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Title: Gunslinger US General Readies for War with Russia
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Published: Apr 20, 2015
Author: Stephen Lendman
Post Date: 2015-04-20 13:41:36 by Stephen Lendman
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Gunslinger US General Readies for War with Russia

by Stephen Lendman

America is run by neocon lunatics and gunslinger generals. Together they threaten world peace.

Washington’s only enemies are ones it invents to wage endless wars of aggression - premeditated ones against one country after another posing no threat to anyone.

Rogue states operate this way. Readers familiar with Orwell's 1984 understand. America exceeds the worst of what he envisioned.

World peace hangs by a thread. Humanity's survival is up for grabs.

General Ben Hodges heads US Army Europe (USAREUR). On April 18, he lied telling London's Telegraph NATO must stay united against a "real threat" from Russia.

"This is not an assumption," he blustered. "There is a Russian threat."

Fact: The whole world knows Russia threatens no other country - not America, other NATO members, other nations, none whatever.

Fact: No country goes more all-out for world peace and stability than Russia.

Fact: None try harder to resolve ongoing conflicts diplomatically.

Fact: None more deserve high praise for their efforts.

Fact: America more than any other nation threatens world peace, stability and security.

Fact: Its endless direct and proxy wars kill millions.

Fact: It's reckless imperial agenda may kill us all.

Hodges outrageously accused an unnamed Russian official with threatening Denmark with a nuclear attack "if it participates in any missile defense program" -  intended entirely for offense against Russia.

He said deploying US combat forces in Eastern Europe close to Russian territory and parading them across international borders (an exercise called Dragoon Ride) sends a "reassuring (signal to) our allies."

In March, angry anti-war Czechs responded saying "Tanks? No thanks!" They want no part of US combat troops and heavy weapons on their territory.

They called it "an unnecessary and dangerously provocative military (stunt), which only increas(s) international tension."

World Without Wars and Without Violence member Tana Bednarova said "(t)he last time that vehicles like this came to the Czech Republic, they were Soviet tanks coming to crush moves towards democracy in 1968."

"We don’t want such vehicles from foreign armies coming here ever again," she stressed.

She criticized NATO's eastern expansion saying if Washington and Alliance partners "want to create security in the world, then Russia and China and all other countries…should be invited to join."

Separately, Hodges said "(t)he whole purpose (of US Eastern European deployments) is to assure those allies that live closest to the Bear that we are here."

"President Putin exercises freedom of movement all the time. He moves troops and stuff around Russia whenever he wants to."

Fact: He does it nonthreateningly inside Russian territory.

Fact: America operates provocatively on foreign soil close to Russia's borders - risking direct confrontation by intent or judgmental error.

According to Hodges, perhaps it's inevitable so America has "to be militarily ready."

"The best insurance we have against a showdown is that (US-dominated) NATO stands together."

Accusations of "Russian aggression" ring hollow - Big Lies substantiated only by provocative bluster.

"We're not interested in a fair fight with anyone," Hodges said. "I want to have overmatch in all systems."

Russian lower house State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Konstantin Kosachev said Hodges' comments show US-dominated NATO will never treat Russia equitably.

It wants military superiority in readiness for an eventual showdown with Moscow.

It wants hundreds of thousands of NATO Rapid Deployable Corps combat troops positioned close to Russia's borders. It wants war, not peace.

In his last interview before death, noted German author Gunter Grass warned about  "sleepwalking towards another world war." He told the Spanish newspaper El Pais:

"We have on the one side Ukraine, whose situation is not improving; in Israel and Palestine things are getting worse; the disaster the Americans left in Iraq, the atrocities of Islamic state and the problem of Syria."

"There is war everywhere. We run the risk of committing the same mistakes as before. So without realizing it, we can get into a world war as if we were sleepwalking."

"All of this together makes me realize that things are finite - that we don't have an indefinite amount of time," Grass explained.

Maybe less than he imagined.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.

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#1. To: Stephen Lendman (#0) (Edited)

No country goes more all-out for world peace and stability than Russia.

And they say that right wingnuts don't make good comedians.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-20   15:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

And they say that right wingnuts don't make good comedians.

Which country on this planet is currently occupying or stationing troops and weapons in more countries than any other in history?

Hint:

From 2002:

Now tell me how many counties the Russian Federation has attacked, occupied, and/or stationed troops and bases in...


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   15:53:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#1)

And they say that right wingnuts don't make good comedians.

