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Title: U.S. Air Crew Shot Down over Japan Were Dissected Alive
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Published: Apr 17, 2015
Author: Downtrend
Post Date: 2015-04-17 09:14:32 by Jethro Tull
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A Japanese university has opened a museum acknowledging that its staff dissected downed American airmen while they were still alive during World War II. A gruesome display at the newly-opened museum at Kyushu University explains how eight U.S. POWs were taken to the center’s medical school in Fukuoka after their plane was shot down over the skies of Japan in May 1945. The flyers were subjected to horrific medical experiments. Doctors dissected one soldier’s brain to see if epilepsy could be controlled by surgery, and removed parts of the livers of other prisoners as part of tests to see if they would survive. Another soldier was injected with seawater, in an experiment to see if it could be used instead of sterile saline solution to help dehydration. Poster Comment: Just one small piece of the WWII Japanese war atrocities committed against American servicemen. 
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
horrible...
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
Thankfully their parents are long gone so they never knew what a cruel world they birthed their sons to face.
For sure these poor souls found
themselves inside the infamous Unit 731. The war crimes of the Japanese, altho
rarely discussed especially in Japan, were horrific.
B-29 crewmembers were told that they should expect torture/execution/etc. if forced to bail out over Japan. Unlike Germany, I think (without available historical documents to prove otherwise) American/allied POW's in Japan were facing immediate execution once Operation Olympic commenced.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: scrapper2, christine, 4 (#2)
#4. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: X-15, 4 (#4)
Yes, from all I've read the Germans treated downed Americans far better than the Japanese did. Japan had not signed the Geneva Convention, so there was that.
#6. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#5)
history of the geneva conventions -
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#7. To: X-15 (#4)
We were told same thing if shot down over Korea or Russia. A .45 was provided. We were young but there were no kids involved. B-29 crewmembers were told that they should expect torture/execution/etc. if forced to bail out over Japan.
#8. To: scrapper2 (#2) (Edited)
DON'T READ THIS. Those parents had all lived through WW1 and years of very sane warnings about getting into WW2. They willingly, giddily allowed themselves to be Jewed all over again. The dog had doggedly returned to its vomit and was calling it sirloin steak. It became a matter of shame not to sacrifice your sons, your future to fight the so-called yellow peril half a world away. When it was over, 350,000 of these youth were dead -- only the most physically and mentally perfect specimens, of course. What an impressive second act for white amerika's century of suicide! HAVA NAGILA! I told you all not to read this.
#9. To: Cynicom (#7)
No Kids Allowed when hot engine parts made from *magnesium* and high-octane gas lines are involved. Sounds like a good way to go prematurely grey just from worrying about that alone.
-Alex Kurtagic
#10. To: X-15, Jethro Tull (#9)
Full load 500 pounders, on take off gas fumes so thick you could cut with a knife, dont dare move, touch anything. Sweat or something running into your shoes, cannot communicate, do nothing. Tower finally figures you in trouble, meat wagons and fire trucks, rolling down runway. You pray a lot.
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
On a happier note, those bomber pilots became the best airline pilots in history. After dealing with four field-maintained engines and all manner of in- flight emergencies they were already prepared for anything in civil aviation transportation. They inspired great confidence in a flying public after both wars.
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: X-15 (#11)
Very perceptive. I can tell you why. Nowadays they want you to be Harvard grad, multiple degrees etc etc. In yore they took farm boys with high school education, that divides into two separate classes of people. Chuck Yeager for instance. Two of the best pilots I ever flew with, never saw the insides of a college, barely made it thru high school. Check the records, of any profession, doctors have the worst accident record of any profession. those bomber pilots became the best airline pilots in history.
#13. To: Cynicom (#12)
Farm boys know how machines work, and how to keep'em working as needed. No degree necessary.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#14. To: Lod (#13)
Indeed... One of best I ever knew was from barn storming days. Fly anything with wheels on it, never had a license of any kind. Farm boys know how machines work, and how to keep'em working as needed.
