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Title: John McCain: ‘I’m Ashamed Of My Country, I’m Ashamed Of My President, I’m Ashamed Of Myself’
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-m ... hamed-president-175342180.html
Published: Feb 22, 2015
Author: The Daily Caller
Post Date: 2015-02-22 17:34:26 by X-15
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Comments: 83
Arizona U.S. Sen. John McCain said something on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday about the U.S.’s handling of the ongoing standoff between Russia and Ukraine that surprised host Bob Schieffer. “I’m ashamed of my country, I’m ashamed of my president and I’m ashamed of myself that I haven’t done more to help these people,” McCain said. “It is really, really heartbreaking.” McCain was expressing his frustration with how the U.S. and major European powers like France and Germany have failed to stop Russian president Vladimir Putin’s advance on Ukraine. “I believe that German chancellor and president of France legitimized for the first time in 70 years the dismemberment of a country in Europe. It’s shameful. Vladimir Putin has not paid any price,” McCain said. McCain supports providing weapons to Ukraine to help fight against the Russians and pro-Russian separatists. The Ukranians “are not asking for American boots on the ground, but merely weapons to defend themselves against the Russian onslaught,” McCain said. “Vladimir Putin wants Ukraine not to be part of Europe, and he is succeeding in doing so,” McCain continued, adding “this is really a dark chapter in the history of our alliance.” Schieffer circled back to McCain’s comments about being ashamed because of the U.S.’s failure to intervene, expressing just how surprised he was to hear the Republican say that. “I’ll say this, senator, I’ve known you for a long, long time, interviewed you many, many times, and I’ve never heard you say I’m ashamed of my country, which you just said,” said Shieffer. “And I’m ashamed of myself,” McCain responded. Poster Comment: 
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
Let's hope there isn't a JFK'ing. Obama is out of line with the Zionists. Way out of line.
Juan, you ignorant slut; it's none, nunca, nada, of our business. Butt-out, already. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
With the shellacking that the neo's and globalistas have recently received, they will be out for blood. Zero is not seen as singing out of their hymn book these days, and it concerns me that they will be considering a LARGE EVENT. One big enough to get the Chief Resident back in line with the program. They'll bring this nation to a dead stop if they have to. They will brook at nothing. Scares me to death thinking about it. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
I think the more we talk about it the safer we are, and the safer 0 is. I'm sick of people dying so that Israel can get its way. Who's next? I hope NOBODY.
NEXT! "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
You have plenty to be ashamed of you old cs. People like you and the Kenyan are responsible for the shape the country is in. Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
McCain probably thought there would be air support for the Ukes, even though (obviously now) Obama still has control over the air force even if he can't control the CIA. Looks to me as if the Kenyan averted WWIII. But go ahead, pretend that he's the worst president ever if it makes you feel better. Wilson, FDR or Lincoln are still much worse. Reagan brought us Bush. I could go on, but you're not listening.
If the US of A would stop invading countries based on lies and stop supplying countries with weapons, all of us can be proud of the US of A again. But do to the fact that all elected federal officials are sucking the ass of jew land, nothing is going to change
Oh, you've done plenty there John. Don't forget your asbestos PJs when you leave this life.
Wilson, FDR or Lincoln are still much worse. Reagan brought us Bush. I could go on, but you're not listening. Bush has made everything that Obama is doing possible. Without 911 and DHS there would be absolutely no support for or structure for carrying out what Obama is doing. The biggest bunch of rubes on the planet in utterly failing to be able to realize that are the neocons. Not that the rest catch on, just sayin'. And I agree, we would be nowhere near the state that we're in without Wilson's tenure. The Fed, the 16th amendment, the absolute ignoramus, fool, and gullible moron he was for getting the US into WWI, thus causing WWII, I could go on, you get it, a few others do, but most do not. It's disheartening to me that so many in this forum fail to understand this. Of all places. Obama's just the next candle in already iced cake.
I think the yid cabinet came to Obama and said "don't you want to set the Mideast free?" He said, "Yes, let's have an Arab spring!" He didn't realize the havoc that would cause. Likewise, he didn't realize that Israel just wanted to draw the Rooskies out of Syria by attacking them on their flanks. Dang it, I must be giving him more credit than the average 4um member can muster. He's too black to figure things out on his own. For me, I'm reminded of our only fractionally decent president in recent history, Jimmy Carter. Carter went out as unpopular as an African with Ebola. His budget? The least imbalanced by half of any of the intervening presidents. His legacy? A real peace treaty. Of course the Kike Establishment hated him.
