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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Views: 19214
Comments: 557

Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews


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Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.

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#171. To: war (#170)

Uh...no...the top of the South tower tilted and landed squarely on the north face of the Banker's Trust Building and took a huge assed scoop put of it. The North Tower fell west and north and damaged 1 WFC, Verizon and, of course, WTC7.

So then, you're saying the remainder of the buildings did not collapse and are still there?

Of course they're not there, and they did NOT lean to any side and topple over, contrary to your spin doctor tactics and comments.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Jethro Tull (#169)

Michael Rivero agrees.

Rivero's point is that "no-planers" are "poisoning the well".

He's wrong on what he claims concerning the aircraft that hit the Pentagon. If it had been a 757 we would have seen videos of it happening over, and over, and over, and over...

That and it would have dove from the sky and hit downwards, it would NOT have flown in at ground level going 500 mph or so without so much as kissing the grass of the Pentagon lawn.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: war (#110)

Well the question probably doesn't apply to most people because most people on facebook already use their name, which makes this issue irrelevant. If someone users a monicker or pseudonym facebook apparently has an automated program which detects it and then they demand your real name.

From what I've seen most folks use their real name but in political or activist circles many use monickers. I've got the screenshots of all these demands but I'm sure my descirption suffices. Not a big deal since they deemed my site "dangerous" anyway and forbid links to it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-03-25   14:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: FormerLurker (#172)

He's wrong on what he claims concerning the aircraft that hit the Pentagon.

I'm not sure why he chose today to tweet this out, but as you can see he's concerned about the story being hijacked (pun intended).

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-03-25   14:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: FormerLurker (#168)

Other than what happened on 9/11, show where in history any other skyscraper has come crashing down due to fire.

None of the WTC skyscrapers fell due to *fire*. They fell because some sort of massive impact had compromised their structural integrity. It wasn't a matter of *if*; it was a matter of *when*...

And BTW, the jet fuel burnt out after the first 10 minutes. The remaining fires were simple office fires consisting of furniture, paper

Another outright lie. Were you in the building? And please don't bother posting the *reports* of NYFD 20odd floors below the main impact reporting what it was like on one or two floors as being indicative of the ENTIRE building...

and other low temperature fuel items.

Wha...chuckle...huh?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Jethro Tull (#174)

I'm not sure why he chose today to tweet this out, but as you can see he's concerned about the story being hijacked (pun intended).

Don't know either. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: FormerLurker (#171) (Edited)

So then, you're saying the remainder of the buildings did not collapse and are still there?

I didn't say that anywhere.

Of course they're not there, and they did NOT lean to any side and topple over, contrary to your spin doctor tactics and comments.

I never stated that they toppled over...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:41:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Artisan (#173) (Edited)

Well the question probably doesn't apply to most people because most people on facebook already use their name, which makes this issue irrelevant.

I use two very fake names for gaming and have never been asked.

Ever.

It's currently 73 *No* and 0 *Yes*...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: war (#175)

They fell because some sort of massive impact had compromised their structural integrity. It wasn't a matter of *if*; it was a matter of *when*...

You are obviously oblivious to the fact that they were designed to withstand a direct hit from an airliner. The designer said something like, "it'd be like sticking a pencil into a net", where the immediate area of the entrance hole would be damaged but the net itself would remain intact.

Another outright lie. Were you in the building? And please don't bother posting the *reports* of NYFD 20odd floors below the main impact reporting what it was like on one or two floors as being indicative of the ENTIRE building...

Coming from a pathological troll who twists, distorts, and ignores any REAL facts, that's pretty much a compliment.

The NIST report states that the jet fuel was spent after the first few minutes after the initial impacts. Read it yourself, troll.

In other words, it was IMPOSSIBLE for the office fires to have superheated the structure itself, thus the supporting steel structure did NOT weaken or fail, and the tale of it happening that way is a certifiable LIE.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: FormerLurker (#172)

https://youtu.be/9SSS0DDqfm0

You can clearly see the top part of the building falling to the left,.,,

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: war (#177)

That image doesn't show the UNDAMAGED 100 or so floors BELOW it. If ONLY the top of the towers had slid off, then we would not be arguing about it.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: war (#180)

You can clearly see the top part of the building falling to the left,.,,

Before the remaining 100 or so UNDAMAGED floors simply decide to behave as if they're made of pixie dust.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   14:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: FormerLurker (#179)

You are obviously oblivious to the fact that they were designed to withstand a direct hit from an airliner.

