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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews Poster Comment: Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.
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#228. To: war (#225)
www.debunking911.com/freefall.ht m You're government propaganda doesn't work here.. From above video link; If there is free fall during ANY part of the collapse, then the building is dropping through an empty void caused by explosives.
Different construction... 100's of commercial planes took off today...none of them crashed... Oh...that collapsed 2 hours in...never mind... --Are you a *Jew*?
Non Sequitur... --Are you a *Jew*?
...which has been debunked because it does not show the entire collapse... --Are you a *Jew*?
Please stay on the topic...the issue is what was damaged by the impact and then further compromised by the fires that resulted in the failure and collapse of the entire building... --Are you a *Jew*?
So why did the undamaged lower sections of the towers turn to pixie dust? What part of "if it is in FREEFALL DURING ANY PART OF THE COLLAPSE, THEN EXPLOSIVES WERE USED" do you fail to comprehend? So then you're a software engineer?
Uh, the building is still there in that image, so it has NOT collapsed. Is your understanding of the English language sort of fuzzy?
Yep, with a background in physics.
Where were the explosives planted?
The Most Outrageous 9/11 Conspiracy Theory On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
WTC7 shows the characteristics of a standard type of controlled demolition where the explosives are placed on structural members of the lower floors to initiate the collapse. WTC 1 and 2 on the other hand were wired for effect, since the world had to believe that the planes hitting the towers and the associated fires were what caused the destruction of each tower. Thus, computer timed detonations had to occur at a precise rate starting from floors immediately below the aress of impact, and sequentially fire downwards to help the upper structure gain velocity at a rate where it'd pick up enough kinetic energy to demolish floors below. Spot on. Bin Laden was never on dialysis...
--Are you a *Jew*?
9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and Explosions in the WTC The independent commission probing the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington decided not to hear from the worker group that lost more lives than anyone else to the terrorists: The Fire Fighters. [Workday Minnesota] [Firefighter Louie] Cacchioli was called to testify privately [before the 9/11 Commission], but walked out on several members of the committee before they finished, feeling like he was being interrogated and cross-examined rather than simply allowed to tell the truth about what occurred in the north tower on 9/11. "My story was never mentioned in the final report [PDF download] and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room," said Cacchioli. "I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out. ... It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible." [Arctic Beacon Edmund McNally phoned his wife Liz twice following the Tom Elliott, WTC 2 survivor: They saw only two firemen going up. They told them there had been an explosion near the 60th floor. [csmonitor] Kim White, WTC 1 survivor: "We got down as far as the 74th floor ... Then there was another explosion, so we left again by the stairwell." [People] 9/11 NBC News broadcast "Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Uh...no...all the hijackers are dead...whether or not some were properly identified has always been a question and one that the US government has admitted to. --Are you a *Jew*?
Until I saw the seat cushions and other debris from AA11, I was wondering if it SAMs were launched at the building...and I looked over at the Century 21 building to see if someone was firing from there...
--Are you a *Jew*?
Most people believe that those 19 "hijackers" identified as such are the real McCoy. Since we both know that those people are NOT the real hijackers, then why continue to identify them as such? In fact, how does anyone know IF there were any REAL hijackers at all? Cell phone calls? Well those calls were impossible back in 2001 if you did any rudimentary research on the topic, starting with the very first post on this thread, as that is what the topic of the thread actually IS. Bullshit. The CIA met Bin Laden while undergoing treatment at an American Hospital last July in Dubai As early as March, 2000, 'Asia Week,' published in Hong Kong, expressed concern for bin Laden's health, describing a serious medical problem that could put his life in danger because of "a kidney infection that is propagating itself to the liver and requires specialized treatment". According to authorized sources, bin Laden had mobile dialysis equipment shipped to his hideout in Kandahar in the first part of 2000. According to our sources, bin Laden's "travels for health reasons" have taken place before. Between 1996 and 1998, bin Laden made several trips to Dubai on business Oh, BTW - he died in 2001, contrary to the fairy tale spun by the Obama administration. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
If they thought that there were bombs then why did they not evacuate? NYFD isn't going to pull their men while there are still people in harm's way. Also, part of the CT narrative is that NYFD stayed in the building and ha reached to just below the crash site. --Are you a *Jew*?
