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Title: Why I Stand With Israel
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/pascale ... 07/18/why-i-stand-with-israel/
Published: Apr 6, 2015
Author: Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry
Post Date: 2015-04-06 18:43:29 by Abraham
Keywords: None
Views: 1122
Comments: 59

A great many of us pride ourselves on the subtlety of our minds, and on recognizing the complexities, both moral and practical, of the world, and this is a very good impulse.

But when this impulse is raised to the level of dogma, it risks obscuring more than it clarifies. There are some occasions–yes, few, but some–when the moral calculus is exceedingly simple.

I used to have a great personal interest in the policy detail of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I could lecture at length on the subtleties of Camp David, Taba, the Road Map; on the different kinds of settlements; on the security barrier, its precise shape and contours; on the various UN resolutions; on the history of Fatah and Hamas. By now, like Lord Palmerston and the Schleswig-Holstein Question, I have forgotten most of the details.

What I have not forgotten is the following: the State of Israel is a democracy with the rule of law and respect for human rights (yes, imperfect, unlike the United States and Europe, which, as we all know, are perfect); demonic hatred of Jews is a real and persistent fact of history and when left unchecked it always leads to atrocities; this demonic hatred is absolutely clearly distilled into the enemies of Israel; and most, most importantly this: if tomorrow Hamas, Hizbullah and other enemies of Israel dropped their weapons, peace would break out; if tomorrow Israel dropped its weapons, a genocide would break out.

There is, there can be, no moral equivalency. Sometimes there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys.

That the Palestinians are weak and poor while Israel is comparatively strong and rich changes nothing. That Israel is often unwise and, yes, occasionally criminal, changes nothing.

To take a purposefully provocative analogy: yes, during World War II, the Allies (even excepting the Soviet Union) committed war crimes. The strategic bombing of Germany and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagazaki were war crimes. Elizabeth Anscombe was right to denounce Truman. It nonetheless remains true that if you lived through World War II and pretexted of Allied crimes to portray the sides as morally equivalent, or to refuse to take sides, you were guilty of moral cretinism and cowardice.

This is a conflict where there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys and to pretend otherwise is indefensible. The chief culprit of the plight of the Palestinians is not Israel but the terrorists and fanatics who use them as tools of their ravenous bloodlust.

Golda Meir was right then, and is right now. The conflict will end when the enemies of Israel start loving their children more than they hate Israel.

Yes, it really is that simple.

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#4. To: Abraham (#0)

Heil Israel!

PnbC  posted on  2015-04-06   21:03:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PnbC (#4)

Why do you hate all Jewish people for absolutely no reason other than sheer ignorance and possibly a trailer court upbringing where reading was forbidden? Fight the hate, boyo!

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-06   21:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#5)

Why do you hate all Jewish people for absolutely no reason other than sheer ignorance and possibly a trailer court upbringing where reading was forbidden? Fight the hate, boyo!

The Zionist Jews are universally hated because you steal and murder – you are no different than every other evil human.

It is you little Jews who are the stupid ones, because the hell that should befall the big Jews like Bibi Barabbas, will fall on you – it always does – stupid you stupid you stupid YOU!

johnj  posted on  2015-04-06   22:14:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: johnj (#10)

you and abraham both have anger issues

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-06   22:18:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#11)

you and abraham both have anger issues

There is something wrong with people who are not angry at Zionist Jewry - just look at what they have done to the ME and America.

johnj  posted on  2015-04-06   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: johnj (#14)

There is something wrong with people who are not angry at Zionist Jewry - just look at what they have done to the ME and America

Lashing out in all directions has never worked.

Dakmar  posted on  2015-04-06   22:39:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: Dakmar (#16)

Lashing out in all directions? Where has he done any lashing at all? Anybody who speaks rightist truth above talking-head volume is accused of losing it.

What has johnj said you consider wrong, Dakmar? "There is something wrong with people who are not angry at Zionist Jewry - just look at what they have done to the ME and America" -- truer words were never spoken. While we're quoting the Bible, it does say to be angry when merited and to hate evil. There's no true love without hate toward anything that would harm the thing or person loved.

Maybe this page has been filled sufficiently, gang. To get into an argument over Bubby would only make his day..... one of the oldest Jew tricks in the book. Nay, THE oldest!

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