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Title: Who Killed Jesus Christ?
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/who-killed-jesus-christ/
Published: Mar 11, 2015
Author: Becky Akers
Post Date: 2015-03-11 07:53:55 by Ada
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Views: 782
Comments: 40

It’s a fitting question during this season of Lent, and its answer damns the Satanic State:

…the Gospels emphasize that only government had the requisite force and legal authority to…murder [our Lord]. The religious establishment, much as they hate Christ and crave His death, is impotent: it takes the State to torture and impale an innocent Man.

And as it does so, its utterly demonic, hellishly brutal nature is highlighted for anyone with eyes to see. Pilate admits that Jesus is entirely innocent—yet he condemns Him to flogging. The kangaroo trial, the ridicule and degradation, the unconscionable cruelty of forcing the condemned to carry his own cross: these reveal the State in its true form, stripped of the fancy rhetoric, the flag- waving and appeals to “patriotism,” that usually cloak its horror. …

Christians ought to despise political government solely for crucifying our Lord. My gracious, if the State falsely accused our child, our parent, or our spouse and then electrocuted him (a quick and merciful death, compared to crucifixion), we would loathe the politicians and bureaucrats responsible, would we not? Would we ever trust government again, let alone pledge it our allegiance? Yet we prattle about God’s “ordaining” government and our “Christian” duty to “honor” the State when it fiendishly tortured our Savior to death. Where is our loyalty? Where is our decency? Where is the love, let alone worship, we owe our God? What unspeakable ingrates most Christians are as they cede the adoration and obedience due Christ to the very entity that crucified Him.

That’s an outtake from my latest discussion with Lela Markham about the Biblical basis for anarch0-capitalism. If you missed our earlier chats, you can read them here and here. They should help you fight the nigh-universal heresy among our Christian siblings that honoring wicked government somehow honors our true King.

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#1. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

www.holybiblesketchpad.com/ChristWarrant.pdf

Rome ruled Jerusalem that's true. However, the Pharisees were allotted much power and authority. If not for the Pharisees Christ would never have been crucified.

Today's rabbis claim to be directly descended from the Pharisees in an unbroken lineage.

"We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain".

Doug Scheidt 2015

noone222  posted on  2015-03-11   10:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

. If not for the Pharisees Christ would never have been crucified.

The Sanhedrin (or any other Jewish court) did not have the power to execute.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-11   11:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada, 4 (#0)

God, made flesh, came here to live without sin, die, and triumph over the grave so that everyone can have eternal life if they call on His name.

Wasting time with the "who killed Christ?" is just foolish, imo.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-11   12:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#1)

If not for the Pharisees Christ would never have been crucified.

Christ was a fully awakened being who went willingly to the cross. The sad truth is that there would be no Christianity without the crucifixion.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-03-11   12:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0)

If that isn't just like lewrockwell.com, another big supposedly liberty- loving site where Jewish power doesn't exist as a subject, to throw guilt off the rabid rabbis who killed Christ! Don't try to tell me they didn't do it or it doesn't matter. Passages like Mark 3:1-6 erase all doubt.

The activity and identity of Jews is in fact central to Bible everything and directly mirrored in everything going on today. Jesus, his family and followers weren't Jewish as commonly believed -- his sworn enemies the pharisees and rabbis were. They are in fact repeatedly, pejoratively identified as "the Jews" throughout the New Testament. Don't believe it? Search the phrase.

http://davidduke.com/a-little-fun-with-the-bible/

Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Where godless semi- conservatism is going on, there is Libertarianism.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-11   12:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

Jewish power existed--members of the Sanhedrin had powerful connections (more powerful than Pilate apparently who was on shaky ground) in Rome. However, they could not execute anyone. Only the Romans could. The Sanhedrin threatened to complain to Rome unless the troublemaker was dealt with.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-11   12:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#2) (Edited)

The Sanhedrin (or any other Jewish court) did not have the power to execute.

yup.

"...the authority of the Sanhedrin had already been passed to the Romans.