On August 30, 1979, some bad news broke for President Jimmy Carter. It involved Carter's fending off a rabbit on a fishing trip in southwest Georgia back in April. What appeared to be an amusing story in an outdoorsman's life came to symbolize a perception by some of an ineffective Carter presidency.
And were we told about operation Ajax and the CIA's torture chambers in Iran by one single alphabet soup broadcast? Not that I recall. And to think: the Shi'ia Ayatollah was dead right when he said we were the Great Satan aligned with the Little Satan, Israel. But all most remember is those mean murdering Moslems. They never have a rhyme nor reason for their blind hate. Just like the Germans in the 1930s. It's insane to resist World Jewry, plain and simple.
Carter was also an IFer though.
McStain is every bit the self-absorbed asshole that we think he is: Make-Believe Maverick A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
#3. To: Deasy (#1)
Let's hope there isn't a JFK'ing.
#4. To: randge (#3)
#5. To: Deasy (#4)
Who's next? I hope NOBODY.
#6. To: X-15 (#0)
John McCain: ‘I’m Ashamed Of My Country, I’m Ashamed Of My President, I’m Ashamed Of Myself’
#7. To: James Deffenbach, randge, Katniss, Ada, Obnoxicated, christine (#6)
(Edited)
#8. To: X-15 (#0)
#9. To: X-15 (#0)
“I’m ashamed of my country, I’m ashamed of my president and I’m ashamed of myself that I haven’t done more to help these people,” McCain said.
#10. To: Deasy (#7)
McCain probably thought there would be air support for the Ukes, even though (obviously now) Obama still has control over the air force even if he can't control the CIA. Looks to me as if the Kenyan averted WWIII. But go ahead, pretend that he's the worst president ever if it makes you feel better.
#11. To: Katniss (#10)
Obama's just the next candle in already iced cake.
#12. To: Deasy (#11)
"What's up Doc?"
Carter was alone in a small fishing boat when a swamp rabbit, a species of large cottontail, began swimming toward his boat. He turned the frightened and agitated rabbit away with a paddle. Several months later he jokingly mentioned it to press secretary Jody Powell, who repeated it offhandedly to a reporter. To Powell's horror, The Washington Post headlined "President Attacked by Rabbit." Carter was lampooned by turns as crazy, weak, and ineffective. The Iranian Hostage Crisis that began two months later, and haunted the rest of his term, seemed to confirm to his critics what the rabbit story suggested.
One writer later observed that the beginning of the end for the Carter presidency was August 30, 1979, Today in Georgia History.
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#14. To: Deasy (#11)
#15. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: Katniss (#14)
Yes, I'm sure he didn't ask for much from the Israelis. The 1973 war was a major upset to their confidence. I wonder what went on behind the scenes after that? By the 1980s, there was intel that they had obtained the H-bomb. Carter was also an IFer though.
#17. To: X-15 (#15)
Interesting article.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends. Paul Craig Roberts
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat
#18. To: X-15 (#15)
#19. To: X-15 (#0)
WHAT advance? Does he mean to say that he regrets not being able to provoke Russia to invade Ukraine so that he can kick start WWIII? Lying M'fer needs to go to Eastern Ukraine and fight those civilians himself. He SHOULD be ashamed of the flat out lies he's peddled, the assistance he's given to terrorists, and the harm he's done to the world in general. McCain was expressing his frustration with how the U.S. and major European powers like France and Germany have failed to stop Russian president Vladimir Putin’s advance on Ukraine.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#20. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)
Butt-out, already. What I can't understand is how the news media allows him to peddle OUTRAGEOUS lies, such as saying that Russia has been fighting against Ukraine, using the term "Russian onslaught", and implying that Putin has troops ready to invade the rest of Europe. WE are the ones who created the mess in Ukraine, and it is OUR money that was used to finance the overthrow of the legitimate government there, and it is OUR hostile acts that have led us to a new cold war, one that'll turn hot if maniacs such as McCain get their way. The PEOPLE of East Ukraine revolted against the neo-nazi fascist government that OUR government installed in place of their elected government, and for the news media to NOT report that, and to allow insane lies to go unchallenged, indicates that they are just as guilty as those who actually did the dirty deeds. Juan, you ignorant slut; it's none, nunca, nada, of our business.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#21. To: X-15 (#15)
To understand the viewpoint of the Ukrainians, it is helpful to read and view the past, something which many of them still recall. In 1933/34 Russians had certain horrible deaths for the Ukrainians that refused to give up their homes and farms. Millions perished, here are two ways the Russians enjoyed, just two. Slice open their stomachs, pull out there small intestine, nail it to a pole, and then whip them to make them run around the pole. Another, gouge out their eyeballs, and turn them loose. Those are but two pastimes the Russians used. It is all there for anyone to see, to read, if they care too.
