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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Views: 18764
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Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews Poster Comment: Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.
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#401. To: war (#400)
You can have your own beliefs. The cow jumped over the Moon. The Moon is made of green cheese. You can believe in these things. That doesn't make you a bad person. Stupid maybe.
You are certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, and I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I thought otherwise. I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites. Its deliciously hilarious to me. ;+) And actually, I'm in new york city this weekend. Id invite you to lunch, but I'm here with my wife and. Not meeting political folks, although we have met several people from 4um before. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Agencies don't read conspiracy sites, their employees, who are human, do.
You do realize that there are individuals in these agencies and they may simply be reading from their workstations as individuals? I'm in new york city this weekend. Id invite you to lunch, but I'm here with my wife and. Not meeting political folks, although we have met several people from 4um before. Bundle up, stay dry and have fun... --Are you a *Jew*?
Most of our beliefs are based upon information that may not be accurate. As a matter of fact many times we are lied to. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
If you bothered to check the list of tenants that I posted, you would see that a majority of the floors were occupied by Salomon Smith Barney, a stock broker. Their computers had information that would show how certain individuals profited by shorting the airline stocks of the companies that owned the planes that hit the Twin Towers. This, of course, is patently unlawful. And, I might add, a felony. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
LOL "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
war: Different construction... 100's of commercial planes took off today...none of them crashed... Non Sequitur about the planes. war: Looks like it's made mostly of concrete...where's the steel? Oh...that collapsed 2 hours in...never mind... But...but...wouldn't it have violated the Post-9/11 Laws of Physics if concrete didn't turn into pixie dust there and float off? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So the frig what? Stop trying to deflect away from the question. --Are you a *Jew*?
Again...so the frig what? --Are you a *Jew*?
That was the point of that response...I responded to a non-sequitur with a non-sequitur... But...but...wouldn't it have violated the Post-9/11 Laws of Physics if concrete didn't turn into pixie dust there and float off? Huh? --Are you a *Jew*?
What I believe is that it would have been to their advantage for the names to have been released to the public. They tried to tell us what seats they were in before the alleged hijacking. Apparently the lists you refer to were not manifests, but were incomplete lists of victims (some names initially withheld at the request of family members) sans suspects. My sister sent me the passenger lists printed in the Indianapolis, Star Newspaper. There were so many anomalies that it really doesn't make logical sense to worry about one or two elements. What takes a whole lot of faith to believe is that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters were able to defeat the most elaborate defenses, the most expensive intelligence, in the most highly defended place (NYC and at the Pentagon) on earth. Now that takes a monumental leap of faith in my estimation. And, later it became public that while all of America had been grounded (no air flights) 100 or more Bin Ladens were flown out of the country. I don't usually get into this subject but jet fuel is basically kerosene and it isn't capable of reaching temperatures necessary to melt steel and even if it would have on that very special day that still doesn't account for the pulverized concrete that was as fine as baby powder. Many witnesses described explosions. I think the buildings were pre-loaded with bombs of some sort. The whodunnit exactly will probably never be known, but my money wouldn't be on 19 Arabs unless they were acting as contract agents for the CIA or MOSSAD. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
Huh? What takes a whole lot of faith to believe is that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters were able to defeat the most elaborate defenses... Cave dwellers? The only persons whom I see buying in to *myths* are you CTs... --Are you a *Jew*?
Steel wasn't melted...and the *kerosene* was an accelerant to everything around it that could burn... --Are you a *Jew*?
Kerosene (jet fuel) was spent within the first several minutes; paper, wood, and assorted office furniture doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel. Bzzzt, sorry you lose, try again. That statement stands at strong odds with anything remotely associated to reality let alone science. --Are you a *Jew*?
Describe in detail how ANY part of what I wrote is inaccurate, rather than using the standard disinfo BS. No, slim...you made the BS statement...now would be the time to back it up...and the *small* office fires nonsense isn't going to cut it...you had floors fully engulfed in flames...people don't jump from 100 story buldings because a couple of chairs are on fire... --Are you a *Jew*?
