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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Views: 18976
Comments: 557

Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews


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Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.

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#37. To: Dr. Henry Makow's review of Roth's book (#36)

henrymakow.com/

Excerpt:

Rebekah Roth is not a whistle blower. She is a researcher. While very plausible, her hypothesis is just that. It is backed by no references, and she takes forever to get to it.

Her hypothesis is that the planes were commandeered by remote control ("a flight termination system") and landed at nearby airports shortly after takeoff. NORAD and FAA computers were manipulated to show phony flight paths after the jets had actually landed. She calculates that the two jets that left Boston landed at Westover Air Base near Springfield MA. The passengers were told they were participating in a drill and asked to make scripted cell phone calls. One handler is even overheard saying "You did great!" on an answering machine recording. Then the passengers were murdered in cold blood.

After wading through 300 pages of the author walking her dog on Puget Sound and a lame romantic plot, there are some worthwhile scraps. For example, apparently ten of the hijackers are still alive. Mohammed Atta's father said his son worked for Mossad and called him Sept. 12. There are no Arab names on the original passenger manifests; no security camera images; no passenger stubs.

None of the above constitutes "solving 9-11." Roth has a notion that dummy planes were flown into the Trade Center towers. I don't believe any planes crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon. The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later. She has nothing about the complicity of the US political elite, media, CIA or military on 9-11.

Roth describes the villains as "the Octopus," Israel and its enablers, consisting of traitors in US government, media and society. Her heroine and a friend alert the President, "Joel Sherman" of an Israeli plot to set off nuclear bombs in US cities and sow deadly viruses. This will be blamed on Iran and result in war. - See more at: henrymakow.com/#sthash.q4rTIMvu.dpuf

Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

christine  posted on  2015-03-24   11:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All (#37)

I have to ask; isn't Rebekah (the OT spelling of Rebecca) Roth a name one associates with a Jew deli in lower Manhattan? Do we know anything about her CV? Her YouTube channel has the Stanford University logo in the left hand corner of the face page. Is she a graduate?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-24   11:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#37)

None of the above constitutes "solving 9-11." Roth has a notion that dummy planes were flown into the Trade Center towers. I don't believe any planes crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon. The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later. She has nothing about the complicity of the US political elite, media, CIA or military on 9-11.

I'm a CIA plant?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   11:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

"All 58 passengers, four flight attendants, and both pilots on board, as well as 125 occupants of the Pentagon, died."

Near 20,000 body parts were gathered within the Pentagon, all but 200 were identified by DNA or visual means.

I often wonder how the CIA got the Pentagon workers to disappear voluntarily?

By the way, I seem to recall that DNA showed two of the bad guys were brothers, which no one knew.

I know, I know, all not relavent.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-03-24   12:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#40)

Near 20,000 body parts were gathered within the Pentagon, all but 200 were identified by DNA or visual means.

I often wonder how the CIA got the Pentagon workers to disappear voluntarily?

If you notice the men getting off the bus in the following video (at about the 43 sec mark), carrying large dark duffel bags, they are most likely the ones who peppered the Pentagon lawn with "debris" and "body parts".

Could you please point me to ANY images of the cockpit, tail section, seats, luggage, or anything else that would be consistent with an airliner flying into a solid object?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   13:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war (#39)

I'm a CIA plant?

Well, you had me fooled!

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   13:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#42)

Did I say that out loud?

Dammit...now I have to kill everybody...

Okay...line up in an orderly fashion...no talking or gum chewing please...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: FormerLurker (#41)

Could you please point me to ANY images of the cockpit, tail section, seats, luggage, or anything else that would be consistent with an airliner flying into a solid object?

You do realize that your question is the answer?

BTW, on the North Side of 1 Liberty Plaza on Cortland Street, there was some skin from the outside of the plane that had hit the North Tower, some seat cushions and some life preservers and air masks strewn along the street. I remember thinking, "Wow...I should take some of these as souvenirs!" and then being immediately repulsed by the thought.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#44) (Edited)

You do realize that your question is the answer?

Have you never seen images of real wreckage from a real crash? Can you show me where the tail is in the Pentagon "debris"?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#37)

The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later. She has nothing about the complicity of the US political elite, media, CIA or military on 9-11.

I remember watching a live broadcast and seeing the second plane hit - how did the CIA manage to dub that in after the fact?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYE4zViAAg

12 minute mark.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   14:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#45)

Have you never seen images of real wreckage from a real crash? Can you show me where the tail is in the Pentagon "debris"?

