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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Views: 18725
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Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews


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Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.

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#261. To: Bill D Berger (#248)

According to authorized sources, bin Laden had mobile dialysis equipment shipped to his hideout in Kandahar in the first part of 2000.

Okay, that made me laugh!

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   11:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: lucysmom (#260)

idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   12:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: titorite (#257)

what you referred to in your earlier post about "supporting columns" you were mis-indentifying the outter alluminum facisa.

FACISA isn't a *word* let alone a *thing*....

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war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: titorite (#262)

idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.

Which means that they pulled the men from around it. Which they did.

NYFD doesn't have a buildings demolition team.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: lucysmom (#260) (Edited)

If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?

According to *him*, the Penthouse didn't go...in fact, it doesn't exist...look at his videos...they all start AFTER that collapsed.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: titorite (#262)

idk but heard on pbs that the fire department was ordered to pull building seven.

So? What exactly does that mean?

Pull out crew?

Pull the building down? (we know that didn't happen)

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: war (#263)

Fascia (architecture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Fascia_(architectur... Mobile-friendly - Fascia is an architectural term for a

it is ok that you would.perfer to debate obvious spelling mistakes instead of the.substance of the.issue. we all understand how little you are working with and your desperate desire to distract from the contextual points in favor false information.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   12:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: titorite (#267) (Edited)

it is ok that you would perfer (sic) to debate obvious spelling mistakes

I'm not debating anything at this point...I wanted to know WTF you were *talking* about.

Now that you've clarified it, I can respond.

You're wrong.

The outer columns of the WTC, which is what I was actually referring to, was a support system of STEEL lattice. The designers came up with this system because the traditional method of corner columns, in a building that tall, would not be effective against the winds. BTW, *fascia* runs horizontally. The outer *skin* of the WTC was aluminum...I held a piece of it in my hands the morning of 11th September 2001...I never referred to this skin as being part of the support system...if I did or if I implied as much I *misspoke*.

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war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: FormerLurker (#241)

Thus, computer timed detonations had to occur at a precise rate starting from floors immediately below the aress of impact, and sequentially fire downwards to help the upper structure gain velocity at a rate where it'd pick up enough kinetic energy to demolish floors below.

Here's a guy who is a building demolition expert discussing the possibility of explosives used to bring down the twin towers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6ZtXt6W90

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   12:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: lucysmom (#261)

Okay, that made me laugh!

If you think *that* was funny then you should *hear* what the unauthorized sources had to *say*!

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: lucysmom (#260)

If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?

So you think the penthouse is where the crucial failure occured?

LOL!!!!!!!!!

The ENTIRE building is dropping DOWN in all videos, not just the top of the building.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-26   12:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: lucysmom (#269)

Here's a guy who is a building demolition expert discussing the possibility of explosives used to bring down the twin towers.

So what does he say? And who is he, what's his background (ie. work for government, industry, ???)


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-26   12:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: war (#268)

.I held a piece of it in my hands the morning of 11th September 2001...

oh yeah? well my cousins ,uncles, brother was there that day too and he held two peices of it in his hand. then it burned his hands clean off and then the police arrested him for tamping with evidence. about five.years later he died of mesotheloma because of all.the asbestos he breathed in being so close to.ground zero....

tell me war, how much asbestos did you breath in and how much longer do you expect to live ? i mean you must be setting records for living with mesotheloma.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   12:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: titorite (#273) (Edited)

tell me war, how much asbestos did you breath in and how much longer do you expect to live ? i mean you must be setting records for living with mesotheloma.

I was on a Ferryboat @ Whitehall when the first Tower collapsed...could not see my hand in front of my face. No one who was with me that AM is dead. We're all record holders...

I'm in the WTC Health Registry...all my ailments are documented...so far so good tho...

I'm in my late 50's...everything was asbestos when I was a Kid...

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war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: lucysmom (#266)

Pull the building down? (we know that didn't happen)

No, "we" DON'T "know" that.

I KNOW they "pulled the building down" due to simple logic and physical laws.

That's besides all the means, motive, and opportunity.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-26   12:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: FormerLurker (#271)

So you think the penthouse is where the crucial failure occured?

That isn't what she said...she - correctly - pointed out that in a controlled demolition the top of the building would not begin to collapse before the bottom of it...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: war (#274)

so you are asking everyone here to believe.that you breathed all the abestos and concrete and aresolized steel and every other kind of hazard and that you are still here almost fifteen years later typig and jiving with us like a spry 50 year old.....

yeah..... pull the other one.

i think you have successfully and completely invalidated yourself.

man present at wtc collapse. breaths asbestos. doesnt die from mesothemola or.display and ptsd from the event but continues to wage war on conspiracy theorists online, because.if he doesnt refute their questions about the flaws of the offical story then who will...

i think that about sums it up amirite?