You are obviously oblivious to the fact that it was the *webbing* of the outside of the building that was so constructed. Not the interior core.

The NIST report states that the jet fuel was spent after the first few minutes after the initial impacts. Read it yourself, troll.

Can you point out where I stated otherwise. Anyone who uses charcoal lto barbecue knows that *fuel* burns off.

In other words, it was IMPOSSIBLE for the office fires to have superheated the structure itself, thus the supporting steel structure did NOT weaken or fail...

It was not *impossible*. IN fact, it happened. At 700degrees the trusses become compromised.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: FormerLurker (#182)

Before the remaining 100 or so UNDAMAGED floors simply decide to behave as if they're made of pixie dust.

100 undamaged floors?

The planes took out between 15 and 20 floors of 106 floor buildings essentially detaching the upper floors, which weighed TONS, from the lower floors...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   14:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: war (#184)

The planes took out between 15 and 20 floors of 106 floor buildings essentially detaching the upper floors, which weighed TONS, from the lower floors...

Ok, lets say the undamaged 75 to 90 floors below.

The undamaged floors had ALWAYS supported the upper structure above them since they were built, and were designed to do so.

And YOU claim the top structures basically toppled over, which they didn't, but if they HAD then there would have been NO weight above the remaining structure at all after the upper structures slid off the undamaged sections.

There's absolutely no reason for the UNDAMAGED 75 to 90 floors below to act as if they weren't there.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   15:07:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: war (#183)

You are obviously oblivious to the fact that it was the *webbing* of the outside of the building that was so constructed. Not the interior core.

Wow. You're trying to say the architects designed only the OUTSIDE of the WTC towers to withstand a direct hit from an airliner, they didn't care what happened to the structure itself?

It was not *impossible*. IN fact, it happened. At 700degrees the trusses become compromised.

Pure BS. The WTC years earlier had office fires raging through them that lasted for HOURS. On 9/11 the towers collapsed in LESS than an hour.

AND, there's no physical way for the steel to fail due to a simple office fire, the heat is not sufficient.

BTW, was yukon your mentor? You have the same tired old arguments he had made.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   15:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: FormerLurker (#185)

The undamaged floors had ALWAYS supported the upper structure above them since they were built, and were designed to do so.

Uh...no...the building was constructed with an outer frame to which vertical trusses were attached and then connected to an inner cement core.

And YOU claim the top structures basically toppled over

No I did not. I stated that they did not fall STRAIGHT DOWN...which is not only clearly shown in the video I provided but is apparent from the damage caused to the surrounding structures.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   15:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: FormerLurker (#186)

Wow. You're trying to say the architects designed only the OUTSIDE of the WTC towers to withstand a direct hit from an airliner, they didn't care what happened to the structure itself?

“The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door—this intense grid—and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.”

_Frank A. Demartini, on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center, January 25, 2001:

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   15:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: war (#149)

But the more important reason is that most of the building did collapse...not just one side of it...

Apparently you have a problem with facts and reality.

The Murrah building certainly did NOT collapse, it was still standing after the bombing.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   15:19:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: war (#178)

It appears they selectively enforce their rules then. Happy gaming! If u ever are critical of israel or the police state on fb maybe they will revoke your very fake gaming name.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-03-25   15:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: war (#188)

“The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door—this intense grid—and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.”

_Frank A. Demartini, on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center, January 25, 2001:

So there you go, the man said the building could withstand MULTIPLE impacts from airliners without failing.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   15:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: FormerLurker (#191)

So there you go...

No, slim, there YOU go; he's talking about the *OUTSIDE* of the building...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   15:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: FormerLurker (#189)

What's all that debris on the ground?

What's the big gouge on the left side from which debris is cascading in the direction of *gravity*?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   15:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Artisan (#190)

If u ever are critical of israel or the police state on fb maybe they will revoke your very fake gaming name.

You are the only person whom I have ever read state this.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   15:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: war (#192)

No, slim, there YOU go; he's talking about the *OUTSIDE* of the building...

Are you REALLY that dumb? So you think when the man said the structure could withstand multiple impacts from airliners, he was only talking about the decorative outer sheathing?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   16:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: war (#193)

What's all that debris on the ground?

What's the big gouge on the left side from which debris is cascading in the direction of *gravity*?