#15. To: Cynicom (#12) (Edited)
Do you suppose it's because more doctors fly (have airplanes) than other folks, or what? Edit: I always heard doctors & aircraft don't mix, never knew why or just don't remember. Check the records, of any profession, doctors have the worst accident record of any profession.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#16. To: Cynicom (#14)
Man, you must've been one hell of a pilot, I always needed wings when I was flying. ;) I was fussy that way. Nowadays, I can't even stand up without falling down, bet I'd be a really good pilot now. I was thinking about getting a motorcycle before the accident, but now I fear I'd only ride it once. Better get a cheap one if I do. And good insurance. Fly anything with wheels on it,
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: Esso (#15)
As education is added, especially doctors, they have a false sense of assurance, they can do anything that lesser mortals can do. They are in charge at all times. In aviation that can be fatal. Arrogance is a good word. Edit: I always heard doctors & aircraft don't mix, never knew why or just don't remember.
#18. To: Esso (#16)
Was not me. Was older farm boy turned plumber. He was olde before I found out he never had a license of any kind. Man, you must've been one hell of a pilot, I always needed wings when I was flying. ;) I was fussy that way.
#19. To: Cynicom (#17)
Were not the V-tailed Bonanzas marketed towards doctors?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
Ah, one of the guys who actually helped eradicate diseases that the doctors & their needles took credit for. Was older farm boy turned plumber.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#21. To: Esso (#19)
Beech Bonanza was a pilots airplane, not a doctors.
#22. To: Cynicom (#21)
A search for V-tailed Bonanza and doctors led to some interesting articles. The V-tail design gained a reputation as the "forked-tail doctor killer", due to crashes by overconfident amateur pilots with high-level skills outside aviation, fatal accidents, and inflight breakups. "Doctor killer" has sometimes been used to describe the conventional-tailed version as well.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Only by comparison. The Germans considered airmen as war criminals (as indeed they are) and did shoot them. OTOH they were more lenient with spies than the allies where--they did not shoot them but the allied forces did. Yes, from all I've read the Germans treated downed Americans far better than the Japanese did. Japan had not signed the Geneva Convention, so there was that.
#24. To: Ada (#23)
I never felt bad about it, still dont. Only by comparison. The Germans considered airmen as war criminals (as indeed they are)
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
Depends on whose ox is being gored, I suppose.
#26. To: Ada (#23)
Prove to me that the Germans considered downed US airmen as "war criminals." The Germans considered airmen as war criminals
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
It is apparent some people have never lived in the real world. They live in fantasy land, with tooth fairy, Santa, Easter bunny. Prove to me that the Germans considered downed US airmen as "war criminals."
#28. To: Ada (#25)
I am always interested in true life experiences concerning the military time of most anyone. Not particularly interested in imprinted brainwashing by the system. Depends on whose ox is being gored, I suppose.
#29. To: Cynicom (#28)
My Grampa was WW-2 Flight Crew for B-17's flying over The Hump. He used to tell us about the people (Japs, mostly) that were eaten by British East Africa Corp stationed in India. Poor old fella came back to The States in 1945/46 an old man. The Japanese don't owe me anything.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#30. To: Dakmar (#29)
Yes they do, plenty. Anyone that pays taxes is paying to protect Japan from China/Russia. This has been so since 1945, most taxpayers are oblivious to such. Of course schools and college do not educate students these days about many things. The Japanese don't owe me anything.
#31. To: Cynicom (#30)
Let's find some Koreans and stage a cage match! :) Anyone that pays taxes is paying to protect Japan from China/Russia. This has been so since 1945, most taxpayers are oblivious to such.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#32. To: Dakmar (#31)
Japanese are Koreans. Let's find some Koreans and stage a cage match! :)
#33. To: Cynicom (#32)
Uh-huh, just like I'm Scottish. Can I get ye a rabid pup missy, to dry yer tears? Japanese are Koreans.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#34. To: Cynicom (#27)
They live in fantasy land, with tooth fairy, Santa, Easter bunny. I want to hear it too. That would be much more like amerikan policy from everything I've read. Just because "our boys" were whipped into a frenzy about the "evil Huns" 75 years ago doesn't mean Germans are still suitable for demonization and target practice. Countries need to grow up -- this one needs to acknowledge its own war crimes past and present if it's ever to reach its mental late teens. Prove to me that the Germans considered downed US airmen as "war criminals." It is apparent some people have never lived in the real world.