Oh and BTW, if you were to bother checking ANY facts whatsoever, you'd know that Steve Lendman is a left-leaning socialist just by visiting his website.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   15:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Now tell me how many counties the Russian Federation has attacked

Crimea...Georgia...Ukraine...they have troops, mostly unwelcome. in all of the *independent* Southern and western nations that were former soviets...they are advising Syria and, in some instances, are actually manning some of the weapons systems there.

This article isn't about the US, doofus. Stop trying to draw false equivalencies.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-20   16:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#3) (Edited)

Oh and BTW, if you were to bother checking ANY facts whatsoever, you'd know that Steve Lendman is a left-leaning socialist just by visiting his website.

Riiight...and the video of Eric Garner being choked to death isn't a video of...Eric Garner being choked to death...

You could be *right* tho...who can tell these days?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-20   16:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Oh and BTW, if you were to bother checking ANY facts whatsoever

You mean like checking in to whether or not the Ukraine was "any kind of entity" prior to the 1950s?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-20   16:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

You mean like checking in to whether or not the Ukraine was "any kind of entity" prior to the 1950s?

I never said anything about the 1950's, YOU DID.

Ukraine never existed as a nation until AFTER the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Prior to the existance of the Soviet Union, it did not exist as a political entity or geographic region.

Do you understand, or do you need more pictures?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   17:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#1)

Lendman is a leftie you moron.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-04-20   17:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#4) (Edited)

Crimea...Georgia...Ukraine...they have troops, mostly unwelcome, in all of the *independent* Southern and western nations that were former soviets...they are advising Syria and, in some instances, are actually manning some of the weapons systems there.

Bullshit.

Crimea hosted the Russian Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol for centuries. Russia had the legal authority to have up to 20,000 troops there for that reason.

Once Ukraine's legal government was overthrown, Russia no longer had any sort of agreement with Ukraine, as that nation no longer existed. Did you think they were going to hand their base over to NATO? And let's not forget that the PEOPLE of Crimea, which used to be part of RUSSIA for the past several centuries until torn from it once the Soviet Union collapsed, VOTED to rejoin Russia since they did not accept the fascists put into power in Kiev as their legal authorities.

As far as Ukraine, please post ANY SOLID EVIDENCE that Russia has stepped foot into that country beyond humanitarian aid. I don't mean pictures of tanks from 10 years ago in a different country, I mean ACTUAL evidence that they entered Ukraine militarily this century.

As far as Georgia, it was the Georgian government which attacked it's own citizens in South Ossetia, and since the majority of those people were actual Russian citizens (after South Ossetia declared its independence from Georgia), Russia sent troops to protect its citizens from military attack and drove back the Georgian tanks.

So Russia has been on a mission of DEFENDING itself and its citizens against attack, whereas OUR nation and allies have been the ones doing the attacking against any nation seen as too weak to resist.

in all of the *independent* Southern and western nations that were former soviets...they are advising Syria and, in some instances, are actually manning some of the weapons systems there.

You're sniffing glue again apparently. NATO has swallowed the majority of former Soviet republics, and DO have troops there.

As far as Syria, it is the WEST who is arming, training, and supporting Al- Qaeda and ISIS (ISIL or whatever name they go by today) to terrorize, rape, torture, and kill Syrian civilians. It is the WEST who is bombing innocent Yemenis to smithereens, in order to steal their land, their oil, and subject their people to tyranny.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   17:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#7)

Why waste the time on that idiot "war" ...

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-04-20   17:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#5)

Riiight...and the video of Eric Garner being choked to death isn't a video of...Eric Garner being choked to death...

What's that have to do with anything here? Maybe you could bring up Trayvon Martin while you're at it.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   17:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#10)

Why waste the time on that idiot "war" ...

Just enjoy negating his propaganda and outright lies.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-20   18:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#3)

And they say that right wingnuts don't make good comedians. Oh and BTW, if you were to bother checking ANY facts whatsoever, you'd know that Steve Lendman is a left-leaning socialist just by visiting his website.

Hate to admit it but war's right about Russia. It's a dinosaur that's been stomping the life out of other countries for too long to count. Despite its ruined, massively drunken condition, people there seem to believe in it passionately as in let's go back to the good old days under Stalin.

I don't care how long Crimea was part of Russia or USSR. It wasn't doing any harm as part of Ukraine, the situation was stable until Washington started raping Ukraine ("f*** the EU" and all that). But once again, Russia is not amerika's problem. We're not obligated to do, say or think anything about the place except to stop harassing and encircling it in our obnoxious Jew fashion and start repairing the damage it;s done insofar as that's possible.

Lendman may be a liberal on some things but it doesn't take away one byte of the good he does, much of which seems to appear here without causing allergic reactions.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-20   20:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#7) (Edited)

I never said anything about the 1950's, YOU DID.