Panic Reaction

When the members of the Sanhedrin found themselves deprived of their right over life and death, they covered their heads with ashes and their bodies with sackcloth, and bemoaned, "Woe unto us for the scepter has departed from Judah and the Messiah has not come!"10 They actually thought that the Torah, the Word of God, had failed! They should have known better.

The scepter had, indeed, been removed from Judah, but Shiloh had come. While the Jews wept in the streets of Jerusalem, a young son of a carpenter was growing up in Nazareth. He would present Himself as the Meshiach Nagid, Messiah the King, on the very day which had been predicted by the Angel Gabriel to Daniel five centuries earlier.11

(In fact, every detail of His life had been foretold centuries earlier.) ..."

A Christmas Promise: The Scepter of Judah

http://www.khouse.org/articles/1999/187/

The above is proof Genesis 49:10 was fulfilled:

Gen. 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

http://biblehub.com/genesis/49-10.htm

It is the goal of the Judeo-Jesuit-Masonic-British-Israel group to fit that Cinderella slipper on their hooves. It's what is behind all their damn wars.

www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm

examples:

http://www.scepterofjudah.net/SJtract1-274.html

www.scepterofjudah.com/CG...2023/Hyperlinks_p001.html

www.scepterofjudah.net/SJCommentary/SJC1-91.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-11   12:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#1)

Rome ruled Jerusalem that's true. However, the Pharisees were allotted much power and authority. If not for the Pharisees Christ would never have been crucified.

who killed Jesus?

John 19:10So Pilate said to Him, "You do not speak to me? Do You not know that I have authority to release You, and I have authority to crucify You?" 11Jesus answered, "You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin." 12As a result of this Pilate made efforts to release Him, but the Jews cried out saying, "If you release this Man, you are no friend of Caesar; everyone who makes himself out to be a king opposes Caesar."… http://biblehub.com/john/19-11.htm

from your link: "...I. He is a seducer.
II. He is seditious.
III. He is the enemy of the law.
IV. He calls himself, falsely, the Son of God.
V. He calls himself the King of Israel.
VI. He entered into the Temple, followed by a multitude bearing palm branches in their hands.

“Order the centurion, Quintius Cornelius, to lead him to the place of execution. “Forbid any person whomsoever, poor or rich, to oppose the death of Jesus.

“The witnesses that signed the death of Jesus are:

I. Daniel, Rabbi, Pharisee.
II. Joannes, Rabbi....."

Today's rabbis claim to be directly descended from the Pharisees in an unbroken lineage. http://www.holybiblesketchpad.com/ChristWarrant.pdf

so is Judaism, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia (1948?) descended without a break, from the religion of the Pharisees and their traditions, which were later written down in their holiest book, the Talmud. Those charges look like they were WRITTEN by the Pharisees, and nothing has changed. Here is how the noahide/Pharisee site describes Jesus today:

http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm

"Yeshu", btw, is a Jewish acronym meaning "may his name be forgotten/blotted out". www.gnosticliberationfron...ristians__a_mossad_op.htm

Five dancing Israelis "testified" that goal was carried forward in America by their comrades on September 11, 2001....September 11 being the birth date of Christ [ http://www.cortright.org/revsign.htm ]. Zionized churches now glorify September 11 as "Patriot Day" and honor Americans sent to slaughter innocent Arabs.

thank you for the link! never saw that before.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-11   13:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed, Lod (#5)

throw guilt off the rabid rabbis who killed Christ! Don't try to tell me they didn't do it or it doesn't matter. Passages like Mark 3:1-6 erase all doubt.

ah...good one:

Mark 3:1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand. 2And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him. 3And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth. 4And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace. 5And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other. 6And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him. http://biblehub.com/kjv/mark/3.htm

The activity and identity of Jews is in fact central to Bible everything and directly mirrored in everything going on today.

Isn't that the sad truth.

the Jews, 15who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, 16hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved;.....[ http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm ], http://biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/2-15.htm

Lod, with all due respect...

