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Title: Why I Stand With Israel
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/pascale ... 07/18/why-i-stand-with-israel/
Published: Apr 6, 2015
Author: Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry
Post Date: 2015-04-06 18:43:29 by Abraham
Keywords: None
Views: 1117
Comments: 59

A great many of us pride ourselves on the subtlety of our minds, and on recognizing the complexities, both moral and practical, of the world, and this is a very good impulse.

But when this impulse is raised to the level of dogma, it risks obscuring more than it clarifies. There are some occasions–yes, few, but some–when the moral calculus is exceedingly simple.

I used to have a great personal interest in the policy detail of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I could lecture at length on the subtleties of Camp David, Taba, the Road Map; on the different kinds of settlements; on the security barrier, its precise shape and contours; on the various UN resolutions; on the history of Fatah and Hamas. By now, like Lord Palmerston and the Schleswig-Holstein Question, I have forgotten most of the details.

What I have not forgotten is the following: the State of Israel is a democracy with the rule of law and respect for human rights (yes, imperfect, unlike the United States and Europe, which, as we all know, are perfect); demonic hatred of Jews is a real and persistent fact of history and when left unchecked it always leads to atrocities; this demonic hatred is absolutely clearly distilled into the enemies of Israel; and most, most importantly this: if tomorrow Hamas, Hizbullah and other enemies of Israel dropped their weapons, peace would break out; if tomorrow Israel dropped its weapons, a genocide would break out.

There is, there can be, no moral equivalency. Sometimes there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys.

That the Palestinians are weak and poor while Israel is comparatively strong and rich changes nothing. That Israel is often unwise and, yes, occasionally criminal, changes nothing.

To take a purposefully provocative analogy: yes, during World War II, the Allies (even excepting the Soviet Union) committed war crimes. The strategic bombing of Germany and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagazaki were war crimes. Elizabeth Anscombe was right to denounce Truman. It nonetheless remains true that if you lived through World War II and pretexted of Allied crimes to portray the sides as morally equivalent, or to refuse to take sides, you were guilty of moral cretinism and cowardice.

This is a conflict where there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys and to pretend otherwise is indefensible. The chief culprit of the plight of the Palestinians is not Israel but the terrorists and fanatics who use them as tools of their ravenous bloodlust.

Golda Meir was right then, and is right now. The conflict will end when the enemies of Israel start loving their children more than they hate Israel.

Yes, it really is that simple.

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#8. To: Abraham (#0) (Edited)

I stand for Israel and have been paying close attention to President Obama's talks with Iran re an armistice on nuclear bombs and for inspections to be enforced on Iran following this treaty because we all know that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of this earth. Any nations and peoples who join in with Iran to wipe Israel off may as well be followers of the antichrist. This was long predicted in biblical scripture. It is true that Israel has a history of pagan worship and enraging God but Israel was long chosen by God as His people to set an example for the rest of the world to follow according to God's commandments and His elected feasts. This goes all the way back to Exodus where Moses led the Jews out of Egypt to escape their bondage from the Egyptian Pharoahs. Not all the Jews are righteous people but their biblical customs were set in stone by God for the rest of the world to observe. They even conspired to kill their own King of the Jews (Jesus Christ). Since this has all passed, the Roman Church took over when they conquered Israel and changed the Jewish feasts and observances by converting into a Gregorian Calendar rather than abiding by the Jewish calender. The difference between the two calendars is that the Jewish calendar focuses on the lunar months whereas the Gregorian calendar is one that most of Europe and the United States recognize as the calendar focused on the solar months. Even the biblical feasts dates are way off from that of the Jewish calendar. This was introduced to the people to change the Jewish feasts days to confuse the people but its true intended purpose was to mock and persecute those who still abide by the Jewish calendar and God's commandments re those feasts dates which He ordained as holy.

The true haters of the Jewish feasts and people are those who desire to wipe these people and God's laws off the face of this Earth. We are seeing this happen and when we see this happen, we know we are the last generation living in the last days on Earth.

purplerose  posted on  2015-04-06   21:49:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: purplerose (#8) (Edited)

I stand for Israel

I often agree with you on issues and was surprised to read that you support the modern State of Israel, a notorious fraud made possible through the so-called Balfour Proclamation (which was actually the result of a letter from Lord Rothschild of the infamous demonic banking family requesting Britain's support for a Jewish State LONG BEFORE HITLER and WW II ) later being implemented through a mandate of the GODLESS UN.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration] The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.[1][2]

The text of the letter was published in the press one week later, on 9 November 1917.[3] The "Balfour Declaration" was later incorporated into the Sèvres peace treaty with the Ottoman Empire and the Mandate for Palestine. The original document is kept at the British Library.

Many amongst us Americans have been trained to accept this fraud since childhood. I was raised Catholic and taught that Jews were the "chosen" people. Your post mentions Moses leading the Jews out from Egypt. Moses was a Hebrew and so were those he led out of Egypt, NOT JEWS.

Most people that read the Bible overlook the fact that there are no synagogues mentioned in the Old Testament. The Hebrew people of the Old Testament did not worship or even attend a thing called a Synagogue. (There is a single mistranslated mention in Psalms). Synagogues come into view only after the return from BABYLON of some captives. (It's relevant to note here that the BABYLONIAN TALMUD is the primary religious guide of today's "Jews".

Today's Rabbis claim to have descended in an unbroken lineage from the pharisees. Jesus said of these pharisees "your laws make my Father's Laws of NO EFFECT" ! (Jesus also said they were of "their father" the devil. [John 8:38-47)

One that studies the Jewish Encyclopedia will discover that 90% of the Jews on planet earth are the descendants of khazarian converts to Judaism otherwise know as Ashkenazi Jews (German Jews) that have no more connection to the land called Israel than the average Catholic has to Rome. What I'm saying is that the claim of a RIGHT OF RETURN doesn't apply to these people because they NEVER inhabited Israel.

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

I'll conclude with this admission. I too, believed all of the lies regarding Jews and their right of return to the State of Israel for most of my life. I became so curious about it that I spent hundreds of hours in the San Diego main Library studying everything related to Jews. It became obvious that the people of the world have been and are being deceived.

noone222  posted on  2015-04-07   8:19:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: noone222 (#25)

Most church-attending Americans of our generation were taught the same clap-trap, Scofield-influenced, hooey.

It's past time for us to acknowledge the deception, recant the lies, and come to grip with reality and truth.

Lod  posted on  2015-04-07   8:41:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Lod (#26)

It's past time for us to acknowledge the deception, recant the lies, and come to grip with reality and truth.

Agreed. I don't like to get into the argumentative state because most people that argue in favor of the State of Israel haven't done any research to support their argument.

noone222  posted on  2015-04-07   9:14:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: noone222 (#28)

Yep, engaging in mental duels with unarmed opponents is beyond pointless.

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