#22. To: Cynicom (#21)
And to think: Americans funded the revolution and then supported Stalin in the war. Who's worse? The enablers or the perpetrators? We sit back in relative ease (250,000 killed vs. millions) while the Russians do what you described above to the German people, and then we claim the victory. Maybe Americans think they're culturally superior, although they financed or supplied much of the mayhem in the 20th century. Freedom though, what glorious freedom we have had!
#23. To: Deasy (#22)
I should have added that those years that the Ukrainians were being slaughtered, Putins Grandfather was working in the Kremlin for Stalin. Just an added thought.
#24. To: Cynicom (#23)
And Stalin came to power on a revolution paid for by American and UK bankers. I'll note that Jews run this country too. Why weren't we capable of stopping what we helped start over there when it happened to us? I see no moral high ground here. Only self-delusion.
#25. To: Deasy (#24)
There is only survival. I see no moral high ground here. Only self-delusion.
#26. To: Cynicom (#25)
That would have been easy compared to what we've done. In fact, what we've done has locked in our ethnic collapse. There is only survival.
#27. To: Deasy (#24)
Point of interest... Have you viewed some of the thousands of photos available concerning the Holodomor, read any or all of the writings of Gareth Jones, or Walter Duranty?
#28. To: Cynicom (#27)
I'm aware of the Holodomor. As far as I'm concerned, Americans and the British allowed their bankers to create the conditions that produced it. Emma Goldman and John Reed were Americans rooting for the Bolsheviks. Americans had an obligation to police their international meddling. Without Schiff financing the Japs against the Russians in the 19th century Russo-Japan war, and without Leon Trotsky receiving $20 million in Schiff's gold to help finance the revolution, and without the pressures by the Anglo-French in the Crimea, the Czar would be in office today. Is it better to encourage from a distance or take part directly in an atrocity? It would have been better if we had left well enough alone.
#29. To: Deasy (#28)
Work, and you will live.
#30. To: Deasy (#28)
Viewed photos, studied, researched, attended lectures, for a background? I'm aware of the Holodomor.
#31. To: Cynicom (#30)
Cyni, my message is simple: if America doesn't get our Jews under control it'll be the same thing again and again. We're the engine that drove the Russian revolution. Our gold. Our political support. The Holodomor wouldn't have happened otherwise. Your expertise on the Holodomor itself is interesting but it's beside the point: the Soviet "experiment" was created by American bankers and propped up (after the Holodomor) against a superior army by America's financing and materiel shipments. Russia wouldn't have gone Soviet without us, and it would have ceased being soviet after WWII started if it hadn't been for us. For all I know, Jews were flocking to the Soviet union to help run the revolution during the Holodomor itself. Take responsibility. WE did it. We're doing it again. WE won't stop until OUR Jews are under control.
#32. To: Deasy (#31)
Deasy, if one studies the issue, rather than go with the media flow, most often the real picture appears. I would suggest such.
#33. To: Cynicom (#32)
You've said elsewhere that the Russians are racially similar to Jews. Could it be that your hypothesis of racial culpability is mistaken?
#34. To: Deasy (#33)
The internet is replete with the views of survivors, they were there, they identify who the people were. It makes interesting reading,, and enlightening.
#35. To: Cynicom (#34)
Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.
#36. To: Deasy, Jethro Tull, X-15, All (#35)
No, not anyone... The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians. This past evening, I once again had two school teachers for dinner...and to read what was on this thread. A few weeks ago, neither could identify or even heard of Lenin and Stalin. As a comparison... Both never heard of Lenin and Stalin, both knew extensively of Hitler. Both never heard the term Holodomor, both knew minute details of the horrors of Dachau etc etc, their names locations, the horrible gas chambers, the ovens, on and on. Both knew who the horrible Nazis were, the term Bolshevik was unknown. They viewed a few of the Holodomor photos and their reply was, "they look like the Holocaust photos". It is sad to see younger generations have been so brain washed, so programmed, that it is disturbing to them, when they are asked to open their minds. Perhaps their generation is not the only generation that has not seen nor heard all of history? Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.
