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Title: Why I Stand With Israel
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URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/pascale ... 07/18/why-i-stand-with-israel/
Published: Apr 6, 2015
Author: Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry
Post Date: 2015-04-06 18:43:29 by Abraham
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A great many of us pride ourselves on the subtlety of our minds, and on recognizing the complexities, both moral and practical, of the world, and this is a very good impulse. But when this impulse is raised to the level of dogma, it risks obscuring more than it clarifies. There are some occasions–yes, few, but some–when the moral calculus is exceedingly simple. I used to have a great personal interest in the policy detail of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I could lecture at length on the subtleties of Camp David, Taba, the Road Map; on the different kinds of settlements; on the security barrier, its precise shape and contours; on the various UN resolutions; on the history of Fatah and Hamas. By now, like Lord Palmerston and the Schleswig-Holstein Question, I have forgotten most of the details. What I have not forgotten is the following: the State of Israel is a democracy with the rule of law and respect for human rights (yes, imperfect, unlike the United States and Europe, which, as we all know, are perfect); demonic hatred of Jews is a real and persistent fact of history and when left unchecked it always leads to atrocities; this demonic hatred is absolutely clearly distilled into the enemies of Israel; and most, most importantly this: if tomorrow Hamas, Hizbullah and other enemies of Israel dropped their weapons, peace would break out; if tomorrow Israel dropped its weapons, a genocide would break out. There is, there can be, no moral equivalency. Sometimes there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys. That the Palestinians are weak and poor while Israel is comparatively strong and rich changes nothing. That Israel is often unwise and, yes, occasionally criminal, changes nothing. To take a purposefully provocative analogy: yes, during World War II, the Allies (even excepting the Soviet Union) committed war crimes. The strategic bombing of Germany and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagazaki were war crimes. Elizabeth Anscombe was right to denounce Truman. It nonetheless remains true that if you lived through World War II and pretexted of Allied crimes to portray the sides as morally equivalent, or to refuse to take sides, you were guilty of moral cretinism and cowardice. This is a conflict where there really are Good Guys and Bad Guys and to pretend otherwise is indefensible. The chief culprit of the plight of the Palestinians is not Israel but the terrorists and fanatics who use them as tools of their ravenous bloodlust. Golda Meir was right then, and is right now. The conflict will end when the enemies of Israel start loving their children more than they hate Israel. Yes, it really is that simple.
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#18. To: Dakmar (#15)
Sorry Dak, I should have guessed. Discussions have gotten so intense lately and at least a couple of posters who I won't name have on other issues revealed themselves lately as part of the mindset of another foreign policy problem. And it is not related to Israel or Jews. Plus I'm texting on the bus after a particularly grueling work day. So again, excuse me for not getting the joke. Hadn't seen your posts of late either. John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re....cgi?ArtNum=175797&Disp=0
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
You don't yet know that Dak is a jokester but he gets it about Zionism.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
so is what you are really saying is that you DONT stand with the USA?
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
I believe you are correct about ol' Abe, Neil. I'm getting weary and leery of One Note Abey's number of pro Israel posts. Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
Since he's only here to propagandize and add the occasional "good" link for window dressing, Christine, you have the right to dump him. Jew sites aren't famous for allowing our kind free rein (or reign as many of our folk would accidentally put it :-).
Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews: Economic — "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power." Chosen People — "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people." Scapegoat — "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles." Deicide — "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus." Outsiders, — "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.) Racial Theory — "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race." As we examine the explanations, we must ask — Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions: Economic — The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated. Chosen People — a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them. Scapegoat — Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society." Deicide — a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism. Outsiders — With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes." Racial Theory — The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew – and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another. Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race – but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness – and, when we do assimilate – for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.