#35. To: Dakmar (#29) (Edited)
You mean because of the horrors he'd witnessed, Dak? Interesting. Are you calling all airmen war criminals in #5 above? He used to tell us about the people (Japs, mostly) that were eaten by British East Africa Corp stationed in India. Poor old fella came back to The States in 1945/46 an old man.
#36. To: Cynicom (#32)
Can I borrow your '63 Corvette?
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#37. To: NeoconsNailed (#35) (Edited)
Slogging it out across the Asian land-mass has never been easy, AFAICT. You mean because of the horrors he'd witnessed?
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#38. To: Dakmar (#37)
My FIL flew the hump; toughest duty he ever pulled. Blessed with some cheap cigars and a spot o'rye, he lived to fly many more days. RIP
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#39. To: Lod (#38)
I would have welcomed a drink too, those guys were tough. My FIL flew the hump; toughest duty he ever pulled. Blessed with some cheap cigars and a spot o'rye, he lived to fly many more days.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#40. To: Esso, Cynicom (#19)
It took a doctor to afford one, still does: https://www.bonanza.org/component/aclassif/?ct=veh1&Itemid=155 The tragedy with that mix was the doctors arrogance/ego towards flying into bad weather when they should have turned back/diverted or landed to wait for the weather to pass. Plus the doctors infrequent flying led to their airman's skills atrophying. Also, as Cynicom pointed out, a Bonanza requires top piloting skills. That's not due to it being a dangerous aircraft but rather being significantly more complex than a Piper Cherokee, which is where most doctors belong.
-Alex Kurtagic
#41. To: X-15 (#40) (Edited)
You'd better get yourself straight with modern medicine, mister!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#42. To: Ada (#23)
On more than one occasion a Wehrmacht or Luftwaffe officer sent out to collect a downed airman used their sidearm to hold a crowd of German civilians at bay in order to safely capture an airman. The German civilians called the bomber airmen 'terrorfliegers'. The fighter pilots were well respected on both sides, to the point that downed pilots were occasionally treated to a nice dinner with conversation if they were preceded by their reputation. Only by comparison. The Germans considered airmen as war criminals (as indeed they are) and did shoot them. OTOH they were more lenient with spies than the allies where--they did not shoot them but the allied forces did.
-Alex Kurtagic
#43. To: Dakmar (#41)
What's old is new again, 4 valves per cylinder, supercharged, fuel injected (1930's): 
-Alex Kurtagic
#44. To: X-15 (#43)
Napier Deltic
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#45. To: X-15 (#43)
22 bench testing V12
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#46. To: Esso, Cynicom, Lod, Jethro Tull, NeoconsNailed (#45)
V-12 Merlin motor ping.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#47. To: X-15 (#46)
Did you see that bunnyrabbit?
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#48. To: X-15 (#42)
"In all, over three waves of attacks, 3,300 tons of bombs were dropped on the city. Many of the bombs that were dropped were incendiary bombs. These created so much fire that a firestorm developed. The more the city burned, the more oxygen was sucked in – and the greater the firestorm became. It is thought that the temperature peaked at 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit. The surface of roads melted and fleeing people found that their feet were burned as they ran. Some jumped into reservoirs built in the city centre to assist firefighters. However, these were ten feet deep, smooth-sided and had no ladders - many drowned. Very few of those in the city centre survived – those that did provided a vivid picture of what it was like to be in a firestorm. There were no warning sirens. We were completely surprised and rushed back down to the cellars of the hospital. But these quickly became hopelessly overcrowded with people who could no longer find shelter in their own burning buildings. The crush was unbearable, we were so tight you could not fall over." "Apart from the fire risk, it was becoming increasingly impossible to breathe in the cellar because the air was being pulled out by the increasing strength of the blaze." "We could not stand up, we were on all fours, crawling. the wind was full of sparks and carrying bits of blazing furniture, debris and burning bits of bodies." "There were charred bodies everywhere." "The experience of the bombing was far worse than being on the Russian front, where I was a front-line machine gunner." http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/bombing_of_dresden.htm The German civilians called the bomber airmen 'terrorfliegers'.