#37. To: Cynicom (#36)
So the suggestion here is that the horrors of Holodomor were racially-inherent to the Russian people. Jewish apparatchiks couldn't have excited Americans or British or Germans to do such. Do I understand correctly? Can I also assume that the implication is that there is no worse race on the planet than Russians? The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.
#38. To: Deasy (#37)
Perfectly, there is just a lack of ability or perhaps desire to accept what is known to the world. Why this lack of acceptance? Brainwashing, propaganda and perhaps a good portion of inability to recognize the desire of a lemming. My desire is not to change peoples minds, rather to have them open their minds and be honest. Do I understand correctly?
#39. To: Cynicom (#38)
Strategic bombing may have not killed as many people as the Soviet purges and the Holodomor but it's just as horrific. That's Anglo-Saxon depravity, all in the name of God.
#40. To: Deasy (#37)
Why do you continue to let him lie to you with his wizdumb? Key words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn" Is he ignorant or bullshitting you IDGAF. The sadistic torture, murder and starvation was done by Russians.
The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#41. To: Hmmmmm (#40)
Early Jewish influence on Bolshevism is clear. But did it decline? According to Wiki, Gennady Коstyrchenko writes in "Stalin's secret policy: Power and Antisemitism", 2003, that: MacDonald is able to distinguish between Jews and Russians, whom he describes as Europeans here: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Solzhenitsyn-Chap16.htmlKey words "Kagonovich, Cheka, Solzhenitsyn"
In the late 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s far fewer Jews were appointed to positions of power in the state apparatus than previously, with a sharp drop in Jewish representation in senior positions evident from around the time of the beginning of the late 1930s rapprochement with Nazi Germany. The percentage of Jews in positions of power dropped to 6% in 1938, and to 5% in 1940.[20]
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#Great_Purge
#42. To: Deasy (#41)
I was going to warn you not to take the easy way through Wiki. Early 30's the Cheka in Kiev.... 75% Don't take my word for it, or Wiki's.
The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#43. To: Hmmmmm (#42)
I'm happy to have your input. It's rare that anyone on 4 will stand up to such indubitable wizdumb.
#44. To: Deasy (#43)
Don't be shocked if this paints a different picture than the one Cyni was trying to sell you. Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (Kogan), of Jewish descent, was born in Kubany, near Kiev, Ukraine, in 1893. In 1911 he joined the Jewish-founded Communist Party and became involved with the Bolsheviks (Lower East Side New York Jews). Kaganovich took an active part in the 1917 takeover of Christian Russia by Communism and rose rapidly in the Party hierarchy. From 1925 to 1928, he was first secretary of the party organization in Ukraine and by 1930 was a full member of the Politburo. Kaganovich was one of a small group of Stalin's top sadists pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929. He became Stalin's butcher of Christian Russians during the late 1920s and early 1930s when the Kremlin (jews) launched its war against the kulaks (small landowners who were Christians) and implemented a ruthless policy of land collectivization. The resulting state-organized forced famine, was a planned genocide and killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians between 1932 and 1933, and inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan. Josef Stalin (Dzhugashvili) altered census figures to hide the millions of famine deaths when the Ukraine and northern Caucasus region had an extremely poor harvest in 1932, just as Stalin was demanding heavy requisitions of grain to sell abroad to finance his industrialization program which was on top of enforced collective farming of 1929. Stalin is conservatively estimated to have been responsible for the murder and/or starvation of 40,000,000 Russians and Ukrainians during his reign of terror, while the total deaths resulting from the de-kulaklization and famine, by way of Kaganovich, can be conservatively estimated at about 14,500,000. On any analysis, Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.
The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#45. To: Hmmmmm, christine (#44)
My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.
#46. To: Hmmmmm, Cynicom, Deasy (#44)
Ynet courageously admitted to your facts: www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html "Stalin's Jews: We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
#47. To: Deasy (#45)
Your rabid defense of the Imperial Japanese Army and all of their war crimes is noted. I haven't a clue why anyone with an ounce of historical knowledge would defend these mass murderers, but that's your business. Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target. My working hypothesis is that Jews can make just about anyone turn into mass murderers. Just look at those here who cheer for the atomic bombings of live humans.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
I have helped load a Fat Man for practice. Hand crank that thing up into the bomb bay by hand, four men at a time. Sweat pouring down your back. Flight crews had to do it for practice, in case there were no ordnance crews and no hydraulic systems. It weighed 10,000 lbs. Very serious business, no place for hand wringers or armchair generals.