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   12:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: titorite (#277) (Edited)

so you are asking everyone here to believe.that you breathed all the abestos and concrete and aresolized steel and every other kind of hazard and that you are still here almost fifteen years later typig and jiving with us like a spry 50 year old.....

Rudy Guiliani is still alive and he's older than me.

Are you under the impression that EVERY first responder and every person who was there that AM at the time of the collapse is dead?

Do you realize how detached from reality that belief is?

Apparently not...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   12:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: war (#276)

That isn't what she said...she - correctly - pointed out that in a controlled demolition the top of the building would not begin to collapse before the bottom of it...

What if they wanted to ensure that whatever was in that penthouse was thoroughly destroyed? It'd be easy enough to place a few charges directly under it (or inside it). However, the fact remains, it wasn't simply that the roof collapsed, the ENTIRE building dropped straight into its own footprint.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-26   13:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: war (#278)

Are you under the impression that EVERY first responder and every person who was there that AM at the time of the collapse is dead?

Do you realize how detached from reality that belief is?

well i cant be more disconnected than a man that claims to of been there ,breathed it all in ,and held it in his hands who then , for great justice, decided to fight the terrorists by refuting conspiracy theroists on the internet.

for the.record. all.the.dogs.that did the cadaver sniffing in those days, they all.died within.a few years. not from old doggie age.either from complications of.inhaling asbestos....

no matter what your 1960s mentality maybe believe, breathing asbestos really is deteimental to the lungs and will kill a person for doing so.

so you know....

if you aint sick you didnt breath it, you didnt hold it, and you just wanna lie.about it.for.reasons of self satisfaction and self entertainment....

so you have a time with that.

ciao

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   13:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: titorite (#280) (Edited)

well i cant be more disconnected than a man that claims to of been there ,breathed it all in ,and held it in his hands who then , for great justice, decided to fight the terrorists by refuting conspiracy theroists on the internet.

Putting aside the Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc nature of your *conclusion*, there was debris from WTC 2 all over the place...I came out of my building at Cortland Street and just kind of picked it up as a reaction. I remember thinking to myself as I surveyed all of the debris, which included airplane items, that these would make a dandy souvenir...then was repulsed by the idea.,..In don't even remember putting the skin down...I do remember picking it up, tho, which I did almost as soon as I came out of the revolving door...

Frankly, you're talking bullshit here. according to you, thousands upon thousands of people should be dead. IN my case, if not from breathing then from picking up a two foot piece of aluminum...

The fact is, we aren't...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   13:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: FormerLurker (#271)

So you think the penthouse is where the crucial failure occured?

LOL!!!!!!!!!

The ENTIRE building is dropping DOWN in all videos, not just the top of the building.

No, I'm not saying that, Im asking a question that LOLing did not answer.

Here's a link to a video showing the progression of the collapse of Building 7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUkvnfV606w

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: FormerLurker (#272)

So what does he say? And who is he, what's his background (ie. work for government, industry, ???)

Watch the video.

As for "who is he"? He and his brother literally wrote the book on controlled demolitions, claiming to have conducted more demolitions than all other companies combined.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: war (#281) (Edited)

The fact is, we aren't...

well of course not. people that were not there wouldnt get sick. those that did not feel the rumble as the towers fell wouldnt experience the ptsd. those that only fight the terrorists by refuting the conspiracy theorist are doing the will of the great george bush because conspirqcy theorists can never be tolerated. Merica!!!

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   13:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: titorite (#284) (Edited)

well of course not. people that were not there wouldnt get sick.

Can you please link me to anything that reveals that thousands and thousands of people who were in lower Manhattan on 11th September 2001 @ appx 10AM are now suffering from mesothelioma or have died form it.

Thanks in advance...

You never mentioned PTSD...but you may want to consider why I mentioned the WTC Health Registry...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   13:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: war (#285) (Edited)

You never mentioned PTSD...but you may want to consider why I mentioned the WTC Health Registry..

nah, it just adds faux crediblity to an otherwise unbelievable story. fight on brave cyber warroir. if you dont refute the truth then who will?

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   13:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: titorite (#277)

man present at wtc collapse. breaths asbestos. doesnt die from mesothemola or.display and ptsd from the event but continues to wage war on conspiracy theorists online, because.if he doesnt refute their questions about the flaws of the offical story then who will...

It is too early to be looking for instances of mesothemola due to exposure on 911.

