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Title: Methodical Illusion: The 9/11 Con Begins to Crumble — Rebekah Roth (Flight Attendant)
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URL Source: http://sgtreport.com/2015/03/method ... egins-to-crumble-rebekah-roth/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Rebekah Roth
Post Date: 2015-03-23 10:33:47 by christine
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Rebekah Roth has, in my opinion, blown the lid off of the lies surrounding the events on 9/11. Facts which are outlined in her recently released book, Methodical Illusion; a book, as of this writing, that is #1 on the Amazon Best Seller List for its category.--NorthWestLibertyNews Poster Comment: Roth’s research reveals ALL of the 911 cell phone calls from the passengers to their families and friends were actually made on the ground after the 4 planes landed at a remote military airfield and listen to what her research reveals about passenger 9B. This is a must listen. I agree with NorthWestLibertyNews's opinion that Rebekah has blown the lid off the 9/11 lies.
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#383. To: war (#208)
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No idea. But, the NYC Emergency Command Post was in that building. You KNOW they had some computers there. How many other companies? Here is a link to Wikipedia that shows the list of tenants. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Your scenario is simply too ludicrously incredulous to dwell anywhere near the Realm o' Actuality... Your comments illustrate just how short sighted you are, and explain why you can't see any further than your nose in terms of uncovering actual truth. WHO would we have gone to war against IF they had admitted the towers were blown up? Blown up by WHO, and HOW, and WHY? Certainly there'd be an investigation, to think otherwise is ridiculous. Your simple scenario wouldn't have accomplished the attack on the Pentagon, which was worth 2.3 trillion dollars to those involved. An explosion rocked New York City's East Village neighborhood Thursday afternoon and after the blast two buildings were engulfed in flames and and at least a partial building collapse has been reported. You obviously either read the story too quickly, or were hoping I wasn't going to check the facts. It wasn't just on fire, it EXPLODED, yet only PARTIALLY collapsed. So how would that be different than what actually happened?
Do you really need to have me explain it to you? Why don't you think long and hard about it, you might be able to figure it out.
Yeah, actually I do need you to explain it to me.
I doubt that you'll take the time to watch this, but I'm posting it anyway. On January, 28th, 2015, a small private lecture was held in the Los Angeles area that featured author and investigative journalist Christopher Bollyn. The audience members were a supportive group of enlightened individuals and activists who are already familiar with the events of September 11th, 2001 and the aftermath that this deliberate PsyOp has created. Each of the Q & A sessions which are featured after every set of opening comments Bollyn makes (at his various appearances) are extremely unique and informative and give him a chance to offer greater details and historical background about the various "Cast of Conspiracy Characters" involved in the cover up. A video well worth your time. Video by SANCHEZ Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
City of NY has offices in several buildings in that area. City Hall is two blocks away from WTC7 The company that I worked for, despite having empty office space @ 67 Wall, had its disaster recovery in WTC2. Why would the plan to destroy the WTC complex be kept on computers of private companies? Or is NYC part of the conspiracy? Can you give me your best guestimate as to how many people were involved in this conspiracy? Do you know why the *books* in the Mafia have been closed for 11 years? --Are you a *Jew*?
The success of any plot has always been rooted in the dynamic between simplicity and complexity. The more complex the plot, the less likely it will succeed. The hundreds, nearly thousands of people, who had to be involved to pull your 9/11 scenario off, is the easiest falsification of the plot. --Are you a *Jew*?
What's this look like to you? --Are you a *Jew*?
You are ridiculous. Tell me (and others) that you really believe 19 A-Rabs with box cutters boarded commercial aircraft (without a single arab name on the manifests) took over the planes and flew them into the 9-11 targets (the Pentagon being hit an hour and a half after take-off), the buildings in New York being turned into dust and falling into their own footprint - and building 7 falling belatedly at 5:30 PM .. the others in the early morning hours. And what about those dancing Israeli Mossad agents ??? What about Condi Rice's statement that "we never thought the terrorists would use commercial aircraft as missiles when in fact there were around 15 drills taking place to prepare for exactly that scenario ??? Again - get the fuck out ! "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
https://youtu.be/VYNesSmwF7I Start watching around 11:30...pay attention to the Upper left...do you see anything that looks like an explosion? --Are you a *Jew*?
Nope. Don't believe that at all. Their names do appear on the manifests. --Are you a *Jew*?