#49. To: Cynicom (#48)
I'm very good at giving directions. It weighed 10,000 lbs.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#50. To: Turtle (#49)
We knew where we were going, it was the return we were in doubt about.
#51. To: Cynicom (#21)
Do you have a problem with the manner in which Europeans wiped out the Native American population upon their quest for more land and power? How about Christopher Columbus and his merry crew(s) who used native Carribean people as slaves, whores, and pretty much wiped them out too? Is it ok because they weren't Russian?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#52. To: Deasy (#37)
If Cyni had the opportunity, I'm pretty sure he'd murder as many Russians as Stalin did, perhaps more. It's ok to murder Russians because they're "bad" people, in his mind anyways.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#53. To: Hmmmmm (#44)
Here's another~ Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Генрих Григорьевич Ягода; 7 November 1891–15 March 1938), born Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda (Russian: Енох Гершевич Иегуда) was a Soviet secret police official who served as director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's security and intelligence agency, from 1934 to 1936. Appointed by Joseph Stalin, Yagoda supervised the arrest, show trial, and execution of the Old Bolsheviks Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev, events that manifested the beginnings of the Great Purge. Yagoda also supervised the construction of the White Sea – Baltic Canal using slave labor from the GULAG system, during which many of the laborers died. (Wiki) Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family. He joined the Bolsheviks in 1907 Yagoda killed more than 10 million.... On any analysis, Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#54. To: Deasy, Cynicom (#35)
No,not anyone. This took the work of one man specifically: Genrikh Yogada. He loved the killing....tallied more than ten million. In regards to the Holodomor: Yagoda is held responsible, through his authority as a Soviet official, for the implementation of Stalin's policies that caused for the deaths of an estimated 5 to 7 million Ukrainians, primarily subsistence farmers, who opposed the Soviet collectivization policies, during the Holodomor famine in Ukraine. (Wiki) Yogada earned disfavor from Stalin due to his ruthlessness and unfavorable public opinion as the people turned on him for the horrid executions. Yet, he killed and worked people to death for the love of it. Eventually, Stalin demoted and killed him. When he was sentenced he begged Stalin for mercy toting his building two canals..... Anyone could do what was done to the Ukranians, given Bolshevism and its task masters.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#55. To: abraxas (#54)
Are you saying that Yogoda killed 10 million personally? If he had a 30 year career in death working 12 hour days 365 days a year, I estimate that it would take about one person per minute of every day to kill that many people. He must have had help. He was a task master of death, if your sources are correct. He undoubtedly had assistance from Ukrainians, Russians, Mongols, Jews, and who knows who else. My point is that under Jewish influence, even people on 4um can advocate senseless killings, and do, have, and will continue to do so. WWII was a Jewish war from start to finish. Everyone else lost.
#56. To: Deasy, abraxas (#55)
That statement is ridiculous, to the point of being asinine. It is merely an attack question, totally without merit. Are you saying that Yogoda killed 10 million personally?
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
Why does it matter to you? It was none of your business. Your Judaized values are showing, JT. Next, we'll see you apologizing for the American indian genocide. You'll want to start paying reparations to the black african slave trade's descendants. Oh and you'll want to pay reparations to people who were in the internment camps. Cry me some crocadile tears. You're an advocate of mass murder, Jew style. Your rabid defense of the Imperial Japanese Army and all of their war crimes is noted.
#58. To: Cynicom (#56)
It was an attack on your logic, not hers. That statement is ridiculous, to the point of being asinine.
#59. To: Deasy, abraxas, all (#58)
That is total dishonesty. You posted to abs... From now on you are on my ignore list and I will suggest to others that you be ignored. I cannot recall anything of substance you have ever posted, the attack mode being a preference. Beyond that, your intelligence level is abysmal. It was an attack on your logic, not hers.
#60. To: Cynicom (#59)
Looks like I struck a nerve. You posted to abs...
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
Jew weapons, indiscriminate targets, in a war that never should have been fought, that we could have backed out of at any point, that we should have prevented. You're a shabbos goyim. Again, thank god for the Fat Man and the brave men who delivered it on target.