I often agree with you on issues and was surprised to read that you support the modern State of Israel, a notorious fraud made possible through the so-called Balfour Proclamation (which was actually the result of a letter from Lord Rothschild of the infamous demonic banking family requesting Britain's support for a Jewish State LONG BEFORE HITLER and WW II ) later being implemented through a mandate of the GODLESS UN. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration] The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.[1][2] The text of the letter was published in the press one week later, on 9 November 1917.[3] The "Balfour Declaration" was later incorporated into the Sèvres peace treaty with the Ottoman Empire and the Mandate for Palestine. The original document is kept at the British Library. Many amongst us Americans have been trained to accept this fraud since childhood. I was raised Catholic and taught that Jews were the "chosen" people. Your post mentions Moses leading the Jews out from Egypt. Moses was a Hebrew and so were those he led out of Egypt, NOT JEWS. Most people that read the Bible overlook the fact that there are no synagogues mentioned in the Old Testament. The Hebrew people of the Old Testament did not worship or even attend a thing called a Synagogue. (There is a single mistranslated mention in Psalms). Synagogues come into view only after the return from BABYLON of some captives. (It's relevant to note here that the BABYLONIAN TALMUD is the primary religious guide of today's "Jews". Today's Rabbis claim to have descended in an unbroken lineage from the pharisees. Jesus said of these pharisees "your laws make my Father's Laws of NO EFFECT" ! (Jesus also said they were of "their father" the devil. [John 8:38-47) One that studies the Jewish Encyclopedia will discover that 90% of the Jews on planet earth are the descendants of khazarian converts to Judaism otherwise know as Ashkenazi Jews (German Jews) that have no more connection to the land called Israel than the average Catholic has to Rome. What I'm saying is that the claim of a RIGHT OF RETURN doesn't apply to these people because they NEVER inhabited Israel. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? I'll conclude with this admission. I too, believed all of the lies regarding Jews and their right of return to the State of Israel for most of my life. I became so curious about it that I spent hundreds of hours in the San Diego main Library studying everything related to Jews. It became obvious that the people of the world have been and are being deceived. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
Most church-attending Americans of our generation were taught the same clap-trap, Scofield-influenced, hooey. It's past time for us to acknowledge the deception, recant the lies, and come to grip with reality and truth. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Actually, it's that antisemite gene that all Caucasions carry. We're liable to go off and get the gas chambers and crematoria cranked up again at the drop of a hat. That's why you work so diligently to eliminate us.... "The government ruling us draws its authority not from the principles of the Declaration of Independence, or even from the delegate powers listed in the U.S. Constitution, but rather from the war to re-conquer the independent South. That conflict, usually referred to by the artfully misleading title “Civil War,” established the fact that the government in Washington is willing to kill Americans in whatever quantity it deems necessary in order to enforce its edicts, and then sanctify the slaughter in the name of some suitably “progressive” social objective.
Agreed. I don't like to get into the argumentative state because most people that argue in favor of the State of Israel haven't done any research to support their argument. "We're all on death row, only the execution date is uncertain". Doug Scheidt 2015
Yep, engaging in mental duels with unarmed opponents is beyond pointless.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Today's Rabbis claim to have descended in an unbroken lineage from the pharisees. Jesus said of these pharisees "your laws make my Father's Laws of NO EFFECT" ! (Jesus also said they were of "their father" the devil. [John 8:38-47) Absolutely correct. Jesus would never look to the Talmud as the appropriate guide for His people. In fact, He viewed the Talmud as an abomination and the works of the devil. Furthermore, Jesus did say that the only Father you shall honor is the Heavenly Father and never address anybody else as your Father, Rabbi, Pastor, Priest, for their laws are the laws of man and are truly inferior to the Heavenly Fathers laws.
That is your truth and that is what you believe. There are millions of those who share your point of view.
Note to self: Don't move in to a neighborhood, change the name of the street and expect everyone who already lives there to go along with it... --Are you a *Jew*?
If foreign policy ends at the water's edge then why are we so hung up on something in the middle of the *ocean*?
--Are you a *Jew*?