You claimed that the Ukraine did not exist until after the formation of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union did not recognize the Ukraine as a Soviet until the 1950s.

Do you enjoy revealing your geo-political ignorance ass much as you do your engineering ignorance?

#17. To: war (#14)

WAR: Go back to the 1950s when the Ukraine was a neophyte Soviet republic and Russia pushed indigenous Ukranians out of the eastern part of their own nation to establish a Soviet foothold in the nation.

DOOFUS: Your retarded view of history is comical. The eastern part of Ukraine WAS Russia up until the formation of the Soviet Union.

Ukraine did not exist as a separate entity UNTIL the Soviet Union, the land called Ukraine was actually Russia, Hungary, and Poland. Are you too stupid and lazy to look anything up before you make a complete fool of yourself?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   7:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#9) (Edited)

Crimea hosted the Russian Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol for centuries.

Okay...so the US has the *RIGHT* to be wherever it puts troops.

OOps...that *logic* thing once again escapes you...

As far as Ukraine, please post ANY SOLID EVIDENCE that Russia has stepped foot into that country beyond humanitarian aid. I don't mean pictures of tanks from 10 years ago in a different country, I mean ACTUAL evidence that they entered Ukraine militarily this century.

www.theguardian.com/world...ov/12/nato-russian-tanks- http://entering- ukraine">www.theguardian.com/world...an-tanks-entering- ukraine

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   7:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15)

Okay...so the US has the *RIGHT* to be wherever it puts troops.

The US has the right to have a naval base in Virginia just like Russia has the right to have a base within its own territory. Crimea has been Russian/Soviet territory since before this country was even born.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#14)

So what part of Ukraine did not exist as a nation until after the collapse of the Soviet Union do you fail to understand?

What part of Ukraine did not exist as a political entity until the birth of the Soviet Union fails to register between your ears?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: FormerLurker (#16) (Edited)

Crimea has been Russian/Soviet territory since before this country was even born.

Actually, this nation was *born* in 1776...Crimea was annexed in 1783...

So, once again you're *wrong*...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   10:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

So if Russia decided to fund, instigate, and militarily support the overthrow of the Mexican government, and support the genocide of any pesky Mexicans who didn't support say a communist dicatator as their new leader, that'd be ok, eh? The US should just mind it's own business and let those Mexicans deal with the situation, and whatever those new leaders want to do is perfectly fine.

I ask that because that is what the US and NATO did to Ukraine.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)

What happened on January 25th, 1918?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   10:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#18)

Actually, this nation was *born* in 1776...Crimea was annexed in 1783...

Ok, so I was off by a couple of years. However, Crimea did win its independence from the Ottomon Empire in 1774 due to the outcome of the Russian/Ottomon war, and was annexed not long after.

The point it, it's been Russian territory for ALMOST as long as our own nation has existed.

The people there are Russian.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#21)

The people there are Russian.

Not indigenously...

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   10:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

It's a dinosaur that's been stomping the life out of other countries for too long to count. Despite its ruined, massively drunken condition, people there seem to believe in it passionately as in let's go back to the good old days under Stalin.

It has not bothered it's neighbors since the Soviet era. As far as what the people there are like, I'd say they wish to be able to live in peace and not suffer any threat or malice from foreign nations.

They've adopted some western traits, such as music, fashion, electronic gadgets, etc. But they are not morally bankrupt as people have become here and elsewhere in the so-called "western nations".


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#21)

The definition of 'insanity': Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Don't argue with drunks or provocateurs named war.

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-21   10:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#23)

It has not bothered it's neighbors since the Soviet era.

It hasn't been able to pillage the natural resources of what were once mineral/commodity rich soviets to support its Soviet Era war machine.

The Russians are natural Imperialists.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   10:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#22)

Not indigenously...

Well I suppose not one person here in the US are really here indigenously either, even the native Americans came from elsewhere.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   10:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#24)

You know that, absent your insane obsession with Jews, you and I agree on a lot.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   11:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#26) (Edited)

Well I suppose not one person here in the US are really here indigenously either, even the native Americans came from elsewhere.

Most of the people in the US have generational ties to this nation.

The Russians in Crimea, do not. They were posted there for some reason or another. The *plebiscite* that they had there was a joke. Most of the people who *favored* annexation won't be living there in another year or so.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   11:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#27)

you and I agree on a lot.

I would agree with that if you can show me where.

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-04-21   11:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#28)

Most of the people in the US have generational ties to this nation.

The Russians in Crimea, do not. They were posted there for some reason or another. The *plebiscite* that they had there was a joke. Most of the people who *favored* annexation won't be living there in another year or so.