#62. To: Deasy (#61)
Your hindsight is indeed 20/20. I believe we’re a nation that has been bathed in sophisticated propaganda x decades, and it’s therefore wrong to hold its victims responsible for actions you find faulty. It's also telling that you've only criticized the actions of Americans and not those of Japan. Why is that? For reasons I don’t understand some of us have been able to break free of the propaganda, but unfortunately we’re few in number. IMO, those who view things clearly today shouldn’t self-appoint themselves as moral arbiters of what was right or wrong decades ago. To me that demonstrates a high degree of both arrogance and hubris.
#63. To: Cynicom, Deasy (#56) (Edited)
That statement is ridiculous, to the point of being asinine. It is merely an attack question, totally without merit. Yes, he did. 5-7 million in Ukraine alone. I provided you a source. There are countless others. This is the man that ran the Gulags for crying out loud. He had orphans rounded up and shot on sight. Worked millions of others to death. The deaths are on on him. He enjoyed his work to the point of contention with Stalin. I find it odd you do not know of Yogada and his death toll, especially in Ukraine. Are you saying that Yogoda killed 10 million personally?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#64. To: Deasy (#55)
As stated from the posted source, he is responsible for the deaths. The total estimate is 10 million. Sure he had help but ultimately he ran the gulags, ran the slave labor, rounded up those he deemed to be useless to be gunned down.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
My country, right or wrong? No thanks. Have I ever criticized German actions? I think the Axis should have won the war, and we should have stayed out of it. If you agree with that statement then you have no business advocating the firebombing and nuking of innocent civilians. In fact, knowing that the war was a Jew war, you should be especially concerned about innocent civilians in a WAR WE WERE PROSECUTING. We weren't prosecuting the Japanese war against the Chinese. We weren't prosecuting Germany's intent on obtaining Lebensraum. It was none of our business. If you think those things are or were our business, you're carrying water for the kikes who used us to gain global hegemony on our backs with our blood. I don't care what the Axis did to civilians because I'm not a humanist. I care about what our government did to Axis countries because they were fighting for their own freedom, how they saw it. The world that evolved after WWII proved that they were right. I think you should tell me that you're all for paying reparations to the descendants of slaves before you complain about Nanking or the Holocaust.
#66. To: abraxas (#64) (Edited)
With help. In other words, the Ukrainians, Russians and Mongolians who worked for him were under Jewish control and influence. Like Americans and British were when they bombed Dresden. Sure he had help but ultimately he ran the gulags, ran the slave labor, rounded up those he deemed to be useless to be gunned down.
#67. To: Deasy (#66)
Yogada was Jewish. In other words, the Ukrainians, Russians and Mongolians who worked for him were under Jewish control and influence.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#68. To: abraxas, Jethro Tull (#63)
Abs, Jethro... This is what I have thought for some time that we have here... """ Der Jüdische Selbsthass ("Jewish Self-hatred"), which tries to explain the prevalence of Jewish intellectuals inciting antisemitism with their extremely hateful view toward Judaism. Jewish self-hate has been described as a neurotic reaction to the impact of antisemitism by Jews accepting, expressing, and even exaggerating the basic assumptions of the anti-Semite.""" I ran it by a shrink friend, he agrees. The being is not stupid, rather he is sick.
#69. To: abraxas (#67)
Cynicom claims on this thread that the Russians are in a class of their own in terms of depravity BECAUSE of what Yogada persuaded them to do. He barely acknowledges this, and also under Jewish influence, he claims that we should have fought WWII. JT claims we should have nuked and firebombed the enemies of world Jewry.
#70. To: Deasy (#65)
Still steamed over WWII, an event that
happened 70 years ago? What shall we do about our evil fathers who were drafted
off to war? Reeducate them? Round them up and hold a trial in the Hague? I
think it's time to leave you to ponder such nonsense. Your insults are childish
and your sushi is probably spoiling. If you think those things are or were our business, you're
carrying water for the kikes who used us to gain global hegemony on our backs
with our blood.
