these mass murderers, but that's your business. Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   8:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target.

Jew weapons, indiscriminate targets, in a war that never should have been fought, that we could have backed out of at any point, that we should have prevented. You're a shabbos goyim.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:35:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Deasy (#61)

Your hindsight is indeed 20/20.

I believe we’re a nation that has been bathed in sophisticated propaganda x decades, and it’s therefore wrong to hold its victims responsible for actions you find faulty. It's also telling that you've only criticized the actions of Americans and not those of Japan. Why is that?

For reasons I don’t understand some of us have been able to break free of the propaganda, but unfortunately we’re few in number. IMO, those who view things clearly today shouldn’t self-appoint themselves as moral arbiters of what was right or wrong decades ago. To me that demonstrates a high degree of both arrogance and hubris.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   19:44:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

My country, right or wrong? No thanks.

Have I ever criticized German actions? I think the Axis should have won the war, and we should have stayed out of it. If you agree with that statement then you have no business advocating the firebombing and nuking of innocent civilians. In fact, knowing that the war was a Jew war, you should be especially concerned about innocent civilians in a WAR WE WERE PROSECUTING.

We weren't prosecuting the Japanese war against the Chinese. We weren't prosecuting Germany's intent on obtaining Lebensraum. It was none of our business.

If you think those things are or were our business, you're carrying water for the kikes who used us to gain global hegemony on our backs with our blood.

I don't care what the Axis did to civilians because I'm not a humanist. I care about what our government did to Axis countries because they were fighting for their own freedom, how they saw it. The world that evolved after WWII proved that they were right.

I think you should tell me that you're all for paying reparations to the descendants of slaves before you complain about Nanking or the Holocaust.

Deasy  posted on  2015-02-25   19:53:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Deasy (#65)

If you think those things are or were our business, you're carrying water for the kikes who used us to gain global hegemony on our backs with our blood.

Still steamed over WWII, an event that happened 70 years ago? What shall we do about our evil fathers who were drafted off to war? Reeducate them? Round them up and hold a trial in the Hague?

I think it's time to leave you to ponder such nonsense. Your insults are childish and your sushi is probably spoiling.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   20:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#70)

Damn, first time ever heerd of such.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   20:12:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Cynicom (#72)

This country is about to go down for the 3rd time and here he is getting insane about WWII.

My father was drafted and fought In Europe. After Germany surrendered, he was given leave and told to get ready to invade Japan. The dropping of the atom bombs could very well have saved his life and those of countless other servicemen. If only he knew what Deasy now knows, given the benefit of time and a functioning time machine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   20:21:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Jethro Tull (#74)

Being from that age, I might add this.

If one reviews history from that period, they find that from Oppenheimer on down, the nuclear jews did not want to use the A bomb on Japan.

First, Oppenheimer and the jews that made the A bomb, did so for a reason.

THEY WANTED IT USED ON GERMANY, TO ERADICATE GERMANY AS A COUNTRY.

That was their only goal, defeating Japan was of no concern or interest.

Oppenheimer and the lot of them were Communists with a sick, fierce hatred of Hitler. Burn millions of Germans with the A bomb and there would have never been any recriminations, none.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   20:36:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Cynicom (#78)

Oppenheimer and the lot of them were Communists with a sick, fierce hatred of Hitler. Burn millions of Germans with the A bomb and there would have never been any recriminations, none

I knew he was a Jew but not a communist. It makes sense.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-02-25   20:40:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Jethro Tull (#79)

I knew he was a Jew but not a communist. It makes sense.

Alger Hiss brother in law worked with him on A bomb.

Every time Oppenheimer left NM, he went to NYC to meet Russian agents, he was followed every minute day and night by the FBI.

Oppenheimer was the atypical jew traitor.

The youngest member was John Hall, jew, communist and only 18 years olde.

The entire nest in NM were jew communists.

If you read, you will find when the bomb was sent to Tinian, no jew went, they sent a Goyim to oversee the affair.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-02-25   20:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Cynicom (#81)

Huh! their SOP it seems.

Thanks for all the insight.

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