Ok slick, I'll try to educate you; A) Because there's smoke and flames doesn't mean you have temperatures reaching anything close to that necessary to weaken steel. B) The fires were practically out prior to the collapse of both towers. One indication of such is that they were spewing BLACK smoke at that time, indicating a very low intensity smouldering fire which was starved of oxygen. C) There were people who survived who were ON the impacted floors, and those you see in the windows were unfortunate enough to be on the wrong side of the fire where they couldn't make it to the stairs. So do you get a bonus if you spin enough lies in a day's time? BTW slickster, I never said they were SMALL. I said they were OFFICE FIRES, ie. they were not chemical fires which might have reached temperatures needed to weaken steel. There was an OFFICE FIRE in one of the towers which lasted for HOURS, yet temperatures were not hot enough to weaken the steel holding the building together. What does thick black, sooty smoke mean? The fires were practically out prior to the collapse of both towers. One indication of such is that they were spewing BLACK smoke at that time, indicating a very low intensity smouldering fire which was starved of oxygen. Everything that you stated is BS. The fires were in no way nearly out. THICK black smoke is an indication of a fire that is both widespread and has plenty of fuel. There were people who survived who were ON the impacted floors, and those you see in the windows were unfortunate enough to be on the wrong side of the fire where they couldn't make it to the stairs What stairs? The stairs were gone on the *impacted* floors. --Are you a *Jew*?
The fires were in no way nearly out. THICK black smoke is an indication of a fire that is both widespread and has plenty of fuel. As far as the color of the smoke, it can mean many things, but it's not a reliable indicator of anything these days since synthetic materials produce black smoke when they burn. As far as evidence of the fires being almost out, apparently YouTube has deleted a live interview on 9/11 with a Fox reporter and a fire official who stated the fires were almost out at the South Tower. So when you have the power to erase evidence, I suppose any story you want to tell contrary to truth is believable. As far as your claim the "stairs" were "gone", people survived on floors ABOVE the impact area and escaped from the South Tower. From Wikipedia While Praimnath screamed for someone to come help him, Euro Brokers executive Brian Clark from the 84th floor and a group of his coworkers were debating in the stairwell whether to descend through the impact zone using the stairwell, which they had been told was impassable, or to climb to the roof. While Clark listened to his coworkers debating this, his attention shifted when he could hear Praimnath's faint screams for help. Clark made his way to Praimnath by using his flashlight and by following Praimnath's voice. As Clark was on his way to find Praimnath, he quickly turned back towards his coworkers and saw they had decided to climb up the stairs instead of going down. (Consequently, all of Clark's coworkers were killed.) Once Clark had found Praimnath, he could see there was a wall between them that managed to stay in place after impact. Clark instructed Praimnath that Praimnath's only option was to jump up and climb over the wall, which Praimnath didn't think he was able to do. On Praimnath's first attempt, he didn't make it and instead hit a piece of wood with a nail sticking out of it, piercing his hand in the process. Praimnath tried a couple more times to jump up and finally Clark, on the other side of the wall, was able to get his hands around Praimnath and help him get over the wall. The two men made their way to the stairwell, which Clark had already been told was blocked further down. However, Clark and Praimnath wanted to see for themselves if the stairs were really impassable. They descended down the stairs, and while there was debris in some spots, the two men were able to get through it and continue down the stairs and out of the building. (They were two of only fourteen survivors from above the impact zone to survive the day from the South Tower.) So what sort of bizzaro world do you live in war where fire is not hot enough to burn a human being, but hot enough to weaken steel to a point of structural failure?
That turns out to not be true. According to National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the "9/11 Commission") …we found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001. To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened.
So poster war may not be a so called conspiracy theorist, but all the government establishments he defends apparently are. ;-) ha!! Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
You and snopes are full of shit !