Do you believe that the government managed to plan and implement the false flag attack on 911, with all planning and coordination that entails, but left out a a little detail like remembering to place the names of the hijackers on passenger lists? The names of the 12 men with Arabic surnames were not on a passenger list made public yesterday by American Airlines and United Air Lines, whose planes were hijacked Tuesday morning. But The Boston Globe obtained the complete list, and law enforcement sources confirmed that they were focusing on up to a dozen of the Arabic men as they piece together how the two Boston flights were hijacked. One of the suspects, Mohamed Atta, 33, is a Saudi national who trained as an airline pilot. The other two, Waleed Alshehri and Marwan Alshehri, are believed to be brothers from the United Arab Emirates, and are also trained to fly heavy commercial aircraft like the ones that were commandeered and flown into the World Trade Center towers in New York. www.911myths.com/index.php/12_Sus pects_Eyed Apparently the lists you refer to were not manifests, but were incomplete lists of victims (some names initially withheld at the request of family members) sans suspects.
A) As has been pointed out, they did not fall in to their own *footprint*... B) Why did the buildings all have to fall at the same time? C) 10AM is hardly early morning... --Are you a *Jew*?
Thank you for posting the video. I watched the first half hour, and actually agree with a lot of what he has to say. I do not believe, however, that 911 was a false flag attack.
Why would the plan to destroy the WTC complex be kept on computers of private companies? Or is NYC part of the conspiracy? I don't know if the city of new york is part of the 911 conspiracy, but an amusing sidenote is that New York City visits my website for years, including multiple times just yesterday. & my site is a 9/11 zionist conspiracy site. They also read my stuff about bill bratton the degenerate freemason regularly, along with NYPD precincts throughout the state. So poster war may not be a so called conspiracy theorist, but all the government establishments he defends apparently are. ;-) "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs? Are you folks that egocentrically myopic that only *yinz* and *yinz* alone can have *beliefs* but no one else can? --Are you a *Jew*?
You can have your own beliefs. The cow jumped over the Moon. The Moon is made of green cheese. You can believe in these things. That doesn't make you a bad person. Stupid maybe.
You are certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, and I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I thought otherwise. I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites. Its deliciously hilarious to me. ;+) And actually, I'm in new york city this weekend. Id invite you to lunch, but I'm here with my wife and. Not meeting political folks, although we have met several people from 4um before. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Agencies don't read conspiracy sites, their employees, who are human, do.
You do realize that there are individuals in these agencies and they may simply be reading from their workstations as individuals? I'm in new york city this weekend. Id invite you to lunch, but I'm here with my wife and. Not meeting political folks, although we have met several people from 4um before. Bundle up, stay dry and have fun... --Are you a *Jew*?
Most of our beliefs are based upon information that may not be accurate. As a matter of fact many times we are lied to. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
If you bothered to check the list of tenants that I posted, you would see that a majority of the floors were occupied by Salomon Smith Barney, a stock broker. Their computers had information that would show how certain individuals profited by shorting the airline stocks of the companies that owned the planes that hit the Twin Towers. This, of course, is patently unlawful. And, I might add, a felony. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
LOL "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
war: Different construction... 100's of commercial planes took off today...none of them crashed... Non Sequitur about the planes. war: Looks like it's made mostly of concrete...where's the steel? Oh...that collapsed 2 hours in...never mind... But...but...wouldn't it have violated the Post-9/11 Laws of Physics if concrete didn't turn into pixie dust there and float off? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So the frig what? Stop trying to deflect away from the question. --Are you a *Jew*?
Again...so the frig what? --Are you a *Jew*?
That was the point of that response...I responded to a non-sequitur with a non-sequitur... But...but...wouldn't it have violated the Post-9/11 Laws of Physics if concrete didn't turn into pixie dust there and float off? Huh? --Are you a *Jew*?
What I believe is that it would have been to their advantage for the names to have been released to the public. They tried to tell us what seats they were in before the alleged hijacking. Apparently the lists you refer to were not manifests, but were incomplete lists of victims (some names initially withheld at the request of family members) sans suspects. My sister sent me the passenger lists printed in the Indianapolis, Star Newspaper. There were so many anomalies that it really doesn't make logical sense to worry about one or two elements. What takes a whole lot of faith to believe is that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters were able to defeat the most elaborate defenses, the most expensive intelligence, in the most highly defended place (NYC and at the Pentagon) on earth. Now that takes a monumental leap of faith in my estimation. And, later it became public that while all of America had been grounded (no air flights) 100 or more Bin Ladens were flown out of the country. I don't usually get into this subject but jet fuel is basically kerosene and it isn't capable of reaching temperatures necessary to melt steel and even if it would have on that very special day that still doesn't account for the pulverized concrete that was as fine as baby powder. Many witnesses described explosions. I think the buildings were pre-loaded with bombs of some sort. The whodunnit exactly will probably never be known, but my money wouldn't be on 19 Arabs unless they were acting as contract agents for the CIA or MOSSAD. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
Huh? What takes a whole lot of faith to believe is that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters were able to defeat the most elaborate defenses... Cave dwellers? The only persons whom I see buying in to *myths* are you CTs... --Are you a *Jew*?