#49. To: X-15, Ada, Cyni (#42)
Most agree that officers and airmen received preferential treatment over enlisted soldiers. And while there were numerous P.O.W.s who recounted tales of abuse at the hands of their German captors, most American P.O.W.s also felt that at their respective Stalags the Nazis, for the most part, abided by the rules of the Geneva Convention.
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
The Germans treated their allied POW's better than they treated the Russians. Tit-for-tat, I suppose. If you didn't want your POWs treated badly, you didn't mistreat the enemy's Airmen were considered war criminals by the German people for obvious reasons. You might remember the Russelheim massacre: "THE murder of six unarmed American airmen by an angry mob in the last summer of the Second World War was remembered by a German town yesterday, ending more than half a century of secrecy. The men had baled out of a burning aircraft in August 1944. The badly injured radio operator was taken to hospital and the Germans took the eight other airmen by train to a prisoner of war camp north of Frankfurt. The route led through Rüsselsheim. "There they were set upon by a crowd of more than a hundred people, including housewives and workers from a nearby factory using milk churns, bomb rubble and hammers. A Nazi official finished off six of the airmen with bullets in the head, to the general applause of the mob. Two of the Americans survived by pretending to be dead. After the war the US Army sentenced five of the mob to death and five others to long jail sentences. Yesterday the town of Rüsselsheim, near Frankfurt, fell silent in remembrance. " German captors, most American P.O.W.s also felt that at their respective Stalags the Nazis, for the most part, abided by the rules of the Geneva Convention.
#51. To: Ada, Jethro Tull (#50)
Changing horses in mid stream is a bit disingenuous. Airmen were considered war criminals by the German people
#52. To: Cynicom. Ada (#51)
I guess that's the proof that I asked for? Maybe they
should have been angry at Hitler for declaring war on US? Airmen were considered war criminals by the German people
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#52)
In the narrative, one crew member empties his .45 on the Japanese, then does himself with the last one. That is why we were issued .45s. What you decide to do is up to each individual. Some people cannot grasp that war is not akin to a Sunday school picnic where everyone plays nice. People that cannot grasp simple math will never be able to grasp what war is like.
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52)
Maybe they should have been angry at Hitler for declaring war on US? Have the American people ever gotten angry with our leaders for waging war on scores of countries that did us no harm? I don't think the historians have ever figured out why Hitler declared war on the US. For years he had been avoiding and ignoring all our provocations. Made absolutely no sense
#55. To: Ada (#23)
2% or 3% of American POWs died in German camps but ,50% in Japanese camps.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#56. To: Turtle (#55)
Very few Japanese were prosecuted for war crimes. Believe it or not, the explanation for the discrepancy was that the Germans were expected to know better.
#57. To: Ada (#54)
What's to "figure out?" Japan was Germany's ally. After Pear Harbor happened, Germany was in with Japan and Italy vs the USA and its allies. September 27, 1940: Germany, Italy, and Japan sign the Tripartite Pact. December 7, 1941: Japan bombs Pearl Harbor. December 8, 1941: The United States declares war on Japan, entering World War II. December 11–13, 1941: Nazi Germany and its Axis partners declare war on the United States I don't think the historians have ever figured out why Hitler declared war on the US.
#58. To: Ada (#56)
Quite a few Japs were tried and hung after the war, but it was no "Nuremberg Tribunal!" with a parade of Jews spewing bullshit about gas chambers with wood doors. Many more committed ritual suicide in order to avoid allied retribution and/or public humiliation (saving face).