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. http://biblehub.com/hebrews/4-12.htm

Jeremiah 23:29

"Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

Revelation 19:15

Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/1-16.htm

Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. http://biblehub.com/revelation/17-14.htm

Ezekiel 3:18

When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.

Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. biblehub.com/ezekiel/33-6.htm

Love ya, Lod.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-11   13:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Ada, noone222, Lod, NeoconsNailed (#9)

The Passion of the CHRIST (2004)

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-03-11   14:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Ada (#7) (Edited)

Nice efforts, folks, but you're trying to reason away things that are in the plain text of Scripture. [Later: oops, it appears AllTheKings and I may be on the same side here. If so, sorry if I misread him -- can't change the "To" line now. Wish I had time to read every word of everything.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_crimes_in_the_Torah

I seriously don't think “THE JEWS” ever changed their law code just because of what some Romans decreed.

When Jesus had first revealed himself as the son of God, “THE JEWS” got up from their sin-agog pews to stone him to death and clearly would have done it but he evaded them somehow.

Even if you want to pin it on the Romans as the ones who actually carried it out, it never would have happened if "THE JEWS" hadn't contrived it using their usual sophistry tricks against an unwilling Pilate. The Jews shouted that they wanted his bloodguilt on themselves and their children, and today you've got "comedian" Sarah Silverman bragging that she's proud the Jews “killed Christ” and she'd "do it again, I'd f****** do it again" to the riotous amusement of her Jew audience.

For their next demonstration of innocence after the crucifixion, "THE JEWS" spent the book of Acts stoning and crucifying Christians. Today they're stamping out Christianity in the Holy Land and killing the true Christian martyrs in Palestine -- as we speak, pushing their houses over with them inside, giving no warning. All according to their real scriptures, the Talmud..... the same now as 2,000 years ago.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-11   14:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: NeoconsNailed, 4 (#11)

Galatians 3:28

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

My favorite verse when "the jew thing" comes around.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-11   14:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

The Jew thing, my dear Lod, is eating your guts out even while you're sleeping. Among many other things, it's filling your country with hostile third-worlders bearing virulent diseases, race war and rampant sex abuse.

http://newobserveronline.com/jews-demand-open-borders-for-usa-but-use-dna-to- keep-israel-racially-pure/

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-11   14:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

I seriously don't think “THE JEWS” ever changed their law code just because of what some Romans decreed.

Of course, Jewish law did not change but they did not directly control executions. The Sanhedrin charge against Jesus was blasphemy, something that would have carried no weight with the Romans. So they had to sell it to the Romans by claiming that Jesus was an insurrectionist, i.e., rebellion against Rome.

Jesus was extremely popular with ordinary Jews but not with the Jewish rulers.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-11   15:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

not sure what you mean by "reason it away". Everything you said is true and it all went through my mind as I was writing [except for Silverstein - she didn't come to mind THIS time until you reminded me.] Of course they wanted to kill Jesus, and they tried, but it was a lawless act, and it was not ordained that He would die in any way but on the cross, WHICH THEY DID NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO USE.

47And He was teaching daily in the temple; but the chief priests and the scribes and the leading men among the people were trying to destroy Him, 48and they could not find anything that they might do, for all the people were hanging on to every word He said. http://biblehub.com/luke/19-47.htm

Luke 22:1Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching. 2The chief priests and the scribes were seeking how they might put Him to death; for they were afraid of the people. http://biblehub.com/luke/22-2.htm

"...for they feared the people: which were now in great multitudes with him, who came along with him, from Galilee, and other parts; and had hosanna'd him into the city, and still abode with him, and their numbers were increasing; and the sanhedrim were aware, that at the passover there would be still a greater company of people from all parts of the land; and they might conclude, that he would have a large number of his friends come out of Galilee, where he had been for the most part teaching, and working miracles; and they were afraid, should they lay hold on him publicly, the people would rise and stone them; at least would rescue him out of their hands, and disappoint them of their designs...."

http://biblehub.com/luke/22-2.htm

Mark 14:1 Now the Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread were only two days away, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were scheming to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him.