Steel wasn't melted...and the *kerosene* was an accelerant to everything around it that could burn... --Are you a *Jew*?
Kerosene (jet fuel) was spent within the first several minutes; paper, wood, and assorted office furniture doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel. Bzzzt, sorry you lose, try again. That statement stands at strong odds with anything remotely associated to reality let alone science. --Are you a *Jew*?
Describe in detail how ANY part of what I wrote is inaccurate, rather than using the standard disinfo BS. No, slim...you made the BS statement...now would be the time to back it up...and the *small* office fires nonsense isn't going to cut it...you had floors fully engulfed in flames...people don't jump from 100 story buldings because a couple of chairs are on fire... --Are you a *Jew*?
Ok slick, I'll try to educate you; A) Because there's smoke and flames doesn't mean you have temperatures reaching anything close to that necessary to weaken steel. B) The fires were practically out prior to the collapse of both towers. One indication of such is that they were spewing BLACK smoke at that time, indicating a very low intensity smouldering fire which was starved of oxygen. C) There were people who survived who were ON the impacted floors, and those you see in the windows were unfortunate enough to be on the wrong side of the fire where they couldn't make it to the stairs. So do you get a bonus if you spin enough lies in a day's time? BTW slickster, I never said they were SMALL. I said they were OFFICE FIRES, ie. they were not chemical fires which might have reached temperatures needed to weaken steel. There was an OFFICE FIRE in one of the towers which lasted for HOURS, yet temperatures were not hot enough to weaken the steel holding the building together. What does thick black, sooty smoke mean? The fires were practically out prior to the collapse of both towers. One indication of such is that they were spewing BLACK smoke at that time, indicating a very low intensity smouldering fire which was starved of oxygen. Everything that you stated is BS. The fires were in no way nearly out. THICK black smoke is an indication of a fire that is both widespread and has plenty of fuel. There were people who survived who were ON the impacted floors, and those you see in the windows were unfortunate enough to be on the wrong side of the fire where they couldn't make it to the stairs What stairs? The stairs were gone on the *impacted* floors. --Are you a *Jew*?
The fires were in no way nearly out. THICK black smoke is an indication of a fire that is both widespread and has plenty of fuel. As far as the color of the smoke, it can mean many things, but it's not a reliable indicator of anything these days since synthetic materials produce black smoke when they burn. As far as evidence of the fires being almost out, apparently YouTube has deleted a live interview on 9/11 with a Fox reporter and a fire official who stated the fires were almost out at the South Tower. So when you have the power to erase evidence, I suppose any story you want to tell contrary to truth is believable. As far as your claim the "stairs" were "gone", people survived on floors ABOVE the impact area and escaped from the South Tower. From Wikipedia While Praimnath screamed for someone to come help him, Euro Brokers executive Brian Clark from the 84th floor and a group of his coworkers were debating in the stairwell whether to descend through the impact zone using the stairwell, which they had been told was impassable, or to climb to the roof. While Clark listened to his coworkers debating this, his attention shifted when he could hear Praimnath's faint screams for help. Clark made his way to Praimnath by using his flashlight and by following Praimnath's voice. As Clark was on his way to find Praimnath, he quickly turned back towards his coworkers and saw they had decided to climb up the stairs instead of going down. (Consequently, all of Clark's coworkers were killed.) Once Clark had found Praimnath, he could see there was a wall between them that managed to stay in place after impact. Clark instructed Praimnath that Praimnath's only option was to jump up and climb over the wall, which Praimnath didn't think he was able to do. On Praimnath's first attempt, he didn't make it and instead hit a piece of wood with a nail sticking out of it, piercing his hand in the process. Praimnath tried a couple more times to jump up and finally Clark, on the other side of the wall, was able to get his hands around Praimnath and help him get over the wall. The two men made their way to the stairwell, which Clark had already been told was blocked further down. However, Clark and Praimnath wanted to see for themselves if the stairs were really impassable. They descended down the stairs, and while there was debris in some spots, the two men were able to get through it and continue down the stairs and out of the building. (They were two of only fourteen survivors from above the impact zone to survive the day from the South Tower.)
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#384. To: war (#382)
I doubt it...the shock would have been greater and the clamor for war would have been more so...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#385. To: war (#376)
A building in NYC just collapsed...after being on fire for an hour...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#386. To: FormerLurker (#384)
WHO would we have gone to war against IF they had admitted the towers were blown up? Blown up by WHO, and HOW, and WHY?
#387. To: lucysmom (#386)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#388. To: FormerLurker (#387)
Do you really need to have me explain it to you? Why don't you think long and hard about it, you might be able to figure it out.
