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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 25298
Comments: 557

Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews


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Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.

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#2. To: christine (#0)

Uhhhhh...

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-23   10:46:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, christine (#2)

Uhhhhh...

Wtg, christine. Cyni may well have stroked out on this one.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-03-23   11:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated, christine (#3)

Wtg, christine. Cyni may well have stroked out on this one.

One can hope! It seems that our super aviator either doesn't know or care that cell phones didn't work on commercial airliners. The last time I tried it was on a flight to christine's, NO SIGNAL ever, and the plane didn't crash, this was part of our discussion on that visit.

It'll take more than facts or science to wake-up that old fool.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-03-23   13:55:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Hmmmmm (#10)

I have to say, I've left my phone on and seen other passengers with theirs on during takeoff even, and never an issue.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-23   15:38:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Katniss (#11)

how cell phones work in airliners -

computer.howstuffworks.co...obile-phone-services1.htm

Lod  posted on  2015-03-23   16:02:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

Long article, seems to confirm on the first page that calls near takeoff/landing work, but otherwise not so much.

Keep in mind that we're also talking about 2001 technology here. While it may not seem that relevant, advances have been enormous.

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-23   18:02:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Katniss, Lod (#13)

Keep in mind that we're also talking about 2001 technology here. While it may not seem that relevant, advances have been enormous.

Exactly! If you could bring a plane down with a cell phone, computer, Ipod, or radio would they really let you take them on the plane, or confiscate them like water bottles and shampoo. Cell phone call circa. 2001- 02 from cruising speed and altitude, I call bullshit.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2015-03-23   18:21:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Hmmmmm (#14)

Exactly! If you could bring a plane down with a cell phone, computer, Ipod, or radio would they really let you take them on the plane, or confiscate them like water bottles and shampoo. Cell phone call circa. 2001- 02 from cruising speed and altitude, I call bullshit.

Yup!

Katniss  posted on  2015-03-24   9:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dr. Henry Makow's review of Roth's book (#36)

henrymakow.com/

Excerpt:

Rebekah Roth is not a whistle blower. She is a researcher. While very plausible, her hypothesis is just that. It is backed by no references, and she takes forever to get to it.

Her hypothesis is that the planes were commandeered by remote control ("a flight termination system") and landed at nearby airports shortly after takeoff. NORAD and FAA computers were manipulated to show phony flight paths after the jets had actually landed. She calculates that the two jets that left Boston landed at Westover Air Base near Springfield MA. The passengers were told they were participating in a drill and asked to make scripted cell phone calls. One handler is even overheard saying "You did great!" on an answering machine recording. Then the passengers were murdered in cold blood.

After wading through 300 pages of the author walking her dog on Puget Sound and a lame romantic plot, there are some worthwhile scraps. For example, apparently ten of the hijackers are still alive. Mohammed Atta's father said his son worked for Mossad and called him Sept. 12. There are no Arab names on the original passenger manifests; no security camera images; no passenger stubs.

None of the above constitutes "solving 9-11." Roth has a notion that dummy planes were flown into the Trade Center towers. I don't believe any planes crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon. The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later. She has nothing about the complicity of the US political elite, media, CIA or military on 9-11.

Roth describes the villains as "the Octopus," Israel and its enablers, consisting of traitors in US government, media and society. Her heroine and a friend alert the President, "Joel Sherman" of an Israeli plot to set off nuclear bombs in US cities and sow deadly viruses. This will be blamed on Iran and result in war. - See more at: henrymakow.com/#sthash.q4rTIMvu.dpuf

christine  posted on  2015-03-24   11:01:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#37)

Roth has a notion that dummy planes were flown into the Trade Center towers. I don't believe any planes crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon. The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later.

WTC attacks were drones, ie. airliners or tankers converted to appear as passenger aircraft yet were remotely controlled. There were at least tens of thousands of witnesses to the WTC attacks; I doubt they were all "CIA assets". Not to mention every single news agency was covering the event as it unfolded, I doubt all of them were reporting on non-existant events being staged from a central control center in real time.

I think those who insist the no-plane tale is absolute fact are in reality actively involved in the obvious coverup, sowing discord amongst the "truthers", and "proving" to others who actually believe the official government lies concerning 9/11 that all "truthers" are stark raving lunatics.

The Pentagon attack was most likely a drone as well, being substantially smaller than an actual airliner, yet painted to appear as one from a distance.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:46:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker (#48)

WTC attacks were drones, ie. airliners or tankers converted to appear as passenger aircraft yet were remotely controlled.

Oh my lord...

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:51:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#50)

What better way to get rid of pesky evidence at the WTC than totally demolishing the evidence by way of demolition, and removal of any lingering debris to China?

If those buildings HADN'T "fallen down", there'd have been NO way for their plan to have worked.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#52)

What better way to get rid of pesky evidence at the WTC than totally demolishing the evidence by way of demolition, and removal of any lingering debris to China?

That was the greedheads at work as they couldn't wait to rebuild...and there was nothing left to *demolish*...I looked down on that hole for three months before I couldn't take it any more...

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:01:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#53)

there was nothing left to *demolish*...

BTW, the evidence was demolished due to the "collapse" of the towers. If the towers had NOT collapsed, there would have been intact remains of the aircraft in each tower. If they were not the reported aircraft, well, we most likely would be living under a different government by now since the perps would have been hauled off in handcuffs.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:21:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#57)

If the towers had NOT collapsed, there would have been intact remains of the aircraft in each tower.

There were semi-intact remains of the aircraft outside of the towers. I saw some myself.