You expect a fed.gov stooge to do actual research? So far what I have seen from that poster is just parroting the official government talking points. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
www.washingtontimes.com/n...03-093215-2153r/?page=all
--Are you a *Jew*?
you are hillarious. you dont know thw.sifferwnce between fascisa and supporting columns. and you speak on distrubetive laods like you think you have understanding of it .... tell me what kind of steel was used in the wtc? a re-enforced tritaniam? b vacumm tempered titatimium? c both? d non of the above. for extra credit you can explain the mesh theory of the outter support structure and how well it has proven itself in other super skyscrapers? now go calculate ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
I'm not responsible for to what degree people care to inform themselves. Since we both know that those people are NOT the real hijackers, then why continue to identify them as such? When was the last time all 19 9/11 hijackers were identified beyond a doubt by a government source? --Are you a *Jew*?
Wha...huh? --Are you a *Jew*?
A mix of A36 and ASTM A 242 steel was used for the flooring support... --Are you a *Jew*?
awww forget that. lets talk about the physics. lets talk about air traffic control policies and standard procedeures at that time. lets talk about low altitube frictions and areodynamics, lets talk about crash physics, lets talk about aftermath, like how much plane fuel burned on the pentagon lawn or the melted steel excavated from the wtc rubble or that hole in the ground in shanksville.... lets touch on all that.
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what you referred to in your earlier post about "supporting columns" you were mis-indentifying the outter alluminum facisa.
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It was a surprise when Republicans, always ready to investigate everything when Clinton was president, were reluctant to investigate 9/11.
let that speak volumes to what congress rats hold in priority... more money was spent investigating a blowjob than was spent on 911.
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If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?
Okay, that made me laugh!
idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.
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FACISA isn't a *word* let alone a *thing*.... --Are you a *Jew*?
Which means that they pulled the men from around it. Which they did. NYFD doesn't have a buildings demolition team. --Are you a *Jew*?
According to *him*, the Penthouse didn't go...in fact, it doesn't exist...look at his videos...they all start AFTER that collapsed. --Are you a *Jew*?
So? What exactly does that mean? Pull out crew? Pull the building down? (we know that didn't happen)
Fascia (architecture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Fascia_(architectur... Mobile-friendly - Fascia is an architectural term for a it is ok that you would.perfer to debate obvious spelling mistakes instead of the.substance of the.issue. we all understand how little you are working with and your desperate desire to distract from the contextual points in favor false information. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
I'm not debating anything at this point...I wanted to know WTF you were *talking* about. Now that you've clarified it, I can respond. You're wrong. The outer columns of the WTC, which is what I was actually referring to, was a support system of STEEL lattice. The designers came up with this system because the traditional method of corner columns, in a building that tall, would not be effective against the winds. BTW, *fascia* runs horizontally. The outer *skin* of the WTC was aluminum...I held a piece of it in my hands the morning of 11th September 2001...I never referred to this skin as being part of the support system...if I did or if I implied as much I *misspoke*. --Are you a *Jew*?
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[This is a reposting of this video which was taken down from the original site, originally posted in August 2008 just after the release of the final draft of the NIST WTC7 Report, prior to the final version which was altered to admit a 2.25 second period of freefall.] This video tracks the motion of the NW corner of Building 7 of the World Trade Center on 9/11 2001. The building was in freefall for a period of ~2.5 seconds. This means it was falling through itself for over 100 feet with zero resistance, an impossibility in any natural scenario. This period of freefall is solid evidence that explosives had to be used to bring the building down. In the final draft for public comment (August 2008) NIST denied that WTC7 fell at freefall. In the final report in Nov 2008 they reversed themselves and admitted freefall, but denied its obvious significance. ----- [The WTC7 series has elicited a number of questions from people unclear on the details of how I did the measurements, compared to how NIST did them and how the representatives of NIST described their measurements. I have therefore created a WTC7 Measurement FAQ page: http://www.911speakout.org/WTC7- Measurement-FAQ.pdf ... . I will also use this FAQ as a place of reference for other questions that arise as well.]