Jesus Before the Council

Luke 22:66And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying, 67Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe: 68And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go. 69Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. 70Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am. 71And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth. http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/22.htm

Then they delivered Him up to Pilate to be killed [because they did not have the authority (or ability as hard as they might try!) to do it themselves]: http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/23.htm

also

John 7:30 At this they tried to seize him, but no one laid a hand on him, because his hour had not yet come.

When Jesus had first revealed himself as the son of God, “THE JEWS” got up from their sin-agog pews to stone him to death and clearly would have done it but he evaded them somehow.

One of my favorite passages...

John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."

John 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. biblehub.com/john/8-59.htm

In my opinion he evaded them by becoming INVISIBLE, thus revealing Himself in 3 Persons:

Father: Before Abraham was, I AM: http://biblehub.com/exodus/3-14.htm

Son: Jesus standing in the flesh before them.

Holy Ghost: Jesus "hid" himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

For their next demonstration of innocence after the crucifixion, "THE JEWS" spent the book of Acts stoning and crucifying Christians. Today they're stamping out Christianity in the Holy Land and killing the true Christian martyrs in Palestine -- as we speak, pushing their houses over with them inside, giving no warning. All according to their real scriptures, the Talmud..... the same now as 2,000 years ago.

yes. I believe America is the battleground for the Final Battle of Genesis 3:15. Some believe it is purely a spiritual battle [I have my doubts]. But it is definitely a battle between the Sons of God [Christians, whether Jew or Gentile or whatever] and the children of the devil, which is what Jesus called the unrepentant Jews [ http://biblehub.com/john/8-44.htm ], and it is a battle between the Word of God and the word (and works) of the Devil:

Judaism vs. Christianity: The War The Lamb Wins

The Talmud: The Reason Why This “War” Must Come

http://www.fixedearth.com/talmud.html

My point about Gen. 49:10, is that the Jews etc. are manufacturing events to make it appears it all points to them for fulfillment. Take away Gen. 49:10 and it gives them less of a leg to stand on to carry out their wicked deeds.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-11   16:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

There are no more jews! there are only zionists.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-11   16:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

...and it is a battle between the Word of God and the word (and works) of the Devil:...

Why is that truth so difficult for many to grasp?

The battle, as always, is between good and evil.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-03-11   16:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ada (#14) (Edited)

It still doesn't help you. They hated his guts and wanted him killed, and they caused it to happen where it otherwise wouldn't have. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. If I talk somebody into killing you or hire them to do it, the law doesn't say oh, well, he didn't actually do it himself. Your relatives wouldn't! There was just a big legal case on this, I forget what.

The Jews are still proudly proclaiming their guilt and are indeed still killing Jesus. You folks and every proper Baptist pew-sitter seem to be the only people left saying otherwise. Christianity is dying in America -- Chuck Baldwin recently spoke in my area and said so. Somebody's causing it to happen, and who but THE JEWS is doing more to make it? SPLC got the 10 Commandments monument thrown out of Judge Roy Moore's courthouse, Jew lawyers are overwhelmingly the ones suing over manger scenes, prayer in schools etc. God knows they swarmed down to Dixie in the Civil Riots era to help destroy such Biblical basics as the rule of law, freedom of association and contract.

Their "diversity" program is majorly aimed at drowning Christianity in a flood of Islam, Buddhism, Bahai, atheism, Santeria ad inf., as they disappear into the background while still manipulating the hell out of everybody else. It's working like clockwork. Somali Bantus in Maine.... the Jews' dream, our nightmare, and coming to a neighborhood near you FAST if it already isn't happening.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-12   1:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Ada, all concerned (#8)

I possess a book entitled "The Standard Dictionary of Facts" published in 1920 by Frontier Press Company that contains exactly what is posted below. (Emphasis added and underlined by myself re King of Israel (not King of Jews).

Death Warrant of Jesus Christ

This is from a copper plate, written in Hebrew, as a copy of the original death warrant. It was circulated to the twelve tribes. The plate was discovered about fifty three miles northeast of Rome.