-Alex Kurtagic
#59. To: X-15 (#58)
I was at Wake Island after the war. It was littered with Japanese tanks, gun emplacements etc etc. The Japanese took 98 civilians out and machine gunned them. Wake back then was most eerie place I ever visited, so much history. One could not stand there at sunset and not feel the past. Never forget it.
#60. To: Cynicom (#59) (Edited)
Got to know one of the in-laws on my wife's side of the family. Man was a marine who fought in the Pacific theater during WWII. He'd once recounted how they were mopping up after taking one of the stepping stone islands on the way to invading the Japanese islands themselves. I believe it was Iwo Jima. He's gone now, so there's no way to check the story, but that is neither here nor there. I remember being shocked at how matter of factly he told the story of taking the surrender of a Japanese soldier on the beach. They disarmed him, searched him and sent him on his way. They let him walk on down the beach toward nowhere until he was about 25 yards away and let one fly out of a Garand. Hit him in the back. That was the end of that particular infantryman. I must have registered my surprise at the end of the tale, because the old man offered that there was no way to take prisoners on that occasion. It's still kind of hard for me to stomach shooting a man in the back, but hey, island hopping was a vicious affair in those days, and there was little hope of mercy at the business end of a Japanese Imperial bayonet.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#61. To: randge (#60)
Lowest basic premise of all military, kill or be killed. There are times and places for mercy to be extended, often not. Friend of mine, 101st airborne on his way down was under gun of German soldier. He could have shot him in parachute, he did not. Why not???? Circumstances and human nature.
#62. To: Cynicom (#61)
That German soldier was probably my dad. He once told me while we were watching a WWII movie that his officers instructed him that it was against the laws of war to fire on a man suspended from a parachute.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#63. To: randge (#62)
My friend told me the soldier was older man. He took my friends rifle then helped him out of harness etc. He spoke English. He took my friend to the Command Post, turned him over to others, when he walked away he said good luck to my friend. War? No,, not at all.
#64. To: Cynicom, randge, 4 (#63)
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#65. To: Lod, Ada, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, randge, scrapper2, Neocons Nailed (#64)
The Tokyo War Crimes Trials (1946-1948) Occupation official turned historian Richard B. Finn notes, "World War II was the first major conflict in history in which the victors carried out trials and punishment of thousands of persons in the defeated nations for 'crimes against peace' and 'crimes against humanity,' two new and broadly defined categories of international crime." For most people, this calls to mind the trials of Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg. But an equally difficult, fascinating, and controversial set of trials occurred in Tokyo, under the watchful eye of Supreme Commander Douglas MacArthur. The Tokyo trials were not the only forum for the punishment of Japanese war criminals, merely the most visible. In fact, the Asian countries victimized by the Japanese war machine tried far more Japanese -- an estimated five thousand, executing as many as 900 and sentencing more than half to life in prison. But with Japan under the control of the Americans, the most prominent Japanese war leaders came under MacArthur's jurisdiction. The Potsdam declaration of July 1945 had called for trials and purges of those who had "deceived and misled" the Japanese people into war. That was the simple part; there was major disagreement, both among the Allies and within the U.S., about whom to try and how to try them. Despite the lack of consensus, MacArthur lost no time, ordering the arrest of thirty-nine suspects -- most of them members of General Tojo's war cabinet -- on September 11, just over a week after the surrender. Perhaps caught off guard, Tojo tried to committ suicide, but was resuscitated with the help of American doctors eager to deny him even that means of escape. On October 6 MacArthur received a directive, soon approved by the other Allied powers, granting him the authority to proceed with the major trials and giving him basic guidelines for their conduct. As they had done in Germany, the Allies set up three broad categories. "Class A" charges alleging "crimes against peace" were to be brought against Japan's top leaders who had planned and directed the war. Class B and C charges, which could be leveled at Japanese of any rank, covered "conventional war crimes" and "crimes against humanity," respectively. In early November, the supreme commander