#389. To: lucysmom (#373)
The problem with your version is the complexity. The number of people who would need to be involved, the time it would take to set up, and then bring off without a hitch.
#390. To: BTP Holdings (#383)
#391. To: FormerLurker (#384)
Your comments illustrate just how short sighted you are...
#392. To: FormerLurker (#385)
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It wasn't just on fire, it EXPLODED...
#393. To: war (#391)
The hundreds, nearly thousands of people, who had to be involved to pull your 9/11 scenario off, is the easiest falsification of the plot.
#394. To: FormerLurker (#387)
#395. To: noone222 (#393)
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Tell me (and others) that you really believe 19 A-Rabs with box cutters boarded commercial aircraft (without a single arab name on the manifests)
#396. To: noone222 (#393)
You are ridiculous. Tell me (and others) that you really believe 19 A-Rabs with box cutters boarded commercial aircraft (without a single arab name on the manifests) took over the planes and flew them into the 9-11 targets (the Pentagon being hit an hour and a half after take-off), the buildings in New York being turned into dust and falling into their own footprint - and building 7 falling belatedly at 5:30 PM .. the others in the early morning hours.
#397. To: noone222 (#393)
...the buildings in New York being turned into dust and falling into their own footprint - and building 7 falling belatedly at 5:30 PM .. the others in the early morning hours.
#398. To: christine (#389)
#399. To: war, btp holdings, lod, jethro tull, christine, katniss, *9-11* (#390)
City of NY has offices in several buildings in that area. City Hall is two blocks away from WTC7 The company that I worked for, despite having empty office space @ 67 Wall, had its disaster recovery in WTC2.
#400. To: Artisan (#399)
So poster war may not be a so called conspiracy theorist, but all the government establishments he defends apparently are. ;-)
#401. To: war (#400)
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs?
#402. To: war (#400)
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs?
#403. To: Artisan (#402)
I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites. Its deliciously hilarious to me. ;+)
#404. To: Artisan (#402)
I just said I think its hilarious that all these government agencies read conspiracy sites.
#405. To: war (#400)
Why is it that I can't just have my own beliefs?
#406. To: war (#390)
Why would the plan to destroy the WTC complex be kept on computers of private companies? Or is NYC part of the conspiracy?
#407. To: Artisan (#399)
So poster war may not be a so called conspiracy theorist, but all the government establishments he defends apparently are.
#408. To: war, FormerLurker (#230)
FormerLurker: This fire in Madrid burnt for approximately 24 hours, yet the building did not collapse.
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#409. To: BTP Holdings (#406)
If you bothered to check the list of tenants that I posted, you would see that a majority of the floors were occupied by Salomon Smith Barney, a stock broker.
#410. To: BTP Holdings (#406)
Their computers had information that would show how certain individuals profited by shorting the airline stocks of the companies that owned the planes that hit the Twin Towers.
#411. To: GreyLmist (#408)
Non Sequitur about the planes.
#412. To: lucysmom (#396)
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Do you believe that the government managed to plan and implement the false flag attack on 911, with all planning and coordination that entails, but left out a a little detail like remembering to place the names of the hijackers on passenger lists?
#413. To: noone222 (#412)
They tried to tell us what seats they were in before the alleged hijacking.
#414. To: noone222 (#412)
I don't usually get into this subject but jet fuel is basically kerosene and it isn't capable of reaching temperatures necessary to melt steel
#415. To: war, noone222 (#414)
Steel wasn't melted...and the *kerosene* was an accelerant to everything around it that could burn...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#416. To: FormerLurker (#415)
Kerosene (jet fuel) was spent within the first several minutes; paper, wood, and assorted office furniture doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel.
#417. To: war (#416)
That statement stands at strong odds with anything remotely associated to reality let alone science.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#418. To: FormerLurker (#417)
Describe in detail how ANY part of what I wrote is inaccurate, rather than using the standard disinfo BS.
#419. To: war (#418)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#420. To: war (#418)
and the *small* office fires nonsense isn't going to cut it
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#421. To: FormerLurker (#419)
Because there's smoke and flames doesn't mean you have temperatures reaching anything close to that necessary to weaken steel.
#422. To: war (#421)
Everything that you stated is BS.
When American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower, Praimnath started to evacuate from his 81st floor office in the South Tower, but he returned when the building's security guards said the South Tower was secure, and workers should return to their offices. He did not realize, at that point, that a plane had struck the North Tower. Soon after reentering his office, he saw United Airlines Flight 175 heading directly towards him. Right before impact, he dove under his desk and exclaimed, "Lord, I can't do this! You take over!" The left wing sliced through his office and became lodged in a door twenty feet from him. [1] Praimnath was bruised and covered in debris after the crash which left him stuck and unable to escape on his own.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
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