SENTENCE RENDERED BY PONTIUS PILATE, That Jesus of Nazareth shall suffer death on the cross.

SENTENCE In the year seventeen of the empire of Tiberius Caesar, and the 24 th of March, the city of the Holy Jerusalem: Annas and Caiaphas being priests, sacrificators of the people of God, I, Pontius Pilate, governor of the praetory, condemn Jesus of Nazareth to die on the cross between two thieves –the great and notorious evidence of the people saying –

I. He is a seducer.

II. He is seditious.

III. He is the enemy of the law.

IV. He calls himself, falsely, the Son of God.

V. He calls himself the King of Israel.

VI. He entered into the Temple, followed by a multitude bearing palm branches in their hands.

“Order the centurion, Quintius Cornelius, to lead him to the place of execution.

“Forbid any person whomsoever, poor or rich, to oppose the death of Jesus. “The witnesses that signed the death of Jesus are:

I. Daniel, Rabbi, Pharisee.

II. Joannes, Rabbi.

III. Raphael Rorobable.

IV. Capet, a citizen. “Jesus shall go out of the city by the gate ‘Struenu

"We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain".

Doug Scheidt 2015

noone222  posted on  2015-03-12   5:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222 (#19) (Edited)

(Emphasis added and underlined by myself re King of Israel (not King of Jews).

Thank you for the information.

the jews said, crucify Him, WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR.

so where did God plant His King?

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

http://biblehub.com/psalms/2-6.htm

If Old Jerusalem had become the Whore of Babylon [ http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/whore.html ], where was Zion?

i have posted it all before...the prophecies that i and some before me, believe refer to the new jerusalem/zion/land-of-israel-where-true-israelites(christians)-reside.....america: http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/

one example. ezekiel 34:11-13. [ biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/34.htm ] Jesus said i am not come but for the lost sheep of the house of israel. who are they? where did He take them? john 10 for who the lost sheep of the house of of israel are and who they are not. galatians 3 and 4, roman 4 and 9 also declare who the house of israel is. Jesus said kingdom of heaven would have sheep and goats. wheat and tares. mustard seed and leaven[of the pharisees-see strong's concordance]. [mat. 13/luke 13].

wish i had more time, but i have said it all before.

http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/2.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-12   7:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

wish i had more time, but i have said it all before.

Time an element left out of the Table of Elements despite its significant impact upon humanity. I too, wish I had more of it !!!

"We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain".

Doug Scheidt 2015

noone222  posted on  2015-03-12   7:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

They hated his guts and wanted him killed,

The Jewish rulers seemed to be guided more by fear than by hate. Unless you believe that Palm Sunday never happened, the ordinary people loved Him.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-12   8:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

Today's rabbis claim to be directly descended from the Pharisees in an unbroken lineage.

True. KIM, though, that the pharsees were just tring to lighten the burden of the law as set down by the Saducees, i.e., to help the average Jew to comply. At that time only the rich had the leisure to deal with all the rituals.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-12   8:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ada (#22) (Edited)

You're working awfully hard at this, and again confusing "THE JEWS," a malevolent sub-group of the population clearly and consistently identified by that phrase in the New Testament, with the population at large.

What I wrote you before takes care of the whole subject. Of course the Romans would whip up whatever justification needed to make it look very official and their idea the whole time, hrumph hrumph. Don't think Jew money power existed in Rome? Some things never change:

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-references-gentile-whatotherssay.htm

If the Jews didn't kill Christ, Pilate didn't either -- Roman soldiers did. Gee, Pontius lost all that sleep over nothing! Oh, and Vlad the Impaler was a really nice guy. He didn't actually impale anybody -- he always ordered his henchmen to come in and do it while he sat and ate lunch. Dracula unchained!!!

It is remarkable that this subject should run on like this. The vast majority of forum pages don't. Exonerating Jews from bloodguilt seems to be an urgent concern for lots of (?) goyim. I'm sorry to be the one to break the news, but the Jews do not reciprocate. The modern pharisees' spies ("little beetle-like men" -- Orwell) are screaming with laughter to see it. Jews accuse, accuse, accuse Christians and whites of every crime imaginable (diaboloi) with nobody around to defend us. They even demagogue other contingents to hate and kill us, which they do with wild abandon.