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#229. To: war (#227)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#230. To: FormerLurker (#226)
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This fire in Madrid burnt for approximately 24 hours, yet the building did not collapse.
Looks like it's made mostly of concrete...where's the steel?
#231. To: FormerLurker (#229)
If there is free fall during ANY part of the collapse, then the building is dropping through an empty void caused by explosives.
#232. To: FormerLurker (#228)
From above video link;
#233. To: FormerLurker (#220)
Oh no? So they're still standing there and there was no total collapse?
#234. To: war (#233)
Please stay on the topic...the issue is what was damaged by the impact and then further compromised by the fires that resulted in the failure and collapse of the entire building...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#235. To: war (#232)
...which has been debunked because it does not show the entire collapse...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#236. To: FormerLurker (#224)
I studied electronics early in my life, then physics, then applied those fields to various software development roles.
#237. To: war (#230)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#238. To: lucysmom (#236)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#239. To: FormerLurker (#235)
What part of "if it is in FREEFALL DURING ANY PART OF THE COLLAPSE, THEN EXPLOSIVES WERE USED" do you fail to comprehend?
#240. To: war, Former Lurker (#233)
These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.
Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.
The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening.
The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.
The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.
NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7′s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety".
The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.
This man never existed, nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention, and if you say otherwise you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise him, him, him, and her. (and her and her and him).
Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away. Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away. Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years, releasing video after video with complete impunity (and getting younger and younger as he did so), before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video, in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it. Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies and mobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.
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oh and BTW...... at least 7 of the 19 alleged "hijackers" are still alive and well...
#241. To: lucysmom (#239)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#242. To: Bill D Berger (#240)
oh and BTW...... at least 7 of the 19 alleged "hijackers" are still alive and well...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#243. To: Bill D Berger (#240)
#244. To: FormerLurker, War, Government Fairy-tale Cultists (#216)
[WTC 2] aircraft impact. Mr McNally said in his second phone call "Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me." [NY Times]
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#245. To: FormerLurker (#242)
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oh and BTW...... at least 7 of the 19 alleged "hijackers" are still alive and well...
#246. To: Bill D Berger (#244)
#247. To: war (#245)
Uh...no...all the hijackers are dead...whether or not some were properly identified has always been a question and one that the US government has admitted to.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#248. To: war (#243)
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Bin Laden was never on dialysis...
#249. To: Bill D Berger (#244)
"Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.
#250. To: FormerLurker (#247)
Well those calls were impossible back in 2001 if you did any rudimentary research on the topic, starting with the very first post on this thread
#251. To: Bill D Berger (#248)
#252. To: war (#223)
Also note that the ENTIRE face of exterior support columns have have been wiped ou. Also note that construction steel's load bearing ability is reduced @ 620 degrees Fahrenheit and that's before adding on the concrete slabs of the WTC's flooring.
#253. To: FormerLurker (#247)
Most people believe that those 19 "hijackers" identified as such are the real McCoy.
#254. To: titorite (#252)
you are hillarious. you dont know thw.sifferwnce between fascisa and supporting columns
#255. To: titorite (#252)
...tell me what kind of steel was used in the wtc?
#256. To: war (#253)
#257. To: war (#254)
#258. To: Bill D Berger (#240)
The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish.
#259. To: lucysmom (#258)
#260. To: FormerLurker (#241)
WTC7 shows the characteristics of a standard type of controlled demolition where the explosives are placed on structural members of the lower floors to initiate the collapse.
#261. To: Bill D Berger (#248)
According to authorized sources, bin Laden had mobile dialysis equipment shipped to his hideout in Kandahar in the first part of 2000.
#262. To: lucysmom (#260)
#263. To: titorite (#257)
what you referred to in your earlier post about "supporting columns" you were mis-indentifying the outter alluminum facisa.
#264. To: titorite (#262)
idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.
#265. To: lucysmom (#260)
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If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?
#266. To: titorite (#262)
idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.
#267. To: war (#263)
#268. To: titorite (#267)
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it is ok that you would perfer (sic) to debate obvious spelling mistakes
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