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Religion See other Religion Articles Title: Christians ‘Must Be Made’ to Bow This column by Frank Bruni in The New York Times is lighting up a lot of us this morning, judging by my e-mail. It captures the spirit animating the LGBT movement and its allies. That the most powerful newspaper in America would feel comfortable publishing this is a signal. This is not a war we have chosen, but make no mistake, it is a war. Here are the relevant excerpts: And homosexuality and Christianity don’t have to be in conflict in any church anywhere. That many Christians regard them as incompatible is understandable, an example not so much of hatred’s pull as of tradition’s sway. Beliefs ossified over centuries aren’t easily shaken. But in the end, the continued view of gays, lesbians and bisexuals as sinners is a decision. It’s a choice. It prioritizes scattered passages of ancient texts over all that has been learned since — as if time had stood still, as if the advances of science and knowledge meant nothing. It disregards the degree to which all writings reflect the biases and blind spots of their authors, cultures and eras. Got that? Today, we have special access to the truth that St. Paul, the authors of the Bible, the Fathers of the Church, and virtually every Christian in history until around 1970 in the West believed to be true. And not only do we know they were wrong, we have the duty to make those who still believe in clear Scriptural teaching and the reliability of authoritative Tradition repent of their heresy. Bruni enlists liberal Evangelical professor David Gushee in his crusade: “Conservative Christian religion is the last bulwark against full acceptance of L.G.B.T. people.” So, having defined the enemy, the one thing standing between them and cultural hegemony, what do they propose to do? This (emphasis mine): Creech and Mitchell Gold, a prominent furniture maker and gay philanthropist, founded an advocacy group, Faith in America, which aims to mitigate the damage done to L.G.B.T. people by what it calls “religion-based bigotry.” Gold told me that church leaders must be made “to take homosexuality off the sin list.” His commandment is worthy — and warranted. Not “must be persuaded,” but “must be made.” Compelled. Forced. And not forced to change our behavior, but forced to change what we believe. Because You Must Approve. And just how do Bruni and his militant Social Justice Warriors plan to force us to repudiate our beliefs? We are going to find out. Indiana and Arkansas showed that most Americans don’t much care about religious liberty — and in fact, people like Bruni and the newspaper he works for have contempt for it, at least when it is practiced by “conservative Christians.” And not just The New York Times, but newspapers like The Forum, in, get this, Fargo, North Dakota, published a front page running the photographs of every member of the state legislature who voted against an LGBT equality bill. Of course I have no problem with a newspaper, or anybody, criticizing, and criticizing strongly, those who vote the way they don’t like. But the imagery and the format here is that of a witch hunt designed to hold Enemies Of The People up to public contempt. Can you imagine the outcry if Ross Douthat, an orthodox Catholic colleague of Bruni’s, writing a piece endorsing as “worthy — and warranted” the idea that pro- LGBT Christians and others “must be made to put homosexuality back on the sin list”? I’m a conservative Christian who believes the traditional teaching, and I would find such a coercive statement appalling. But of course nobody on that side seems to have the slightest doubt about their cause, their motives, or their methods. None. In a holy war, there is no room for doubt. Can you imagine the outcry if the Times published a column saying that Jews or Muslims must be “made” to quit believing a tenet of their religion? If socialists must be “made” to disavow any of their political convictions? But not when the target is conservative Christians who persist in their heresy. Bruni’s words are not a tossed-off phrase that appear in a minor media outlet. The Times edits these columns closely. The Times is representative of elite cultural opinion. These words, appearing on that platform, matter. So do the endorsements of prominent Christian leaders like David Gushee. I was thinking that maybe Gushee didn’t realize that his comments would be put into service of so shocking a column. I checked his Twitter feed, looking for a clarification or something like it from him. Here’s Gushee’s verdict on the Bruni column: Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Ada (#0)
Liberalism = slavery. For ALL concerned including liberals.
As usual, the people supporting and fostering their enslavement the most are completely clueless. Teachers, government workers, MIC/EIC/PIC/etc. workers, military, etc., who propagandize our/their own children, contribute to the forging of the very weapons to be used against them, etc. This is what happens when an economy revolves around massive companies instead of small and medium sized privately owned ones. We're so lost as a nation from a moral perspective that it's not even possible to dig ourselves out without some sort of intervention from some kind of apocalyptic occurrence. Even the churches are at fault, and particularly their leaders. I don't see anywhere in Scripture the modern model for a church, much less one that must be "registered" via the 501(c) structure. If these churches were not beholden to the very beast that they complain about, then those affiliated with them could believe what they want. Otherwise: Jesus: My kingdom is not of this world. The true church isn't supposed to change the world, which is not possible. The true church is to serve as a haven for those truly seeking truth and the Living God.
You've just traced the exact nature of the problem -- government and other institutions have been Jewed. Directly in proportion to its size, look at any institution and note the extent of its subversion/toxicity. I even see this in attempting to infiltrate individual churches with politically incorrect truth. The bigger a congregation the more immune it is to it. You can spread it in small ones and gain the occasional convert. Big ones are doggedly neutral/brainless/liberal. Even the occasional Rush Windbag fan or National Review reader in 'em won't respond to your "right wing hate literature" -- they know it's not in the script there and that their significant other wouldn't like it one bit. Of course crowds and other aggregations of people are basically feminine in nature, guided by heart generally instead of head as I think somebody was just commenting here recently. I've known women who smashed that mold to pieces, but the pattern still holds.
What's hysterical is that many establishment so-called christians integrate cultural values, Judeo-Christian, but how many times does their enormous lobbies side with what these quasi-christians seem to think are their moral partners? It's rare if ever. Such as now for example.
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