"We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
Because the steel was not directly exposed to the heat of the fires nor were any supporting columns blasted out... --Are you a *Jew*?
In what bizzaro world do you live in wherein humans do not try to get away from fire that is capable of burning them...? --Are you a *Jew*?
Your offering as evidence something that you admit does not exist. The nonsense that the *fires* were nearly *out* is based upon the reports of two fireman who reached floors well below the impact zone and reported that there were *small;* fires there. I know what my own eyes saw and what plenty of video evidence that ACTUALLY exists on Youtube and that's the fact that fires in both buildings were raging out of control. --Are you a *Jew*?
'"It was like fighting a blow torch" according to Captain Harold Kull of Engine Co. 6..." --Are you a *Jew*?
Bzzzt, sorry you lose, try again. I hadn't seen "war's" comment regarding the jet fuel because I bozo'd the idiot ! It seems the shills are marching into 4UM from somewhere all of a sudden. I don't mind entertaining an idea at variance with my own unless it's ridiculous. These characters, lucysmom and war seem to be conjoined twins from zio-nazi-ville. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
81st floor was at the bottom of the impact zone...
--Are you a *Jew*?
Who can argue against logic like that?
That's what he was counting upon...
--Are you a *Jew*?
Not all of a sudden, I've been a member for years.
Do you just make this stuff up off the top of your head, hoping that nobody with a functional brain will question it? The South Tower impact damage ranged from the 78th to the 84th floor. From USA Today So obviously there was NO raging fire hot enough to weaken steel if people were able to escape through the stairwell from above the impact zone. Why can't you simply admit that you have no idea what you're talking about? They certainly do appear to work as a team. Hmmmmm. I guess that makes him right about something.
You're saying that the fires were so hot they could weaken steel, yet people were able to walk through the area of those alleged raging fires without getting burnt. So you're trying to say that humans are more resistant to heat than hardened structural steel, eh? The evidence DID in fact exist until your team destroyed it, ie. YouTube was forced (by government or corporate pressure) to delete the video from its site. No they weren't. --Are you a *Jew*?
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#402. To: war (#400)
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs?
#403. To: Artisan (#402)
I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites. Its deliciously hilarious to me. ;+)
#404. To: Artisan (#402)
I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites.
#405. To: war (#400)
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs?
#406. To: war (#390)
Why would the plan to destroy the WTC complex be kept on computers of private companies? Or is NYC part of the conspiracy?
#407. To: Artisan (#399)
So poster war may not be a so called conspiracy theorist, but all the government establishments he defends apparently are.
#408. To: war, FormerLurker (#230)
FormerLurker: This fire in Madrid burnt for approximately 24 hours, yet the building did not collapse.
Madrid Pic
#409. To: BTP Holdings (#406)
If you bothered to check the list of tenants that I posted, you would see that a majority of the floors were occupied by Salomon Smith Barney, a stock broker.
#410. To: BTP Holdings (#406)
Their computers had information that would show how certain individuals profited by shorting the airline stocks of the companies that owned the planes that hit the Twin Towers.
#411. To: GreyLmist (#408)
Non Sequitur about the planes.
#412. To: lucysmom (#396)
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Do you believe that the government managed to plan and implement the false flag attack on 911, with all planning and coordination that entails, but left out a a little detail like remembering to place the names of the hijackers on passenger lists?
#413. To: noone222 (#412)
They tried to tell us what seats they were in before the alleged hijacking.
#414. To: noone222 (#412)
I don't usually get into this subject but jet fuel is basically kerosene and it isn't capable of reaching temperatures necessary to melt steel
#415. To: war, noone222 (#414)
Steel wasn't melted...and the *kerosene* was an accelerant to everything around it that could burn...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#416. To: FormerLurker (#415)
Kerosene (jet fuel) was spent within the first several minutes; paper, wood, and assorted office furniture doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel.