Are you for real? That is pure bullshit from an Israeli MIS-translation of the former President of Iran. His words were more like "the Zionist regime should disappear from the pages of time". Iran has NEVER in modern times attacked another nation, nor do they have any intent on doing so. Israel wants Iran's oil, and they wish to neuter ANY country in the Middle East which poses any sort of resistance to their monopoly of power there, other than those countries who are already subjugated to US/Israeli control, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia. I can't believe one who has been on this forum for so long doesn't already know that. Jews are loathed because their inferior psychological makeup brings hate to them. Their tribal psychology will not let them join the human race as individual people. Jews see themselves as collective tribal members working against the world. They view themselves as separate and superior to the rest of humanity. This psychological makeup necessitates that they see the world as against them. They self-servingly see themselves as victims. As a result, the Jewish people are in a perpetual state of paranoia. This sick victimization paranoia allows them to do all manner of wrong to their fellow humans. Just look at Israel and its diabolical treatment of the Palestinian people. Jews suffer from a superiority complex. They believe that because they are intellectually superior that they can fool and con other peoples without consequences. They believe that through well calculate lies, they can perpetually move the goal posts staying out of the consequences of their wrong doing to their fellow humans. Jesus said "that the truth will set you free." The Jew psyche will never be free – it is doomed to self-fulfilling repetitive failure. So yes, it is 100% true that the “Jews bring hate onto themselves.” Our little dishonest inferior Abe is a perfect example of this.
Iran funds Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist groups opposed to Israel. It's clear what their intentions are.
Please don't feed the animals. It only encourages them.
Hey dumpling - did your mama and daddy teach you to lie like that - gram and grandpa too? Hamas and Hezbollah have to defend themselves from you diabolical tribal bastards. We all know the truth - but you just lie and lie and lie - no wonder you Jews are loathed and hated.
That is pure bullshit from an Israeli MIS-translation of the former President of Iran. His words were more like "the Zionist regime should disappear from the pages of time".
In the Palestinian arena, Hezbollah helped Iran upgrade the military-terrorist infrastructure of the terrorist organizations operating in the Gaza Strip after Operation Cast Lead, mainly Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. On the eve of Operation Pillar of Defense the terrorist organizations had many thousands of rockets, among them long-range Fajr-5 rockets manufactured in Iran (eight of which hit or were intercepted in the greater Tel Aviv area). In addition, Hezbollah encourages terrorist attacks against Israel from the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula. During the Palestinian terrorist campaign known as the second intifada, Iran and Hezbollah provided the Palestinian terrorist organizations with financial and military support and handled terrorist squads in the Palestinian territories. http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/20436
And here they admit they lied. http://www.thegu ardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran Now why would you side with liars? From Wiki The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky. According to Howard Sachar, "The policy of the new organization was based squarely on Jabotinsky's teachings: every Jew had the right to enter Palestine; only active retaliation would deter the Arabs; only Jewish armed force would ensure the Jewish state".[2] Two of the operations for which the Irgun is best known are the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre, carried out together with Lehi on 9 April 1948. The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.[3][4] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by Britain,[5] the 1946 Zionist Congress[6] and the Jewish Agency.[7] Irgun's tactics appealed to a certain segment of the Jewish community that believed that any action taken in the cause of the creation of a Jewish state was justified, including terrorism.[8] The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Likud party.[9] Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977. Whatever the truth about what they were, they don't exist anymore and haven't for 70 years, and were never mainstream. Can you say the same about Hamas, Hezbollah, and their relationship with Iran?
Whatever the truth about what they were, they don't exist anymore and haven't for 70 years, and were never mainstream. The article states that Irgun transformed into the Likud party, which IS still around. They also have the Mossad. You've heard of them, right? Can you say the same about Hamas, Hezbollah, and their relationship with Iran? As far as I can tell, Palestinians are being treated as subhumans, sort of how Jews were treated in Nazi Germany. Of course they'll try to resist their extermination. Anyone would. Why don't THEY have a right to exist, eh Abe? A shirttail connection at the most strained of association efforts. They also have the Mossad A top notch intelligence and special forces unit which serves to protest Israelis from terrorists. As far as I can tell, Palestinians are being treated as subhumans Maybe they are just acting as subhuman. There is plenty of Arab money available to have them living in style. Maybe the Muzzies would just rather spend it on suicide bombs and other terrorist activities.