Planes are made of and transport materials that essentially disintegrate on impact...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#37)

Roth has a notion that dummy planes were flown into the Trade Center towers. I don't believe any planes crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon. The filmmakers and "eye witnesses" were CIA plants and the planes were dubbed in later.

WTC attacks were drones, ie. airliners or tankers converted to appear as passenger aircraft yet were remotely controlled. There were at least tens of thousands of witnesses to the WTC attacks; I doubt they were all "CIA assets". Not to mention every single news agency was covering the event as it unfolded, I doubt all of them were reporting on non-existant events being staged from a central control center in real time.

I think those who insist the no-plane tale is absolute fact are in reality actively involved in the obvious coverup, sowing discord amongst the "truthers", and "proving" to others who actually believe the official government lies concerning 9/11 that all "truthers" are stark raving lunatics.

The Pentagon attack was most likely a drone as well, being substantially smaller than an actual airliner, yet painted to appear as one from a distance.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lucysmom (#46)

Well...in real time, they certainly *dubbed* in something very large and very loud over my very head around 9:03AM 11th Sep 2001...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker (#48)

WTC attacks were drones, ie. airliners or tankers converted to appear as passenger aircraft yet were remotely controlled.

Oh my lord...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   14:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#47)

Planes are made of and transport materials that essentially disintegrate on impact...

Well Google "aircraft crashes' and view the images, you can see they don't vaporize or disintegrate on impact.

So IF hypothetically there is SO much force and energy in an event to totally vaporize several tons of metal, where the wings of the aircraft don't even blow up as they hit a concrete wall, they simply vanish like they were beamed up from the Star Ship Enterprise, why would remnants of human bodies not disappear as well in your opinion?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#50)

What better way to get rid of pesky evidence at the WTC than totally demolishing the evidence by way of demolition, and removal of any lingering debris to China?

If those buildings HADN'T "fallen down", there'd have been NO way for their plan to have worked.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   14:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#52)

What better way to get rid of pesky evidence at the WTC than totally demolishing the evidence by way of demolition, and removal of any lingering debris to China?

That was the greedheads at work as they couldn't wait to rebuild...and there was nothing left to *demolish*...I looked down on that hole for three months before I couldn't take it any more...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#53)

That was the greedheads at work as they couldn't wait to rebuild...and there was nothing left to *demolish*...

And they didn't preserve anything for any sort of investigation...


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war (#47)

Planes are made of and transport materials that essentially disintegrate on impact...

One more very important question. What would be the rational for designing a passenger craft that would effectively be guaranteed to kill everyone on board if an accident were to occur?

Hate to tell you this, but planes are made of extremely durable materials that can withstand hundred's of thousands of pounds of force in everyday use, such as the ability to safely lift over 220,000 pounds (757 take off weight unloaded) for round the clock use, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

Planes do not simply "vaporize" upon impact.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#54)

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-03-24   15:15:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#53)

there was nothing left to *demolish*...

BTW, the evidence was demolished due to the "collapse" of the towers. If the towers had NOT collapsed, there would have been intact remains of the aircraft in each tower. If they were not the reported aircraft, well, we most likely would be living under a different government by now since the perps would have been hauled off in handcuffs.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#51)

Well Google "aircraft crashes' and view the images, you can see they don't vaporize or disintegrate on impact.

When a solid object directly and head on impacts a solid object there's not going to be much left...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#57)

If the towers had NOT collapsed, there would have been intact remains of the aircraft in each tower.

There were semi-intact remains of the aircraft outside of the towers. I saw some myself.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: war (#58) (Edited)

When a solid object directly and head on impacts a solid object there's not going to be much left...

It's apparent you've never studied physics. What you said is false.

There's elastic and inelastic collisions. An example of an elastic collision is one where an object such as a baseball is impacted by a bat. The ball travels away from the point of impact and kinetic energy is conserved by way of the ball travelling through the air after being struck by the bat.

An inelastic collision is one where kinetic energy is not conserved and the objects stick together, such as a plane crashing into the ground.

The mass of the objects do not "disappear" just because they hit with high energy unless you're talking about something which can effectively turn to dust and dissipate. No aircraft will simply turn to dust, and its mass will remain after the collision, perhaps in many pieces, but it will ALL remain.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#59)

There were semi-intact remains of the aircraft outside of the towers. I saw some myself.