Because of the Jew world order, everybody reading this is vastly more likely to be raped, robbed, killed or forced into prostitution than they would otherwise. Yeah, it's still a small probability per person nationwide, but it's multiplied dramatically in the Jew age and is rising. It recently came down the internet pike that you're eight times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist; then it was revised to over 50 times so.

Cops didn't used to be murderers. It's not a natural situation in any passably free country, more likely a black-run hellhole like Idi Amin's Uganda. What is turning us into a third-world backwater? Well, who's spent 20 years brainwashing and siccing police into regarding normal citizens as a terrorist threat? The ADL, SPLC and Jewsmedia -- that's who. That's exactly who. So you folks can thank your sainted semites for even this aspect of our condition. Just think, they foment the wars that provide all these tanks that are now being gifted to local police departments across the land, too.... and boy, the gelt they rake in in the process, it could fill Stephen Spielboig's mansion!

Those who “love the Jewish people”, maybe they'd like to vindicate President Rosenfeld and his pal Winnie Churchill next. Yeah, Winnie had a yiddishe mama from Brooklyn! However many people the Nazis murdered, it was a tiny fraction of what these two “heroes” holo-toasted in Dresden alone by means so absolutely shocking it takes your breath away. Winnie and Frankie made the world safe for communism right on schedule..... oops, there I go bringing up another subject embarrassing to God's Chosen.

http://jewishfaces.com/china.html

Why bring all that up? As above, so below. As in 33 AD, so now -- that's why.

Say what you like, folks. Read me as selectively as needed. Repeat process as necessary, LOL! No doubt you'll reassure many. But the Jews killed Jesus. Having someone killed is the same as doing it in law, and the Bible is a 950-page legal document. Yes, the actual killer's guilty too, guilty as hell, but it doesn't exonerate the person putting him up to it by whatever means.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-12   9:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: NeoconsNailed (#24)

The author says that neither the Jews nor the Romans killed Christ: Their governments did.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-12   10:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada (#25)

Now you've had the last word -- except for this one :-)

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-12   11:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: NeoconsNailed (#26) (Edited)

The same 'people' who killed

Abe Lincon / JFK / Michael Hastings / Edger Steel / Andrew Breitbart / George Patten / Gagaffi / The Russian Nicolas Rominoff Family / the Palistians / the ...

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-03-12   11:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#27) (Edited)

Right on! Here's what Jesus told his assassins, "THE JEWS": “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar."

Today's pew-sitters and their pasty-faced preachers would just love to go back through time and tell him "Now, Lord, these scribes and pharisees mean well. These poor misunderstood folks are just trying to uphold God's law as they understand it! Now, we know how you mean these words, but can you understand how they might give others the impression you're turning into an anti-semite or something? And by the way, you were a little hard on Judas....."

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-13   5:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ada (#25) (Edited)

The author says that neither the Jews nor the Romans killed Christ: Their governments did.

just ran across a fascinating observation by a judge who agreed:

The Trial of Jesus

https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/jesustrial.htm

I have some observations of my own but my computer is running too slowly for me to try to make my case, just to note that Rome declared Jesus the King of the Jews, and then crucified Him. So Rome, from whence the Roman Catholic Church commences, in league with the Jewish Rabbis/Pharisees/SANHEDRIN [which has been re-established in Israhell, AND is what US soldiers are in effect fighting all their bloody wars to install over the whole world], killed an innocent Man. Today, they affirm the Jewish [Talmudic Pharisee] Noahide Laws, again indicting Jesus AND His followers, thus vowing to put them to death by decapitation under the "laws" of the religious corporation [bearing symbols such as the eagle, the Roman fasci (?, in the Senate), and the so-called "Star of David"] known as THE UNITED STATES. Some things never change.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2015-03-23   8:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: NeoconsNailed (#28)

The pharisees did mean well in that they meant to lighten the burden of the law. Nevertheless, these "whited sepulchers" were Jesus principal enemies.