You're not telling us what right Jews have to Palestine. If you feel the Brits owned it and had the right to give it anybody they liked, mind if I make a similar claim on your home? I could come up with logic every bit as good (not very) as the above. If you think it's because God gave them the land 3000 years ago, it's no use. He threw them out of it for defying him, which they're all still doing. To call people terrorists because they're trying to get back what was stolen from them, you're unglued from the basic rules of life and belong on a shrink's couch, not in 4um. Please shut up about Hezbollah etc. It's simply no use. You're not convincing anybody here and not going to. Everything about Israhell is thuggish, not least Satanyahu. He is a thug, he looks like a thug, he talks like a thug, his whole country is terrorist.
A top notch intelligence and special forces unit which serves to protest Israelis from terrorists. Who are good at bombing civilians and making it look like the "other guy" did it. Maybe they are just acting as subhuman. There is plenty of Arab money available to have them living in style. Maybe the Muzzies would just rather spend it on suicide bombs and other terrorist activities. Just who exactly appointed you and your brethren as judges of who shall have the right to live and who won't? Perhaps if your ancestors hadn't exterminated entire villages of Palestinians while stealing their land from them, they'd be less apt to hate you. And perhaps if your kinsmen weren't massacring them and their families, they wouldn't be shooting back at you. Aha!!!! An anti Semite!!!!! To the gaol! Actually I think there is more Semitic blood in Palestinians than there is in those who inhabit Israel and call themselves Jewish. I'd wager that the Palestinians are in fact descendants of the actual Hebrews of ancient Israel, and have more right to the land than anyone else. Of course. The evidence is overwhelming.
If you think it's because God gave them the land 3000 years ago, it's no use. He threw them out of it for defying him, which they're all still doing. Mind if I claim Jerusalem for Christianity, since that's the one "Abrahamic" Monotheistic belief-system which actually originated there with the Resurrection chronicles? The vast majority of the world's religions, atheists, etc., don't believe in a Jewish Real Estate Agent Diety. For nearly 2 millenia after the Romans left the area, no ruling power there was preventing Jews from returning if they wanted to do so, afaik. Evidently, most of them in all that time didn't want to without terrorizing the Brits, as well, with war actions of conquest and then being "rewarded" with billions and billions and multitudinous billions more in foreign aid since to "make the desert bloom" there. Well, in America, there are four-legged amphibious critters that can do such too, for free, and we don't even have to pay them to build dams. Edited spelling + sentences 1-3. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Be my guest! Excellent points! If this was really their country the whole time, they've had centuries of overweening wealth with which to buy it up. Why on earth didn't they? You're right -- too peaceful, too normal, no Biblical epic drama shtick. Many or all Muslim lands were previously Christian, too. What a world it would have been without Mohammed or Menachem. http://www.whale.to/b/2BeginKingDavidHotel.jpg http://www.whale.to/b/2BeginKingDavidHotel.jpg
P.S. Not only have they inordinately been defying their professed celestial "Realtor"/Creator, they've been busily defying their earthly UN manufacturers of State too. Traditional Biblical epic drama at variance ethically with one of the Ten Commandments, i.e. against stealing: Afikoman - Wikipedia In some families, the head of the household hides the afikoman for the children to find, and rewards them with money or candy. In other families, the children "steal" the afikoman and ask for a reward for its return. Edited sentences 1 and 2. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Teaching kiddies to steal! Yeah, Passover has some ridiculous bits of business. I've always thought the roasted egg took the cake.
Your response is a cut n paste job. Lots of copies of this post already on the net, word for word. If a claim for despising a people is not a reason, but an excuse, then it means the real reason has not been disclosed. So what then is the real reason? Do you have another cut n paste for that?
I don't side with liars. I side with our allies and Israel is our allie.