#71. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#68)
I call baloney on the lot of it. Arabs are Semites, yet say what you will with no fear. A good lot of Jewish people are not even Semites. Semitism is not synonymous with Judaism and never has been, until the connection became a useful tool. They did a good job of high jacking the term for their own uses. Most of the Jewish intellectuals you speak of are not hateful toward Judaism but critical of the state of Israel. The claim of antisemitism is nothing but a trick to shut people up and taint the character of the speaker, provide a protected class for Jewish folks, and divert legitimate criticism of the state of Israel. Jewish self hatred is a make belief diagnosis to keep Jews from being critical of Israel. Neurotic reactions indeed! """ Der Jüdische Selbsthass ("Jewish Self-hatred"), which tries to explain the prevalence of Jewish intellectuals inciting antisemitism with their extremely hateful view toward Judaism. Jewish self-hate has been described as a neurotic reaction to the impact of antisemitism by Jews accepting, expressing, and even exaggerating the basic assumptions of the anti-Semite."""
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
Damn, first time ever heerd of such.
#73. To: abraxas (#71)
Once or twice a year some vicious "vandal" paints swastikas on s Synagogue somewhere. Usually a jew when caught. The crop of jews in Israel since WWII are not Semites either.
#74. To: Cynicom (#72)
This country is about to go down for the 3rd time and here he is getting insane
about WWII. My father was drafted and fought In Europe. After Germany
surrendered, he was given leave and told to get ready to invade Japan. The
dropping of the atom bombs could very well have saved his life and those of
countless other servicemen. If only he knew what Deasy now knows, given the
benefit of time and a functioning time machine.
#75. To: Deasy, abraxas, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#61)
I surely am not here to be a monitor of what is posted, to take sides on one view or another, or to simply pick a fight with those of different opinions, but I do look for well thought out posts that bring fact, figures and interesting observations into the mix. Anyone visiting here for similar reasons will soon identify the few that continue to contribute to each of those points. Therefore, I am at a loss to understand why Deasy is attempting to add to, or distract from, others' remarks when he/she/it is so blatently inept at providing anything other than drivel. Thanks to you, abraxas, Jethro and Cynicom, for remaining rational and unfrazzled in responding to the content of the original article and not some nonsense thrown up to confuse the dialog. Your contributions are appreciated by more than me, I am sure. All postings by Deasy on this thread ...
#76. To: Cynicom (#73)
About a week ago, this guy posted this one and half minute video about 10 hours walking as a Jew in France. He gathered a whopping minute of somewhat derogatory remarks while walking through the Muslim strongholds for 10 HOURS in his yamika. People were fawning all over how "terrible" he was treated. He only got ONE MINUTE of footage for his effort. If I went for a walk in a hood here, I would get more footage. It's ridiculous that people even respond to these idiotic stunts. If anything, it showed there is very little dislike of Jews in France. The other nine hours and 58.5 minutes must have only showed courtesy and kindness which did not make the cut. Once or twice a year some vicious "vandal" paints swastikas on s Synagogue somewhere. Usually a jew when caught.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#77. To: Phant2000 (#75)
Thank you Phant.
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
Being from that age, I might add this. If one reviews history from that period, they find that from Oppenheimer on down, the nuclear jews did not want to use the A bomb on Japan. First, Oppenheimer and the jews that made the A bomb, did so for a reason. THEY WANTED IT USED ON GERMANY, TO ERADICATE GERMANY AS A COUNTRY. That was their only goal, defeating Japan was of no concern or interest. Oppenheimer and the lot of them were Communists with a sick, fierce hatred of Hitler. Burn millions of Germans with the A bomb and there would have never been any recriminations, none.
#79. To: Cynicom (#78)
I knew he was a Jew but not a communist. It makes sense. Oppenheimer and the lot of them were Communists with a sick, fierce hatred of Hitler. Burn millions of Germans with the A bomb and there would have never been any recriminations, none
#80. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
No thanks needed, Jethro. You, abraxas and Cynicom earned it. Thank you Phant.
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#79)
Alger Hiss brother in law worked with him on A bomb. Every time Oppenheimer left NM, he went to NYC to meet Russian agents, he was followed every minute day and night by the FBI. Oppenheimer was the atypical jew traitor. The youngest member was John Hall, jew, communist and only 18 years olde. The entire nest in NM were jew communists. If you read, you will find when the bomb was sent to Tinian, no jew went, they sent a Goyim to oversee the affair. I knew he was a Jew but not a communist. It makes sense.
#82. To: Cynicom (#81)
Huh! their SOP it seems. Thanks for all the insight.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#83. To: Deasy (#60)
No, it looks like you struck out! Somehow managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and don't even know it. Pitiful. Looks like I struck a nerve.
The 2 best times to keep your mouth shut are when you’re swimming & when you’re angry.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
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