Ada  posted on  2015-03-23   10:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ada (#30)

What are you smoking, Ada? I want to try some. Obviously it's costing you at least $300 an ounce!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-23   19:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ada (#0)

The Bible clearly puts the blame on the Jews, not the Romans.

Acts 2:36

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ."

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2015-03-24   1:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ada (#30)

The pharisees did mean well in that they meant to lighten the burden of the law. Nevertheless, these "whited sepulchers" were Jesus principal enemies.

The Pharisees were not poor misguided souls, they were corrupt to the core and only interested in enriching themselves.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2015-03-24   1:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ada (#22)

The Jewish rulers seemed to be guided more by fear than by hate. Unless you believe that Palm Sunday never happened, the ordinary people loved Him.

If the ordinary people loved him, then why did everyone abandon him when the Romans took him? They loved what he was doing with the miracles, but as the Son of God they did not really know him until after he was resurrected. After that the apostles and others were as bold as lions preaching the Gospel everywhere despite the costs. They knew he was who he said he was only after the resurrection, not before.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2015-03-24   1:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

Five dancing Israelis "testified" that goal was carried forward in America by their comrades on September 11, 2001....September 11 being the birth date of Christ [ http://www.cortright.org/revsign.htm ]. Zionized churches now glorify September 11 as "Patriot Day" and honor Americans sent to slaughter innocent Arabs.

wow. very interesting...

Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

christine  posted on  2015-03-24   1:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

Sarah Silverman bragging that she's proud the Jews “killed Christ” and she'd "do it again, I'd f****** do it again" to the riotous amusement of her Jew audience.

That is APPALLING.

For their next demonstration of innocence after the crucifixion, "THE JEWS" spent the book of Acts stoning and crucifying Christians. Today they're stamping out Christianity in the Holy Land and killing the true Christian martyrs in Palestine -- as we speak, pushing their houses over with them inside, giving no warning. All according to their real scriptures, the Talmud..... the same now as 2,000 years ago.

and US ZioChristians have NO idea.

Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

christine  posted on  2015-03-24   1:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: NeoconsNailed, Ada (#18) (Edited)

The Jews are still proudly proclaiming their guilt and are indeed still killing Jesus. You folks and every proper Baptist pew-sitter seem to be the only people left saying otherwise. Christianity is dying in America -- Chuck Baldwin recently spoke in my area and said so. Somebody's causing it to happen, and who but THE JEWS is doing more to make it? SPLC got the 10 Commandments monument thrown out of Judge Roy Moore's courthouse, Jew lawyers are overwhelmingly the ones suing over manger scenes, prayer in schools etc. God knows they swarmed down to Dixie in the Civil Riots era to help destroy such Biblical basics as the rule of law, freedom of association and contract.

Practicing Jews, ones following the Talmud, surely don't have anyone's best interests at heart but their own.

All you have to do is read the Talmud to know just how much Jews hate Jesus Christ. They hate him with a passion, it is part of their religion to hate Jesus Christ and Christians. According to Talmud it is OK for a Jew to lie and steal from you if you aren't a Jew. It is even OK to kill you if you aren't a Jew. Then through massive deception they shift the blame to Islam while they are the ones trying to destroy Christianity while poisoning our food and water supply.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2015-03-24   1:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: RickyJ (#34) (Edited)

Right! One of the many aspects of the good Book that makes it so real, so immediate, so today.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-24   18:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: RickyJ (#34)

If the ordinary people loved him, then why did everyone abandon him when the Romans took him?

I don't think the ordinary people did abandon Jesus. When Pilate offered the mob a choice of who he would release to him, they replied "Give us Barabbas".

"Barabbas" is not now and never has been a Jewish name. The literal translation is Son of the Father. (Bar meaning male child and Abbas meaning father.)

Ada  posted on  2015-03-25   9:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ada (#39)

Everybody abandoned him, even the Apostles.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-03-26   0:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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