Yeah, we're running with some pretty bad characters.
antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025 "WIPED OFF THE MAP" THE RUMOR OF THE CENTURY John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
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Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
#19. To: purplerose, Abraham (#8)
#20. To: NeoconsNailed, Dakmar (#17)
#21. To: Abraham (#0)
#22. To: Pinguinite, Abraham (#6)
I imagine you won't respond to me on this. It's easy to believe you are paid to post here to give some positive sentiment to the Jewish cause. Maybe you aren't but it's easy for me to believe, as I believe we had one here before. And such financed PR activity is a practice carried out by not just Israel but by many different governments, each furthering their own interests...
#23. To: christine (#22)
#24. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Why is it Jews have been found to be the subject of shunning throughout history?
#25. To: purplerose (#8)
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I stand for Israel
#26. To: noone222 (#25)
#27. To: Abraham (#24)
Why is it Jews have been found to be the subject of shunning throughout history?
#28. To: Lod (#26)
It's past time for us to acknowledge the deception, recant the lies, and come to grip with reality and truth.
#29. To: noone222 (#28)
#30. To: noone222 (#25)
(It's relevant to note here that the BABYLONIAN TALMUD is the primary religious guide of today's "Jews".
#31. To: christine (#19)
#32. To: Abraham (#0)
Golda Meir was right then, and is right now. The conflict will end when the enemies of Israel start loving their children more than they hate Israel.
#33. To: Abraham (#0)
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#34. To: purplerose (#8)
because we all know that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of this earth.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#35. To: Abraham (#24)
#36. To: FormerLurker (#34)
Iran has NEVER in modern times attacked another nation
#37. To: All except Abraham (#36)
#38. To: Abraham (#36)
#39. To: FormerLurker (#34)
Are you for real?
#40. To: johnj (#38)
#41. To: purplerose (#39)
www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran
The translation of the statement he made in 2005, at The World without Zionism conference in Tehran, has been the subject of dispute. A more literal translation is: "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time", and this is the translation we should have used (as noted in Corrections and clarifications, 28 July 2007).
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#42. To: Abraham (#40)
The Irgun (Hebrew: אִרְגּוּן; full title: הָאִרְגּוּן הַצְּבָאִי הַלְּאֻמִּי בְאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל "The National Military Organization in the Land of Israel"), was a Zionist paramilitary group that operated in Mandate Palestine between 1931 and 1948. It was an offshoot of the older and larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah (Hebrew: "Defense", הגנה). When the group broke from the Haganah it became known as the Haganah Bet (Hebrew: literally "Defense 'B' " or "Second Defense", הגנה ב), or alternatively as haHaganah haLeumit (ההגנה הלאומית) or Ha'ma'amad (המעמד).[1] Irgun members were absorbed into the Israel Defense Forces at the start of the 1948 Arab–Israeli war. The Irgun is also referred to as Etzel (אצ"ל), an acronym of the Hebrew initials, or by the abbreviation IZL.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#43. To: FormerLurker (#42)
#44. To: Abraham (#43)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#45. To: FormerLurker (#44)
The article states that Irgun transformed into the Likud party
#46. To: Abraham (#45)
#47. To: Abraham (#45)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#48. To: FormerLurker (#47)
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#49. To: tom007 (#48)
Aha!!!! An anti Semite!!!!!
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#50. To: FormerLurker (#49)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#51. To: NeoconsNailed, Abraham (#46)
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You're not telling us what right Jews have to Palestine. If you feel the Brits owned it and had the right to give it anybody they liked, mind if I make a similar claim on your home? I could come up with logic every bit as good (not very) as the above.
#52. To: GreyLmist (#51)
Mind if I claim Jerusalem for Christianity
#53. To: NeoconsNailed (#52)
(Edited)
Excellent points! If this was really their country the whole time, they've had centuries of overweening wealth with which to buy it up. Why on earth didn't they? You're right -- too peaceful, too normal, no Biblical epic drama shtick.
a half-piece of matzo which is broken in two during the early stages of the Passover Seder and set aside
#54. To: GreyLmist (#53)
#55. To: Abraham (#24)
As we examine the explanations, we must ask — Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse.
#56. To: FormerLurker (#41)
#57. To: purplerose (#56)
I don't side with liars. I side with our allies and Israel is our allie.
#58. To: purplerose (#39)
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
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