"You can't really connect mesothelioma directly yet with 9/11 because of the long lag time that will be involved," Raja Flores, M.D., chief of thoracic surgery at New York's Mount Sinai Hospital, told Asbestos.com. "In 20 years, though, you'll see a bump up (in the numbers). It's common sense. Asbestos causes cancer. We've already been seeing it."

No amount of asbestos exposure is safe. And while the majority of mesothelioma cases in America usually come after lengthy occupational exposure, many experts believe that exposure to such a high concentration of asbestos on 9/11 – even for one day – will cause some serious, long-range health problems for many who were there.

www.asbestos.com/news/201...oma-threat-still-causing- uneasy-future-911-survivors/

As for PTSD, not everyone who has been through a traumatic event suffers from PTSD.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: titorite (#280)

for the.record. all.the.dogs.that did the cadaver sniffing in those days, they all.died within.a few years. not from old doggie age.either from complications of.inhaling asbestos....

Last living 9/11 Ground Zero search dog returns to World Trade Center site

Bretagne the golden retriever was just 2 years old when she traveled with her handler to New York after the World Trade Center attacks. Today, the 15-year-old pooch is officially retired from rescue duties, but she still works as a service dog in elementary schools, helping special needs students learn to read.

BY MEG WAGNER NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Published: Thursday, September 11, 2014, 11:36 AM

www.nydailynews.com/new-y...dog-returns-site-article- 1.1936151

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: FormerLurker (#279)

What if they …

Now you're obviously reaching.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: titorite (#280)

no matter what your 1960s mentality maybe believe, breathing asbestos really is deteimental to the lungs and will kill a person for doing so.

The risk is much lower for people who do not smoke.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: lucysmom (#288) (Edited)

here i found one better than you. this last dog tbat died was one one years old at the time.

www.9-1- http://1magazine.com/PPT-Porkchop... Last WTC Search Dog Has Died. Share |. We have received word that the last surviving 9/11 Search & Rescue Dog has died. Porkchop was only one year old when he heroically aided the search at ...

amazing that these.dogs got trained so.fast. normal search and rescue dogs arent.ready.so young.... they must of gotten intensive.inutero training.

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: lucysmom (#289)

Now you're obviously reaching.

Not as much as you, since the penthouse did not initiate the collapse of the entire structure from the bottom.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-26   13:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: titorite (#284)

those that only fight the terrorists by refuting the conspiracy theorist are doing the will of the great george bush because conspirqcy theorists can never be tolerated. Merica!!!

Aren't you confusing toleration with agreement?

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   13:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: lucysmom (#293)

arent you confused about the dogs?

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titorite  posted on  2015-03-26   13:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: titorite (#286)

nah, it just adds faux crediblity to an otherwise unbelievable story. fight on brave cyber warroir. if you dont refute the truth then who will?

Boy do you grossly over-estimate the level of *give a shit* that exists on this side of the keyboard when it comes to what some anonymous dickhead, i.e., *you*, on the internet finds believable...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   13:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: titorite (#286)

nah, it just adds faux crediblity to an otherwise unbelievable story. fight on brave cyber warroir. if you dont refute the truth then who will?

I'd say you are doing a pretty good job attempting to refute the truth. In fact so good, you are destroying your own credibility.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   14:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: titorite (#291)

Clicked on your link and got this result:

custom 404 page for magill

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   14:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: titorite (#286)

BTW, F4um has an autolink feature so you don't have to worry about using HTML when you finally respond to:

Can you please link me to anything that reveals that thousands and thousands of people who were in lower Manhattan on 11th September 2001 @ appx 10AM are now suffering from mesothelioma or have died from it.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   14:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: titorite (#294)

arent you confused about the dogs?

How so?

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-26   14:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: lucysmom (#287)

It is too early to be looking for instances of mesothemola due to exposure on 911.

No no no LM...NYers by the hundreds are dying the streets even as I type this...all from asbestiosis...

--Are you a *Jew*?

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#301. To: lucysmom (#283)

He and his brother literally wrote the book on controlled demolitions, claiming to have conducted more demolitions than all other companies combined.

Oh you mean the folks who picked up the WTC rubble and helped ship it off to China? The same folks who were involved with the demolition of what remained of the Murrah Building in OKC?

You mean Mark Loizeaux, who flip flopped on his comments concerning what happened on the morning of 9/11?

The man who is president of Controlled Demolition Inc., a company heavily dependent on government contracts?

And BTW, controlled demolition techniques have been around long before either of the Loizeaux brothers were ever born.

One of the earliest documented attempts at building implosion was the 1773 razing of Holy Trinity Cathedral in Waterford, Ireland with 150 pounds of gunpowder, a huge amount of explosives at the time. The use of low velocity explosive produced a deafening explosion that instantly reduced the building to rubble.[2]>


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

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