was given authority to purge other war time leaders from public life. Again, MacArthur moved quickly: by December 8 he had set up an international prosecution section under former U.S. assistant attorney general Joseph Keenan, which began gathering evidence and preparing for the high-profile Class A trials. On January 19, 1946, MacArthur announced the establishment of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMFTE), and a few weeks later selected its eleven judges from names submitted to him by the governments sitting on the Allied Far Eastern Commission. He also named Keenan the chief prosecutor and Australian Sir William Webb the tribunal's president. Twenty-eight high-ranking political and military leaders were indicted on 55 counts of "crimes against peace, conventional war crimes, and crimes against humanity." The Tokyo trials began on May 3, 1946, and lasted two and a half years. Although an improvement over the hasty Manila trials, which were also organized by MacArthur and resulted in the executions of Generals Yamashita and Homma, the Tokyo trials have been criticized as another example of "victors' justice." One of the more authoratative studies condemns them strongly: "We have found its foundation in international law to be shaky. We have seen that its process was seriously flawed. We have examined the verdict's inadequacy as history." On November 4, 1948, Webb announced that all of the defendants had been found guilty. Seven were sentenced to death, sixteen to life terms, two to lesser terms, two had died during the trials and one had been found insane. After reviewing their decisions, MacArthur expressed his regrets but praised the work of the tribunal and upheld the verdicts. Although calling the duty "utterly repugnant to me," MacArthur went on to say, "No human decision is infallible but I can conceive of no judicial process where greater safeguard was made to evolve justice." On December 23, 1948, General Tojo and six others were hung at Sugamo prison. MacArthur, afraid of embarrassing and antagonizing the Japanese people, defied the wishes of President Truman and barred photography of any kind, instead bringing in four members of the Allied Council to act as official witnesses.
-Alex Kurtagic
#66. To: X-15 (#65)
Americans may have hated MacArthur but all Japanese respected him.
#67. To: X-15, Cynicom (#65) (Edited)
It would be absolutely lovely, except that we're Americans. They're Japanese. We didn't belong in Japan before or during the war, and we haven't belonged there since. WW2 was the beginning of the end for amerika -- needlessly, pointlessly, vaingloriously. Much of the time when you hear World War Jew mentioned, it's in reference to some undesirable change it wrought on U.S. You don't see a direct line from Rosie the Riveter to the push for a "first woman president"? Really? How about forced race mixing -- it was a WW2 vet who informed me that desegregating the troops was thanks to Eleanor Roosevelt/Rosenfeld, who also pioneered firing whites because of their race (read Debnam's Weep No More My Lady). Don't forget, now -- Hellary's first 15 minutes of fame included her claim of communing with Eleanor's ghost. We're told the WW2 vets were the Greatest Generation by a covert Jew named Brokaw and those who worship shining media darlings like him. But if that's the case, how did it manage to produce the worst generation -- mine, the baby boomers? We were supposed to be the peace and love people, but we're in power now and amerika is the horror of the new millennium. Jeff Rense & Gerald Celente - Slaughter Around The World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlO9zATm2k Pile the stuff as high as you want, gang. It doesn't change basic facts and logic. If you love World War Jew, love its 21st-century granddaughter, gift of PNAC Jews Perle, Wolfowitz et al -- let's have some consistency here! Hey, how many times have we been told we have to stop those rotten ISLAMO- FASCISTS because we stopped Hitler? Get it -- fascists? It's the main reasons we're doing it. All I'm doing is voicing the traditional Constitutionalist paleo- conservative position. That's all I'm doing. War worship runs counter to the very fabric of true Americanism. Some things actually are that simple. http://justice4germans.com/2013/05/31/new-book-exposes-american-wwii-gis- were-dangerous-sex-crazed-rapists/
#68. To: X-15 (#65)
The two executed generals had personally offended MacArthur by defeating him. May not have been justified but, still, it was only two. esulted in the executions of Generals Yamashita and Homma, the Tokyo trials have been criticized as another example of "victors' justice."
#69. To: Cynicom (#66)
Admired him too. The Japanese had expected to be treated the way they treated others but the axe did not fall on them thanks to MacArthur. all Japanese respected him.
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