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Title: Origin of life: Chemistry of seabed's hot vents could explain emergence of life
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Published: Apr 29, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-04-29 03:12:21 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 366
Comments: 34

ScienceDaily...

Hot vents on the seabed could have spontaneously produced the organic molecules necessary for life, according to new research by UCL chemists. The study shows how the surfaces of mineral particles inside hydrothermal vents have similar chemical properties to enzymes, the biological molecules that govern chemical reactions in living organisms. This means that vents are able to create simple carbon-based molecules, such as methanol and formic acid, out of the dissolved CO2 in the water.

The discovery, published in the journal Chemical Communications, explains how some of the key building blocks for organic chemistry were already being formed in nature before life emerged -- and may have played a role in the emergence of the first life forms. It also has potential practical applications, showing how products such as plastics and fuels could be synthesised from CO2 rather than oil.

"There is a lot of speculation that hydrothermal vents could be the location where life on Earth began," says Nora de Leeuw, who heads the team. "There is a lot of CO2 dissolved in the water, which could provide the carbon that the chemistry of living organisms is based on, and there is plenty of energy, because the water is hot and turbulent. What our research proves is that these vents also have the chemical properties that encourage these molecules to recombine into molecules usually associated with living organisms."

The team combined laboratory experiments with supercomputer simulations to investigate the conditions under which the mineral particles would catalyse the conversion of CO2 into organic molecules. The experiments replicated the conditions present in deep sea vents, where hot and slightly alkaline water rich in dissolved CO2 passes over the mineral greigite (Fe3S4), located on the inside surfaces of the vents. These experiments hinted at the chemical processes that were underway. The simulations, which were run on UCL's Legion supercomputer and HECToR (the UK national supercomputing service), provided a molecule-by-molecule view of how the CO2 and greigite interacted, helping to make sense of what was being observed in the experiments. The computing power and programming expertise to accurately simulate the behaviour of individual molecules in this way has only become available in the past decade.

"We found that the surfaces and crystal structures inside these vents act as catalysts, encouraging chemical changes in the material that settles on them," says Nathan Hollingsworth, a co-author of the study. "They behave much like enzymes do in living organisms, breaking down the bonds between carbon and oxygen atoms. This lets them combine with water to produce formic acid, acetic acid, methanol and pyruvic acid. Once you have simple carbon-based chemicals such as these, it opens the door to more complex carbon-based chemistry."

Theories about the emergence of life suggest that increasingly complex carbon-based chemistry led to self-replicating molecules -- and, eventually, the appearance of the first cellular life forms. This research shows how one of the first steps in this journey may have occurred. It is proof that simple organic molecules can be synthesised in nature without living organisms being present. It also confirms that hydrothermal vents are a plausible location for at least part of this process to have occurred.

The study could also have a practical applications, as it provides a method for creating carbon-based chemicals out of CO2, without the need for extreme heat or pressure. This could, in the long term, replace oil as the raw material for products such as plastics, fertilisers and fuels.

This study shows, albeit on a very small scale, that such products, which are currently produced from non-renewable raw materials, can be produced by more environmentally friendly means. If the process can be scaled up to commercially viable scales, it would not only save oil, but use up CO2 -- a greenhouse gas -- as a raw material.

Journal Reference:

A. Roldan, N. Hollingsworth, A. Roffey, H.-U. Islam, J. B. M. Goodall, C. R. A. Catlow, J. A. Darr, W. Bras, G. Sankar, K. B. Holt, G. Hogarth, N. H. de Leeuw. Bio-inspired CO2conversion by iron sulfide catalysts under sustainable conditions. Chem. Commun., 2015; 51 (35): 7501 DOI: 10.1039/C5CC02078F

University College London. "Origin of life: Chemistry of seabed's hot vents could explain emergence of life." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 27 April 2015. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150427101635.htm


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Something for you non-evolutionists to ponder.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0) (Edited)

We've finally found them -- our original parents, the sea vents! MOM! DAD!!!...

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-29   3:27:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

LMAO

Exactly!

Any boob that would believe something like that needs an adjustment.

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-29   8:04:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Katniss (#2)

What's so hard to believe about it?

As the saying goes, God works in mysterious ways.

Our Universe is very much more alive than most people think.

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-29   12:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

What's so hard to believe about it?

It's not the vents. It's the idea that live evolved from simpler to more complex forms.

Where are the transitional forms in the fossil record?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-04-29   13:12:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: NeoconsNailed (#4)

It's not the vents. It's the idea that live evolved from simpler to more complex forms.

Where are the transitional forms in the fossil record?