Not saying there weren't, but I doubt they were taken into custody and properly analyzed, and I HIGHLY doubt any of that debris still remains under lock and key for future investigation.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: FormerLurker (#60) (Edited)

It's apparent you've never studied physics. What you said is false.

Much left that is *recognizable*...I should have said...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: war (#62)

Ah, losing the argument so now it's time to get down with the name calling, eh?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FormerLurker (#61)

Not saying there weren't, but I doubt they were taken into custody and properly analyzed, and I HIGHLY doubt any of that debris still remains under lock and key for future investigation.

Analyzed for what?

BTW, they are still finding debris...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#63) (Edited)

Yea...sorry...sometimes it's frustrating...apologies and edited...but we aren't arguing and I'm not losing...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   15:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war (#64)

Analyzed for what?

BTW, they are still finding debris...

Well unless you're able to obtain the item, analyze it's serial number(s), and verify it's authenticity, you don't have a leg to stand on.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: war (#59)

There were semi-intact remains of the aircraft outside of the towers. I saw some myself.

I'm just curious, were you NYFD or something? I'd think the site would be restricted after the crash/collapse. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, I don't care what really happened that day one way or another anymore. I guess my interest in this clusterfuck of a thread stems from me being a pilot before "Texting Woman" destroyed my life.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2015-03-24   15:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#65)

What it comes down to war is that the tale of 9/11 as spun by the media and the government is physically impossible, besides being absolutely nonsensical and requires ignoring actual observed events to be even remotely believable to the non-scientifically minded common folk.

Then again, why would our government want to start a WAR for no reason, right? And why would they allow guilty banksters to not only walk on criminal charges, but bail them out with TRILLIONS of tax payer dollars?

And how could they simply forget that the DOD couldn't account for 2.3 TRILLION dollars, as reported the day prior to 9/11/2001?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   15:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Esso (#67)

No. I worked at a company whose NY headquarters are at 1 Liberty Plaza (165 Broadway) and I sat right at the Northwest corner of the building...

I do have a dozen or so NYFD friends and one relative as well as a few NYPD who were on site all day. That's why I know the WTC7 BS is just that. They all saw the South face of the building and knew that it was going to collapse...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-24   16:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: war (#69)

Thanks for your reply.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2015-03-24   16:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Esso (#67)

I guess my interest in this clusterfuck of a thread stems from me being a pilot before "Texting Woman" destroyed my life.

Now you've got my undivided attention. Tell us more.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-24   16:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#69) (Edited)

That's why I know the WTC7 BS is just that. They all saw the South face of the building and knew that it was going to collapse...

Pure BS. A weak south face does NOT cause a total collapse across all four corners of a building resulting in a free fall as if there's nothing in the way.

That's why I question your truthfullness in what you "report". You could well have been in Idaho on the morning of 9/11 and simply CLAIM to have been there in NYC and have all these "friends" who KNEW it was "going to collapse"..

Could you provide a link which reports ANY other building on earth falling at free fall speed due to damage on one side of the building?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   16:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: FormerLurker (#72)

Please don't imply that war is a liar. It'll set him off like a firecracker.

He's not.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-24   16:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

I don't know him personally, so I look at all possibilities and options.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-24   16:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker, war (#72)

a total collapse across all four corners of a building resulting in a free fall as if there's nothing in the way.

WTC7 was indicative of a building that was demolished. It fell in free fall.

This was done to destroy the computer hard drives that contained evidence that would show the true perpetrators of 9-11.

It was the U.S., Israel, and Saudi Arabia that were in cahoots over the events of 9-11. Witness the "5 dancing Israelis". The dancing implied "foreknowledge" of the event. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-03-24   16:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Fred Mertz (#71) (Edited)

Tell us more.

Chrissy posted two articles titled Esso. Long story, short, some woman who was so important, was texting and hit me head on. She was in a big van and I was in a Honda Fit. She bruised her knee, the doctors said I should've died & wish I would have. The doctors have been pretty much worthless. Closure was about 60MPH.

Unfortunately, that day I forgot to wear my helmet, HANS device, hearing protection and everything else a NASCAR driver gears up with.

The end can't come soon enough.

The woman had state minimum insurance coverage. That was burnt up in the first 20 minutes before the coverage covered it.

Two weeks after the accident my wife of 33 years divorced me and took everything I worked for.

Have a nice day. :)

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2015-03-24   16:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker (#72)

Pure BS. A weak south face does NOT cause a total collapse across all four corners of a building resulting in a free fall as if there's nothing in the way.

The building was supported primarily by its center core.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-24   16:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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