#417. To: war (#416)
That statement stands at strong odds with anything remotely associated to reality let alone science.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#418. To: FormerLurker (#417)
Describe in detail how ANY part of what I wrote is inaccurate, rather than using the standard disinfo BS.
#419. To: war (#418)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#420. To: war (#418)
and the *small* office fires nonsense isn't going to cut it
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#421. To: FormerLurker (#419)
Because there's smoke and flames doesn't mean you have temperatures reaching anything close to that necessary to weaken steel.
#422. To: war (#421)
Everything that you stated is BS.
When American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower, Praimnath started to evacuate from his 81st floor office in the South Tower, but he returned when the building's security guards said the South Tower was secure, and workers should return to their offices. He did not realize, at that point, that a plane had struck the North Tower. Soon after reentering his office, he saw United Airlines Flight 175 heading directly towards him. Right before impact, he dove under his desk and exclaimed, "Lord, I can't do this! You take over!" The left wing sliced through his office and became lodged in a door twenty feet from him. [1] Praimnath was bruised and covered in debris after the crash which left him stuck and unable to escape on his own.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#423. To: war (#421)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#424. To: noone222 (#412)
And, later it became public that while all of America had been grounded (no air flights) 100 or more Bin Ladens were flown out of the country.
#425. To: Artisan (#399)
I don't know if the city of new york is part of the 911 conspiracy, but an amusing sidenote is that New York City visits my website for years, including multiple times just yesterday. & my site is a 9/11 zionist conspiracy site. They also read my stuff about bill bratton the degenerate freemason regularly, along with NYPD precincts throughout the state.
#426. To: lucysmom (#424)
#427. To: FormerLurker (#420)
There was an OFFICE FIRE in one of the towers which lasted for HOURS, yet temperatures were not hot enough to weaken the steel holding the building together.
#428. To: FormerLurker (#423)
So what sort of bizzaro world do you live in war where fire is not hot enough to burn a human being, but hot enough to weaken steel to a point of structural failure?
#429. To: FormerLurker (#423)
As far as evidence of the fires being almost out, apparently YouTube has deleted a live interview on 9/11 with a Fox reporter and a fire official who stated the fires were almost out at the South Tower.
#430. To: FormerLurker (#420)
The 1975 World Trade Center Fire
#431. To: FormerLurker (#415)
Kerosene (jet fuel) was spent within the first several minutes; paper, wood, and assorted office furniture doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel.
#432. To: FormerLurker (#422)
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#433. To: noone222 (#426)
You and snopes are full of shit !
#434. To: lucysmom (#433)
#435. To: noone222 (#431)
It seems the shills are marching into 4UM from somewhere all of a sudden.
#436. To: war (#432)
81st floor was at the bottom of the impact zone...
• One stairway in the south tower remained open above the crash, but few used it to escape. Stairway A, one of three, was unobstructed from top to bottom. The jet crashed into the 78th through 84th floors of the south tower. A few people escaped from the 78th floor down these stairs. One person went down the stairs from the 81st floor, two from the 84th floor and one from the 91st. Others went up these stairs in search of a helicopter rescue that wasn't possible because of heavy smoke on the rooftop.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#437. To: noone222 (#431)
It seems the shills are marching into 4UM from somewhere all of a sudden. I don't mind entertaining an idea at variance with my own unless it's ridiculous. These characters, lucysmom and war seem to be conjoined twins from zio-nazi-ville
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#438. To: war (#434)
That's what he was counting upon...
#439. To: war (#428)
In what bizzaro world do you live in wherein humans do not try to get away from fire that is capable of burning them...?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#440. To: war (#429)
Your offering as evidence something that you admit does not exist.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#441. To: FormerLurker (#439)
You're saying that the fires were so hot they could weaken steel, yet people were able to walk through the area of those alleged raging fires without getting burnt.
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