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:29:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: war (#59)

There were semi-intact remains of the aircraft outside of the towers. I saw some myself.

I'm just curious, were you NYFD or something? I'd think the site would be restricted after the crash/collapse. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, I don't care what really happened that day one way or another anymore. I guess my interest in this clusterfuck of a thread stems from me being a pilot before "Texting Woman" destroyed my life.

Esso  posted on  2015-03-24   15:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Esso (#67)

No. I worked at a company whose NY headquarters are at 1 Liberty Plaza (165 Broadway) and I sat right at the Northwest corner of the building...

I do have a dozen or so NYFD friends and one relative as well as a few NYPD who were on site all day. That's why I know the WTC7 BS is just that. They all saw the South face of the building and knew that it was going to collapse...

war  posted on  2015-03-24   16:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#69) (Edited)

That's why I know the WTC7 BS is just that. They all saw the South face of the building and knew that it was going to collapse...

Pure BS. A weak south face does NOT cause a total collapse across all four corners of a building resulting in a free fall as if there's nothing in the way.

That's why I question your truthfullness in what you "report". You could well have been in Idaho on the morning of 9/11 and simply CLAIM to have been there in NYC and have all these "friends" who KNEW it was "going to collapse"..

Could you provide a link which reports ANY other building on earth falling at free fall speed due to damage on one side of the building?

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   16:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker (#72)

Pure BS. A weak south face does NOT cause a total collapse across all four corners of a building resulting in a free fall as if there's nothing in the way.

The building was supported primarily by its center core.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   16:52:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: lucysmom (#77)

Remember Building 7.org

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   17:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: FormerLurker (#79)

Remember Building 7.org

And here's the rebuttal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056088/Footage-kills-conspiracy-theories-Rare-footage- shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   17:07:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lucysmom (#82)

Oh jeez, do you think a solid building will fall into the path of MOST resistance in a symetrical manner? Even IF one side of the building was TOTALLY destroyed, there is NO POSSIBLE way for it to "fall" straightdown, ESPECIALLY at free fall speed as if there's nothing but air under it...

And THAT is how the perps get away with stuff like this, the majority of Americans have NO understanding of basic physics, as seen by the poor performance in science (as well as a host of other subjects) of US students compared to other nations.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   17:10:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: FormerLurker (#84) (Edited)

Oh jeez, do you think a solid building will fall into the path of MOST resistance in a symetrical manner? Even IF one side of the building was TOTALLY destroyed, there is NO POSSIBLE way for it to "fall" straightdown, ESPECIALLY at free fall speed as if there's nothing but air under it...

Here's another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   22:27:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lucysmom (#95)

Here's another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8

One of the *tricks* of the CTs is to try to pass off the North Face of WTC7 as *proof* that it was undamaged...

It's also ridiculous to claim that this was done to *start* a war...as if they US needed such a violent excuse to do so...

war  posted on  2015-03-25   8:47:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: war (#103)

One of the *tricks* of the CTs is to try to pass off the North Face of WTC7 as *proof* that it was undamaged...

Right. undamaged except for that hole in its side some 20-stories high.

Or that the structure was further weakened by hours of fires let burn because the building was too unstable to send in firemen.

"WTC Building 7 appears to have suffered significant damage at some point after the WTC Towers had collapsed, according to firefighters at the scene. Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. [Firehouse Magazine, 8/02]

Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it is very heavily damaged." [Firehouse Magazine, 5/02]

Heavy, thick smoke rises near 7 World Trade Center. Smoke is visible from the upper floors of the 47- story building. Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11."

www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-25   10:56:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: lucysmom (#116)

Why would ANY structure fall straight down at free fall speed as if there's nothing under it?

The ONLY way that can happen is through controlled demolition, no matter HOW you spin it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   10:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: FormerLurker (#117)

Why would ANY structure fall straight down at free fall speed as if there's nothing under it?

The ONLY way that can happen is through controlled demolition, no matter HOW you spin it.

Apparently controlled demolition isn't the only way a building with structural damage, and then further weakened by fire can come down.

When metal is heated, it loses strength. (I used to love to watch the horseshoer work when I was a kid)

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-25   11:44:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: lucysmom (#139) (Edited)

Apparently controlled demolition isn't the only way a building with structural damage, and then further weakened by fire can come down.

When metal is heated, it loses strength. (I used to love to watch the horseshoer work when I was a kid)

Other than what happened on 9/11, show where in history any other skyscraper has come crashing down due to fire.

And BTW, the jet fuel burnt out after the first 10 minutes. The remaining fires were simple office fires consisting of furniture, paper, and other low temperature fuel items.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:01:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: FormerLurker (#168)

Other than what happened on 9/11, show where in history any other skyscraper has come crashing down due to fire.

First, please show me another building that met the following criteria and did not collapse.

A challenge to conspiracy theorists:

1) Find a steel frame building at least 40 stories high

2) Which takes up a whole city block

3) And is a "Tube in a tube" design

4) Which came off its core columns at the bottom floors (Earthquake, fire, whatever - WTC 7)

5) Which was struck by another building or airliner and had structural damage as a result.

6) And weakened by fire for over 6 hours

7) And had trusses that were bolted on with two 5/8" bolts.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/h i/uk_ne...ereford/worcs/6105942.stm

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-25   17:50:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: lucysmom (#205)

And is a "Tube in a tube" design

Are you that uninformed? Bldg. 7 was a steel framed building, buildings 1 and 2 were of the tube design.

Perhaps you should take the time to read up on the facts.

You can't change the laws of physics just because you don't like them, and there's no possible way a structure falls into its footprint at free fall speed without the help of controlled demolition.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   22:53:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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