Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews
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Roths research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.
"Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.
If they thought that there were bombs then why did they not evacuate? NYFD isn't going to pull their men while there are still people in harm's way. Also, part of the CT narrative is that NYFD stayed in the building and ha reached to just below the crash site.
Also note that the ENTIRE face of exterior support columns have have been wiped ou. Also note that construction steel's load bearing ability is reduced @ 620 degrees Fahrenheit and that's before adding on the concrete slabs of the WTC's flooring.
you are hillarious. you dont know thw.sifferwnce between fascisa and supporting columns. and you speak on distrubetive laods like you think you have understanding of it .... tell me what kind of steel was used in the wtc?
a re-enforced tritaniam? b vacumm tempered titatimium? c both? d non of the above.
for extra credit you can explain the mesh theory of the outter support structure and how well it has proven itself in other super skyscrapers?
now go calculate
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awww forget that. lets talk about the physics. lets talk about air traffic control policies and standard procedeures at that time. lets talk about low altitube frictions and areodynamics, lets talk about crash physics, lets talk about aftermath, like how much plane fuel burned on the pentagon lawn or the melted steel excavated from the wtc rubble or that hole in the ground in shanksville.... lets touch on all that.
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WTC7 shows the characteristics of a standard type of controlled demolition where the explosives are placed on structural members of the lower floors to initiate the collapse.
If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?
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it is ok that you would.perfer to debate obvious spelling mistakes instead of the.substance of the.issue. we all understand how little you are working with and your desperate desire to distract from the contextual points in favor false information.
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it is ok that you would perfer (sic) to debate obvious spelling mistakes
I'm not debating anything at this point...I wanted to know WTF you were *talking* about.
Now that you've clarified it, I can respond.
You're wrong.
The outer columns of the WTC, which is what I was actually referring to, was a support system of STEEL lattice. The designers came up with this system because the traditional method of corner columns, in a building that tall, would not be effective against the winds. BTW, *fascia* runs horizontally. The outer *skin* of the WTC was aluminum...I held a piece of it in my hands the morning of 11th September 2001...I never referred to this skin as being part of the support system...if I did or if I implied as much I *misspoke*.
Thus, computer timed detonations had to occur at a precise rate starting from floors immediately below the aress of impact, and sequentially fire downwards to help the upper structure gain velocity at a rate where it'd pick up enough kinetic energy to demolish floors below.
Here's a guy who is a building demolition expert discussing the possibility of explosives used to bring down the twin towers.
If explosives were placed on lower floors, why was the penthouse on top of bldg 7 the first to go?
So you think the penthouse is where the crucial failure occured?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
The ENTIRE building is dropping DOWN in all videos, not just the top of the building.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. Thats not a threat. Thats a promise. LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
Here's a guy who is a building demolition expert discussing the possibility of explosives used to bring down the twin towers.
So what does he say? And who is he, what's his background (ie. work for government, industry, ???)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. Thats not a threat. Thats a promise. LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
.I held a piece of it in my hands the morning of 11th September 2001...
oh yeah? well my cousins ,uncles, brother was there that day too and he held two peices of it in his hand. then it burned his hands clean off and then the police arrested him for tamping with evidence. about five.years later he died of mesotheloma because of all.the asbestos he breathed in being so close to.ground zero....
tell me war, how much asbestos did you breath in and how much longer do you expect to live ? i mean you must be setting records for living with mesotheloma.
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tell me war, how much asbestos did you breath in and how much longer do you expect to live ? i mean you must be setting records for living with mesotheloma.
I was on a Ferryboat @ Whitehall when the first Tower collapsed...could not see my hand in front of my face. No one who was with me that AM is dead. We're all record holders...
I'm in the WTC Health Registry...all my ailments are documented...so far so good tho...
I'm in my late 50's...everything was asbestos when I was a Kid...
Pull the building down? (we know that didn't happen)
No, "we" DON'T "know" that.
I KNOW they "pulled the building down" due to simple logic and physical laws.
That's besides all the means, motive, and opportunity.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. Thats not a threat. Thats a promise. LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
So you think the penthouse is where the crucial failure occured?
That isn't what she said...she - correctly - pointed out that in a controlled demolition the top of the building would not begin to collapse before the bottom of it...
so you are asking everyone here to believe.that you breathed all the abestos and concrete and aresolized steel and every other kind of hazard and that you are still here almost fifteen years later typig and jiving with us like a spry 50 year old.....
yeah..... pull the other one.
i think you have successfully and completely invalidated yourself.
man present at wtc collapse. breaths asbestos. doesnt die from mesothemola or.display and ptsd from the event but continues to wage war on conspiracy theorists online, because.if he doesnt refute their questions about the flaws of the offical story then who will...
i think that about sums it up amirite?