The structure did not collapse into its own footprint did it. And while the explosion blew an entire slice of the building outwards, the building itself was still standing afterwards.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   16:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: FormerLurker (#195)

Are you REALLY that dumb? So you think when the man said the structure could withstand multiple impacts from airliners, he was only talking about the decorative outer sheathing?

Can you point out which other part of the Twin Towers had *webbing* or *netting* like a *screen* on a screen *door*?

Thanks in advance...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   16:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: FormerLurker (#196)

The structure did not collapse into its own footprint did it.

Do you see any major debris field outside of its *footprint*?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-25   16:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: war (#197)

Can you point out which other part of the Twin Towers had *webbing* or *netting* like a *screen* on a screen *door*?

Thanks in advance...

The floors were connected to a central steel core, and that is part of the "netting" design in that nothing penetrating the building such as an airliner could or would cause the entire structure to fail.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   16:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: war (#198)

Do you see any major debris field outside of its *footprint*?

Uh, yep.

And remember, the blast was INWARDS, yet falling debris did in act fall outwards. The point is, the structure did NOT collapse, any damage done was caused by explosives, and the buidling itself was still standing afterwards.

You're claiming that since WTC7 had some damage on one side, the ENTIRE BUILDING decided to fall down into its own footprint at free fall speed.

You are afflicted with "magical thinking" in that impossible events are possible, because to view it differently would destroy your inner security and worldview.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   16:27:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: war (#101)

why wouldn't they just take the computers with them?

How many computers do you suppose were in WTC7? I'd hate to hazard a guess.

Even if you did take them along, you would have to transport them and have a place to store them until you could dispose of them.

If you did manage to erase the hard drives on all of them, there are ways to bring back what was on them, as long as the hard drives are not written over with other material. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-03-25   16:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: FormerLurker. WAR (#200)


Ring of power_2_of_16 by Auzarmes

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-03-25   16:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#202)

I'll need to watch the video later, but thanks for posting it.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   17:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: titorite (#167)

aerodynamiclly speaking , do you know what wake vortex is?

I think I do.

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-25   17:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: FormerLurker (#168)

Other than what happened on 9/11, show where in history any other skyscraper has come crashing down due to fire.

First, please show me another building that met the following criteria and did not collapse.

A challenge to conspiracy theorists:

1) Find a steel frame building at least 40 stories high

2) Which takes up a whole city block

3) And is a "Tube in a tube" design

4) Which came off its core columns at the bottom floors (Earthquake, fire, whatever - WTC 7)

5) Which was struck by another building or airliner and had structural damage as a result.

6) And weakened by fire for over 6 hours

7) And had trusses that were bolted on with two 5/8" bolts.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/h i/uk_ne...ereford/worcs/6105942.stm

lucysmom  posted on  2015-03-25   17:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: lucysmom (#205)

And is a "Tube in a tube" design

Are you that uninformed? Bldg. 7 was a steel framed building, buildings 1 and 2 were of the tube design.

Perhaps you should take the time to read up on the facts.

You can't change the laws of physics just because you don't like them, and there's no possible way a structure falls into its footprint at free fall speed without the help of controlled demolition.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-03-25   22:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: FormerLurker (#195)

Are you REALLY that dumb? So you think when the man said the structure could withstand multiple impacts from airliners, he was only talking about the decorative outer sheathing?

Given that was all he mentioned, why would I *assume* that he was discussing anything else? If you'd actually research what the *egg carton* framework was supposed to do when it came to column failure then you wouldn't be exposing yourself by saying so much while knowing so little.

PS: The designers never took in to account fires and damage to the inner core.

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   7:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: BTP Holdings (#201)

How many computers do you suppose were in WTC7?

How many did they need?

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   7:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: FormerLurker (#200) (Edited)

Uh, yep.

Then you need to post a different picture...

But if that's your criteria:

Debris outside of the WTC footprint:

Overview:

Two blocks north of WTC7 on Greenwich:

FROH

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   7:32:00 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: FormerLurker (#200)

You're claiming that since WTC7 had some damage on one side, the ENTIRE BUILDING decided to fall down into its own footprint at free fall speed.

You've been shown that it did not fall at free fall speed.

You've also been shown that it did not have merely *SOME* damage...the entire South Face was compromised...

--Are you a *Jew*?

war  posted on  2015-03-26   7:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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