Exactly!

Besides, Darwin's theory of evolution has been disproven at the core elements of it beyond any residual credibility whatsoever, except to those blinded by inundation media.

Darwin's original theory is tantamount to insisting that monsters will come out of your tap when you turn the water on. Really, it's exactly that trivial when it comes to substantiation.

It was originally called a theory that morphed into something much larger for socio-political subversion purposes and for no other reason. Get The Living God, get Mammon in! It's worked like a charm!

Katniss  posted on  2015-04-30   14:42:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Katniss (#24)

Besides, Darwin's theory of evolution has been disproven at the core elements of it beyond any residual credibility whatsoever, except to those blinded by inundation media.

So you're denying the existance of primitive species such as Neanderthal and such?

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-04-30   14:55:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#25) (Edited)

So you're denying the existance of primitive species such as Neanderthal and such?

If you can't explain that then you need to do a whole lot more research. I can direct you, but it is impossible for me to explain here in a forum what's taken me years to learn, kinda like 9/11.

What I said stands. There's no self-respecting biologist or scientist otherwise alive today that will back Darwin's original basis for his theory.

Hence, anything driving evolution today has little if anything to do with Darwin other than that he's a poster-boy for the movement. It would be very close to using a man that shot a violent home-intruder to defend himself in his home as a poster-boy for our global wars in the name of "self defense."

Like I said, it's absurdly trivial, equivalent to me saying that this forum evolved from the internet without human interaction. It's so preposterous that like all other FFs in this country, none of the mainstream ever defers to Darwin's original premise other than generally speaking.

That's a fact. The entire debate on evolution A, keeps changing from the side of those pushing evolution, another Zio-establishment sponsored goody to deteriorate morality in this country, which has been successfully accomplished mind you, and B, is based entirely on a revolving door of info to keep people confused. Once one thing/"basis" is disproven, another is floated.

It's the same as with say coverage of 9/11 or OKC, BB, etc.

And before we get off on another wrong tangent here, this is not to say that organized religion is right either. Organized religion is no different than mainstream media. I learned this years ago which is why I do not go to church anymore.

I used to be in Bible studies, but no one wanted to use the Bible. They all wanted to study a book written about the Bible. Most people, the vast majority, that go to church do not read and study their Bibles independently. Of the few that do read them, most of them do so in accordance with the structure of a formal Bible study and a preordained syllabus or guide of some sort, usually errant in terms of what the Bible actually teaches for one or more reasons.

Same as with being informed from a "news" and societal perspective, as we know here, if you want to know the truth, you'll have to get it from non-mainstream sources. The mainstream sources all deceive, lie, and cover-up, sometimes deliberate, sometimes ignorantly, but nonetheless.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-01   9:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Katniss (#28)

There's no self-respecting biologist or scientist otherwise alive today that will back Darwin's original basis for his theory.

The way you have phrased that makes your statement 100% incorrect. Darwin's finches, his observational differences between which, formed the basis for his theory. These finches and what Darwin posited, natural selection, are STILL studied to this day in evolutionary biology. There is no 21st century evolutionary biologist who rejects either natural selection or Darwin's observations.

What has been *rejected* of Darwin's is gradualism, i.e. the continued, gradual change of a species as it adapts.

Darwin was a Naturalist not a biologist...his theory developed out of observation rather than biological investigation. Darwin knew very little of the biological aspects of heredity...but, as a keen observer, he was able to discern how members of the same species had developed different traits that served their needs of survival. Had Darwin and Mendel been able to collaborate, Darwin's theory - and Mendel's work, for that matter - would have taken on a totally different face within the scientific community...

war  posted on  2015-05-01   10:20:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#29)

What has been *rejected* of Darwin's is gradualism, i.e. the continued, gradual change of a species as it adapts.

Which is sort of like saying "the part of global warming theory that's been abandoned is that there's a rise in temperature." You know, it's been changed to "climate change" now so they're covered either way.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-01   10:29:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: NeoconsNailed (#30)

Which is sort of like saying "the part of global warming theory that's been abandoned is that there's a rise in temperature."

No it's not. Darwin advocated universal gradualism. Evolutionary biologists will tell you that some changes are gradual but most are not...

You know, it's been changed to "climate change" now so they're covered either way.

How do you boil water?

By increasing its temperature...

Given that fact, what you are saying is that a) water does not boil because the temperature of it was increased and b) no significant change to the water has occurred...

Everything that you need to know about the effect of rising temps on climate you should have learned in elementary school Earth Science...

war  posted on  2015-05-01   10:57:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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