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so you are asking everyone here to believe.that you breathed all the abestos and concrete and aresolized steel and every other kind of hazard and that you are still here almost fifteen years later typig and jiving with us like a spry 50 year old.....
Rudy Guiliani is still alive and he's older than me.
Are you under the impression that EVERY first responder and every person who was there that AM at the time of the collapse is dead?
Do you realize how detached from reality that belief is?
That isn't what she said...she - correctly - pointed out that in a controlled demolition the top of the building would not begin to collapse before the bottom of it...
What if they wanted to ensure that whatever was in that penthouse was thoroughly destroyed? It'd be easy enough to place a few charges directly under it (or inside it). However, the fact remains, it wasn't simply that the roof collapsed, the ENTIRE building dropped straight into its own footprint.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. Thats not a threat. Thats a promise. LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
Are you under the impression that EVERY first responder and every person who was there that AM at the time of the collapse is dead?
Do you realize how detached from reality that belief is?
well i cant be more disconnected than a man that claims to of been there ,breathed it all in ,and held it in his hands who then , for great justice, decided to fight the terrorists by refuting conspiracy theroists on the internet.
for the.record. all.the.dogs.that did the cadaver sniffing in those days, they all.died within.a few years. not from old doggie age.either from complications of.inhaling asbestos....
no matter what your 1960s mentality maybe believe, breathing asbestos really is deteimental to the lungs and will kill a person for doing so.
so you know....
if you aint sick you didnt breath it, you didnt hold it, and you just wanna lie.about it.for.reasons of self satisfaction and self entertainment....
so you have a time with that.
ciao
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well i cant be more disconnected than a man that claims to of been there ,breathed it all in ,and held it in his hands who then , for great justice, decided to fight the terrorists by refuting conspiracy theroists on the internet.
Putting aside the Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc nature of your *conclusion*, there was debris from WTC 2 all over the place...I came out of my building at Cortland Street and just kind of picked it up as a reaction. I remember thinking to myself as I surveyed all of the debris, which included airplane items, that these would make a dandy souvenir...then was repulsed by the idea.,..In don't even remember putting the skin down...I do remember picking it up, tho, which I did almost as soon as I came out of the revolving door...
Frankly, you're talking bullshit here. according to you, thousands upon thousands of people should be dead. IN my case, if not from breathing then from picking up a two foot piece of aluminum...
So what does he say? And who is he, what's his background (ie. work for government, industry, ???)
Watch the video.
As for "who is he"? He and his brother literally wrote the book on controlled demolitions, claiming to have conducted more demolitions than all other companies combined.
well of course not. people that were not there wouldnt get sick. those that did not feel the rumble as the towers fell wouldnt experience the ptsd. those that only fight the terrorists by refuting the conspiracy theorist are doing the will of the great george bush because conspirqcy theorists can never be tolerated. Merica!!!
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well of course not. people that were not there wouldnt get sick.
Can you please link me to anything that reveals that thousands and thousands of people who were in lower Manhattan on 11th September 2001 @ appx 10AM are now suffering from mesothelioma or have died form it.
Thanks in advance...
You never mentioned PTSD...but you may want to consider why I mentioned the WTC Health Registry...
man present at wtc collapse. breaths asbestos. doesnt die from mesothemola or.display and ptsd from the event but continues to wage war on conspiracy theorists online, because.if he doesnt refute their questions about the flaws of the offical story then who will...
It is too early to be looking for instances of mesothemola due to exposure on 911.
"You can't really connect mesothelioma directly yet with 9/11 because of the long lag time that will be involved," Raja Flores, M.D., chief of thoracic surgery at New York's Mount Sinai Hospital, told Asbestos.com. "In 20 years, though, you'll see a bump up (in the numbers). It's common sense. Asbestos causes cancer. We've already been seeing it."
No amount of asbestos exposure is safe. And while the majority of mesothelioma cases in America usually come after lengthy occupational exposure, many experts believe that exposure to such a high concentration of asbestos on 9/11 even for one day will cause some serious, long-range health problems for many who were there.
for the.record. all.the.dogs.that did the cadaver sniffing in those days, they all.died within.a few years. not from old doggie age.either from complications of.inhaling asbestos....
Last living 9/11 Ground Zero search dog returns to World Trade Center site
Bretagne the golden retriever was just 2 years old when she traveled with her handler to New York after the World Trade Center attacks. Today, the 15-year-old pooch is officially retired from rescue duties, but she still works as a service dog in elementary schools, helping special needs students learn to read.
BY MEG WAGNER NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Published: Thursday, September 11, 2014, 11:36 AM