Pure BS. The people who live in Crimea have generational ties that go back to the 1700s. Most people here have ancestors who came to this continent less than two hundred years ago.

And since 96% of the Crimean voting populace chose to rejoin Russia, do you imply that only 4% will still be alive in another year?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   11:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#30)

The people who live in Crimea have generational ties that go back to the 1700s.

Of course there are.

Not very many of them are Russian.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   11:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#29)

This thread.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   11:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FormerLurker (#30)

And since 96% of the Crimean voting populace chose to rejoin Russia, do you imply that only 4% will still be alive in another year?

Chyea...on a 123% voter turnout on an issue that had been polling @ less than 40%, 96% of them chose to join the Federation...

That Truther *math* works the world over, eh?

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   11:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#23) (Edited)

It has not bothered it's neighbors since the Soviet era. As far as what the people there are like, I'd say they wish to be able to live in peace and not suffer any threat or malice from foreign nations.

They've adopted some western traits, such as music, fashion, electronic gadgets, etc. But they are not morally bankrupt as people have become here and elsewhere in the so-called "western nations".

This sounds like total fantasy to me. What are you basing it on? The Soviet era only ended 26 years ago. Putin was born smack in the middle of it and became a KGB officer. Grabbing Crimea was an act of naked Soviet-style aggression, that's all it is.

Where is CONTEXT on major issues? The context here is that the USSR forced starvation on Ukraine within the lifetime of many still breathing -- unquestionably including some of its victims. It has never apologized for this genuine holocaust, for annexing the Baltics, Belarus, Kazakhstan, or the rest of the endless list of smaller countries it ate. I doubt Russia's even acknowledged it's central role in the Holodomor!

In the West we see moronic, phony waves of apology for past deeds (real and imagined) like slavery. I'll believe in Russia when it starts not only apologizing for its very real atrocities and genocides but offering them some kind of restitution, however symbolic.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-21   11:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: NeoconsNailed (#34) (Edited)

Putin was born smack in the middle of it and became a KGB officer. Grabbing Crimea was an act of naked Soviet-style aggression, that's all it is.

Putin was a KGB analyst, not an operative.

Look at OUR illustreous 41st president, George Bush. He was not only a CIA operative, he was DIRECTOR of the CIA. What WE'VE been doing since him, and before him in fact, IS naked aggression across the planet.

If Russia had steamrolled into Crimea with tanks and blasted away at Ukraine military units, ok, that'd be aggression.

However, any Russian troops present in Crimea were ALREADY there for the most part, and there was NO hostile actions of any type involved, no shooting, no bombs, nothing.

So that's not "Soviet-style aggression", that's protecting their assets and maintaining order, and preventing theft of their naval vessels and facilities by NATO.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   12:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: NeoconsNailed (#34)

Where is CONTEXT on major issues? The context here is that the USSR forced starvation on Ukraine within the lifetime of many still breathing -- unquestionably including some of its victims. It has never apologized for this genuine holocaust, for annexing the Baltics, Belarus, Kazakhstan, or the rest of the endless list of smaller countries it ate. I doubt Russia's even acknowledged it's central role in the Holodomor!

When has the US apologized for causing millions of Iraqi children to starve to death?

When are we going to apologize for aiding ISIS and Al-Qaeda rape, pillage, and murder their way across Syria?

When are we going to apologize for killing hordes of innocent men, women, and children in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and aiding Saudi Arabia kill innocent civilians in Yemen?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   12:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: NeoconsNailed (#34)

What it comes down to is that we had no right whatsoever to force the overthrow of a legitimately elected government, yet we did it anyways.

Note how the event was timed to coincide with the Winter Olympics, with Russia hosting it. Sort of guaranteed Russia wouldn't intervene or take firmer measures to prevent it. Couldn't have a military confrontation with NATO while the Olympics were going on..


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   12:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FormerLurker (#37) (Edited)

What it comes down to is that we had no right whatsoever to force the overthrow of a legitimately elected government, yet we did it anyways.

That *overthrow*, as you mistakenly call it, was, in fact. the result of a democratic procedure in the Ukrainian Parliament.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   13:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker (#37)

Note how the event was timed to coincide with the Winter Olympics...

Yanukovich was removed the day before the Olympics ended and there was a three month period before the next election.

--Fuck your breath.

war  posted on  2015-04-21   13:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#38)

That *overthrow*, as you mistakenly call it, was, in fact. the result of a democratic procedure in the Ukrainian Parliament.

You mean the "democratic procedure" of pouncing on ministers with baseball bats and pointing guns at their heads?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-21   14:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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